Re: Open-Source environments for Java (was: Re: java)

2005-05-22 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 22 May 2005 08:38 am, Rogério Brito wrote: Do you really need proper Java from Sun/IBM? Unless things have changed drastically in the past year or so, if you're doing ANYTHING with a GUI, yes, you do. Hal

Re: [OT] Debian is ugly -- package for beautification?

2005-05-15 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 15 May 2005 07:31 pm, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: On 2005-05-15, Alex Malinovich penned: On Sat, 2005-05-14 at 10:42 -0600, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: On 2005-05-14, Ron Johnson penned: Prettier??? Is that what's keeping your SO from using Linux? Stereotype much? You'll have

Re: [OT] Debian is ugly -- package for beautification?

2005-05-15 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 15 May 2005 10:02 pm, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: On 2005-05-16, Hal Vaughan penned: On Sunday 15 May 2005 07:31 pm, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: See, I thought about this, especially because Ron said SO instead of some more gender-specific term. Either he's implying something about

Re: spyware

2005-05-10 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 11 May 2005 12:43 am, Brandon Richards wrote: Anyone on this list still running windows might want to check it for spyware. I got about 8-9 hits on mine which is not good. I think it came from the woman who asked about the windows key. She definitely needs to check cuz her

Re: apt-get install mysql

2005-05-05 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 05 May 2005 03:32 pm, Gallagher Timothy-TIMOTHYG wrote: I am trying to apt-get install mysql but I cannot find the software package deb. I get the error: Package mysql is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been

Re: [OT] X-friendly KVM switch?

2005-05-01 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 01 May 2005 09:38 pm, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: I'm looking for an X-friendly PS/2-style KVM switch. Currently, I have a Belkin 4-port Omniview E series, and whenever I switch back to X from another system, the mouse goes all crazy and I have to ctrl+alt+backspace. Anyone have a

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 02 April 2003 10:23 pm, Tom Massey wrote: * John Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-04-03 13:09]: what I'm after is a recommendation from others who might have used something like this to write 5,000 word plus english language documents. I've written a couple of 50,000 word

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-28 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 29 March 2003 12:04 am, Marc Wilson wrote: On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 12:38:27AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 26 March 2003 11:17 pm, Marc Wilson wrote: Why? The *user* has zero business installing the box. Yes, Joe Moron benefits from having GUI tools, because

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-27 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 27 March 2003 07:38 am, Paul Johnson wrote: On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 12:38:27AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: If Henry Ford had your attitude, autos would have never been for more than mechanics. With over five times as many people being killed by autos in the US per year as died

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 26 March 2003 09:23 am, Marc Wilson wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 04:42:02AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 03:07:24PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: Gods, whyinhell would you need X in order to install a distribution? That's just silly. That's why

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 26 March 2003 03:22 pm, Kent West wrote: Hal Vaughan wrote: snip While some people do better with a command line interface, others do much better with an intuitive or graphical interface. snip Some people learn and take in information best when everything is neat

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 26 March 2003 11:17 pm, Marc Wilson wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 06:02:33PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: True. Perhaps it would have been better stated by saying that every distro that wants to cater to Desktop users needs to implement a GUI installer (and many other GUI

Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux

2003-03-14 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 14 March 2003 08:06 pm, Roberto Sanchez wrote: The solution that they decided on (not yet implemented) is to keep the aging machines and purchase one new Dell machine with WinXP/OfficeXP. Their rationale: 1. Unwillingness to give up familiarity of MS Windows interface I explained

Re: KDE vs. Gnome

2003-03-13 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 13 March 2003 09:54 am, GBV wrote: Hi all, I prefer KDE, Gnome seens obsolete, and using gtk lib i´m able to use Gnome appz on KDE with no problems at all, My objective with this message is to gather advantages and disvantages of this two great softwares.. Post your user and

Re: Iptables is driving me nuts (beginner)

2003-03-11 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 07:32 am, Organ Grinder wrote: Hi If you want, give me information about what you do and dont want to allow thro, I'll create the rules for you in a email and explain them. - Regards - Organ Grinder You know, it would help A LOT of us if you could

Re: [Fwd: [LIP] Fw: Boycott Caldera/SCO Products]

2003-03-08 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 08 March 2003 05:55 am, Sharninder wrote: Hi, snip This, therefore, is a call to boycott all Caldera and SCO products. Do not use or recommend the use of: * Caldera OpenLinux * SCO Linux * SCO OpenServer * SCO UnixWare So wouldn't that also mean boycotting OSDN -- sites like

Re: OT Knoppix installation

2003-02-14 Thread Hal Vaughan
There's an HD install script. I think it's in /usr/local/bin. If not, it's in something close to that. I think it's called hd-install. Hal On Friday 14 February 2003 11:17 am, stan wrote: I have a new laptop, and I was planing on istalling Koppix to take advantge of it's _great_ hardware

