Re: feature request for this mailing list

2014-03-10 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 11:01:51AM +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > I know that some MUAs are able to do such kind of filtering > automatically, but I am using a webmail (roundcube) most of the > time, which have less features, but have the same configuration and > display on all compu

Re: feature request for this mailing list

2014-03-10 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 05:23:59PM +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Le 07.03.2014 21:27, Mr Queue a écrit : > >You sent this mail using Thunderbird. > > You are wrong. I sent this mail using rouncube, a webmail. Forgive Mr Queue's mistake, it was an innocent one, because your MUA is

Re: feature request for this mailing list

2014-03-10 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 07:24:36PM +, Tom Furie wrote: > This is the snippet from my .procmailrc for handling Debian mailing > lists. Each list gets sorted into it's own directory. > > :0 > * ^List-id: > * ^List-id: $MAILDIR/.Debian.$MATCH/ The only problem with that is that anyone can send

Re: domain-name option during the installation of Debian

2014-03-10 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 12:05:03AM +, Brian wrote: > A definitive answer from Martin would be much better than any guess. > > Either way it has no bearing on where d-i puts the hostname and domain > name it is provided with. My point was, if d-i puts it in /etc/hosts, as you assert, it should

Re: domain-name option during the installation of Debian

2014-03-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On 08/03/2014 11:47, Brian wrote: > Then you choose > lab.net as the domain name. d-i puts > > 127.0.1.1 debian.lab.net debian > > in /etc/hosts; basically, this is all it does. Why did /etc/hosts not appear in the output of Martin's find command? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-

Re: I mistakenly installed 32 bit Debian. How can I ensure that I'm installing 64 bit?

2014-03-07 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On 06/03/2014 22:07, Patrick Chkoreff wrote: > I'll try to keep the noise down > henceforth, and aim to help others as I develop more expertise. Don't be afraid to ask any questions. Ignore any useless answers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: BIOS Administrator Pasword Workaround

2014-02-27 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On 27/02/2014 09:36, Weaver wrote: > I've forgotten what the original BIOS administrator password was, however, > so don't access to change the boot sequence. If I remove the CMOS battery, > that should do it and I shouldn't lose anything other than the time? Generally yes, that's the case. --

Re: day two question on installing packages on wheezy

2014-02-26 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 08:45:50PM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Aptitude also installs recommended packages by default. And for completeness sake, so does apt-get. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@li

Re: hostname does not match certificate

2014-02-25 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 01:08:38PM -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote: > smtp://t...@tonybaldwin.info:passwordh...@mail.tonybaldwin.info:25 > > Of course, the hostname on the box is not mail.tonybaldwin.info If you delete 'mail.', does it stop complaining? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ..

Re: hostname does not match certificate

2014-02-25 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On 25/02/2014 13:23, Tony Baldwin wrote: > Using mutt this morning, I was informed that my postfix certificate > had expired a few days ago. I made a new one with: > > openssl req -new -outform PEM -out smtpd.cert -newkey rsa:2048 -nodes > -keyout smtpd.key -keyform PEM -days 365 -x509 > > I'm fa

Re: netcat usage.

2014-02-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On 24/02/2014 10:21, Brian wrote: > the OP could consider doing (as root) > >setcap cap_net_bind_service=+ep /usr/bin/ncat > > as a solution to his problem. If they do, they should be aware that would essentially permit any user on the machine to bind to any port; since nc is a redirection s

Re: Where are the local GVFS mounts?

2014-02-23 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On 23/02/2014 05:26, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > There are several good reasons to remove GVFS or at least to replace it > by a dummy package and to prefer to mount manually. This completely fails to help the user solve their problem. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Run a small script at shutdown/reboot

2014-02-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
If you have cron on your machine, I think the easiest thing to do is to use the '@reboot' cron time specification, either in /etc/crontab, a file in /etc/cron.d or root's personal crontab. e.g. @reboot /usr/local/bin/foobar.sh assuming that's where the script is and it's +x -- To UNSUBSCRI

Re: systemd: some questions

2014-02-13 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 03:16:12PM +0100, Hans wrote: > Maybe I missed something? Or is systemd still not working with > encrypted partitions? There was nothing in the doc about it (as far as > I read) I use systemd with encrypted partitions without problems. Can you boot the machine, and at the

Re: images that play nicely with revision control?

