Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-18 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-18, Richard Hobson wrote: > Curt wrote: >> Of course, if you have no network connectivity on the machine, this >> might prove to be a difficult maneuver. However, you could download the >> package from another machine with connectivity and transfer it via sneaker

Re: sending mail via a script

2019-07-18 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-17, Dan Ritter wrote: >> >> Fibre is point-to-point, and any interference with it will cause a >> significant drop in received signal, which will be investigated. > > And it will be located swiftly, thanks to time-domain > reflectrometry: > >

Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-17 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-17, Richard Hobson wrote: > > usb 1-2: Direct firmware load for rtlwifi/rtl8712u.bin failed with error -2 > > usb 1-2: r8712u: Firmware request failed. > > Does this suggest the appropriate firmware isn't available locally? I think so. > If so some help on how I obtain it would be

Re: Keyboard layout reset when launching X under display managers

2019-07-17 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-17, David Banks wrote: > Hi, using Buster, I have my /etc/default/keyboard set up like this: > > XKBOPTIONS="pc105" > XKBLAYOUT="gb" > XKBOPTIONS="ctrl:nocaps" > BACKSPACE="guess" > XKBVARIANT="" > > I am using Fluxbox without any configuration. When I launch

Re: Buster install

2019-07-13 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Saturday 13 July 2019, Ansgar Burchardt was heard to say: |   The first difference is probably the most user visible one. Doing |   plain 'su' is a really bad idea for many reasons, so using 'su -' is |   strongly recommended to always get a

Re: Buster install

2019-07-13 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Saturday 13 July 2019, Curt Howland was heard to say: > Just installed Buster. > > I know some kinks will work out, but seriously, /sbin is not in > root's path by default? Ok, the problem is /etc/profile is not being run when the

Buster install

2019-07-13 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Just installed Buster. I know some kinks will work out, but seriously, /sbin is not in root's path by default? - -- You may my glories and my state dispose, But not my griefs; still am I king of those. --- William Shakespeare, "Richard II"

Re: Don't disable recoomends by default

2019-07-13 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-12, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >> Either way it won't break (a hint - Recommends weren't always the >> default), or the user will learn something new in a process. > > I'm pretty sure Jonas was around when that happened ;) > I've always used apt-get until apt rolled around recently and

Re: chromebook

2019-07-12 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-12, wrote: > > > I have the impression you're being blindsided by ideology there. To me, C’est l’hôpital qui se moque de la charité. -- “We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.” ― Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan

Re: no sound from MPV

2019-07-10 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-10, Sharon Kimble wrote: > Ever since upgrading to buster I've been completely unable to get any > sound out of MPV. And I haven't found any way online of how to > re-enable sound f or it either. SMplayer works okay and gives sound, > as does mpd, but MPV vie ws a television

Re: fix for no ssh

2019-07-10 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-10, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > After that, it would be *wonderful* to have a well-written, comprehensive > summary of the situation, and all of the available options, and their > benefits and drawbacks, so users can choose the best one for their needs. > I agree. -- "These findings

Re: fix for no ssh

2019-07-10 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-10, Andy Smith wrote: > Secondly, the reason I asked you what you would like done is that in > the message I replied to you said that the release notes were > something that users don't read. But your proposed solution is to > put more things in the release notes. I said users don't

Re: fix for no ssh

2019-07-10 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-10, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi Curt, > > On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 07:59:53AM +0000, Curt wrote: >> I think these reserves are relevant and pertinent to the patch >> itself and should be revealed to the user, whom we cannot assume >> or expect to follo

Re: please stop breaking threads (was: Problem Installing DiscoveryStudio2019 in Buster

2019-07-10 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-09, bw wrote: >>We are beginning to diverge here from the sound technical arguments and >>sober, unemotional discourse for which this forum is renown. > > Come on, that's just not true. This list is full of crap and nobody even There was a certain element of jocularity up there that

Re: fix for no ssh

2019-07-10 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-08, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi Curt, > > On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 05:48:24PM -0000, Curt wrote: >> it "amounts to trusting that CPU manufacturer (perhaps with the >> insistence or mandate of a Nation State's intelligence or law >> enforcement agencies) has

