Re: PC fan getting very loud

2021-05-08 Thread Bret Busby
provision for customisation. I also find Vivaldi to be quite slow, in comparison to firefox. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) ..

Re: PC fan getting very loud because of CPU load

2021-05-08 Thread Bret Busby
ges that indicate what websites are responsible for Internet traffic; if I notice sustained downloading of over half a megabyte per second, all that I can do, is turn off the networking, for a couple of hours, and, check to see whether it resumes the unsolicited traffic. -- Bret Busby Armadale W

Re: Looking for ratings of all-in-one printers for Linux (Ubuntu in particular)

2018-07-07 Thread Bret Busby
ions for any printer, before you buy it, to confirm compatibility), shows them (or, the ones I recently investigated, when we needed to replace one of our Samsung MFP's) to be compatible with Linux (and, via WiFi, with Android and iOS cellphones and tablets). -- Bret Busby Armadale West

Re: Debian 9 "Stretch" released

2017-06-19 Thread Bret Busby
Does Debian 9 support the Intel Haskell architecture, and the nVIDIA Optimus (?) system, allowing external monitors to be run via the nVIDIA GEForce graphics things? -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what th

Re: Need Urgently solution or advice - start to give up on Debian

2016-05-20 Thread Bret Busby
On 21/05/2016, Brian <a...@cityscape.co.uk> wrote: > On Sat 21 May 2016 at 01:44:02 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > >> On 19/05/2016, deloptes <delop...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > And he'll have the problem on each distro with this computer. >> &

Re: Need Urgently solution or advice - start to give up on Debian

2016-05-20 Thread Bret Busby
pointed" with a particular operating system, is as helpful as complaining that the person has a problem, without stating what it is. The original poster needs to provide clarification - is the screen the wrong colour, or the default font, too small, or the taskbar in the wrong place, or the name &quo

Re: Nvidia Optimus in Debian

2016-03-04 Thread Bret Busby
ur computer, to get it to work properly. Whilst I was not trying Debian testing, in its current form, I had tried to apply bumblebee to it, in my adventure with it, and, the version of bumblebee that I tried (a later version may exist - I have no idea), it did not work. The only solution for my c

Re: NVIDIA GeForce problem

2016-03-02 Thread Bret Busby
10 iso, and trying that, but, whilst my preference is for the GNOME2 styled interface that I get with UbuntuMATE, others may prefer different interfaces. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means."

Re: iceape availability

2016-02-26 Thread Bret Busby
On 26/02/2016, Ken Heard <kensli...@teksavvy.com> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 2016-02-25 22:46, Bret Busby wrote: >>> >> >> I currently have and use, seamonkey v 2.29 (.1, I think), as the >> latest version o

Re: iceape availability

2016-02-25 Thread Bret Busby
ue to expire on Monday coming, apparently does not extend to packages in Debian 6, that are classified as "vulnerable", as is shown in this instance. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the an

Re: iceape availability

2016-02-25 Thread Bret Busby
> * libc6: 2.11 (Debian 6) vs. 2.21 (Ubuntu 15.10) > * libssl: 0.9.8o vs. 1.0.2d > * libgtk: 2.20.1 vs 2.24.28 > So there's a good chance iceape won't even install, and if it does, > you might experience strange behaviour, or nothing at all. > > Regards, > /peter >

Re: iceape availability

2016-02-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/02/2016, Richard Owlett <rowl...@cloud85.net> wrote: > On 2/25/2016 7:38 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> On Thursday 25 February 2016 12:59:29 Siard wrote: >>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:08:20 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: >>>> I searched for a .deb package,

Re: iceape availability

2016-02-25 Thread Bret Busby
> As always, we might be able to better help you if you can give us a > description of what you want to do. > > Regards, > /peter > > Am 25.02.2016 um 09:32 schrieb Bret Busby: >> On 25/02/2016, Peter Ludikovsky <pe...@ludikovsky.name> wrote: >>> Hello, >>

