Re: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration (Swedish with "|")

2019-07-16 Thread Erik Josefsson
Hi David, which "driver doesn't seem to have a clue"? //Erik sorry for top posting On 17 July 2019 01:22:52 CEST, David Wright wrote: >On Sat 11 May 2019 at 10:10:42 (+0200), Erik Josefsson wrote: >> […] >> That encourages me to ask another stupid question

Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?)

2019-06-23 Thread Erik Josefsson
On 6/23/19 8:40 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Is it meaningful to test the SD cards with an USB-adapter? (the MicroSD slot would be occupied by the SD card the machine is running from/on) Testing SD cards on a different controller may help understand _potential_ features of cards, but

Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?)

2019-06-22 Thread Erik Josefsson
Hi Andy, thanks for taking time and for your advise! On 6/22/19 10:22 PM, Andy Smith wrote: Hi Erik, On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 03:02:46PM +0200, Erik Josefsson wrote: Maybe flashbench cannot tell me anything about that anyway? Are there other tools? I'm not familiar with flashbench. I like

Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?)

2019-06-22 Thread Erik Josefsson
to other pressing needs of the community. My use case seems minimal and/or unrealistic. Best regards. //Erik On 22 June 2019 01:00:51 CEST, David Christensen wrote: >On 6/21/19 12:28 AM, Erik Josefsson wrote: >> Hi David, >> >> On 6/19/19 3:38 AM, David Christensen wrote:

Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?)

2019-06-21 Thread Erik Josefsson
On 6/21/19 12:17 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Quoting Erik Josefsson (2019-06-21 09:28:38) On 6/19/19 3:38 AM, David Christensen wrote: The best way to answer your question regarding performance of a size N SD card vs. a size 2*N SD card is to buy two cards and benchmark them using your

Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?)

2019-06-21 Thread Erik Josefsson
Hi David, On 6/19/19 3:38 AM, David Christensen wrote: The best way to answer your question regarding performance of a size N SD card vs. a size 2*N SD card is to buy two cards and benchmark them using your workload.  Please publish your findings. Please find my four (4) findings below or

Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?)

2019-06-20 Thread Erik Josefsson
On 6/19/19 2:04 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Or, a better question, is it within reach to run a Debian Pure Blend on Teres-I without an external SD card? If so, is Dan Ritter right that it will be 2x to 8x faster? Yes, it certainly is within reach, just needs someone to do the reaching. This

Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?)

2019-06-19 Thread Erik Josefsson
On 6/19/19 1:15 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Quoting deloptes (2019-06-19 12:42:13) Jonas Smedegaard wrote: In short, you really_really_ want netinstall from MicroSD! What about debootstrap? IS it possible to use it for that SoC? Certainly. Debian-installer uses debootstrap internally so

Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?)

2019-06-19 Thread Erik Josefsson
Hi Dan, On 6/18/19 11:57 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: Nicholas Geovanis wrote: On Tue, Jun 18, 2019, 4:10 PM Erik Josefsson < erik.hjalmar.josefs...@gmail.com> wrote: The Ubuntu version that Teres-I comes with feels almost as good, which is why I still don't understand why running Debia

Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?)

2019-06-18 Thread Erik Josefsson
On 6/18/19 9:04 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: I need either to drop gui or figure out a way to make the Teres-I laptop perform almost as good as a Lenovo N22-20 Chromebook model 80SF (which is what the kids had last year). Such a Lenovo Chromebook outperforms the Teres-1 on every way. I know,

Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?)

2019-06-18 Thread Erik Josefsson
On 6/18/19 5:46 PM, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: If the computer runs from the SD card, the memory you are talking about is also on that same SD card, no? No. The SD card is analogous to the hard drive, not to the RAM. Thanks! Now things start to make sense again :-) That means there

Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?)

2019-06-18 Thread Erik Josefsson
Hi Andy, thanks for taking time! On 6/18/19 3:14 PM, Andy Smith wrote: There is a very expensive 64GB SD card from SanDisk that is called Extreme Pro that costs twice as much as same size Extreme Plus. Specs say it is "super duper blazing fast" for video in "Ultra HD 4K", but would Pro also be

System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?)

