On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 11:00:56PM -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
On 12/19/2014 09:41 PM, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 04:49:04PM -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote:
hm whatever deepens your sense of self lol!
Happy Holidays to you and everyone,
Don't forget to have a Merry
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 11:01:28PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
Chris Bannister wrote:
What about:
sudo /etc/init.d/ssh -vvv restart
Sorry but the /etc/init.d/ssh doesn't take any -v options.
Arrrghhh! of course, what was I thinking. :(
--
If you're not careful, the newspapers
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 08:48:41AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
Bret Busby wrote:
Surely, it would have all been so much simpler, if the original poster
in the thread, had put the question To what personal uses, do people
put their computers?.
What correlation need there be between
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 03:51:49AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
Oh, and, from what I understand, unless the statistics have changed,
regarding the
consider thinking about how most people uses their
computers ;)
from what I understand, most people who use computers do not use
Linux as
On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 04:26:42PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Monday 08 December 2014 15:44:59 Michael Fothergill wrote:
A novus fuscinulam Debian - Devuan pulsantes apparuit absque ulla
logicas rationem omnino
A new (way of doing impolite things to, or, an impolite adjective
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 09:48:58AM +0100, Frédéric Marchal wrote:
Now, is it possible to run fsck during shutdown? Users have been asking for
this for at least 10 years. Is it now acceptable, possible, tolerated?
That sounds like a recipe for disaster. Do you mean *before* shutdown?
--
If
On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 11:23:04PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Monday 08 December 2014 17:41:57 Michael Fothergill wrote:
Perhaps the fun to be got out of it is to try doing it with different
phrases and then those of us who don't know Latin take bets on how good or
bad a translation it is
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 10:15:24AM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
It IS accurate to say that after Jessie is released as stable. Jessie
No. 'Jessie is frozen *until* it is released as stable.
has been frozen, and only RC fixes are being made. This is not
considered an RC fix.
That link I
On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 09:36:16AM +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
On 07 Dec 2014, Clive Standbridge wrote:
I think the Dali Llama is a Spanish surrealistic painting of a South
American ruminant, noted for fleecing the tin foil crowd.
You win!
--
Clive
In the film Troy
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 05:15:36PM -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote:
On Sun, 30 Nov 2014, Chris Bannister wrote:
[I've somehow deleted the other messages, so this one will have to do]
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 01:59:02PM +0100, Jochen Spieker wrote:
Patrick Bartek:
On Thu, 27 Nov 2014
[I've somehow deleted the other messages, so this one will have to do]
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 01:59:02PM +0100, Jochen Spieker wrote:
Patrick Bartek:
On Thu, 27 Nov 2014, John Hasler wrote:
Patrick Bartek writes:
It seems systemd cannot not be installed in Jessie.
You mean Testing.
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 10:10:23PM -0500, The Wanderer wrote:
On 11/27/2014 at 09:33 PM, John Hasler wrote:
Patrick Bartek writes:
It seems systemd cannot not be installed in Jessie.
You mean Testing. Jessie has not been released.
My understanding of the way the Debian release
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 02:46:24PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
In which case I'd recommend:-
*1.* uncommenting the user_allow_other line in /etc/fuse.conf
*2.* changing the fstab line to:-
LABEL=WinBackup /media/WinBackup ntfs-3g
uid=1000,gid=1000,permissions,auto,noatime 0 0
*3.*
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 09:30:27AM -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
happened. But the upgrade was of over a thousand packages. All I was
trying to do was to provide information which might prove helpful to
others. But apparently one can have every good intention of not
starting a fight on
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 02:44:19AM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
Or, perhaps a general rule for default settings - safest/do no harm?
[just a wild guess]
Wouldn't it make more sense having the default meaning: guarranteed to
work on the majority of systems/setups enabling the admin to later
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 09:11:04AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Paul Scott wrote:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 07:40:42AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Hi,
It seems dsndynamic.com bit the dust this weekend of the 23 of November.
