hosts by name
- can ping hosts by IP
- can lookup hosts using nslookup
- can see sites with mozilla if I use the IP address
- CANNOT see sites by name with mozilla.
I'm baffled.
Does /etc/resolv.conf look the same for both kernels?
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Daniel McBrearty wrote:
Hi
Have an odd problem that I can't work out.
I I recently took out my wireless networking (driver was ndiswrapper
for a dlink card) and replaced it with a normal wired connection via
eth0. Since then, I can ping any website as a normal user, but mozilla
waits
olivier henley wrote:
Hi to all,
I have a small problem with my display under Debian (woody). My X
server is 4.1, but as I installed from vanilla I am still running on a
2.2 kernel. The computer is an old laptop with a trident 9385 chipset
(2mb of ram). Everything goes fine except when I
the
problems with X.
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erver-xfree86".
(Please do not reply privately; keep the discussion on-list so that
others may add their input and/or others may benefit from the exchange,
such as via the mail list archives months from now.)
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If the SVGA driver works, you may just need to live with that, or get a
different video card, or choose the correct driver for the video card
in this "new" box.
(PS: Also, no need to CC: me; I already read the list; don't need two
copies of the message. Thanks!)
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Olivier Laurent wrote:
Hi everybody,
I'm tring to configure gdm to show faces in the face browser.
After trying to figure out why there are no faces, I discovered that
gdm does not like zsh in /etc/passwd
For example:
toto:x:1004:1004:,,,:/home/toto:/bin/zsh
Ionut Georgescu wrote:
On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 06:54:52AM -, shatam bhattacharya wrote:
At present I am having a couple of problems.
And now to the [first problem] snip
PS With respect to [the second problem], I can only second Jonathan's advice
snip
And I
]:~$ alsamixer
alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
Please post the output of lspci and uname -a and groups.
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Landy Bible wrote:
Hello, I'm trying to get a Creative Labs CT4810 sound card to work.
I'm a windows user most of the time, and don't have a clue what do to.
I'm running Sarge, with kde installed.
Add yourself to the audio group:
# adduser landy audio
This may be all that's needed,
passwords to your associates to whom you've delegated
administrative tasks. Just use sudo.
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shatam bhattacharya wrote:
Also, is 192.168.1.1 a real DNS server? I suspect that is pointing to
your router, and I suspect it should be pointing to your ISP's DNS
server(s). That might be configurable in your router's web interface, or
you can just change your resolv.conf file for a quick
Amira Youssef wrote:
Hello,
After I've installed Sarge thru net for the fist time. X didn't start
so I installed the XFREE86 V4 pkg I used to install over woody and
configure it same way but whenever it try to start x it give the
following msg: apm: BIOS not found!
I've checked
shatam bhattacharya wrote:
deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free
0% [Connecting to security.debian.org (1.0.0.0)]
My DSL router has a web based configuration. The DNS tab has the
following options --
1) Use User Discovered DNS server Only
2) Use Auto
shatam bhattacharya wrote:
# The first network card - this entry was created during the Debian
installationauto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
If the auto eth0 really is not on its own line, it needs to be.
Otherwise, that looks okay.
What's in your /etc/resolv.conf file?
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shatam bhattacharya wrote:
On Fri, 20 May 2005 Kent West wrote :
shatam bhattacharya wrote:
# The first network card - this entry was created during the Debian
installationauto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
If the auto eth0 really is not on its own line, it needs
Jacobo221 wrote:
I like customizing my PC. In my console I use the following PS1 var:
PS1='\n\033[34;1m[\w]\033[0;34m\$ '
PS1=$PS1'\033[s\033[1;1f\033[37;47;1m\033[K Terminal:
\033[2m\l\033[1m\033[;19fJobs: \033[2m\j\033[1m\033[;29fUser:
\033[2m\u\033[1m\033[;45fHost:
shatam bhattacharya wrote:
2) I still cant apt-get update (the same problem i.e. (1.0.0.0)
hang persists.)
the sources.list is
deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
Notice mine does not have a slash after .org. Perhaps it'll make a
difference?
deb http://security.debian.org
shatam bhattacharya wrote:
On Thu, 19 May 2005 Kent West wrote :
shatam bhattacharya wrote:
2) I still cant apt-get update (the same problem i.e. (1.0.0.0)
hang persists.)
the sources.list is
deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
Notice mine does not have a slash
shatam bhattacharya wrote:
Hello List,
I wanted to upgrade from woody to sarge by APT. I am
facing a peculiar problem after apt-get dist-upgrade, the apt never
gets connected. It says [0%] Connecting to http.us.debian.org(1.0.0.0)
and then sort of hangs, I have even tried with
Lee Braiden wrote:
On Tuesday 17 May 2005 09:10, j smith wrote:
in this new release, i have to type mount /dev/hda5
/dos each time i start Debian. mount /dos does not
work, error message says Mount: /dos is not a block
device, though fstab is properly configed, see
attachment
Nope,
shatam bhattacharya wrote:
Please post the current contents of /etc/apt/sources.list.