Re: please help with installation

2003-02-12 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 05:38 am, Hugo Portela wrote: On Wednesday 12 February 2003 12:42 am, Fer'had Erdogan wrote: I'm new to Debian and to Linux. I'm trying to get it going on my a machine but I'm stuck. When it says installing base system - please wait (after configuring

Re: please help with installation

2003-02-11 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 12:42 am, Fer'had Erdogan wrote: I'm new to Debian and to Linux. I'm trying to get it going on my a machine but I'm stuck. When it says installing base system - please wait (after configuring network) it starts writing some files in and gives an error message

Re: Knoppix?

2003-02-10 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 10 February 2003 10:39 pm, Srinivasan Ranganathan wrote: stan wrote: Would it make sense to isntall Knoppix, planing to follow Debian testing? Using that now. Works like a charm. So what did you do? Use the HD install script in Knoppix, edit /etc/apt/sources.list, and do a distro

Re: requesting help on ATI driver install problems

2003-02-09 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 09 February 2003 01:06 pm, Virginia Escuder wrote: Hello, The attached text file is the output from the XF86Config-4 utility. We have the Card called: ATI Tech INc. Rage 128 Pro TF and this one seems not to be in the the list attempted by the installation (in the text). Monitor is a

Re: 2 apt-get questions

2003-02-06 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 06 February 2003 04:09 am, Paul Johnson wrote: On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 01:08:52AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: 1) How can I specify the source site to use to retreive a specific package? (In this case, I added download.kde.org with all the info to point to the KDE 3.1 packages

Re: 2 apt-get questions

2003-02-06 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 06 February 2003 02:06 am, Svein Ove Aas wrote: torsdag 6. februar 2003, 07:08, skrev Hal Vaughan: 1) How can I specify the source site to use to retreive a specific package? (In this case, I added download.kde.org with all the info to point to the KDE 3.1 packages, but apt

Re: 2 apt-get questions

2003-02-06 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 06 February 2003 04:10 am, Paul Johnson wrote: On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 12:28:26AM -0600, Steve Wollkind wrote: interacts with apt-get later (I doubt you can uninstall packages installed this way with apt-get remove...I would imageine apt is simply unaware of them, but someone

Installing Non-Debian Programs w/out Apt -- what effect?

2003-02-06 Thread Hal Vaughan
Now that I finally have a working Debian system, I want to know what will happen if I install non-Debian programs. I know this will vary from case to case, but I'm wondering what the general impact is if I have to install programs that I can't do from apt. For example, Main Concept will be

2 apt-get questions

2003-02-05 Thread Hal Vaughan
I know this should be very simple and easy to find, but I'm having trouble answering these two questions. I've been through the apt-get man page a few times. Since I'm trying to do something on a one-time-only basis, this shouldn't be a config problem -- I'd expect it to be available as a

Re: columbia -- what really happened

2003-02-03 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 03 February 2003 05:25 pm, Peppe wrote: Bush has given Saddam two weeks to prove he had nothing to do with the Shuttle disaster, or he will nuke them back to the Stone Age. This is the freedom that Bush likes so much... But is this only Bush's freedom or is it freedom of the whole

Re: columbia -- what really happened

2003-02-03 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 04 February 2003 01:05 am, Brian Nelson wrote: Hal Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 3) Please, all those in other countries, do not hold Dub-ya up as an example, or an American ideal. Far less than 1/2 of elegible voters voted him into office. Considering only about 40

Which version of X should I use?

2003-01-29 Thread Hal Vaughan
I'm re-installing Debian on a system. I tried this last month and ran into trouble with the video card (ATI Radeon All-In-Wonder). It turns out the version of X in the current stable branch does not support my card well. The previous version supported it and 4.2 supports it. So am I better

Has Anyone Used This Debian Book?

2003-01-25 Thread Hal Vaughan
I just found this book for almost nothing at a local book discount shop: Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 Unleashed by Mario Camou and Aaron Von Cowenberghe Has anyone read or used this book? Several years ago I bought a sister book (same cover, same style, almost same title) for Redhat and it was the

Converting Knoppix to Woody

2003-01-25 Thread Hal Vaughan
I've tried a few different installs to get Debian working on my system. At one point I used the HD install script to install Knoppix on my harddrive. It worked, in basics. There seemed to be a few problems, such as menus in KDE (I would think this would be a problem in Gnome, too). If I

Re: Desktop productivity with Debian GNU/LINUX

2003-01-22 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 11:14 am, you wrote: #include hallo.h * Hal Vaughan [Tue, Jan 21 2003, 11:39:12AM]: comments. You're right. Truth is truth, even if it may hurt. I guess I hit a vein of truth and hurts. Maybe you haven't noticed, but you accuse this person of only whinning