Is there an alternative of a free dsn
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 05:03:19PM -0200, Teresa e Junior wrote:
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 15:56:41 -0200, Teresa e Junior wrote:
Hello! I am using curl 7.26.0-1+wheezy11, and when I run `curl
https://www.basebit.com.br', it fails with the message:
curl: (35) error:14077438:SSL
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 10:47:51PM +0100, Anders Wegge Keller wrote:
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 22:43:01 +1100
Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote:
On 22/11/14 22:14, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 21:46:19 +1100
Scott Ferguson
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 02:23:11PM -0200, Teresa e Junior wrote:
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 05:20:23 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 05:03:19PM -0200, Teresa e Junior wrote:
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 15:56:41 -0200, Teresa e Junior wrote:
Hello! I am using curl 7.26.0-1+wheezy11
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 04:37:54AM -0800, Chris Help wrote:
Im affraid as i plug in router they go everywhere. They also at my brother,
on my.harddrive from laptop. Im cannot dl whats app or call because of
them. And really it was just i wanne to learn and no more Windows os. I had
kali and
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 10:59:11PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Friday 21 November 2014 22:43:11 Ross Boylan wrote:
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Scott Ferguson
scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote:
On 21/11/14 15:13, Ross Boylan wrote:
Over the last week I've repeatedly found
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 04:17:20PM -0200, Teresa e Junior wrote:
With curl 7.26.0-1+wheezy11? If your version is newer, I thought maybe I
could backport it from Jessie, but I don't know which package has the
problem here, if cURL, OpenSSL, GnuTLS, etc.
My version is older, as I'm using
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:43:22PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
The main thing that keeps me on Linux is Xen. Xen Dom0 on FreeBSD would
have me there in an instant.
https://wiki.netbsd.org/tutorials/how_to_set_up_a_xen_dom0/
--
If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 01:13:05PM -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
On 11/15/2014 08:51 AM, Curt wrote:
On 2014-11-15, Renaud OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote:
Why can't you wrap your lines while you're at it?
Can't you set your mail client to wrap them for you ?
Sure, and I can
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 10:14:17PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Andrei POPESCU
andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
On Vi, 14 nov 14, 22:53:36, Joel Rees wrote:
If you can't deal with it, snip it?
I don't think it brings anything useful to a discussion on -user.
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 12:00:52PM -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
On 11/15/2014 08:35 PM, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
At the same time, most debian users likely do not really care about
transition
plan and systemd. It was widely published everywhere in March and yet, no
one would have cared if this
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 12:29:45PM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
OdyX writes:
...please stop. Seriously.
Please stop ranting about the ranting. Seriously. It's just as
distracting and irritating as the rants themselves. Just filter the
rant threads and those who post them. I'd filter all
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:32:43AM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote:
Some people think sex should only be for procreation...
Are you procreation or against it?
--
If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 09:28:23PM +0100, Francesco Ariis wrote:
Hello Debian users,
I recently bought a MIDI keyboard and tried it with qsynth (which is
the Qt interface to fluidsynth); everything works (midi events are recognised,
sound comes out, using alsa_seq).
Now to the
Hi,
There is an interesting discussion taking place on debian-devel starting
with this message:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/11/msg00484.html
I'm not trying to 'put out fire with gasoline', I just thought that
anybody with concerns may be interested in reading that thread.
This
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 12:42:00PM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
Don Armstrong writes:
Sexism like this is inappropriate in Debian. Please stop.
Ok. List-parental-units.
Or LPU's for short. :)
--
If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed,
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 03:35:08AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
On 12/11/2014, Don Armstrong d...@debian.org wrote:
I will not make any deals with you. I've resigned. I will not be
pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My
life is my own. I resign.
-- Patrick
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 07:53:47AM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
Chris Bannister writes:
I read that as 'trouble unsubscribing?' then Contact
listmas...@lists.debian.org.
I wrote:
I read it as 'technical trouble with this list'. You're right, though:
now that we have listmoms the footer
[Please don't top post, it makes it hard to read/follow]
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 06:39:42PM +, Steve Greig wrote:
apt-cache search android | less
returns some interesting results?
That was useful to know how to search the APT cache.
I am thinking of starting a new thread as I
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 08:04:02PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On 11 November 2014 17:30, Morten Bo Johansen m...@spamcop.net wrote:
On 2014-11-11 Lisi Reisz wrote:
Intel runs fine on Wheezy, though you do need a kernel upgrade in the
form of a backported kernel for some (though not all)
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 08:00:27AM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
Chris Bannister writes:
I read that as 'trouble unsubscribing?' then Contact
listmas...@lists.debian.org.
I read it as 'technical trouble with this list'. You're right, though:
now that we have listmoms the footer needs
On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 05:50:19PM +, Steve Greig wrote:
I thought I would try and build an Android app and see that you have
to download and install some software:
adt-bundle-linux-x86_64-20140702.zip
Before doing this (I often find installs go wrong) I was wondering if
it is
On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 11:28:29AM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
golinux wrote:
Yes, Refracta is pure unmodified Debian and uses the Debian repos! As
suggested, please join the forums and contribute expertise if possible.