2014-02-11 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On 11/02/2014 03:45, Hendrik Boom wrote: > But maybe it stands to reason that anything in raster graphics that > satisfies my requirements would be bulky. You are facing a similar problem to encoding attachments for email: trying to squeeze 8-bits-per-byte data into a 7-bits-per-byte medium, so s

Re: images that play nicely with revision control?

2014-02-10 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Others have mentioned SVG - which, if you can prevent it being compressed, might fit the bill; also PNM for raster images. A more recent but lesser-known is SNG - a text-based format isomorphic with PNG. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubsc

Re: Get list of installed packages

2014-02-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On 06/02/2014 13:06, Tino Sino wrote: > I wonder, what's the golden way to do this and why? It depends on what you're doing it for. If it's for a script, dpkg-query is a better choice, because you can do --showformat and it does not truncate version strings etc. 'dpkg -l' output is really meant fo

Re: Get list of installed packages

2014-02-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On 06/02/2014 13:12, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > (you could use grep -e '^ii') or egrep '^ii', but I think it's not > worth the cpu used). You don't need -e to use anchors in the regex. Whilst -e would use more CPU than a plain grep, the anchor would likely reduce the work done (lines can be matche

Re: Build binary package from debian sources.New format 3.Errors.

2014-02-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On 06/02/2014 00:07, Luis Suzuki wrote: > And does not work.What am I doing wrong? What error message do you get? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52f3

Re: permissions: can you force ACL to be effective over unix perms?

2014-01-14 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 09:41:19AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > But I may be wrong.I don't use ACLs. This normally sets alarm bells off in my head... > I may be wrong here, but how could ACLs override the native > permissions system randomly without opening tons of new opportunities > for discoveri

Re: How to patch files in a package's debian directory

2014-01-14 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Is the package in question maintained in a version control repository (apt-cache showsrc pkgname | grep ^Vcs might help to determine this). If so, you could record the debian-specific changes in a commit and either mail the commit to a bug number or push a copy of your modified checkout somewhere (

Re: Linux' (and other OS's) code patterns present in device drivers, the kernel and userland code ...

2013-12-03 Thread Jonathan Dowland
I'm sorry, I still don't fully understand the point you are trying to make, but I'll try... On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 08:26:04PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > as I mentioned in relation to adler32's hashing implementation, there > are quite a few important libraries heavily using it: > ~ > > h

Re: apparently they somehow have their adler32 cake as part of Debian Linux ...

2013-12-02 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 07:32:52PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > Do you know of any code correlation analysis in Linux, preferably, > based on some measurable metrics? You may get more of a response to this question if you ask again with a more appropriate Subject. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: split(): syntax error near unexpected token `(' ... [OT]

2013-11-28 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 03:13:49PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > Is the point to this a troll. Are you trolling? Because $IFS hasn't been > initialised Please try to be more civilised. If you aren't positively interested in this thread, move on to another. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debia

Re: about MS email retrieve

2013-11-25 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 03:28:00PM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > For future reference, whenever you need to manually install packages > with 'dpkg -i' and it fails due to unfulfilled dependencies you should > follow-up with 'apt-get install -f' (no package). The tool 'gdebi' can be used to inst

Re: Circular initscript dependency prevents use of aptitude on wheezy

2013-11-25 Thread Jonathan Dowland
I recall hitting something like this when I tried mediatomb. I would suggest filing a bug (I didn't/can't find out for this at the moment). More pragmatically I gave up on mediatomb and installed minidlna. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsu

