t a specific version of a
> package ('apt-cache show' gives details for all available
> versions)
. when things go wrong, its output can be confusing even to
experts; an interactive dependency resolver is much easier to
follow in pract
try to see what's going on. The output
will be large, but you could stick it on a web site and see if someone
can work it out.
I've never heard of this problem before. I don't believe it's a common
problem with Debian. Are you sure you don't have a subtle hardware
problem?
npack.txt), and make sure you cd into
the unpacked source directory after getting the source.
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> > from crontab.
>
> You mean like dselect?
Also aptitude. Don't use apt-get for serious administration; 'apt-get
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Those aren't versions. sarge has 12 CDs (yes, twelve).
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> Does dselect use apt at all?
It can be, and nowadays usually is, configured to do so.
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> This fails with the message "Your kernel is configured with devfs, but
> devfs is not mounted anywhere. This means noflushd cannot work".
Is that the whole message, or is there more? That seems odd at best on
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> update system, which is anchored by Debian's APT (Advanced Packaging
> Tool)
>
> apt stands for 'a package tool', right?
No; see 'man apt'.
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is freely available to all.
It sounds like you haven't read about the basics of Debian, so here's a
link:
http://www.debian.org/intro/about
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controlled. Use a daily businesscard or netinst image from
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> not load. This is happening with sarge and sid, various 2.4
> and 2.6 kernels.
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> On 2004-03-29 15:16:58 +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > pod2man doesn't preclude this. It's only configuration for your local
> > system.
>
> I thought you meant a trick consisting in generating somet
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 03:37:11PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2004-03-29 14:17:52 +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:51:26PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > > And how about apostrophes? They get translated into some Unicode
> > > characte
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 03:44:57PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2004-03-29 14:32:06 +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > If you find one, let me know :-/ I don't believe there's any easy way.
>
> I think there's still the TERM hack (I used to do that with rlogin
:" fields covering the old libraries.
I understand that the new XFree86 packages are going to stop conflicting
with the old libc5-based X libraries in the next update.
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> story.)
With current daily debian-installer images (netcfg >= 0.58, last week or
so), booting with the netcfg/use_dhcp=false parameter will disable the
DHCP probe.
To change an existing install, look in /etc/network/interfaces.
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On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:51:26PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2004-03-28 21:06:03 +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > (a) Please see /usr/share/doc/groff/README.Debian; (b) it shouldn't
> > actually garble them, merely display Unicode HYPHEN-MINUS, so what
> > versi
they really mean dashes and
> not hyphens.
Absolutely. You might like to send patches, though; it seems to be hard
to explain sometimes.
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(a) Please see /usr/share/doc/groff/README.Debian; (b) it shouldn't
actually garble them, merely display Unicode HYPHEN-MINUS, so what
versions of man-db, groff, your pager, and your terminal emulator are
you using?
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le so I don't think that line gets much use in my
> sources.list).
testing/updates is to all intents and purposes empty at the moment.
There are no coordinated security updates for testing except right
before a release.
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> Am Sonntag, 28. März 2004 19:06 schrieb Colin Watson:
> > The release team is likely to remove unimportant packages with
> > release-critical bugs once the installer is ready.
>
> When is the installer
things
> about debian-installer.
You should test it for yourself and send reports, please, rather than
going on really bad things you hear.
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> Am Sonntag, 28. März 2004 18:25 schrieb Colin Watson:
> > On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 04:46:27PM +0200, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote:
> > > I just discovered the recent increase of the numer of
> > > release-cr
guess release timelines based on the number of
release-critical bugs.
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On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 12:09:52PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> A ssh connection was closed due to the following error:
>
> Disconnecting: Bad packet length 3265385124.
>
> Where does this come from? Is it a bug?
Details? (ssh client/server version, ssh -vvv output)
-
gt; o Use zsh and set $PERL_BADLANG to "0" by adding this line to
> $HOME/.zshenv: "export PERL_BADLANG=0"
And why is that zsh-specific?
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>LANG = (unset)
>are supported and installed on your system.
> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C")
Use 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' to generate the en_US.UTF-8 locale.
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> and which of Window UI is superior?
We'll be using XFree86 4.3 in the next release. For the release after
that, we'll see how the situation pans out.
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> >
> > http://lwn.net/Articles/61490/
> > (look under "the status of dynamic devices in 2.6")
>
> This seems to say udev isn't ready for prime time.
2.6 is a fast-moving world, and the page above dates from 2.6.0-test11.
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libqhull5 is a bug, though, namely bug #237929.
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On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 10:30:21AM -0500, Lorenzo Prince wrote:
> Thus spake Colin Watson:
> # > Ign http://mentors.debian.net unstable/main Release
> #
> # That shouldn't be a problem, should it?
