Re: Debian nolonger claims to be the Universal Operating System

2014-10-04 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 10/04/2014 08:44 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 10/4/2014 6:44 AM, Tom Collins tomcollins...@mail.com wrote: and depreciating (as if they have the right to do that) many programs that rely on gtk2 and non-syst__d. peeve It is 'deprecating', not 'depreciating' (an accounting term). /peeve

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-28 Thread Jeff Bauer
On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 18:57:12 +0200 Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote: Change is life. There is nothing static in life. So all the fuss about wearing those grounded, anti-static wrist straps is just a hoax? -- hangout: ##b0rked on irc.freenode.net diversion:

Re: There is no choice

2014-09-20 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 09/20/2014 04:20 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, lee wrote: These few people are also very concerned with preventing other people, particularly users, from doing something which would contribute to what they claim that they are doing. Exactly how are Debian Developers

Re: Choice of init system?

2014-09-19 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 09/19/2014 10:52 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 08:15:57PM -0400, Ed Jabbour wrote: Does (or will) the Jessie install offer a choice of systemd or sys5init? Seems like it will offer a choice. How obvious that there is a choice, I have no idea about, you/we will have to

Re: Errors at login : in which log can I get the message ?

2014-08-31 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 08/31/2014 09:28 AM, Erwan David wrote: I submitted a bug, however I could not find those messages in any log : That's not a systemd bug... why ? ...it's a systemd feature /sarcasm -- hangout: ##b0rked on irc.freenode.net diversion: http://alienjeff.net - visit The Fringe quote: The

Re: End of hypocrisy, beginning of reason

2014-08-06 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 08/05/2014 07:01 PM, AW wrote: And the documentation on the official systemd site is quite terrible, at least so far as I've been able to discover. They must have copy/pasted the initial systemd documentation from the Arch Linux Wiki. When the powers that be over at Arch Linux decided

Re: What is the connection between Microsoft and systemd?

2014-08-04 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 08/03/2014 09:51 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Microsoft wrote systemd. Or at least the design spec. *Everyone* knows that much silly! Here's a web page for ya: html pMicrosoft wrote systemd. Or at least the spec. This is authoritative./p /html The problem with quotes on the Internet is

Re: FWIW: the modularization of systemd

2014-07-27 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 07/27/2014 07:32 PM, green wrote: Minix has some fascinating reliability features... Wouldn't it be ironic if Tanenbaum ultimate wins the debate? ;) Jeff -- hangout: ##b0rked on irc.freenode.net diversion: http://alienjeff.net - visit The Fringe quote: The foundation of authority is based

Re: What do you guys use instead of youtube-dl and minitube?

2014-07-12 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 07/12/2014 07:18 AM, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, The way I get throttled, occasionally the only way I can watch a Youtube video is to download it first and then watch it with smplayer. As far as I can see, Wheezy has no package for either youtube-dl or minitube. What are you guys using to fill

Re: Article on swift, responsive computers

2014-06-22 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 06/15/2014 02:58 PM, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Here's my latest Linux Productivity Magazine, themed The Swift, Responsive Machine: http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/201406/201406.htm Hope you enjoy it. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/

Re: Strange no mail traffic........

2014-06-21 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 06/21/2014 06:31 PM, Charlie wrote: Please CC me just in case: Wondering if the Debian user server is down? No mail in my inbox. I know that the ISP I use is flaky, and they have been blacklisted on many occasions and this might be one of those? So I may have been unsubscribed but my

Disturbing ICEWEASEL behavior

2014-06-19 Thread Jeff Bauer
I'm using Iceweasel 24.6.0 with Wheezy: both religiously updated. The disturbing behavior is my preferred top of the browser toolbar is getting mysteriously, and without an apparent pattern, changed. Preferred: http://alienjeff.net/browser1.png Changed: http://alienjeff.net/browser2.png

Re: Disturbing ICEWEASEL behavior

2014-06-19 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 06/19/2014 08:38 AM, Jeff Bauer wrote: I'm using Iceweasel 24.6.0 with Wheezy... snip I forgot to mention installed addons, which are: Flash and Video Download 1.57 Flashblock 1.5.17 Ghostery 5.3.1 Shortly URL Shortner 1.04 Simple Adblock 1.0.8 Again, TIA, Jeff -- hangout: ##b0rked

Re: Iceweasel and DRM

2014-05-24 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 05/24/2014 08:49 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 14:07 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 13:58 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Being against DRM isn't clownery :(. I made a living from artwork many snip PS: A pirate copy, shared cracked software could be good