Re: about MS email retrieve

2013-11-25 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 10:56:27AM +0800, lina wrote: > I have JDK and JRE installed, just a bit hesitated to switch to davmail > since I have been using icedove from beginning and it has been really > long already. IIRC you would not need to switch from icedove because davmail is not a MUA. It pr

Re: top posting

2013-11-21 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Kelly, On a related note, something is wrong with your MUA and quoting. Here's a section of the quoting from your last message, with an additional layer of quoting applied, and trimmed to 20 characters (to avoid further wrapping issues): > > > I'm just curious > > so upset about top p > > > mind

Re: testing wants to install systemd

2013-11-20 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 07:11:04PM +, Brian wrote: > In what way does such an extended discussion "perfectly" answer the OP's > question,oespecially when some of the responses imply bad faith on the > part of the OP and a developer of some linux software? Mails such as > those do not reflect we

Re: testing wants to install systemd

2013-11-20 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 03:30:05PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I've got doubts that it would be different on this list, however, we > perhaps should continue at > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic . But it's perfectly on topic. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to deb

Re: testing wants to install systemd

2013-11-20 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Installing systemd will not change your init system (unless you actively choose to do so). GNOME now depends on some of the systemd components but does not require you to have systemd as your init system. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubs

Re: message formatting [was Wheezy/XFCE/VNC}

2013-11-19 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 05:07:52PM +, Brad Rogers wrote: > I think Jonathan was directing his comments to Emilio, not you. It's > difficult to know for sure as he didn't use a name, or quote some of the > offending message. That's right. My mailer did set in-reply-to correctly, and the messa

Re: Wheezy/XFCE: remote desktop service difficulties with VNC server

2013-11-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Hi, I don't know what happened to quoting in your message but it was nigh-on unreadable. It might be worth a look at your mailer settings. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: htt

Re: Debian/Ubuntu Package Developing with Docker, Continued

2013-11-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Thanks for sharing. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131118095648.ga1...@bryant.redmars.org

Re: Automatic installs

2013-11-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
I am in a similar situation after upgrading some gnome components to their packages in experimental. the "gnome" (and related) metapackages are still at their sid versions, they have versioned dependencies and I think therefore have been removed. In my case I wait until the metapackages are updated

Re: GMail like mail workflow

2013-11-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:25:26AM +0100, Florian Lindner wrote: > - Instead of deleting messages for archiving, move them to some Archiv > folder. Since archiving is a very frequent action this involves much > more cliks in the MUA than just deleting. Or some configuration change > in the client.

Re: [OT?] What's wrong with my exim4 configuration?

2013-11-14 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:45:56AM +0200, Itay wrote: > Newbie's question: is it a problem? Is there a risk? Not really, but some people may prefer that their internal host names and suchlike are not exposed to the outside world. I first noticed it when trying to configure my MUA to recognise my o

Re: [OT?] What's wrong with my exim4 configuration?

2013-11-14 Thread Jonathan Dowland
> On 12 Nov 2013, at 22:06, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > This name won't appear on From: lines of outgoing messages if > rewriting > is enabled. It does leak out in message-Id strings however. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe"

Re: [OT?] What's wrong with my exim4 configuration?

2013-11-11 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:33:46PM +0200, Itay wrote: > I tried several times, including re-issuing 'exim4 -qff'. > It hangs and I have to kill it. > The output is appended below. OK I wouldn't worry about the hanging from this output. I suspect it's just the SMTP client and/or server keeping the

Re: [OT?] What's wrong with my exim4 configuration?

2013-11-10 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 09:20:18AM +0200, Itay wrote: > 3) The last command I isssued: > # echo This is a test message. | exim -v -i root > is still hanging. > This was the behavior I was seeing yesterday as well. Try killing it and re-issuing it since you've made the other changes. It looks like

Re: No space left on device (28) but device is NOT full!