Re: please stop breaking threads (was: Problem Installing DiscoveryStudio2019 in Buster

2019-07-09 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-09, bw wrote: > >> Normally, it's sufficient to use a decent mailer instead of a toy or >> ancient Greek fax machine. >> >> -nik >> > > You mean a windows-clone email client? haha, yeah right. I fart in your > general direction. > We are beginning to diverge here from the sound

Re: Steam fail to launch after upgrade to Buster

2019-07-09 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-09, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: >> >> What do these Freudian lapses involving the preposition "of" mean >> (an appeal to the numerous armchair shrinks in the group)? >> > > A writer located in the .fr domain? > "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar" - Sigmund Freud to his daughter Dr. > Anna

Re: Steam fail to launch after upgrade to Buster

2019-07-09 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-09, Curt wrote: >> > > I've read a couple places that installing 'libnss-resolve:i386' fixes > this issue. > What do these Freudian lapses involving the preposition "of" mean (an appeal to the numerous armchair shrinks in the group)? -- "Thes

Re: Steam fail to launch after upgrade to Buster

2019-07-09 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-07, Wang Zhiheng wrote: > Running Steam on debian 10 64-bit > STEAM_RUNTIME is enabled automatically > Pins up-to-date! > WARNING: setlocale('en_US.UTF-8') failed, using locale: 'C'. > International characters may not work. > [2019-07-07 18:37:33] Startup - updater built Jun 17 2019

Re: Problem Installing DiscoveryStudio2019 in Buster

2019-07-09 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-09, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > I followed the Linux Mint Forum directions an got the results shown in > the attached DiscoveryStudio2019.run.log (attached). > Next step(s), please? Thanks for the vote confidence, but it's probably misplaced. ;-) So, I guess, it doesn't run, and

Re: Problem Installing DiscoveryStudio2019 in Buster

2019-07-09 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-08, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > Good idea, but it didn't work! Got the same result, it just took longer. > https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=293074 Fastidious (27 steps!) but maybe effective. Shorter: bash DS2019Client.bin --keep cd client/ sed s/"echoe"/"echo -e"/g

Re: fix for no ssh

2019-07-09 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-08, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 04:18:28PM -0000, Curt wrote: >> Well, looking at Ted Ts'o short patch, where he mentions the security >> implications of the thing at some length, *twice* > > I think that some of Ted's stance migh

Re: fix for no ssh

2019-07-08 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-08, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >> Well, at the very least people should be informed who is likely to be >> affected by the bug > > In my understanding a lot of daemons are affected. Would it make sense > to (try to) list them all? Well, then, you should make that explicit, viz. that

Re: fix for no ssh

2019-07-08 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-08, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > I don't have any opinions at this time about the trustworthiness of > various x86 CPU RDRAND instructions, but... Well, looking at Ted Ts'o short patch, where he mentions the security implications of the thing at some length, *twice*---once in the "intro"

Re: fix for no ssh

2019-07-08 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-08, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > The timing was also not very good for the buster release cycle. > Hopefully this will be sorted out properly in time for bullseye. Earlier I thought bullseye was some sort of idiom for Buster going live. Color me ignorant. But concerning the currently

Re: xfce4-screenshooter does not copy images to clipboard

2019-07-08 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-07, Erik Dobák wrote: > > same behavior with xclip -o --selection clip-board > clip10.txt > I think you must pipe the primary to the clipboard before redirecting the clipboard to a file. xclip -o | xclip -sel clip > clip10.txt https://github.com/astrand/xclip I was unaware of this

Re: fix for no ssh

2019-07-08 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-08, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > The timing was also not very good for the buster release cycle. > Hopefully this will be sorted out properly in time for bullseye. That would be great. Then if they could resuscitate ecryptfs-utils I would be a happy camper. ;-) > Kind regards, > Andrei

Re: fix for no ssh

2019-07-08 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-08, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Lu, 08 iul 19, 09:44:51, Curt wrote: >> On 2019-07-08, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> > >> > On Lu, 08 iul 19, 09:06:33, Curt wrote: >> >> On 2019-07-08, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> >>