And report back! Those of us who are still waiting and seeing,
[Please don't top post]
On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 12:24:03PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
Joel Roth wrote:
Joel Roth wrote:
Hi list,
I've been upgrading my sid system. When grub goes
to regenerate /boot/grub/grub.cfg, mount uses 100% CPU
and causes these processes to hang:
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 09:40:09AM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
The listadmins act on things that they notice, or are brought to their
attention. They are rather busy and all volunteers. If you think a post to
this (list or any other Debian list) is in breach of the code of conduct,
please
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 06:46:04PM -0500, Rodney D. Myers wrote:
attempting to get mythtv-common installed, but i keep getting this
error in the shell;
sudo apt-get install -f mythtv-common
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 04:38:04PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Wednesday 05 November 2014 16:12:12 Jason C. Taylor wrote:
So my opinions are Void for a laptop, desktop, notebook. Server's are
trickier. Depends on your hardware and what software you need to run and
how much time and effort
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 01:20:35PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
2014/10/28 20:37 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz:
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 08:07:50PM +0100, lee wrote:
The point is that I was right and you were wrong. It wasn't right
of you to so strongly urge people to take
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 11:14:14PM -0400, tjr0...@gmail.com wrote:
Sent from my iPhone
Now I know why I use Android. :)
--
If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the
oppressing. --- Malcolm X
--
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 08:07:50PM +0100, lee wrote:
The point is that I was right and you were wrong. It wasn't right
of you to so strongly urge people to take issues upstream. It's not
as easy to faciliate change as you seem to think.
Now I know what the following joke means:
There is a
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 03:16:59PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
- the LSB is a joint project of several Linux distributions. Ironically:
The LSB has been criticized for not taking input from projects, most
notably the Debian project, outside the sphere of its
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 09:32:31AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 08:25:31AM +0200, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
Even with the addition 10 to 20 people posting on systemd,
it shouldn't be a issue.
Andrei's point was not that the list /infrastructure/ was
Please don't top post on this mailing list.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 04:22:30PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
Actually the problem is i am trying to install KVM guest windows 7 64 bit.
during the installation everything went well. but when guest start for the
first time my KVM guest shows
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 11:29:11PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 20/10/14 00:16, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Scott Ferguson
scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com
mailto:scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote:
On 19/10/14 23:32, kamaraju
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 01:49:17PM +0200, lee wrote:
Hi,
the subject already says it: How do you change the foreground colour in
terminology? I can only set the background.
What? ... Where? ummm ...
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
--
If you're not careful, the
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 02:46:07PM +0200, Chris wrote:
origin=Debian,archive=stable,label=Debian-Security;
Unattended-Upgrade::Origins-Pattern::
origin=Debian,archive=oldstable,label=Debian-Security;
^
Is that right?
--
If you're not careful, the newspapers
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 03:24:32AM +0200, lee wrote:
Klensin Standards Track[Page 71]
RFC 5321 SMTP October 2008
if this address is null (), the receiver-SMTP MUST NOT send a
notification.
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:20:16AM -0700, Rusi Mody wrote:
Here are the first few seconds:
Isn't this information available on the debian-vote list? Seems
redundant to repost it here.
--
If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 07:25:18PM +0100, Brian wrote:
On Fri 17 Oct 2014 at 13:11:23 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
For those of you using Claws-Mail, you can keep it systemd-free into
the foreseeable future by disabling dbus, like this:
./configure --disable-dbus
I've compiled
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:18:53PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Vi, 17 oct 14, 20:20:29, Diogene Laerce wrote:
Debian does have a specific tool to check if a system needs to be
updated but many users will just want to manually check if any
security updates are available for their
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:20:20PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
On 2014-10-17 21:42 +0200, Ric Moore wrote:
On 10/17/2014 01:32 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 10/17/2014 1:29 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
I finished the thread right before I posted, and there were only 4
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 02:50:12PM -0300, Andre N Batista wrote:
But if what you need is authority arguing for authority, instead of
useless user words, well that's what's happening here:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/10/msg00061.html
If you were able to read beyond the spell
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 01:00:21PM +0800, lina wrote:
Any suggestions about
failed to start remount root and kernel file system
Is it due to updating issue? some package like systemd, or util-linux?
Jessie box.
Dunno. Is it an fstab issue? I'm only guessing here because you haven't
lina.lastn...@gmail.com
To: Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz
Subject: Re: failed to start remount root and kernel file system
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Chris Bannister
cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 01:00:21PM +0800, lina wrote:
Any suggestions about
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 06:50:01AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
Anyone who runs a mail server and doesn't keep logs shouldn't be running
a mail server.