2013-11-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 11:43:09AM -0500, Neal Murphy wrote: > 3. 'mkreiserfs /dev/sdb1' # to avoid the whole issue of inodes Before opting for ReiserFS (version 3), users would be advised to do some reading on the current level of support it attracts in the kernel, and possibly seek out some fil

Re: No space left on device (28) but device is NOT full!

2013-11-05 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 07:15:19PM +0400, Reco wrote: > On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 02:29:10PM +0000, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 03:13:10PM +0400, Reco wrote: > > > find . -type f -name 'popularity-*' -print0 | xargs -0rn 20 rm -f > > >

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-05 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 03:10:31PM +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > As simple Debian users, we indeed do not mind about portability > stuff. But for Debian's maintainers, using systemd as default means > that they'll have to maintain other systems for Debian Hurd and > Debian KFreeBSD.

Re: No space left on device (28) but device is NOT full!

2013-11-05 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 03:13:10PM +0400, Reco wrote: > find . -type f -name 'popularity-*' -print0 | xargs -0rn 20 rm -f I idly wonder (don't know) to what extend find might parallelize the unlinks with -delete. A cursory scan of the semantics would suggest it could potentially do so: it's not cl

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-05 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 04:16:39PM +, Tom H wrote: > On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Marko Randjelovic wrote: > > Decisions like changing such an essential part of OS should not be made > > in rush. > > It's not being done in a rush. This has been discussed at length on > debian-devel a numbe

Re: No space left on device (28) but device is NOT full!

2013-11-05 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 05:28:16AM +0100, Tazman Deville wrote: > find . -name 'popularity-*' | xargs rm -rf Sorry, opportunity for a bit of golf. Find has a built-in for deleting files: > find . -type f -name 'popularity-*' -delete I'd also be rather wary of invoking rm -rf with the results of

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: > Will this command sequence generally work when the "from" box has > Squeeze and the "to" box has Wheezy? Specifically, will the packages > installed in the Wheezy box having the same names as the ones in the > Squeeze box be the Wheezy v

Re: spam when I reply to debian mailing list : "Festival Shutdown : Re: ...."

2013-11-04 Thread Jonathan Dowland
You are not the only one with this problem. If it frustrates you, please bring it to the listmasters attention. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2013110

Re: Bash Scripting Question

2013-11-04 Thread Jonathan Dowland
The tool 'yes' can be used to write an infinite stream of strings (the default being 'y') to standard output, so if your program needed only a sequence of a fixed string such as 'y', you could do > yes | your-program or > yes "some-other-string" | your-program But if your program is not readin

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-03 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 10:23:02AM +0100, Marko Randjelovic wrote: > I find shell scripts the most efficient way to automate system adin > tasks. It could be because I am a programmer, but at least init > scripts are already provided, and small modifications should not be a > problem even for non-p

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-03 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 02:06:06AM +0400, Reco wrote: > Linux is way ahead of AIX, FreeBSD and HP-UX in this regard even if > using good ol' sysvinit. So, Lennart fixed what wasn't broken in the > first place. If that were so, why are people adopting it? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-

Re: Replacing failed drive in software RAID

2013-11-01 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 01:47:37PM +0100, Veljko wrote: > Isn't that to inform the OS of partition table changes? In this case, > partition table stays the same. It has changed: prior to sgdisk, sda has no partitions and sda1, sda2 etc. do not exist. After you clone the table from sdb, they do. M

Re: Replacing failed drive in software RAID

2013-11-01 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 03:41:18PM +0100, Veljko wrote: > # sgdisk --backup=table /dev/sdb > # sgdisk --load-backup=table /dev/sda > # sgdisk -G /dev/sda I'm not familiar wiht sgdisk but you may need to call "partprobe" after these stages and before these ones… > # mdadm --manage /dev/md0 --add /

Re: alien 32/64 bits

2013-10-31 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 07:28:04PM +0100, François Patte wrote: > Bonjour, > > Is there a way to build a debian package on an amd64 from a rpm package > built for a 32bits platform. If the package does not have complex preinst/postinst scripts (or their RPM equivalents), the following method may