Re: fix for no ssh

2019-07-08 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-08, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Lu, 08 iul 19, 09:06:33, Curt wrote: >> On 2019-07-08, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> > >> > This was fixed before the release. >> What? > > Is there something wrong with the current wording? I guess, as I th

Re: fix for no ssh

2019-07-08 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-08, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > This was fixed before the release. What? > You are aware that the Release Notes are work in progress as long as the > corresponding Debian release is still in testing, right? > How will the mistakes be fixed if no one points them out? >> misleading (if

Re: fix for no ssh

2019-07-08 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-08, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >> Wow. Another reason to love systemd :-( > > Not clear to me why you are blaming systemd here. > Because systemd is to blame (at least in the opinion of some people in the know, like Stefan Frisch, for instance):

Re: fix for no ssh

2019-07-08 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-07, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > It sounds a lot like this issue: > https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#entropy-starvation Due to systemd needing entropy during boot and the kernel treating such calls as blocking when available entropy is

Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration

2019-07-07 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-06, Lee wrote: > > "an accident waiting to happen" was from me and I also gave the rfc > for mdns, so that's hardly "nothing of substance to support that I see. So the totality of the mdns rfc (*somewhat* more succinct than a 19th century Russian novelistic endeavor) is the

Re: Attributing (was: Choice of VMs under i386 Stretch?)

2019-07-06 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-06, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> (General observation: it's really quite annoying that you remove all >>> attribution when you quote previous emails in your replies.) >> It really is very annoying, primarily because it's intentional, and so >> intentionally annoying, which is really,

Re: RStudio in Stretch Problem(s)

2019-07-06 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-06, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > I am running Stretch RC2 and have encountered a problem attempting to > tun RStudio (-1.2.1335-amd64). Here is the run log: > comp@AbNormal:~$ comp@AbNormal:~$ /usr/bin/rstudio > -bash: comp@AbNormal:~$: command not found > comp@AbNormal:~$ Received

Re: not wanting to delete somebody's home directory

2019-07-06 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-06, songbird wrote: > Curt wrote: >> On 2019-07-05, mick crane wrote: > ... >>> I'm incrementing the number by the loop and some software sees 2 as >>> bigger that 10 or something like this. I can probably get around that by >> >> Not s

Re: not wanting to delete somebody's home directory

2019-07-06 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-05, mick crane wrote: > > I'm incrementing the number by the loop and some software sees 2 as > bigger that 10 or something like this. I can probably get around that by Not sure exactly what you mean by some software, but you must be sorting lexicographically (the numbers are

Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration

2019-07-06 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-05, wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 09:27:29PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > [...] > >> Some users are always fearful of new technology. They find all sorts of >> ways to rubbish it, usually without any strong technical grounds but by >> an appeal to tradition and emotion. > > Some other

Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration

2019-07-05 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-05, Gene Heskett wrote: > > pi@picnc:/ $ sudo apt update > Get:1 http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian buster InRelease [15.0 kB] > Get:2 http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian buster InRelease [25.1 kB] > Reading package lists... Done > E: Release file for >

Re: kde kmail to much email Unable to fetch item from backend

2019-07-05 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-04, Thomas wrote: > Hello, > I have an Gmail Mail account and lots of email. > Iam not able to open this folder succesfull anymore. > After some time I get this message. > Unable to fetch item from backend (collection -1) Unable to retrieve item > from > resource. > > Whats the

Re: Choice of VMs under i386 Stretch?

2019-07-04 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-04, Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 11:26:39AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> If it had been done 10 years ago it wouldn't need to be done now. :) > > (General observation: it's really quite annoying that you remove all > attribution when you quote previous emails in

Re: How to have password shown?

2019-07-04 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-04, deloptes wrote: > Renato Gallo wrote: > >> Fingerprints are a good option >> >> Renato Gallo >> > > No, they are not and it was explained previously why > Sure they are (depending on the use case/implementation). These things are completely comparative and situational and your

Re: Choice of VMs under i386 Stretch?

2019-07-03 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-03, wrote: > >> I have an innate desire to help people, but more importantly I give >> people the benefit of the doubt. Besides I self-taught myself a few >> things along the way, so I consider it a win. > > I prefer that one, too :) People get the benefit of the doubt until they

Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported?