>
> It looks like one. All the other sites in my sources.list say "
bian.net/debian unstable main contrib non-free
>
> to /etc/apt/sources.list and execute
>
> apt-get update
>
> But when I do this, I get lines of output that look like this:
>
> Ign http://mentors.debian.net unstable/main Release
That shouldn'
gh, that you might not have run 'apt-cdrom add'.)
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> so you can "man -a xterm", "q", then "return",
> to see what should be "man xterm".
Upgrading to man-db 2.4.2-13 should fix that problem. (The changelog
entry is a bit obscure, sorry; but it turned out to be a very
complicated bug.)
Chee
probably a bug, it's not a sign of poor maintenance since
we just don't have the infrastructure to do it right yet.
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base-files (3.0.13) unstable; urgency=low
* Added /srv, /media and /usr/local/share/man (Closes: #230909).
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s expenses, so donations
> (http://www.debian.org/devel/join/) are always welcome.
While this is true, I'd just like to say that you have no more moral
obligation to donate than you have legal obligation. Share and enjoy. I
was about to say that often we appreciate donations of time far
t; dependant programs (apache-ssl, exim-tsl, ...) in order to make the
> > update effective?
>
> Isn't sshd restarted by the upgrade process, if it is necessary to do
> so? (Or is that only if sshd is upgraded?)
Generally, the latter.
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upgrade to sid from there.
> I think at that point you're supposed to manually install the OS without
> instructions.
No, it's not meant to work that way.
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On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 01:31:52PM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Colin Watson wrote:
> >On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 06:14:00PM +, john gennard wrote:
> >>I can't read the full descriptions of certain packages in the above
> >>output.
> >>
> >
On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 06:14:00PM +, john gennard wrote:
> I can't read the full descriptions of certain packages in the above output.
>
> I had the same problem some time ago and Colin Watson gave me
> a command to change the column width of the output. Now I'm
> em
rry about filing a bug
now, though - I've just fixed this. Thanks for the report!
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> like to user:
> "
>
> ?
Boot with DEBCONF_PRIORITY=medium (or drop the priority with the menu
item, if you see it), and I believe you can then choose.
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so I guess I'm biased ...
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> vbox3 - voice response system for isdn4linux
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> Seems there is no putty package in Woody, so you would have to compile
> it or get it from somewhere else.
http://people.debian.org/~cjwatson/putty/
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> whoot, is it actually possible to install everything,
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> Colin Watson wrote:
> >But your setup has more or less the same properties: someone only has to
> >gain access to your account, wait until you next type 'su', and then
> >sniff your password. Easy.
>
wait until you next type 'su', and then
sniff your password. Easy. sudo with NOPASSWD makes it pretty blatantly
equivalent, sure, but I would consider any account that regularly
escalates to root to be security-equivalent to root.
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of other systems, the US' mail system is dreadful compared to that of
many other first-world countries.
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> 13 CD) named something to the effect of: "base install complete
> the rest of your install via the Internet."
If anything I think netinsts are going to be far better publicized and
supported than they were in woody.
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> Colin Watson writes:
> > No, it's not, because you very likely don't need them all. It's not
> > as if the installer requires registration of all 13 before it lets
> > you do anything else.
>
&g
I'm amazed ymessenger even works, since libssl0.9.6 and libssl0.9.7
provide libraries with different sonames. Perhaps some SSL-specific bit
of it will fail.
You could install libssl0.9.6, which is still available in unstable and
can be installed in parallel
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 08:32:56AM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> Colin Watson writes:
> > No, it's not, because you very likely don't need them all. It's not
> > as if the installer requires registration of all 13 before it lets
> > you do anything else.
>
the same error. What should I do now?
/var/lib/dpkg/status is corrupt. Can you dig an older version out of
/var/lib/dpkg/status-old or /var/backups/dpkg.status.*, perhaps? Check
for differences with the current version before just copying it into
place, and keep a copy of the corrupt versio
nd dpkg-reconfigure don't even come from the same package. They're
completely separate save for the (some might say confusing) name. But
just you try to run a Debian system without dpkg.
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> The LSB/FSH has deprecated /usr/local and now it is /opt.
I see no such deprecation in the latest version of the FHS (or any
previous version). The two have slightly different purposes.
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> I have reported this also in the bugreports, but I get the impression
> that that is a bottomless pit somehow.
It's unlikely that you'll get better help here than on debian-boot.
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handles all the details above. See:
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-chroot
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> > it either.
>
> http://www.freesoft.org/CIE/RFC/2068/67.htm
I know what PUT *is*; that wasn't my question. (Also, RFC 2616 obsoletes
2068.)
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> Don't you read Slashdot?
Good grief, what's the point of reading Slashdot? :) It's such a
cesspit, articles and comments both ...
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> > PUT functionality).
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> Since when? All that I've seen do...