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-23 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 05/22/2014 09:14 PM, Steve Litt wrote: On Tue, 20 May 2014 00:17:06 +1200 Richard Hector rich...@walnut.gen.nz wrote: And in the case where the copyright has elapsed? The main point, rather than my additional comment? Richard Few of us will be alive when Jerry's works go out of

Re: Off-topic posting (was Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management)

2014-05-20 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 05/20/2014 08:12 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 5/20/2014 5:05 PM, David Guntner wrote: David Guntner grabbed a keyboard and wrote: Jerry Stuckle grabbed a keyboard and wrote: Then don't add to the bandwidth with your please to stop. As you've been told before - just ignore the thread. And

Re: On what is helpful and what is not [was: Re: Wifi]

2014-03-11 Thread Jeff Bauer
is not a healthy community. feel threatened? Puh-leez! Cry me a river, then grow a pair. Jeff Bauer Winsted CT USA -- hangout: ##b0rked on irc.freenode.net diversion: http://alienjeff.net - visit The Fringe quote: The foundation of authority is based upon the consent of the people. - Thomas

Re: systemd: some more questions

2014-02-14 Thread Jeff Bauer
Please make the voices stop... -- hangout: ##b0rked on irc.freenode.net diversion: http://alienjeff.net - visit The Fringe quote: The foundation of authority is based upon the consent of the people. - Thomas Hooker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

iceweasel upgrade being held back

2014-02-11 Thread Jeff Bauer
On an existing Wheezy installation, performed apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade - but iceweasel is being held back. Tried apt-get -f install thinking it may be a dependency issue, but still being held back. Any thoughts/suggestions? Jeff -- hangout: ##b0rked on irc.freenode.net

Re: iceweasel upgrade being held back

2014-02-11 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 02/11/2014 09:50 AM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 08:51:55AM -0500, Jeff Bauer wrote: On an existing Wheezy installation, performed apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade - but iceweasel is being held back. Tried apt-get -f install thinking it may be a dependency issue, but still

Re: fastest linux distro

2014-01-27 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 01/25/2014 05:17 AM, tom arnall wrote: Currently I am running ubuntu 12.04. I am unhappy with the speed of it. Any info/suggestions will be greatly appreciated. As the automotive mechanic said to the (pick your least favorite make/model car) owner: I'd suggest you jack up the gas cap

Re: Help with command - cp

2014-01-26 Thread Jeff Bauer
On Sun, 1/26/14, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: As I said to Zenaan, it is obviously time for me to bite the bullet of rsync. It seems a significantly better tool for the purpose than cp. Some time ago I was using cp for bulk file copying, but was having some issues with

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

2014-01-20 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 01/20/2014 05:20 AM, Helmut Wollmersdorfer wrote: Am 17.01.2014 um 22:10 schrieb Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net: A computer is able to produce a jazz, rock, classical style song, but not able to touch human emotions. Artificial Intelligence needs Artificial Emotions. It was in

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

2014-01-18 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 01/18/2014 03:12 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 06:00:53PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 14:38 +0100, Denis Witt wrote: Or think about machines in mills, sorting out single grains of poor quality while they are falling down like a waterfall into the

Re: Debian logging - confused

2014-01-15 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 01/15/2014 06:14 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: snip The reason I'm asking is, I can't seem to find where sshd is logging (I'm having someone remote in and help me with something, but can't find any record of him having been there yesterday)... Appreciate any pointers... Pointer:

Re: Question

2014-01-12 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 01/12/2014 04:44 PM, Bob Bernstein wrote: On Sun, 12 Jan 2014, Cameron Murgatroyd wrote: Hi I've recently become a frequent user of debian and I have a question [...] I love the internet. Consider where this post took me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murgatroyd Fabulous stuff. Simply

Re: Number of Procs

2014-01-09 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 01/08/2014 10:41 AM, Hudson Flavio Meneses Lacerda wrote: hudson@musix:~$ free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 435412 22 0 2 74 -/+ buffers/cache:334100 Swap: 1057

Re: unable to install stardict

2014-01-04 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 01/04/2014 01:38 PM, Slavko wrote: Dňa Sat, 04 Jan 2014 17:57:42 +0100 François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr napísal: I tried to install stardict snip The StarDict's development seems to be ended. Five or more years ago when still enamored with Puppy Linux, I discovered