*And* the postmaster address monitored,
Anyone who runs a mail server and doesn't monitor the postmaster address
shouldn't be running a
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 02:31:15PM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
On 10/16/2014 14:07, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
No, what I find annoying is telling volunteer what they have to do
without doing anything yourself on the issues you raise and repeating
don't break Linux
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 01:45:04PM +0100, Domenico Curigliano wrote:
Hello guys,
I experienced an issue with the 7.6 iso downloaded from debian.org.
I don't understand what could be wrong. I tried to burn the iso file
with nero on windows, k3b on linux and I also tried to create a usb
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 09:13:47PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Vi, 17 oct 14, 00:05:50, Chris Bannister wrote:
Lina, could you post to the list only, please.
I haven't dived into systemd issues -- so can't help you, hoping someone
else can.
I see you refer to a [1
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:30:26PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
I completely understand not reinventing the wheel, but if all you need
is a spoke, you don't construct an interface to a whole wheel just to
get your spoke.
A wise old owl lived in an oak
The more he saw the less he spoke
The less
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 11:34:05AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Thanks to those who've provided scripts and pointers to apt- capabilities.
But... both out of curiosity and practicality - to the Debian developers
out there - are there any tools on the SCM or build servers that run
dependency
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 08:53:36AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
2014/10/16 8:14 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz:
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:30:26PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
I completely understand not reinventing the wheel, but if all you need
is a spoke, you don't construct
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 12:49:31AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Chris Bannister wrote:
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 07:45:03PM +0200, Anders Wegge Keller wrote:
It seems that there's a lot of controversy about the SysV-replacement that
should not be named. Most, if not all of the arguments
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 07:01:33AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
I suspect any list with offtopic in its name will get ignored when there
is a large number of people want to say something about a specific topic.
Would a list whose address was debian-user-newfeatures be more attractive?
Are
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 08:47:28AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Why? Help and discussion among users of Debian seems like a perfectly
good description and scope, of long standing.
That is true, but look at the confusion it causes --- it gives the
impression that anything can be discussed
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 08:05:00AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
To bounce all of those invalid addresses not only would further
increase the amount of junk on the internet,
That is pure and absolute nonsense. The vast majority of spam comes from
botnets, and *rejecting* garbage from these
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 09:31:19AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
Chris Bannister writes:
I thought there was a difference between a closed list (only
subscribers can post) and a moderated list (each post is scrutinised
for eligibility) --- or have I got the wrong end of the stick?
This list
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 03:53:48AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 09:31:19AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
Chris Bannister writes:
I thought there was a difference between a closed list (only
subscribers can post) and a moderated list (each post is scrutinised
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:40:59AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 02:50:32 +0200
lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
Joey Hess jo...@debian.org writes:
So at this point, most of us are pretty tired of the subject.
And just ignore it and the consequences because you're tired
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 06:40:01PM +0200, Anders Wegge Keller wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 17:33:55 +0100
Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
This to one of our best and most measured contributors. It's enough to
make one weep.
He could have been the pope. His attitude is part of the
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 02:42:52PM +0200, JPT wrote:
Hi,
I have an ARM hardware (ReadyNAS rn104) running debian jessie (testing).
kernel is selfbuilt 3.16.3
Since a few days the system fails to boot. Serial console breaks at a
point where it is fiddling with disks and network.
Networking
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 03:20:27PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
Quite. It is ALL there. I keep hoping that something will be the basics for
beginners (which is where we started on this thread). Teaching notes for
college sounded great.
Also have a read of this:
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 07:14:29PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org wrote:
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 02:48:55PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 19:02:08 +0100 Martin Read zen75...@zen.co.uk wrote:
On 12/10/14 18:13, John
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 02:10:11PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
Which is another way of saying that you want others to have already made
the mistakes for you.
No it isn't! Ponder why most people take their car to a mechanic for
servicing.
And you snipped:
As long as you recognize
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 07:59:24AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Matthias Urlichs wrote:
Hi,
lee:
I'm sure we could find quite a few supporters for having a GR amongst
the users (here).
We don't do a GR among our users. We do that among Debian
members/maintainers/developers/take-your-pick.