2019-07-03 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-03, Stephan Seitz wrote: > >>Following Curt's suggestion I removed the relevant module and rebooted. >>'ip a' shows eth0. The advice in the Release Notes > > You probably meant that you removed the line? > > I noticed that since Debian 9 this file is added to the initrd. So if you >

Re: How Buster release may affect Unstable?

2019-07-02 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-02, Curt wrote: > On 2019-07-01, Joe wrote: >> >> Debian's main selling point is that a Stable can *always* be upgraded >> in place to the next version, so that kind of incompatibility does not > > Then it will fail to live up to the market

Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster)

2019-07-02 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-02, The Wanderer wrote: >> Not even that, it seems (no longer affects systemd). > > Have you confirmed that? It seems possible that on a systemd machine, > things in other packages (such as whatever would provide that > 99-default.link file, which unfortunately - because it's under

Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster)

2019-07-02 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-02, The Wanderer wrote: >> https://www.debian.org/releases///buster/s390x/release-notes/ch-informa= > tion.en.html#migrate-interface-names > > (Any particular reason you linked to the s390x version of the release > notes? It seems to match e.g. the amd64 one for this purpose, so it >

Re: Choice of VMs under i386 Stretch?

2019-07-02 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-02, Richard Owlett wrote: > > A restatement of my question might be: > > I run the i386 version of Debian 9.8. > Using only contents of that set of installation DVDs, I wish to use a VM > host capable of running multiple VM guests. Although the guests will be > running in command

Re: How Buster release may affect Unstable?

2019-07-02 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-01, Joe wrote: > > Debian's main selling point is that a Stable can *always* be upgraded > in place to the next version, so that kind of incompatibility does not Then it will fail to live up to the marketing for the brave 600 or so Debian users (according to Popularity Contest)

Re: Choice of VMs under i386 Stretch?

2019-07-01 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-01, Matthew Crews wrote: > On 7/1/19 10:35 AM, Curt wrote: >> On 2019-07-01, Matthew Crews wrote: >>> >>> At a cursory glance, it does NOT appear that DVD-1 contains any VM Host >>> software, other than perhaps nspawn (which is part of Systemd). &g

Re: Choice of VMs under i386 Stretch?

2019-07-01 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-01, Matthew Crews wrote: > > At a cursory glance, it does NOT appear that DVD-1 contains any VM Host > software, other than perhaps nspawn (which is part of Systemd). Isn't nspawn a chroot container? > Hope this helps. >

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-07-01 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-01, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> > >> > For whatever it's worth, when I upgraded this machine from stretch to >> > buster a couple months ago, it continued using eth0 as the interface >> > name without any immediately obvious issues. I did the conversion to >> > "predictable interface

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-07-01 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-01, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jul 01, 2019 at 07:47:35AM -0000, Curt wrote: >> Another, less serious, gotcha for those inveterate upgraders and newbies >> who don't read the release notes is that >> '/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules' is no longer

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-07-01 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-01, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Mon, Jul 01, 2019 at 01:14:07PM -0000, Curt wrote: >>The second triad of NUMBER % RANK columns corresponds to the number of people >>using the package regularly* and by that metric ecryptfs-utils beats encfs by >>a >>rela

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-07-01 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-01, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 01 July 2019 03:52:55 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >> On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 12:45:57PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >At this point, I'd call it a buster delaying bug. That last is going >> > to cost too many that can't ignore it and don't have

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-07-01 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-30, Andrea Borgia wrote: > Il 30/06/19 11:52, Curt ha scritto: > >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=928956 >> >> Due to #765854 ecryptfs-utils has been removed from Buster. >> The kernel module (ecryptfs.ko) is still built but depe

Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-06-30 Thread Curt
I was preparing an upgrade to Buster until I saw this: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=928956 Due to #765854 ecryptfs-utils has been removed from Buster. The kernel module (ecryptfs.ko) is still built but depending on the upgrade path users will be unable to mount their

Re: Function similar to {apt-cache recurse ...}?