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free
Try putting a slash after debian, as in:
deb
Adam Funk wrote:
Marty wrote:
You should see one or more devices
listed, depending on how many other sounds devices are in your system.
You can cat .wav files into a device file as a test, but beware that
the output may be highly distorted so turn down your volume control.
$ cat
Adam Funk wrote:
Adam Funk wrote:
I've just installed Debian testing on a new computer but I can't get the
sound to work. I think the problem is that /dev/dsp doesn't exist,
although when I did modprobe snd-intel8x0 it created /dev/snd/controlC0
and /dev/snd/timer.
I think the
shatam bhattacharya wrote:
I think its just a problem with apt configuration. plz have a look.
Since you otherwise have net capability, I agree.
You can surf on the net and ping sites from the console in Debian
or in XP?
I can surf the net on Debian.
What's the result of ping
shatam bhattacharya wrote:
One more thing there was a directory called apt.conf.d in /etc/apt.
This had a file called 70debconf. when I removed the file, the
apt-get update started working!!!.
I suspect you'll want that file. Here's what mine looks like:
enjae[westk]:/etc/apt/apt.conf.d
and downloading the latest goodies, etc).
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the most popular packages
on it), and the dependency issues will be handled automagically.
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Adam Funk wrote:
Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc.: Unknown device 814e
It's been my experience that if a device is an Unkown device, it
doesn't work for me. I usually try upgrading to a newer kernel, or the
latest Sid update, which sometimes works for me.
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to see what chipset is being used by your NICs; then run
modconf to install the driver appropriate for that chipset. (Or
modprobe to install the driver for just this session.)
Or you can install discover to help do the automagic hardware probing.
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shatam bhattacharya wrote:
I am having trouble in configuring X on my system. I am using the
following configuration
-Intel 82845 GL motherboard
uname -r says
2.2.20-idepci
XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510)
Release
shatam bhattacharya wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2005 Kent West wrote :
shatam bhattacharya wrote:
I am having trouble in configuring X on my system.
I highly recommend you upgrade to Testing or Sid
As advised by you I am currently downloading sarge ISO images.
If you're on a network
shatam bhattacharya wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2005 Kent West wrote :
shatam bhattacharya wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2005 Kent West wrote :
I highly recommend you upgrade to Testing or Sid
As advised by you I am currently downloading sarge ISO images.
If you're on a network, don't
Adam Hardy wrote:
On 13/05/05 10:02 Lars Schimmer wrote:
unsubscribe
Here's how to unsubscribe:
First, ask your Internet Provider to mail you an Unsubscribing Kit.
Then follow these directions.
The kit will most likely be the standard no-fault type. Depending on
requirements, System A
David R. Litwin wrote:
# boinc_4.19_i686-pc-linux-gnu -attach_project
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu b151599a701963ef98f16ac804e1b9ee
bash: boinc_4.19_i686-pc-linux-gnu: command not found
The current directory is not in the default PATH environment variable
(for security reasons). To run the
Charles Li wrote:
On one of my pc, I have debian and winXP dual boot,
with XP on the hda1.
I would like to remove debian, can I just delete the
partition?
Yes, but that will leave you with a blank partition. You might as well
leave Debian on it for future/emergency use.
Unless of course you
David R. Litwin wrote:
You will not BELIEVE how stupid I truly am.
I had the username and password mixed up.
I'm floored. I'm sorry to put you all through so much hassle. I'm embarrassed.
Feel free to flay me.
No need to worry; we've all made mistakes.
For example, I made one in 1973. So
David R. Litwin wrote:
Essentially, I am asking how one installs in Debian.
Firstly, I would like to get KDE 3.4. I am currently using KDE 3.3. Is
there a way to upgrade without having to do a full installation? Or,
can I run apt-get install kde or some thing like that?