Re: iceape availability

2016-02-25 Thread Bret Busby
es. Open a > command line / terminal and enter > sudo apt-get install iceape > > It will pull iceape, and all dependencies, from the Debian repos, and > install them. > > Updates are handled similarily. > > Regards, > /peter > > Am 25.02.2016 um 07:08 schr

iceape availability

2016-02-24 Thread Bret Busby
g that has endless unsatisfiable dependencies. Is an installable .deb package for the iceape suite, available? -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought,

Re: Squeeze Support

2016-02-15 Thread Bret Busby
ribing to the Debian-LTS mailing list. On that list, is posted information and discussion, about what is going on with the LTS work, and, recently, has been posted, the End Of Support dates for the next two versions that are to be subject to LTS. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia

Re: I need help

2016-02-12 Thread Bret Busby
offee mug holder", or, "You are not supposed to use a tablet PC to take underwater photographs without some kind of waterproof casing". -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means."

Re: Problem to detect external monitor on Lenovo ThinkPad Dock

2016-02-05 Thread Bret Busby
tuMATE 15.10, and and now using UbuntuMATE 15.10 (soon, hopefully, to be upgraded to UbuntuMATE 16.04 LTS). So, if Ubuntu gets your system working as you want, and, Debian does not, then I suggest simply switching to UbuntuMATE 15.10, and upgrading to 16.04, when it becomes available. -- Bret Busby A

Re: Fw: Books Inquiry

2016-01-21 Thread Bret Busby
last mentioned hypertext link, leads, is at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ Thus, should the question be answered. Remember - "If all else fails, follow the instructions". -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question a

Re: Is anybody Running Debian on Acer Aspire E5-571G

2016-01-21 Thread Bret Busby
ailability of drivers for the hardware, you consider UbuntuMATE. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:

Re: no response from listmaster

2015-12-14 Thread Bret Busby
s thread, I too, am not a list administrator of this mailing list, simply someone who is wondering why you do not apply one or more of the suggested, simple and obvious solutions. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know wha

Re: gufw problem

2015-12-08 Thread Bret Busby
bigot) These are simply my opinions and experience, and, others may have different opinions, and, we should be tolerant of those who are different to us, while, as above, suggesting (and, not insisting) what may be a better implementation (although, some may say that what I posted above,

Re: How to disable certain keys

2015-08-30 Thread Bret Busby
On 30/08/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 16/08/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 16/08/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 16/08/2015, to...@tuxteam.de to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 12

Re: How to disable certain keys

2015-08-16 Thread Bret Busby
. ~/.xsessionrc with the contents xmodmap .xmodmap. Two files; two lines; total control. I appear to not have a file .xsessionrc I do have a file.xinputrc Should the line xmodmap .xmodmap be inserted in the .xinputrc file, in the absence of an .xsessionrc file? -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia

Re: How to disable certain keys

2015-08-15 Thread Bret Busby
On 15/08/2015, Liam O'Toole liam.p.oto...@gmail.com wrote: On 2015-08-15, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: It seems you've managed to disable all keys. :-) Ah, only the ones that I wanted to disable, I hope ... :) -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you

Re: How to disable certain keys

2015-08-15 Thread Bret Busby
On 15/08/2015, Carl Johnson ca...@peak.org wrote: Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com writes: xkeycaps is run from the command line, and (when ran from a command line in a terminal emulator) it displayed a graphical image of the keyboard, and, when a mouseover was done of the keys that I wanted

Re: How to disable certain keys

2015-08-15 Thread Bret Busby
On 16/08/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 16/08/2015, to...@tuxteam.de to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 12:04:17PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: On 15/08/2015, Carl Johnson ca...@peak.org wrote: Bret Busby bret.bu

Re: How to disable certain keys

2015-08-15 Thread Bret Busby
On 16/08/2015, to...@tuxteam.de to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 12:04:17PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: On 15/08/2015, Carl Johnson ca...@peak.org wrote: Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com writes: [...] That same right-click menu

Re: How to disable certain keys

2015-08-15 Thread Bret Busby
On 15/08/2015, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Fri 14 Aug 2015 at 14:26:23 -0700, Carl Johnson wrote: Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk writes: On Fri 14 Aug 2015 at 15:41:07 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: Some of the keys are causing problems and disrupting what I do, due to the keys