2019-06-18 Thread Erik Josefsson
This is another quite open question that I probably could research myself, if I had the time. As far as I understand, it is quite recent that SD cards are fast and large enough to be able to carry and run an entire Debian instance. If this is the case, maybe there is only theory available

Teres-I

2019-06-16 Thread Erik Josefsson
Hej! Jag har köpt två byggsatser Teres-I: https://www.olimex.com/Products/DIY-Laptop/ och prövar mig fram med en Debian Pure Blend: http://box.redpill.dk/ Är det någon på listan som också har en (eller flera) och har provat installera enligt instruktionen på box.redpill.dk? mvh //Erik

Re: Diagnosing what applications are doing

2019-06-15 Thread Erik Josefsson
On 6/15/19 9:27 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: When I get around to using it myself I will likely add it to one of the addon profiles of thehttps://box.redpill.dk/ images but not the gui profile specifically: It is a command-line tool, not graphical. As far as I can see, pullimap needs

Re: Diagnosing what applications are doing

2019-06-15 Thread Erik Josefsson
On 5/26/19 4:36 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-05-26 16:25:43) On Sunday 26 May 2019 07:05:45 am Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Quoting Paul Sutton (2019-05-26 12:28:43) On my netbook,  Thunderbird seems really unstable, it stars up fine then seems to stall and fails to

Can any setting be changed after an "install Buster from scratch"-procedure?

2019-06-08 Thread Erik Josefsson
Hello, I followed Ken's thread about date format in Thunderbird: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2019/06/msg00133.html and ended up reading about Dot files: https://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles This was very helpful for me, because I think I can now ask the right question: Can every

Re: What to buy for Buster?

2019-05-24 Thread Erik Josefsson
On 5/24/19 5:12 AM, David Christensen wrote: If you get a major brand computer with 64-bit Intel Core technology (ca. 2006) or newer, Debian should run on it. Great! Thanks! The HP Compaq 8200 Elite SFF that I'm about to grab has a Intel Core i5-2400S processor. I browsed the Debian

Re: What to buy for Buster?

2019-05-23 Thread Erik Josefsson
On 5/23/19 4:59 PM, Joe wrote: On Thu, 23 May 2019 15:17:15 + Erik Josefsson wrote: Thanks all for feedback, help and answers to many of my questions, but I feel my available time and my skills put together won't meet the threshold for being able to contribute to Debian in any meaningful

What to buy for Buster?

2019-05-23 Thread Erik Josefsson
Thanks all for feedback, help and answers to many of my questions, but I feel my available time and my skills put together won't meet the threshold for being able to contribute to Debian in any meaningful way for another year or two. I'll have to go back to piggybacking, as I have done for

Re: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration (Swedish with "|")

2019-05-22 Thread Erik Josefsson
On 5/22/19 12:40 PM, David Wright wrote: On Wed 22 May 2019 at 04:06:46 (+), Erik Josefsson wrote: On 5/5/19 7:21 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: I don't know if there is a screw loose in your laptop, or warewolves pissed on a USB plugs. Well, what comes out of one of the keyboards now

Re: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration (Swedish with "|")

2019-05-21 Thread Erik Josefsson
On 5/5/19 7:21 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: I don't know if there is a screw loose in your laptop, or warewolves pissed on a USB plugs. Well, what comes out of one of the keyboards now is p. Could be warewolf p's, or baby drool. It's magic either way. //Erik

Re: intermittent or not? "Could not resolve 'deb.debian.org'"

2019-05-19 Thread Erik Josefsson
On 5/19/19 7:11 AM, Erik Josefsson wrote: Maybe this is of general interest, so a code snippet with where wifi parameters are set could be interesting? And the default(?) DNS settings I guess. Best regards. //Erik

Re: intermittent or not? "Could not resolve 'deb.debian.org'"

2019-05-19 Thread Erik Josefsson
On 5/13/19 11:28 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: The same command of course works perfectly fine when I connect the Teres laptop directly to the internet with an ethernet cable (through USB). I got this same behavior yesterday when firing up a new Debian laptop. Turned out the wireless card was down.