There are basically
[KS] wrote:
Hi,
I can't get gaim connect to yahoo today. It was working fine till
yesterday. There has been no change on my machine since the last time I
logged in to yahoo with gaim last night.
ii gaim 1.2.1-1multi-protocol instant
messaging client
Linux localhost
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
Kent West wrote:
[KS] wrote:
I can't get gaim connect to yahoo today. It was working fine till
yesterday. There has been no change on my machine since the last time I
logged in to yahoo with gaim last night.
ii gaim 1.2.1-1multi
David R. Litwin wrote:
The following is going to sound vague.
The sound on my Sarge 2.6 kernel KDE 3.3 will not work. I'm in the
group audio, so that isn't the answer. With kernel 2.4, I had sound.
Now, not.
What can I check or do to get my sound back?
I have a Creative Sound Blaster PCI
David R. Litwin wrote:
Alright. I'd really like to get my Internet working so, please, help me.
I know nothing about pppoe, so don't rely too heavily on me.
I have given up on getting Debian to connect me to the internet; so, I
downloaded the software from Sympatico, my ISP (
Kevin wrote:
OldWorld PowerPC (604e). I recently installed Woody on such a
machine using the 3.0r4 binary CDs for PowerPC and the resulting system
seems to work fine, but I didn't realize how old the software was in
Woody and would like to upgrade to Sarge
My /etc/apt/sources.list file reads:
Kent West wrote:
What I would do is return the sources.list file to its original form,
and run aptitide update. If the system updates properly, go back into
sources.list and comment all but one line. Then change that one line so
that instead of stable it reads sarge,
And you'll have to change
David Baron wrote:
Using import. If I do the whole screen, no mouse selection, it is perfect.
If I use import file.gif which has one select an area, the image is off.
Opened in a browzer, it looks OK but in Kshow, it is displaced in a larger
area and reading this image blows up PART of the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am having problems logging into my gnome desktop environment as my
regular users. I can however log into it as root. When I attempt to
log in as a regular user I get a message which states the
following,Xsession warning: unalbe to write to /tmp;xsession may exit
?
If not, try running modconf and see if you can find a module for your
audigy.
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Emmanuele BARBARO wrote:
Have you received my e-mail? Any news?
You got one reply: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/05/msg01131.html
You'd probably get better results if you'd separate the two problems
into two separate threads, and use a meaningful subject line on each
(people tend
David R. Litwin wrote:
Let me preface this by saying: Yes, I know the security threats
involved in logging in as the root; some times, however, I wish to do
so. Thank you for understanding.
Now then, I use KDM to login. With this, it is necessary to choose
login through console, then login
.)
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KDE or Gnome for that matter? Basically, how do I get a
graphical desktop environment to work?
Try starting X with the command startx at the prompt.
If that works, try apt-get install kdm.
If the startx command does not work, try apt-get install
x-window-system kdm.
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, so that migration to pure Debian is a no-brainer.
http://kanotix.org/
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the
correct CD at the correct time.
I also suspect you're using Woody. Yuck! (Well, fine for a server, but
yuck for a workstation.) Woody is quite ancient. If you're looking for
a modern desktop, I suspect you'll find Testing/Sarge (or even
Unstable/Sid) more to your liking.
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Lee Braiden wrote:
On Sunday 08 May 2005 17:55, Peter Klauer wrote:
I have tried many ways to configure for a connection to my Comcast
Broadband service to no avail.
ipconfig keeps giving me this:
dummy0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00
...
This means nothing to me. Any
On Sat, 07 May 2005 08:45:00 -0700
Peter Klauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have just installed Debian GNU/Linux i386 Woody, Version 3.0r5.
It boots to the Gnome Desktop Manager where my keyboard is recognized
and I can log in. That puts me to the Gnome 1.4 desktop GUI where my
mouse is not
David Dorward wrote:
I'd also like to be able to pick a part of the image to focus on, e.g.
if the image is a portrait of a person I could pick their face.
Idealy I'l like a piece of software which would present me with the
images one at a time and let me draw a bounding box (with a fixed
ratio I
on the web
that offers web hosting; I believe there are even some free posting
sites (well, free, if you don't count the advertisements and them
selling your contact info, etc).
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Paul Scott wrote:
With Thunderbird 1.0.2-2 on my sid system email works fine but many
menu items including Help/About, Edit/Preferences, trying to open an
attachment all give me a message box with some variation of: XML
parsing error: not well-formed
The errors are reported to be in files
version
didn't do anything.
Thanks for any help,
Vjekoslav
Does this happen for a new user on one of the machine (not an existing
user)? If so, look into your home's OO.o directories.
Is /var on your read-only root? Is /tmp?
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Marc Shapiro wrote:
Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What does your /etc/network/interfaces look like?