2019-06-28 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-28, Richard Owlett wrote: >> >> I read the OP's question as "the total installed size including >> dependencies" -- assuming none of those dependencies has been >> installed before (ex nihilo, so to speak). > > Explicitly *YES*! > It's nice to have someone actually read what I write

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-06-28 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-28, deloptes wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > >> There was a period a decade back where the capacitors >> were legendarily bad.  Your unit may have some of them in it. > > It was around 2004. From a trustful source I understood that the Chinese > manage to steal the formula from Japan,

Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices

2019-06-25 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-25, Hans wrote: > > When it was decided to use new names, then ALL related packages should be > adapted to the new style. If it is not done, this is a bug. More over, IMO it > is a critical release bug. For a new release I expect those things fixed. It > is > a thing of quality.

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

2019-06-25 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-25, Aidan Gauland wrote: >> >> In this hypothetical scenario, the sudoers rule is applied to ALL >> systems, including production ones, and sysadmins doesn't have proper >> backups. > OK, not having a (good) backup system is definitely bad.  You should > always have that even if your

Re: How can we check that a compressed file is rsyncable ?

2019-06-25 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-25, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 12:42:37PM -0000, Curt wrote: >> On 2019-06-22, Andy Smith wrote: >> > I am not aware of any other compression tool that offers to do what >> > gzip's --rsyncable option does, but I owuld be intere

Re: How can we check that a compressed file is rsyncable ?

2019-06-24 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-22, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 07:59:18PM +0400, Jerome BENOIT wrote: >> I was refering to the long option --rsyncable of gzip(1). > > I am not aware of any other compression tool that offers to do what > gzip's --rsyncable option does, but I owuld be

Re: Off topic: German. Was: Off topic: Carbon. Was: Off topic: remaja (teens)

2019-06-23 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-23, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sunday, June 23, 2019 09:55:33 AM Nicholas Geovanis wrote: >> "If I told you you had beautiful body, would you hold it against me?" >> -same sketch > > Something makes me think / remember that was not original with Monty Python > -- > I think it was

Re: L2TP VPN client

2019-06-23 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-23, David Christensen wrote: > > STFW I see: > > https://www.bestvpnz.com/tutorials/how-to-set-up-l2tp-ipsec-vpn-on-linux-networkmanager-strongswan/ > > I have installed: > > 2019-06-22 19:04:11 root@tinkywinky ~ > # dpkg-query --show xl2tpd strongswan network-manager-strongswan >

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

2019-06-22 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-22, deloptes wrote: > Brad Rogers wrote: > >>>Is it a TV program or a computer program? >> >> On TV, it's a programme. >> > > thank you In British English.

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

2019-06-22 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-22, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> You seem to be assuming that Mr. Banjaya is in the USA. While that is >> not impossible, given the Javanese name and non-USA usage of English, >> I suspect that it is not correct. > > Thats entirely possible Carl, so you could well be correct, but after

Re: big-cursor DOA in Stretch

2019-06-20 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-20, Bob Bernstein wrote: > >> ...detain these droids and bring them before the emporer > > What's an "emporer?" It must be an emperor suffering from a metathesis. > Thank you >

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

2019-06-20 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-20, Bagas Sanjaya wrote: > >> I think we (or at least I) must be missing some context here. For >> starters, this must be some specific group of teenagers. And I'm sure >> they're not given permission to take over running the whole TV station. >> >> Is this some specific educational

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-17 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-17, Sarunas Burdulis wrote: > >..or install Adobe Reader 9.5.5, which is still available on Adobe FTP > > server. Very rarely needed here, but it works. > I wonder about the advisability of running software that hasn't received security updates since 2013.

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

2019-06-17 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Monday 17 June 2019, Gene Heskett was heard to say: > How is that resolved, by unroutable address blocks such > as 192.168.xx.xx is now? Yes, IPv6 does have such allocations. The first 64bits is network block, then the last 64bits are your

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-15 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-15, Curt wrote: > On 2019-06-15, Erik Christiansen wrote: >> On 14.06.19 10:51, Celejar wrote: >>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 18:50:22 +1000 >>> Erik Christiansen wrote: >>> > I only use mupdf for problem pdf files, but it's very nifty to have on >

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-15 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-15, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 14.06.19 10:51, Celejar wrote: >> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 18:50:22 +1000 >> Erik Christiansen wrote: >> > I only use mupdf for problem pdf files, but it's very nifty to have on >> > hand. >> >> I actually love mupdf, and I use it as my main pdf reader.