Re: jwm

2013-12-22 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 12/22/2013 08:51 AM, Brian wrote: On Sun 22 Dec 2013 at 02:40:09 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Do I have to edit the whole menu myself or is there a way to use the same menu as other DE's do use? At least for categories like Internet it would be nice to automatically get a menu entry when

Re: Installing Debian 7.3.0

2013-12-21 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 12/21/2013 09:10 AM, Rob Owens wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:29:40PM -0800, Alireza Bahrami wrote: According to Debian website it's enough for installing Debian on a system. There is an old Dell Latitude laptop with specs as below which I chose to for this purpose: Mobile Pentium4:

Re: Package Request

2013-12-07 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 12/07/2013 05:55 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Reading the whole thread is impotent heh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52a31394.3030...@charter.net

Re: Won't complete bootup (gdm3 problem?)

2013-11-29 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 11/29/2013 05:21 PM, Joe wrote: But I came from Gnome2, and LXDE feels more comfortable than Xfce. My first experience with Linux and KDE was with a Knoppix live CD. KDE? Never. Again. I boot to a tty prompt, log in, and type startx which brings up my forever faithful ratpoison WM.

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2013 #1401

2013-11-17 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 11/17/2013 05:08 PM, Neal Murphy wrote: help This has be the least informative request ever seen in a community support forum. SOS would have provided even less information ... -Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: software for (reminder) recommendation

2013-11-13 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 11/12/2013 11:09 PM, lina wrote: Hi, Which package I can be installed which may serve as calender, Just remind me when, where and what I need attend or prepare? Thanks with best regards, Barebones would be cal. Type man cal for details. Regards, Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Why Debian

2013-11-10 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 11/10/2013 05:35 AM, Joel Rees wrote: My own history -- HUGE snip I wandered over here when Fedora came under the influence of the systemd crowd. Same group as was behind unifying /bin and /usr/bin, near as I can tell. My move to Debian was after nearly 5-years of happily using Arch Linux.

Re: Why Debian

2013-11-10 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 11/10/2013 10:40 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 08:17:06AM -0700, thomas aylward wrote: how does a novice begin with debian? Tom How does a novice begin with Linux - Burn, test drive, and used a live CD distribution for a minimum of a month and learn all you can

Re: Why Debian

2013-11-10 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 11/10/2013 12:52 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 2013-11-10 at 12:44 -0500, Jeff Bauer wrote: On 11/10/2013 10:40 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 08:17:06AM -0700, thomas aylward wrote: how does a novice begin with debian? Tom How does a novice begin with Linux

Re: Hosting advice

2013-11-01 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 10/31/2013 06:53 PM, Craig L. wrote: I have a good friend ... Consider https://www.linode.com/ Friends don't run a friend's server on Microsoft; nor do friends set up friend's email with Google. Regards, Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: Screenshots under flash

2013-10-30 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 10/29/2013 12:37 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: I hae been trying to capture on-screen flash pics using ImageMagicks Import command. But on some sites if flash is used to display the pics, all I get is a black screen. I have tried adding -display:0 to the import command but so far no luck.

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-16 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 10/16/2013 12:16 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: Or do you just turn it on and watch your favorite show? Kinda helps to know how to wire together all the various pieces that go with a TV these days- cable connection snip Of course you can call up the local Best Buy

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-15 Thread Jeff Bauer
Apropos: http://bit.ly/1cR4LnG Regards, Jeff -- hangout: ##b0rked on irc.freenode.net diversion: http://alienjeff.net - visit The Fringe quote: The foundation of authority is based upon the consent of the people. - Thomas Hooker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: [OT] Trim your posts. (was ... Re: ...)

2013-10-06 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 10/06/2013 09:06 AM, Joel Rees wrote: On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: . How about taking time to trim your posts instead of allowing them to build into an unreadable mess. Hard to tell where to trim when you're trying to make sense of

Re: Building computer

2013-10-02 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 10/02/2013 04:59 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 10/1/2013 5:13 PM, Catherine Gramze wrote: I have also looked at my memory usage. At this very moment, not running WoW, I have 5.22 gig being used. 4 gig would not be sufficient for me. You would be correct if the number you're looking at

Re: unsuscibe

2013-09-30 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 09/30/2013 05:39 PM, Marc Stephan Nkouly wrote: how do i go out of the list ??? http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#subunsub -- hangout: ##b0rked on irc.freenode.net diversion: http://alienjeff.net - visit The Fringe quote: The foundation of authority is based upon the consent of the

Re: Code Of Conduct (was ... Re: Security?)