Re: Desktop productivity with Debian GNU/LINUX

2003-01-22 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 01:33 am, Karsten M. Self wrote: on Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 01:52:40AM -0500, Hal Vaughan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tuesday 21 January 2003 12:31 am, Kent West wrote: John Peg Pickard wrote: I would STRONGLY recommend trying Mandrake. While I have not had

Re: Desktop productivity with Debian GNU/LINUX

2003-01-21 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 02:46 am, Eduard Bloch wrote: #include hallo.h * Hal Vaughan [Tue, Jan 21 2003, 01:52:40AM]: Linux, being an OS by geeks for geeks, up until just recently, needs a geek to get it set up properly. Mandrake and others have made vast improvements, but it's

Re: Desktop productivity with Debian GNU/LINUX

2003-01-20 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 12:31 am, Kent West wrote: John Peg Pickard wrote: As I didn't have time to keep playing with LINUX, I gave up. Linux, being an OS by geeks for geeks, up until just recently, needs a geek to get it set up properly. Mandrake and others have made vast improvements,

Re: Radeon Mobility M6/LY problem

2003-01-04 Thread Hal Vaughan
It took me a week to get Debian to work with my ATI Radeon All-In-Wonder whenever I started X. I finally changed the line in /etc/apt/sources.list so it would take the testing debs instead of the stable, did apt-get update, then apt-get x{whatever else they stuck on the name for x-common and

Re: XP oerrating system

2003-01-03 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 03 January 2003 10:54 am, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 05:31:03AM -0800, Beatrice I. Smith wrote: I have the XP home operating system on my PC. Is it possible to install the Debian Linux OS on this pc? Most likely. Linux supports all common hardware, so unless

Programs Won't Run -- Can't find Library

2003-01-02 Thread Hal Vaughan
I used apt-get to install a few games -- most not ably, Enigma, and Mirror Magic. Whenever I try to run either from the console, I get: error while loading shared libraries: libvorbisfile.so.0: cannot open shared ojbect file: No such file or directory I do have /usr/libs/libvorbisfile.so.3,

Anyone Here Know How to Access Demudi?

2003-01-02 Thread Hal Vaughan
I posted this to the DeMuDi mailing lists, but since that list has almost no traffic (and the demudi.org and agnula.org sites are down -- again!), I thought I might actually get a response if I posted it on this list: I added the lines to /etc/apt/sources.list that the Demudi site specifies to

Re: Getting a Higher Version w/out upgrading

2002-12-31 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Tuesday 31 December 2002 12:25 am, Hal Vaughan wrote: I'm still having problems with my ATI card. I know it's worked fine under XFree86 4.2, but Woody has X 4.1. How can I upgrade to X 4.2 w/out upgrading anything else or moving to unstable? Hal Thanks to all who responded. I took

Getting a Higher Version w/out upgrading

2002-12-30 Thread Hal Vaughan
I'm still having problems with my ATI card. I know it's worked fine under XFree86 4.2, but Woody has X 4.1. How can I upgrade to X 4.2 w/out upgrading anything else or moving to unstable? Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

X Win and Mouse

2002-12-29 Thread Hal Vaughan
Two mouse questions: 1) Can someone confirm for me (I'm having strange troubles, again...) that if I have a mouse port (ATX mobo w/ keyboard and mouse ports above each other), that it is configured as /dev/psaux (no serial connection, no USB for the mouse -- just the mouse port next to the

New Install (Video and DeMuDi apt-get problems)

2002-12-27 Thread Hal Vaughan
I cheated on my install (I've posted a few quesitons on it). I booted Knoppix (for those that don't know, Knoppix is a CD-based, Debian-based distro) and used the install script to copy it over to my hard drive. Now X works perfectly with my ATI Radeon All-In-Wonder. For several reasons, I

Re: Problems with Install of Woody from CD (and Network)

2002-12-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
WARNING: Long post (I thought I should include all original references!). On Wednesday 25 December 2002 05:59 am, Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 11:06:21PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: Help or info on any of these issues would be greatly appreciated. I posted most

Re: USB MagicOk

2002-12-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
I've noticed the same problem on a Mandrake system I have. I had times when I had a SanDisk Cruzer (ramdrive) and a USB floppy plugged into the USB ports and there was no way (without doing an ls) to distinguish which was which. The first one plugged in was always /dev/sda, the 2nd /dev/sdb.

Problem with blank screen w/ ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon

2002-12-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
I finally got Debian to install -- the packages that could not install were all in Tasksel's desktop selection. When selecting modules to load, I selected ATI Radeon for DRM, and selected ATI Radeon (I can't remember if it said ATI Radeon or just Radeon) for the video card. I've tried

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