Re: strange behaviour with RDP clients connecting to Windows 10 machines

2019-06-14 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-14, john doe wrote: > > Not realy an answer, depending on what you need vnc for, one alternative > would be to use Cygwin as an ssh server on the Windows boxes. He might try removing ~/.config/freerdp/known_hosts (after backing it up) or commenting out or deleting the offending host

Re: Preseed file and hostname not used on installed system

2019-06-11 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-11, john doe wrote: > > In other words, how can I set the hostname while using a preseed file > loaded with 'auto url=server'. > > Any input is welcome. Maybe this bug report (patch from canonical at bottom) will be of help (although the patch checks for netcfg/hostname in the preseed

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-10 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-10, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> Maybe >> >> sudo systemctl stop serial-getty@ttyS0.service >> >> if you haven't already tried it. > > No, after a reboot, I don't need to. > > minicom is working, sorta. Theres enough diffs in the protocol to > call "working" by a rather fuzzy

Re: Severe vulnerability in Exim 4.87 through 4.91

2019-06-10 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-10, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Jun 08, 2019 at 04:50:06PM -0000, Curt wrote: >> https://lwn.net/Articles/790553/ >> >> I was actually going to point to another article on the subject, but as >> it revealed the exact modus operandi for the (local) e

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-10 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-06, Gene Heskett wrote: > > What do I do next to get rid of this nearly invisible agetty gizmo once > this machine is booted? It might be handy if this machine is truly > hung, but I can count those instances on one hand with fingers left over > in the 21 years I have been a

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-09 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-09, wrote: > > What's much? What's little? > > This was just a typical useless anti-systemd slur: 12 million lines of 1.2 millions lines, actually, because the url dropped the decimal point, thus multiplying by a factor of ten the other point, which I agree is meaningless in and of

Severe vulnerability in Exim 4.87 through 4.91

2019-06-08 Thread Curt
https://lwn.net/Articles/790553/ I was actually going to point to another article on the subject, but as it revealed the exact modus operandi for the (local) exploit (which is trivial to an extreme) I thought better of it. -- “Decisions are never really made – at best they manage to emerge,

Re: Date format for Thunderbird 60.7 -- partial success in changing it

2019-06-05 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-05, Ken Heard wrote: > > The latest version of Thunderbird for Debian Stretch, 70.7 which I now > use, still allows only the US date format, MM-DD-, but for me at > least expresses the time as HH:MM (24 hour clock). In a partially > successful attempt to change the date format I

Re: Using ISO image of installer DVD as repository - How?

2019-06-02 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-02, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I've read those man pages but never put them together that way. > I'm hoping that reading > https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-handbook/apt.en.html > will either fill the gaps in my background or point me appropriately. > > My thinking went along

Re: Using ISO image of installer DVD as repository - How?

2019-06-01 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-01, Brian wrote: > > It can happen that a line such as > > deb file:///home/richard/dvdmount pool/main/ > > gives the error message " ... does not have a Release file > > Leaving aside the validity of the line,

Re: Ping as normal user (Was: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?)

2019-05-30 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-30, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > So the explanation in > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=780721#10 > > iputils-ping, as priority "important", cannot declare a dependency on > libcap2-bin, which is priority "optional". > > is wrong and in direct contradiction to The

Re: Problems {PEBKAC?} running mmdebstrap for 1st time

2019-05-30 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-30, Richard Owlett wrote: > Up until a couple of years ago I only had dial-up. Install DVDs {or > their images} were my only choice for a repository. There are {now > forgotten} apt related quirks to be aware of. I'm now giving myself a > refresher course on using an install DVD (

Re: Ping as normal user (Was: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?)

2019-05-30 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-30, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 01:00:19PM -0000, Curt wrote: >> On 2019-05-30, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> > But libcap2-bin is priority important in both stretch and buster. >> >> Why is my Stretch apt-cache command telling me it's prio

Re: Ping as normal user (Was: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?)