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-15 Thread Bret Busby
else has an unresolved problem associated with the PAE issue? Thank you. And, hopefully, in using a different web browser this time, the sending of the message, will not cause the message content to be deleted. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what

Re: How to disable certain keys

2015-08-15 Thread Bret Busby

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-15 Thread Bret Busby

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-15 Thread Bret Busby
On 15/08/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 15/08/2015, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 04:23:17 -0400 (EDT), didier gaumet wrote: Sorry, I didn't catch you were using Ubuntu. Apparently, Ubuntu has dropped support for 586 procs (their 386 linux

Re: How to disable certain keys

2015-08-15 Thread Bret Busby
On 15/08/2015, Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: On 2015-08-14, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Some of the keys are causing problems and disrupting what I do, due to the keys apparently being inadvertently pressed. How do I disable the Caps Lock key, and, how do I disable the left

How to disable certain keys

2015-08-14 Thread Bret Busby
Hello. Some of the keys are causing problems and disrupting what I do, due to the keys apparently being inadvertently pressed. How do I disable the Caps Lock key, and, how do I disable the left hand CTRL key, and, how do I disable the Windows keys? Thank you in anticipation. -- Bret Busby

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/08/2015, didier gaumet didier.gau...@gmail.com wrote: Le 13/08/2015 06:09, Bret Busby a écrit : Since you have mentioned an old system, I should perhaps mention that apparently, Linux has abandoned support for Celeron CPU's, as, having installed ubuntu-mate 15.09 on my HP/Compaq NX5000

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread Bret Busby
-*-586) So, the i386.deb in linux-image-3.19.0-25-generic_3.19.0-25.26_i386.deb is actually 586, and, from Ubuntu and not Debian... Confusinger and confusinger -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/08/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 13/08/2015, didier gaumet didier.gau...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, I did n't catch you were using Ubuntu. Apparently, Ubuntu has dropped support for 586 procs (their 386 linux images being in fact 686 ones). That's not the case in Debian

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/08/2015, didier gaumet didier.gau...@gmail.com wrote: Le 13/08/2015 12:13, Bret Busby a écrit : i386 is 686, and not 586 ? Yes, I think that 386 Ubuntu Linux images are build with 686 instruction set compatibility. 386 meaning here x86. Anyway, you might have a way to force

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/08/2015, Seeker seeker5...@comcast.net wrote: Sorry for sending a response off list, I usually I double check the To field before hitting send, but that didn't happen this time. On 8/12/2015 9:09 PM, Bret Busby wrote: Since you have mentioned an old system, I should perhaps mention

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/08/2015, didier gaumet didier.gau...@gmail.com wrote: Le 13/08/2015 13:58, Bret Busby a écrit : Thank you. That is how I managed to initially install the operating system. then you should probably have a grub entry with PAE enabled (forced) I have not tried, and, do not know how

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-12 Thread Bret Busby
to change at this point. Maybe it would be worth having a look at ubuntu-mate.org, downloading the iso image, and running it as a live disk. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/08/2015, Umarzuki Mochlis umarz...@gmail.com wrote: I had to use xfce on my old T43 although Mate would be closer to Gnome. Original Message From: Bret Busby Sent: Thursday, 13 August 2015 11:38 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ? On 13/08/2015

Re: two peoples separated by a common language -was {Re: [OT] Television licensing. was: Re: pptp-based vpn}

2015-08-10 Thread Bret Busby
. You are better proof readers than I. I see what I know should be there. And my spell checker was entirely happy. Sorry again. :-( I have quadruple checked hypothecated. It is right this time. Lisi Well, ... hypothetickly, anyway ;~{)} -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia

Re: Off topic, but has lists.sourceforge.net hung itself for good?

2015-07-20 Thread Bret Busby
On 21/07/2015, Bob Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 12:19:53AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: snip Why sure Bob. Thanks so much. All I got to say is: TRUMP IN '16 For what? Dog catcher? W -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what

OffTopic - of irrational Trumpets and such - was Re: Off topic, but has lists.sourceforge.net hung itself for good?