Re: Choosing default OS in multi boot system

2013-10-30 Thread Jonathan Dowland
I've wondered about this or something similar. Has anyone tried having each OS install their grub to their partition, rather than the MBR — and then having a separate grub configuration that installs onto the MBR which lets you chain-load each of the partitions (or LVs or whatever?) My thinking is

Re: Help -- GPG error

2013-10-29 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Please do not send HTML-only to this list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131029214953.gb12...@bryant.redmars.org

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-10-29 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 04:55:44PM -0400, John wrote: > Could someone who has been following the giant fuss on -devel over > init systems explain why there's such a sense of dire urgency? I think it's largely driven by frustration over how bipartisan the discussion is and how long it has been goin

Re: hardware migration

2013-10-25 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 08:19:51AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > A compromise could be 'label', which is both guaranteed persistent as > well as human readable. It's a good idea to put the (a) hostname (or similar) in labels (and LVM VG names) to help avoid clashes if/when you put HDDs from two systems

Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor

2013-10-25 Thread Jonathan Dowland
That's not a consideration for the children, surely? They aren't the ones doing the installing… -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131025091536.ge23...@

Re: How to ditch nouveau driver with nVidia card

2013-10-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 12:50:37PM -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: > Before getting into some of the suggestions let me first make sure I'm > even running the nouveau driver. Looking a little closer at aptitude > output, it could be indicating that I'm not actually running the xorg > driver but using n

Re: Blacklisting threads - SOLVED

2013-10-23 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 06:20:37PM +0400, Dmitrii Kashin wrote: > Lisi, I'm afraid it was *not* a suggestion, but a very bad joke. I was entirely serious actually. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@list

Re: Dying hard drive?

2013-10-23 Thread Jonathan Dowland
> On 23 Oct 2013, at 00:52, Celejar wrote: > > rdiff-backup is buggy (at least, it has at least one serious reported > bug, known for years but not even acknowledged by upstream), untouched > for years and apparently abandoned: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/10/msg00182.html Yep

Re: Dying hard drive?

2013-10-22 Thread Jonathan Dowland
is rsnapshot doing something different to usual: have you got a lot more files in your backup? is it now having to delete old snapshots, whereas before it hadn't hit some critical threshold? I found it to scale very poorly when I was using it. rdiff-backup is almost a drop-in replacement and doesn'

Re: upgrade to wheezy

2013-10-22 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:19:43PM +0200, mess-mate wrote: > Hi, it's time to do an upgrade from my sqeeze to wheezy. > Is there any particularity i have to observe ? > Thanks in advance It's recommended you read the release notes for Wheezy: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes --

Re: How to format the command output like MySQL output

2013-10-22 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 11:07:44AM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > And how is busybox going to solve the op's problem? The odds are he has it on the machine already, or can have it; if he doesn't have it, it can replace some things he does (thus saving space and memory); it can be compiled to have b

Re: Blacklisting threads

2013-10-22 Thread Jonathan Dowland
supported in Konsole) and a larger range of greyscales, to use a separate crm114 configuration to score mailing list mail on an "interestingness" basis (I use crm114 for spam filtering but do not want to re-use those buckets for two purposes) and to auto-colour based on the corresponding "

Re: Blacklisting threads

2013-10-22 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:07:12PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > What if she wants to read other threads of one of the participants of > the particular thread or any other unwanted thread? She'll still see messages in other threads from other participants, including context in quotes. If it's suffi

Re: Blacklisting threads

2013-10-21 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 03:11:03PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > That tedious. It was/is getting broken all the time, thus getting > tangled up with everything else. It is beginning to be a real > nuisance. Blacklist all the recent participants. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@

Re: How to format the command output like MySQL output

2013-10-21 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 08:54:25PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Check out perl formats. Great suggestion, it's a shame the user has (since) ruled out Perl. Hardly anyone seems to discuss perl formats anymore ☺ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "un