2019-05-30 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-30, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 09:11:44AM -0000, Curt wrote: >> There is a bug related to this imbroglio: >> >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=780721 >> (libcap2-bin is recommended but is not a dependancy of iputils-pin

Re: Problems {PEBKAC?} running mmdebstrap for 1st time

2019-05-30 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-27, Richard Owlett wrote: > > That left me with the problem of telling the instance of apt being run > internally by mmdebstrap that dvd1.iso is trusted. I unsuccessfully > tried using the distribution DVD itself. > > What is the proper syntax to use dvd1.iso {preferred} or DVD in

Re: Ping as normal user (Was: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?)

2019-05-30 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-29, Andy Smith wrote: > > How did you install this system? Because /bin/ping is supposed to > come with file capabilities such that the user can allow it to do > what it needs to do (this is part of what 'dpkg-reconfigure > iputils-ping' restores). So it would be interesting to know

Re: A couple things yet on stretch install, amd64 version

2019-05-30 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-29, Gene Heskett wrote: > > One of the useless things still running is some sort of an spi buss, but > this motherboard has no such hardware. I can kill it with htop, but how > do I remove it totally. From a seaarch in synaptic, it has nothing to do > with Asistive Technology

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-28 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-28, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > > The exim4 installation provides a symbolic link > > snowball:558$ ls -l /usr/sbin/sendmail > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 May 7 11:44 /usr/sbin/sendmail -> exim4* > Actually, the right way to configure reportbug on a local-mail-only system is to "run the

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-28 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-28, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > experimental: 1.18.0-1 > Please try to verify if the bug you are about to report is already addressed > by these releases. Do you still want to file a report [y|N|q|?]? Think I might've entered 'q' here on the off chance it represented the word quit.

Re: reboot stuff doesn't start

2019-05-27 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-26, Gene Heskett wrote: > hum: > root@coyote:GenesAmandaHelper-0.61$ systemctl status rc.local > ● rc-local.service - /etc/rc.local Compatibility >Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/rc-local.service; static; vendor > preset: enabled) I found this (not sure if it's

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-27 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-27, wrote: > > > If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/ tree > (I can't say much about N-M, because I banned it from my boxes about > ten years ago: I was at a customer's, in his LAN via an Ethernet, when > N-M suddenly saw a WLAN out there, out the window

Re: [Possibly fake news] [DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending SIGILL to Systemd

2019-05-25 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-25, wrote: > > Folks, please double-check that stuff before reposting. I don't want > the Debian mailing list to become Fakebook or Twitter. > Or Der Spiegel. https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/01/der-spiegal-fabrication-scandal-global/579889/ -- “Decisions are

Re: Gene you poor soul

2019-05-22 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-22, mick crane wrote: > > probably need the driver on windows as well. Probably one or the other but not both. > mick >

Re: Gene you poor soul

2019-05-22 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-22, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Its working now, and I have other irons in the fire, like how do I print > to a printer shared by cups, from a win 10 Home edition that has taken a > snapshot of its full screen window and has stored it on the win 10 box. I did it like this (I'm failing

Re: got a new problem with heyu, and it is a bug in bfltty that kills all /dev/ttyUSBnumber's

2019-05-22 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-21, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> That I don't know. I don't have it here on my Stretch. It would be >> interesting to discover what dragged brltty into yours. >> > Good question. The install image is supposed to be the latest straight > amd64 debian stretch, with a rt-preempt kernel and

Re: got a new problem with heyu, and it is a bug in bfltty that kills all /dev/ttyUSBnumber's

2019-05-21 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-21, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> We are positively discriminating in favor of the blind. >> >> > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > Then perhaps the better question is why was it running on a new stretch > install? I think it probably could be fixed to keep both camps happy. That I don't know.

Re: got a new problem with heyu, and it is a bug in bfltty that kills all /dev/ttyUSBnumber's

2019-05-21 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-21, Gene Heskett wrote: > > This to me is a bug that needs fixed. No sense in denying someone using There are already oldenbugs flurrying around the question, Gene. Here's one from 2012: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=667616 tags 667616 + wontfix Arthur

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