2013-09-23 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 09/23/2013 06:47 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: A quick archive search does show that I helped others on this list much more than you did. List participation is not a competitive sport. -- hangout: ##b0rked on irc.freenode.net diversion: http://alienjeff.net - visit The Fringe quote: The

Re: Code Of Conduct

2013-09-23 Thread Jeff Bauer
Does the obvious pronunciation of the acronym for Code of Conduct, CoC, violate the Code of Conduct? ;-) -- hangout: ##b0rked on irc.freenode.net diversion: http://alienjeff.net - visit The Fringe quote: The foundation of authority is based upon the consent of the people. - Thomas Hooker --

Re: dictd

2013-09-13 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 09/09/2013 08:12 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: For me, it is part of my 'standard' desktop install. Same here. Amen! Two reasons - one, my learning process ... Just passing by a word the definition of which I'm not certain can't be blamed on the (hardcover) dictionary is in the other room.

Re: How to get rid of an entry in grub?

2013-08-31 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 08/31/2013 12:23 PM, David Guntner wrote: I've been using it as a sort of backup type of partition, mounted as /backup (until I have time to install backuppc and get it all configured; I've just been doing an rsync to the drive). Since I was backing up *everything*, I suppose there's a

QRZ?

2013-08-24 Thread Jeff Bauer
Just out of curiosity, any Debian amateur radio operators care to ID? 73, Jeff, WN1MB -- hangout: ##b0rked on irc.freenode.net diversion: http://alienjeff.net - visit The Fringe quote: The foundation of authority is based upon the consent of the people. - Thomas Hooker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: What if I choose install text-based mode than X?

2013-08-23 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 08/23/2013 05:51 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I don't know if an IRC client is available irssi for the hardcore; weechat for the fledgling 'leet Jeff -- hangout: ##b0rked on irc.freenode.net diversion: http://alienjeff.net - visit The Fringe quote: The foundation of authority is based upon

Re: your thoughts: special post for Debian birthday

2013-08-13 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 08/13/2013 06:15 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Ana, please would you say what the date of the anniversary is. August 16th heh - my birthdate, too, although I'm considerably older than 20... Happy birthday, Debian. -- hangout: ##b0rked on irc.freenode.net diversion: http://alienjeff.net -

Re: apache logging

2013-08-09 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 08/09/2013 06:45 AM, msl09 wrote: I think the apache team would be better to ask this kind of question. Maybe they have an irc channel. Check #httpd on irc.freenode.net - 350+ logged in right now. Regards, Jeff -- hangout: ##b0rked on irc.freenode.net diversion: http://alienjeff.net -

Re: Backup/Restore software?

2013-07-11 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 07/11/2013 08:42 PM, David Guntner wrote: Is there a Linux backup package that will do pretty much what I described above? I know of no such package, though there very well may be one available. On the other hand, a simple back up script using rsync can do the trick for you. And example

Re: Switching to 64 bit

2013-06-30 Thread Jeff Bauer
200 browser tabs /and/ a gmail account. That figures ... On 06/30/2013 04:22 PM, Kelly Clowers wrote: Can't speak for him of course, but my SeaMonkey is currently using 4.2 GB RES and 5.3 GB VIRT (probably north of 200 tabs)

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-29 Thread Jeff Bauer
My progression/path: JWM/ROX-filer OpenBox/PYpanel straight up ratpoison. Nowadays I'm a hamstrung cripple if forced to use an OS with a DE/WM that's heavily reliant on the dreaded rodent. One can trick out OpenBox pretty seriously if you want to spend the time with configurations, but

cronjob executing at wrong time

2003-12-29 Thread Jeff Bauer
I've got a server running Debian 3.0 r1. A job that is scheduled to execute at 8:01pm is executing at 2:01pm. The cronjob entry runs as non-root user: 1 20 * * 1-5 myjob I have the server synchronized to a time source with ntpdate and I've checked the local timezone. The 'myjob' script itself

apt-get broken after KDE dev download

2003-12-02 Thread Jeff Bauer
I recently installed Knoppix 3.3 on my desktop (2.4.22-xfs). I had no problem using apt-get to grab the latest openoffice, python, xemacs, etc. But after I retrieved some KDE development tools, I'm no longer able to use apt-get. When executing apt-get -f install: Reading Package Lists... Done