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-19 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Since there's only two of you participating in this (OT) sub thread now, perhaps you could take it off list? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e725e729-171

Re: Oddity in synaptic 0.75.13 (Wheezy)

2013-10-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Good news: this bug was fixed for sid on Aug 23 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=666869 It's actually in "software-properties-gtk", which is started by synaptic when you click on "Settings → Repositories" Checking whether this is something that could be considered for backporting

Re: Oddity in synaptic 0.75.13 (Wheezy)

2013-10-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=691681 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131018083641.ga20...@bryant.redmars.org

Re: endianness (was Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude))

2013-10-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
> On 18 Oct 2013, at 05:51, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > > What's wrong with htonl and other similar functions/macroes? They are pretty good when they fit what you want to do, but there are holes: eg convert big endian source to host layout. Note that the glibc implementation uses cpp conditionals

Re: endianness (was Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude))

2013-10-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
> On 17 Oct 2013, at 17:47, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > I do not understand why? > In both cases with "decent compilers" it is solved at compile-time, so what > is the problem with preprocessor here? In case BIG_ENDIAN is not defined but > should be? For the reason I wrote: > ot

Re: dropbox alternative

2013-10-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 09:55:25AM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > No, it prevents losing data though. It will make two copies and have > you merge them. It seems to do this superfluously, sometimes, too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "un

endianness (was Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude))

2013-10-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 05:29:33PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Speaking about endianness, it really is hard to manage: > > void myfunction( ... ) > { > #ifdef BIG_ENDIAN > move_bytes_in_a_specific_order > #else > move_bytes_in_the_other_specific_order > #endif > } Bad way to man

Re: gnome depends on adblock-plus

2013-10-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
This has been fixed in stable and is pending in sid, I believe. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131017155522.ga11...@bryant.redmars.org

Re: dhcpclient overwrites /etc/resolv.conf

2013-10-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:12:55AM +, Bonno Bloksma wrote: > This looks the way to go but... The sample shows just one entry, so > how do I add multiple entries. Multiple lines, single line space > separated values, comma separated values? The man page does not > explain either nor does Google

Re: gnome depends on adblock-plus

2013-10-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
cause of the problems you've highlighted here, and I explain in my other post. -- Jonathan Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131017084918.gb4...@bryant.redmars.org

Re: gnome depends on adblock-plus

2013-10-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 03:03:19AM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > gnome depends on xul-ext-adblock-plus. … > So, I would like to know if someone knows why this dependency > exists, instead of a recommendation or suggestion. I was curious so I investigated. The dependency was added i

Re: dhcpclient overwrites /etc/resolv.conf

2013-10-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 01:52:10PM +, Bonno Bloksma wrote: > My uplink uses DHCP to give me my ip-number etc. It also gives me the > dns server for the uplink but... I run my own dns servers(s) for our > local domain. > I want the /etc/resov.conf file to stay as it is and not be > overwritten b

Re: apt-get upgrade (security packages)

2013-10-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
When you patch a package locally, I'd recommend updating the package version at the same time by eg adding or incrementing an epoch (in 1:2.3-4, the epoch is the 1) This will mean your local package version will be higher than any package update to the stable repositories. Note however it woul

Re: Oops - copied iso image to wrong device

2013-10-14 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 10:52:33PM +0100, Brian wrote: > The dd command was recommended on the off-chance GRUB might be put on > the drive now or in the future; it will refuse to install. I see, I didn't know that, thank you. Apparently grub-setup is the bit that complains, and it can be made to

Re: Oops - copied iso image to wrong device

2013-10-13 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 11:00:50AM +0100, Brian wrote: > The data on the drive are gone. Do > >dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb count=1 > > to remove all traces of the iso you put on it and start from scratch. …why? As things currently stand, the user could possibly reconstruct the partition

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-11 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 10:06:24PM +0100, Brian wrote: > "are you root?" is the clue. If you are able to be root , you are a > sysadmin. We fundamentally disagree on that point. > Of course, we all know a sysadmin role can only be filled by a very > special person. If you say so. I've never f