2015-07-20 Thread Bret Busby
On 21/07/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 21/07/2015, Bob Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 12:19:53AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: snip Why sure Bob. Thanks so much. All I got to say is: TRUMP IN '16 For what? Dog catcher? W Trying for a third

Mate desktop - was Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-07-16 Thread Bret Busby
On 15/07/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/07/2015, Liam O'Toole liam.p.oto...@gmail.com wrote: On 2015-06-22, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Is it really too much to ask, for application names to be in english? Yes it is. And, does it have all of thev

Re: Mate desktop - was Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-07-16 Thread Bret Busby
is rebooted, it does not become again enabled). And now, I have a screensaver that brings up the files in my Pictures directory. Thank you again, for that. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means

Re: Mate desktop - was Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-07-16 Thread Bret Busby
not aware of any other settings manager, running. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts

Re: Free GNU/Linux intro class for teens advice? Purchase box? Squeak/Smalltalk programming

2015-07-16 Thread Bret Busby
at there website and http://training.linuxfoundation.org/linux-courses/system-administration-training -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide

Re: anyone booting debian with secure boot enabled? And/or from GPT partitions?

2015-07-15 Thread Bret Busby
discussed, this year. On this computer, I have MSWin8 installed via UEFI, and Debian 6 and 7 and Ubuntu 12.04 and 14.04 installed via Legacy BIOS. on a GPT system. Each has booted without significant problems, the Linux installations booting using GRUB. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia

Re: anyone booting debian with secure boot enabled? And/or from GPT partitions?

2015-07-15 Thread Bret Busby
On 15/07/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 15/07/2015, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 15/07/2015, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: Last I heard, debian was not participating in any

Re: anyone booting debian with secure boot enabled? And/or from GPT partitions?

2015-07-15 Thread Bret Busby
On 15/07/2015, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 15/07/2015, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: Last I heard, debian was not participating in any of the initiatives to get officially microsoft-signed signatures

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-07-14 Thread Bret Busby
On 04/07/2015, Liam O'Toole liam.p.oto...@gmail.com wrote: On 2015-06-22, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Is it really too much to ask, for application names to be in english? Yes it is. And, does it have all of thev functionality of gnome 2, including (but not limited

Re: Light web browser for old PC

2015-07-02 Thread Bret Busby
people prevent speed dial from being disabled in the next version. So, for a web browser that is efficient, I suggest lynx. And, I recommend against installing opera. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what

Re: How do I find what drivers are installed

2015-06-30 Thread Bret Busby
On 30/06/2015, Seeker seeker5...@comcast.net wrote: On 6/29/2015 11:40 AM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: On Seg, 29 Jun 2015, Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Tue, 2015-06-30 at 00:48 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: So the computer does not work properly (in terms of the graphics, anyway) with either Debian

Re: How do I find what drivers are installed

2015-06-29 Thread Bret Busby
On 29/06/2015, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 29 June 2015 14:02:03 Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Mon, 2015-06-29 at 16:53 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: The reason that I wanted to know what graphical drivers are in use, and which of the graphical devices they are driving

Re: How do I find what drivers are installed

2015-06-29 Thread Bret Busby
that be shown in the Xorg.0.log file that I posted? Considering that Debian 6 came out in 2011 and the Haswell microarchitecture came out in 2013, I would say that the answer to the question is very likely no. Regards, -- Nicolas George -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia

Re: How do I find what drivers are installed

2015-06-29 Thread Bret Busby
, as with a lack of Intel drivers. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas

Re: How do I find what drivers are installed

2015-06-29 Thread Bret Busby
On 29/06/2015, The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 06/29/2015 at 10:54 AM, Bret Busby wrote: if it is, as, I think, postulated by Sven, the Intel driver that drives the external monitor, then the question is does Debian 6 have a driver for the Intel Haswell integrated graphic

Re: How do I find what drivers are installed

2015-06-29 Thread Bret Busby
On 30/06/2015, The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 06/29/2015 at 11:59 AM, Bret Busby wrote: snip However, after having written that, I think that the web page at https://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/DRM_I915.html indicates that laptop computers with an Intel i7 CPU, should

Re: How do I find what drivers are installed

2015-06-29 Thread Bret Busby
On 30/06/2015, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 29 June 2015 19:40:25 Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: On Seg, 29 Jun 2015, Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Tue, 2015-06-30 at 00:48 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: So the computer does not work properly (in terms of the graphics, anyway