Off topic: non zero error codes

2019-05-18 Thread Erik Josefsson
Good morning, I have wanted to ask for a long time about something I made up from hearsay whether it is remotely true. I hope that's OK. Is there is a shell/language where the returncode for TRUE is zero and that that is the opposite of how all other shells/languages are made? The argument

clone a bootable image (was: Re: intermittent or not? "Could not resolve 'deb.debian.org'")

2019-05-13 Thread Erik Josefsson
Hi john! First, thanks to you and everyone for helpful suggestions. Den 2019-05-12 kl. 08:45, skrev john doe: focus on one card first then clone it!:) I'll focus on this suggestion now l because it sounds like it could save me a lot of time. But before I start, I have to ask if it is

intermittent or not? "Could not resolve 'deb.debian.org'"

2019-05-11 Thread Erik Josefsson
I have successfully put the [5 May Teres image] on three SD cards and all is fine (well, as far as that the exploration of the box-add-gui option goes), except that it seems only one of the SD cards can sometimes connect to deb.debian.org when I do sudo apt update. The other two say "Could

Re: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration (Swedish with "|")

2019-05-11 Thread Erik Josefsson
Den 2019-05-11 kl. 01:22, skrev Jonas Smedegaard: Quoting Erik Josefsson (2019-05-11 00:51:38) My original problem was that I could not figure out how to get both Swedish and pipe "|" at all (which Jonas duly noted by removing "¦" from the original subject line). I edi

Re: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration (Swedish with "|")

2019-05-10 Thread Erik Josefsson
Den 2019-05-10 kl. 18:21, skrev David Wright: On Fri 10 May 2019 at 15:45:34 (+0200), Erik Josefsson wrote: https://www.iso.org/standard/57852.html If it was compliant, then I guess that would make an informed choice of "Keyboard model" easier than it is now. The only r

Re: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration (Swedish with "|")

2019-05-10 Thread Erik Josefsson
Hi David! Thanks for helping me sort out my thoughts! Den 2019-05-06 kl. 22:42, skrev David Wright: On Sun 05 May 2019 at 20:52:40 (+0200), Erik Josefsson wrote: Den 2019-05-05 kl. 16:26, skrev David Wright: Is this some sort of ticking off for wondering why the OP is*so* keen to be able

Re: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration (Swedish with "|")

2019-05-05 Thread Erik Josefsson
Den 2019-05-05 kl. 16:26, skrev David Wright: Is this some sort of ticking off for wondering why the OP is*so* keen to be able to type ¦ directly on the keyboard that they are almost willing to use a USB keyboard with a laptop to get it? Particularly as the wiki page referred to above has a

Re: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration (Swedish with "|")

2019-05-05 Thread Erik Josefsson
Den 2019-05-05 kl. 12:47, skrev Jonas Smedegaard: Quoting Erik Josefsson (2019-05-05 12:06:53) With some stickers to put onto the printed keys I'll be fine. Grateful for pointers to such. Did you try search the web e.g. for "keyboard stickers"? I did! And "swerty&

Re: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration (Swedish with "|")

2019-05-05 Thread Erik Josefsson
Den 2019-05-05 kl. 04:29, skrev Erik Josefsson: Den 2019-05-04 kl. 21:43, skrev Jonas Smedegaard: For danish, picking the layout "Danish (Win keys) has pipe key reachable as AltGr+= (where AltGr is the right Alt key). I also set "Menu" (which is the key between right Alt

Re: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration (Swedish with "|" and "¦"?)

2019-05-04 Thread Erik Josefsson
Den 2019-05-05 kl. 04:31, skrev Doug: What is on the last key on the right, directly above the right Enter key? On a US keyboard, the is a back slant (unshifted) and the pipe, shifted. You haven't mentioned that key at all. The print on that physical key on the Teres laptop is backslash \

Re: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration (Swedish with "|")

2019-05-04 Thread Erik Josefsson
Den 2019-05-04 kl. 21:43, skrev Jonas Smedegaard: For danish, picking the layout "Danish (Win keys) has pipe key reachable as AltGr+= (where AltGr is the right Alt key). I also set "Menu" (which is the key between right Alt and right Ctrl) as compose key. So if you were to make a Danish Teres

Re: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration (Swedish with "|")

2019-05-04 Thread Erik Josefsson
Den 2019-05-04 kl. 19:08, skrev Jonas Smedegaard: Quoting Kenneth Parker (2019-05-04 18:23:48) On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 10:37 AM Erik Josefsson wrote: -> Generic 105-key PC (intl.) -> Other -> Swedish -> Swedish -> The default for the keyboard layout -> No compose key

Re: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration (Swedish with "|" and "¦"?)