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-11 Thread Jonathan Dowland
at least. -- Jonathan Dowlandjmtd.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131011133346.GA29455@debian

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-11 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 08:03:03PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > As someone said, if nobody else admins your box for you, you are the > sysadmin for your box. It does not belittle professional sysadmins to > acknowledge that you are doing the job any more than it belittles > professional woodworkers to

Re: apt-get vs. aptitude

2013-10-11 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 02:43:34PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Guys, I must disagree with that. It would mean that any linux distro > is hard to maintain, and that's wrong. Plus, sysadmin have a lot > more knowledge than simple users and power users. Yes, I think it sells real sy

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 01:10:15PM +, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > On Qua, 09 Out 2013, berenger.morel wrote: > >So, I think I'll go for mutt > > No one mentioned the simplest way: mutt now supports sending via > smtp directly: > http://dev.mutt.org/trac/wiki/MuttFaq/Sendmail#HowdoIconfigure

Re: loop back iptables

2013-10-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 04:24:18AM -0400, shawn wilson wrote: > This will do nothing unless you have a default DROP policy …which generally speaking I would advise against. If you have a default ACCEPT policy and your last rule is a DROP, you are resilient against accidentally issuing "iptables -F

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
I recommend exim. I've used it for >10 years. It is heavy-weight for desktops/laptops, but the Debian packaging around it makes such configuration situations a lot simpler. (The same packaging gets in the way of running exim on a server, IMHO). In the past I've tried simple MTAs designed for deskt

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 01:02:09PM +0300, D.E. Bil wrote: > On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 03:13:27AM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > What would you use as a MTA on a Debian system made for an end-user? > > mutt > fetchmail > procmail Not MTAs… I guess you're going one further and sugges

Re: apt-get vs. aptitude

2013-10-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
These days, it's apt-get: aptitude's resolver has some awkward bugs that haven't been stamped on yet. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131008145128.GB

Re: Getting Postfix to sort spam into different folders

2013-10-02 Thread Jonathan Dowland
I do this using procmail on my server, with a .procmailrc in each user's folder. I do use virtual accounts but there's at least one UNIX account behind each virtual one (so it's many virtual:one UNIX mapping), so if you don't have real UNIX accounts at the bottom this won't work. Also procmail is h

Re: Building computer

2013-10-02 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 03:59:15AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > This will really throw you for a loop. Open a shell window and execute > > ~$ sudo echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches She'll probably get 'Permission denied', you need elevated permissions for the writing process, which in this case

Re: Building computer

2013-09-27 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 09:30:57AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Building older and current kernels with configurations that are close to > Debian, Ubuntu or Arch Linux defaults takes around 90 minutes (in the > past perhaps a little bit less and today perhaps around 120 minutes, I > need to check t

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Ah, a fellow vim user! On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 07:54:30PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > I have my ~/.muttrc as followqs: > > set editor="vim +':set textwidth=72'" Does vi(m) correctly detect the filetype of emails as 'mail'? I added the following to ~/.vimrc au BufRead,BufNewFile /tmp/mut

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 07:01:55PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > I recently got back from holiday. I have found catching up on the list > really > difficult because so many people now break threads and don't trim quotes, or, > even worse, do not quote at all. Read (and/or help) those who make doi

Re: ZFS, longterm archive of data and Debian

2013-09-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland
It's not clear to me what problem you are trying to solve and why ZFS would be a good solution for it. The elephant in the room, with regards your use case, is backups, IMHO. That said: On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 11:07:57PM -0400, Nick Lidakis wrote: > With one user reading one FLAC file at a time f

Re: Locked out of fluxbox, or any other desktop environment too.

2013-05-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 10:29:28AM +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote: > > It makes no difference what DE I'm running, before trying to log into > fluxbox, I still get thrown out and unable to log into fluxbox > successfully. But, I can do it as my new user added today, so its something > to do with the ol

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