Re: How do I find what drivers are installed

2015-06-29 Thread Bret Busby
On 29/06/2015, Martin Read zen75...@zen.co.uk wrote: On 29/06/15 06:53, Bret Busby wrote: (as I can not copy the list, as a block copy, a command line command to so list the packages, would be useful, eg apt-get list-intalled | grep xserver) The command you want is dpkg -l. Thank you

Please explain system errors

2015-06-28 Thread Bret Busby
ff ff 41 ff ce 41 83 fe Message from syslogd@bret-apc01-debian6 at Jun 29 02:32:30 ... kernel:[ 5453.782107] CR2: 0098 Could someone please explain this for me? Thank you in anticipation. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question

How do I find what drivers are installed

2015-06-28 Thread Bret Busby
On 29/06/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: -- Stupid computers that do everything but what they are supposed to do (like sending messages when a user is trying to enter a message, and putting text everywher except where it is supposed to go)! What I had been trying to enter, to post

ow do I find what drivers are installed

2015-06-28 Thread Bret Busby
-- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books

Re: How do I find what drivers are installed

2015-06-28 Thread Bret Busby
On 29/06/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 29/06/2015, Sven Arvidsson s...@whiz.se wrote: On Mon, 2015-06-29 at 01:13 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: On 29/06/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: -- Stupid computers that do everything but what they are supposed to do (like

Re: How do I find what drivers are installed

2015-06-28 Thread Bret Busby
On 29/06/2015, Sven Arvidsson s...@whiz.se wrote: On Mon, 2015-06-29 at 01:13 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: On 29/06/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: -- Stupid computers that do everything but what they are supposed to do (like sending messages when a user is trying to enter

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-22 Thread Bret Busby
On 21/06/2015, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 20 June 2015 18:01:41 Bret Busby wrote: mate, apart from being in spanish, codswallop! Lisi At https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MATE_(software) is MATE (/mɑːteɪ/; Spanish pronunciation: [ˈmate]) is a desktop environment

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-22 Thread Bret Busby
in Debian, rather than the gratuitous flaming that you impose on victims. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-22 Thread Bret Busby
On 23/06/2015, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 22 June 2015 17:25:38 Bret Busby wrote: On 21/06/2015, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 20 June 2015 18:01:41 Bret Busby wrote: mate, apart from being in spanish, codswallop! Lisi At https

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-22 Thread Bret Busby
On 23/06/2015, Martin Read zen75...@zen.co.uk wrote: On 22/06/15 18:01, Bret Busby wrote: The names of the applications are also in spanish. Is it really too much to ask, for application names to be in english? Speaking as a native speaker of English: Yes. What's wrong with using languages

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-22 Thread Bret Busby
On 23/06/2015, Don Armstrong d...@debian.org wrote: On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Bret Busby wrote: But all of this digression into discussing the mate desktop environment stll does not get either Debian 6 or 7 working with either the intel, or the nvidia, graphics device, in the Acer V3-772G

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-22 Thread Bret Busby
On 23/06/2015, Don Armstrong d...@debian.org wrote: On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Bret Busby wrote: But all of this digression into discussing the mate desktop environment stll does not get either Debian 6 or 7 working with either the intel, or the nvidia, graphics device, in the Acer V3-772G

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-20 Thread Bret Busby
On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: Copies of Xorg.0.log (on both Wheezy and Ubuntu) would also be helpful, just to see what your system detects, and how they differ

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-20 Thread Bret Busby
On 20/06/2015, Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 01:45:42 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 20/06/2015, Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote: And then again - if Ubuntu satisfies your needs, why suffer with Debian oldstable? As should be shown

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-20 Thread Bret Busby
On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:15:59 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: I note also, that I used synaptic to remove all the nvidia

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-20 Thread Bret Busby
On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 16:23:03 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-20 Thread Bret Busby
On 20/06/2015, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 19 June 2015 18:49:38 Bret Busby wrote: On 20/06/2015, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 19 June 2015 16:54:12 Bret Busby wrote: Unfortunately, it appears that once a version of Debian Linux is released