PUT, as opposed to POST, really? I don't think I've ever seen it either.
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As I understand it, it's difficult because the known_hosts format would
need to be changed.
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That suggests to me that you're out of memory. Check your system logs
for out-of-memory killer messages.
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Follow debian-devel-announce for news.
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I think your solution's reasonable. The text in README.Debian dates from
before 3.8 and ForwardX11Trusted (although it's still applicable).
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> be quite happy to "freeze" it until newer versions make their way into
> the testing distro, if this won't cause problems.
That's probably simplest.
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On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 05:34:42PM -0800, Number Six wrote:
> http://www.sunbeamtech.com/new/products/el/el%20series-el%20badge.htm
Keep Debian out of this. And for pity's sake pick a From: line and stick
to it; the name-changing got old some time back.
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. Alternatively, do it by hand (laborious, but should
work):
mknod -m 0660 /dev/hdm b 88 0
chown root:disk /dev/hdm
for x in `seq 1 20`; do
mknod -m 0660 /dev/hdm"$x" b 88 "$x"
chown root:disk /dev/hdm"$x"
done
Likewise for hdo, but substitute 89 for 88
ere all the error messages of his X
> apps would scroll by (if any, ofc).
>
> From my current understanding, it would catch everything that any X app
> sends to STDERR. I think this could be useful, but have no clue how to
> get it.
Sounds like xconsole. It
your password
file etc. might not be in /etc/passwd. For instance, debian.org systems
have a stub /etc/passwd file with system users, and the rest of the
password file is in a database file distributed from a central LDAP
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On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 04:24:52AM -0800, gEEk wrote:
> Do anyone notice that 2.6 got disappeared in sarge?
>
> Why?
Accident. 2.6.3 should get there in a few days.
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> On Thursday 04 March 2004 02:02, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 08:56:49PM +0100, Ruben Porras wrote:
> > > so, echo $SHELL seems not to be reliable, how could I now which
> > > shell I am
at the top specifying the
interpreter to use.
In practice I've never found myself needing a shell variable to let me
know in any other situation either; I know what my login shell is, and I
can use 'getent passwd | grep ^whatever-my-user-name-is' to find out if
I don't.
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 05:12:33PM +, Clive Menzies wrote:
> On (03/03/04 13:57), Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 11:45:17AM +, Clive Menzies wrote:
> > > Upgrading yesterday, aptitude reported critical bug(s) in dpkg - it
> > > seems to have
Anyone can report a bug.
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>
>
> /target/usr/bin/awk:
> File exits
Make sure that the target filesystem is empty.
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can work around this with
> # apt-get install foo
> # apt-get --purge remove foo
> but that seems silly. Is there a "correct" way to purge foo?
dpkg --purge foo
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>
> ln: /target/usr/bin/awk: File exists
As I understand it, that usually happens if you're trying to install
onto a non-empty partition. The target filesystem needs to be blank.
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> On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 12:13:00PM +0000, Colin Watson wrote:
> > I'm sorry, but there's no facility in dpkg to log installations at the
> > moment: it's a long-standing enhancement request. You either
an the
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comparing /var/lib/dpkg/status, /var/lib/dpkg/status-old, and
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On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 02:21:04AM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 09:06:34PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote:
> > This means that unless SOMETHING is done about the license, it has just
> > become Non-Free. Sorry.
>
> Before spreading FUD, please understand t
spreading FUD, please understand that "GPL-incompatible" is *not*
the same as non-free. XFree86 4.4 is still under a DFSG-free licence.
Cheers,
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h a bit of both. Working on such broken
packages is most certainly an activity that does happen at the moment,
but could sometimes do with better organization.
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On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 12:58:41PM -, James Ireson wrote:
> Dselect is telling me that Spamassassin wants libc6 2.3.2-1 but all
> that's available is 2.2.5-11.5...
Install a version backported to stable rather than trying to install the
one from testing/unstable directly.
Cheers,
uch prefer putting things in shell startup files to messing with
/etc/environment.
Cheers,
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option.
> I'll change in elinks, too. I don't know whether that's a good approach or
> not (deb-make creates the 'prefix' form, and it seemed to be right so far).
> All automagically debianised package seem to use prefix form, too...
*shrug* If it works,
ot found.
>
> I had a look around and realized that the libapache2-request-perl
> package
The only such package I see is in experimental, not even unstable. As
such, you take it as you find it (and file bugs) ...
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a version of Debian other than stable.
I thought we got rid of everything that had real files in /usr/doc, as
opposed to a symlink into /usr/share/doc, for woody. (In fact, I'm
nearly sure of it; I was involved in the effort to keep track of the
stragglers and fix the bugs.)
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you don't get "no,
I'm going *this* way" situations.)
(I contemplated taking this to private mail; probably should've done ...
I invite replies by private mail.)
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