2019-05-04 Thread Erik Josefsson
Den 2019-05-04 kl. 18:23, skrev Kenneth Parker: On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 10:37 AM Erik Josefsson  wrote: -> Generic 105-key PC (intl.) -> Other -> Swedish -> Swedish -> The default for the keyboard layout -> No compose key -> Use Control+Alt+B

dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration (Swedish with "|" and "¦"?)

2019-05-04 Thread Erik Josefsson
I've now repeated the same sequence of commands a couple of times to make [SD-cards for the Teres laptop] and finally it looks like I get the same results every time :-) *** make new Teres SD-card with new Teres laptop mkdir /home/debian/teres cd /home/debian/teres wget

Re: How do I trace changes in configuration files?

2019-05-01 Thread Erik Josefsson
Den 2019-05-01 kl. 13:29, skrev Dan Purgert: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Erik Josefsson wrote: I'm trying to learn how to set up my two Teres laptops so that they are identical. [...] I have tried to document my personal preferences before, but I have always ended up

How do I trace changes in configuration files?

2019-05-01 Thread Erik Josefsson
I'm trying to learn how to set up my two Teres laptops so that they are identical. I have now repeated the [first steps] a couple of times so that I feel that I know what I am doing (I don't necessarily understand what I am doing though). I have two identical machines that run from two

iwd and DNS (was: Re: Attempting a VERY minimal install (using --no-install-recommends ;))

2019-04-25 Thread Erik Josefsson
Den 2019-04-25 kl. 07:21, skrev David Wright: The only thing guaranteed by installing the "Depends" is that all the function calls will point at some runnable code rather than just pointing into thin air. Thin air and deep waters is where I'm at. I'm trying to set up the "tui" [text-based

Re: What's the device name of my microSD card?

2019-04-21 Thread Erik Josefsson
On 4/21/19 8:05 PM, David Wright wrote: On Sun 21 Apr 2019 at 18:30:28 (+), Erik Josefsson wrote: On 4/21/19 6:14 PM, Patrick Wiseman wrote: From the command line, 'df' returns free disk space and lists all mounted devices by device name. (One of probably many ways to do it!) On 4/21/19

Re: What's the device name of my microSD card?

2019-04-21 Thread Erik Josefsson
On 4/21/19 6:14 PM, Patrick Wiseman wrote: From the command line, 'df' returns free disk space and lists all mounted devices by device name. (One of probably many ways to do it!) On 4/21/19 6:17 PM, Paul Sutton wrote: if you run lsblk it will list devices connected to the system Here's the

What's the device name of my microSD card?

2019-04-21 Thread Erik Josefsson
I have just assembled a [Teres machine] to learn how to set it up from the instructions on http://box.redpill.dk/ mentioned before on this list. I run into my ignorance already at instruction 2: "Locate device name of your microSD card". It turns out when I use completion with ls

Re: /boot full (of old-dkms)

2019-02-10 Thread Erik Josefsson
Den 2019-02-07 kl. 10:31, skrev john doe: According to (1), you should be fine removing '.old-dkms' files in '/boot'. However, I would do a backup of those files before removing them. 1)https://askubuntu.com/questions/863380/can-i-remove-old-dkms-files Very good answer in the link, and now I

Re: /boot full (of old-dkms)

2019-02-07 Thread Erik Josefsson
Den 2019-02-07 kl. 10:31, skrev john doe: On 2/7/2019 8:14 AM, Erik Josefsson wrote: Hello, I happen to have a couple of quite large old-dkms* files in my /boot directory. Apparently they are not removed by aptitude autoclean (which I use regularly). Can I safely remove those files manually

/boot full (of old-dkms)

2019-02-06 Thread Erik Josefsson
Hello, I happen to have a couple of quite large old-dkms* files in my /boot directory. Apparently they are not removed by aptitude autoclean (which I use regularly). Can I safely remove those files manually with rm? Or should I use another tool or command? Thanks! //Erik *) /boot$