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-19 Thread Bret Busby
On 19/06/2015, Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/19/2015 12:15 AM, Bret Busby wrote: On 19/06/2015, Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/18/2015 03:25 AM, Petter Adsen wrote: There are, however, no hits on bumblebee for squeeze at all, so it won't help in this case. Maybe

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-19 Thread Bret Busby
On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:15:59 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: I note also, that I used synaptic to remove all the nvidia stuff, from the Debian 7 installation, and I removed the bumblebee stuff from that installation

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-19 Thread Bret Busby
On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:15:59 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: I note also, that I used synaptic to remove all the nvidia stuff, from the Debian 7 installation, and I removed

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-19 Thread Bret Busby
On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:15:59 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: I note also, that I used synaptic to remove all the nvidia stuff, from the Debian 7 installation, and I removed the bumblebee stuff from that installation

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-19 Thread Bret Busby
On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 16:23:03 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: How do you determine that it doesn't detect the monitor? You

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-19 Thread Bret Busby
On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:15:59 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: I note also, that I used synaptic to remove all the nvidia stuff, from the Debian 7 installation, and I removed the bumblebee stuff from that installation

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-19 Thread Bret Busby
of my previous post you would have seen the full path to that file. Sorry - I had read the whole of the post, and had tried to respond to it in modularised progressive steps, and when I got down to that part, I had forgotten the content of the first paragraph. See below for Ubuntu 12.04 -- Bret

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-19 Thread Bret Busby
On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 16:23:03 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: How do

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-19 Thread Bret Busby
On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 16:23:03 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: How do you determine that it doesn't detect the monitor? You can read through /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but it's easier

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-19 Thread Bret Busby
On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:15:59 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: I note also, that I used synaptic to remove all the nvidia stuff, from the Debian 7 installation, and I removed

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-19 Thread Bret Busby
On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: Copies of Xorg.0.log (on both Wheezy and Ubuntu) would also be helpful, just to see what your system detects, and how they differ. -Ubuntu-12-04LTS:~$ cat Xorg.0.log cat: Xorg.0

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-19 Thread Bret Busby
On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:15:59 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: I note also, that I used synaptic to remove all the nvidia

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-19 Thread Bret Busby
On 19/06/2015, Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: On 2015-06-19, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry - I had read the whole of the post, and had tried to respond to it in modularised progressive steps, and when I got down to that part, I had forgotten the content of the first paragraph

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-19 Thread Bret Busby
On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 17:50:17 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: I have attached a copy of the file from the Debian 6 installation. It's not loading neither the nouveau nor the nvidia driver, is one of them correctly installed

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-19 Thread Bret Busby
where necessary for attempts to get the Debian installations working. I would rather use Debian 6, as it has the superior interface, to the later Debian versions, and to Ubuntu, but, to use Debian 6, I have to use a lesser computer. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-19 Thread Bret Busby
On 20/06/2015, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 19 June 2015 16:54:12 Bret Busby wrote: Unfortunately, it appears that once a version of Debian Linux is released and decreed stable, development of that version and its packages, ceases, and it goes into maintenance mode, so

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-19 Thread Bret Busby
On 20/06/2015, Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: On 2015-06-19, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: Didn't we already go through this once with you in a long, protracted, confused and confusing thread, the exact same issue, not too long ago? As I have, I believe, previously mentioned, I have been

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-18 Thread Bret Busby
. I note also, that I used synaptic to remove all the nvidia stuff, from the Debian 7 installation, and I removed the bumblebee stuff from that installation, and reinstalled bumblebee on that installation, and the Debian 7 installation also still does not detect the external monitor. -- Bret Busby

Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-18 Thread Bret Busby
process. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published

Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-17 Thread Bret Busby
On 16/06/2015, Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/15/2015 12:39 PM, Bret Busby wrote: Get:1 http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze/non-free nvidia-kernel-dkms amd64 195.36.31-6squeeze2 [7,138 kB] Fetched 7,138 kB in 12s (575 kB/s) Selecting previously deselected package nvidia

Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-15 Thread Bret Busby
On 15/06/2015, Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/14/2015 03:29 AM, Bret Busby wrote: On 14/06/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: Check that they support your GPU at all first, sometimes it takes a little time for the open source drivers to implement support for the latest

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