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 07:45:03PM +0200, Anders Wegge Keller wrote:
It seems that there's a lot of controversy about the SysV-replacement that
should not be named. Most, if not all of the arguments for, as well as
against seem to be of a philosophical, rather than stringent technichnical
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 07:53:03AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
2014/10/13 2:14 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com:
On Du, 12 oct 14, 10:30:52, The Wanderer wrote:
On 10/12/2014 at 10:07 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
Any program that requires additional scripting just to get it running
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 09:23:08PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Sb, 11 oct 14, 13:01:38, James Ensor wrote:
And, just for the record, I started this exercise just because I was
curious what would happen if I removed systemd. I don't claim to
understand all the complexities of init
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 09:40:49PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
Now that I've said that, you can accomplish some pretty incredible
things by gluing a few commands together. I wrote the better half of a
http log evaluation program using a shellscript gluing together grep,
cut, and awk, and piped
On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 06:52:20PM +0100, Brian wrote:
On Tue 07 Oct 2014 at 17:18:56 +, Curt wrote:
On 2014-10-07, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
Self-censorship is one way of characterizing it. Another
characterization would be sticking to the facts.
A third
On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 05:58:53PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
On Thu, 09 Oct 2014 06:18:09 +1000
Stuart Longland stua...@longlandclan.yi.org wrote:
The hard bit about things like firewalling, is that there is really a
minimum technical understanding necessary to do it properly.
You've
On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 10:00:59AM +0100, Joe wrote:
On Thu, 9 Oct 2014 18:35:22 +1300
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 07:41:06PM +0100, Joe wrote:
Even fetchmail connects to the MTA on its own host by SMTP.
How have you got yours configured
On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 07:41:06PM +0100, Joe wrote:
Even fetchmail connects to the MTA on its own host by SMTP.
How have you got yours configured? fetchmail connects using the pop3
protocol in my configuration.
--
If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are
On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 08:59:30AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
Hi Steve,
On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 01:23:06AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
1) Don't respond to obvious trolls. Although obvious trolls wasn't
defined
Since there is probably some concern that an obvious troll might not
On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 09:05:08AM +0100, Joe wrote:
On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:52:51 +0300
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
On Lu, 06 oct 14, 21:26:33, Joe wrote:
So your choice is between testing and unstable, Jessie and Sid. Sid
is a rougher ride, more likely to have
On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 02:00:42PM +1000, Stuart Longland wrote:
Even though I tell apt-get to force download of the package sources
(which, I might add, I can personally vouch for as I put them there), it
refuses to do so because the package repository is unsigned.
Now I *could*
On Sun, Oct 05, 2014 at 09:51:54PM +1100, Charlie wrote:
As I thought.
Downloaded on a very fast cable connection and burnt the CD on media
which has never had any problems on a modern laptop etc., etc..
Probably, but not certain that I did the checksum confirmation.
I thought it was
On Sun, Oct 05, 2014 at 10:34:57PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
If you think you have found a problem, then as a user of testing you
should report it. You may have found an obscure bug which should be
fixed *before* Jessie becomes the new stable.
As users of testing, we should take a more
On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 11:40:23AM +1000, Stuart Longland wrote:
Hi all,
For some time now my workplace has had an APT repository for in-house
developed packages for software we either produce or support.
This lives on an internal intranet server and is accessed over plain
HTTP. This has
On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 11:48:54AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
Okay, looking at the OP's descriptions of the problems, should we ask the
OP to go ask the release team whether an old netinstall image for testing
should, in general, be able to recover from having the kernel on the CD out
of sync
On Sun, Oct 05, 2014 at 11:16:18PM -0400, Harry Putnam wrote:
Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net writes:
The first question - why do you think you need to relay to other
networks, even if they're your own? Do you have other SMTP servers
running on those networks?
Good question and
On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 04:26:48PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 11:48:54AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
Okay, looking at the OP's descriptions of the problems, should we ask the
OP to go ask the release team whether an old netinstall image for testing
No. Although it has
On Sat, Oct 04, 2014 at 04:22:21PM -0400, Doug wrote:
On 10/04/2014 11:25 AM, John Hasler wrote:
Harry Putnam writes:
So the unwary reader is led to believe that amd means an architecture
different from `pc'.
pc doesn't mean an architecture.
This is probably not much help to the
On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 09:06:17PM +0100, Martin Read wrote:
As such, I'm not clear how this incident is in any way relevant to the
complaint implicit in the remark And all these things are named as systemd
alternative in Debian now and as argument that the systemd is not only one
possible
On Thu, Oct 02, 2014 at 08:11:56AM -0400, Marty wrote:
d-nukem (bold)
Could be confused with Duke Nukem! A better name would be
system-downgrade
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On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 03:20:06PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
Well, one option would be to install minicom (apt-get will find
it for you), set your default serial port to /dev/ttyS0, set it
at 9600,7,e,1. Then plug it in and see if tapping W gets you
a response.
/dev/ttyS0 will look just
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