On the gateway box (mareschal -- 192.168.0.1):
/etc/network/interfaces:
# Used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8). See the interfaces(5)
manpage or
# /usr/share/doc/netbase/examples for more
Csanyi Pal wrote:
Hello!
Why can I not to open the URL: http://www.claraocr.org in any browser?
Maybe the project is death?
It's also not pingable. Nor does host find it. I'd say it's a dead
project.
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Deboo Geek wrote:
On 4/30/05, Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Deboo Geek wrote:
My mouse works fine under X, as a 2 button mouse. It has a trackball
which doesn't work, whichever mouse I select. IT is a cheap mouse. I
have tried using many protocols to make it work under gpm
Deboo Geek wrote:
On 5/1/05, s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Incoming from Deboo Geek:
Yes, I'm doing it on the usual console, not under X.
Here's the file content of gpm.conf:
device=ttyS0
Mine says /dev/ttyS0
responsiveness=
repeat_type=ms3
type=msc
append=''
sample_rate=
Marc Shapiro wrote:
Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marc Shapiro wrote:
00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys Network
Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 model NC100 (rev 11)
Subsystem: Linksys: Unknown device 0570
It's been my experience that whenever a device shows
up
Marc Shapiro wrote:
Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can you ping localhost?
Can you ping your gateway, by address? by name?
Can anyone point me to some way to get either my LAN
or my modem working?
See questions above.
What does your /etc/network/interfaces look like?
What's the result
Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
I'm looking for an X-friendly PS/2-style KVM switch. Currently, I
have a Belkin 4-port Omniview E series, and whenever I switch back to
X from another system, the mouse goes all crazy and I have to
ctrl+alt+backspace.
Sorry; don't have a suggestion on a KVM, but to fix
Marc Shapiro wrote:
Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marc Shapiro wrote:
The new card is a PCI Network Everywhere NC100U-WM.
SNIP
# modprobe tulip
snip
/lib/modules/2.2.17/net/tulip.o: insmod tulip failed
What does lspci -vv report about the card?
Results here:
00
Thomas Adam wrote:
--- Michael Satterwhite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/fr/man1/cups-config.1.gz', which is
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=287609
*sigh*
Thomas, I can understand your sigh, but searching bugs.debian.org and
actually
David Garamond wrote:
Jon Dowland wrote:
Ah, a top-post to a message posted off-list. D-u is getting to be as
readable as work email :-)
Yeah, sorry about the off-list thing. However, I always thought the
proper (polite?) way to reply to a top-post is by another top-post?
I can see the logic in
David Garamond wrote:
Sorry, a followup question. I deleted /etc/cron.daily/find several
days ago. How do I get it back? Reinstalling the findutils package
(using synaptic) doesn't bring it back.
Do I have to purge and install?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk apt-file search /etc/cron.daily/find
, wouldn't it also pre-date flashable
BIOS?
No, I remember flashing old ATT 6300 (4.77MHz 8086 PC) PCs here on
campus because they had a Y2K-style glitch in the BIOS; it wouldn't go
beyond 1987 or thereabouts (my memory is hazy).
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CW Harris wrote:
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 12:53:11PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Thursday 06 January 2005 01:44 pm, John Schmidt wrote:
Old pcs often can't boot from a CD even if they have one. You might
be able to flash the BIOS to upgrade it, but that assumes
Ivan Glushkov wrote:
messmate wrote:
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 09:39:27 +0100
Jochen Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just use the Windows installer for creating an NTFS or FAT partition
and leave the rest of the disk empty. When you're finished, use the
Debian installer to partition the rest. You may
Nate Bargmann wrote:
I may have not have jumped the MS ship seven years ago had I not found
FTE.
Wow! I was not aware of this editor. I do like it (for familiarity
reasons - don't know about power yet).
Thanks for mentioning it.
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messmate wrote:
I don't understand :(
Bought a new hd.
Installed the first partition as VFAT32 with fdisk to win.
Then installed win98.
Bought a win2000 + 2000professionnal.
Installed that over the first win98.
Now I can run win2000 or win2000 professionnal wihout any problem
and can read and
Andreas Rippl wrote:
On Thu, Dec 30, 2004 at 10:01:27AM +0100, Dani Belz wrote:
* John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [04-12-30 01:03]:
Any external modem that connects to the computer via a serial port will
work.
Unfortunately not true!
I agree, I had major trouble finding a modem
David T-G wrote:
I also don't want to take my first pass at this on the server, a fragile
node in the household. It would be much better to test on a spare box
first. That, then, also leads to why a mirror would be useful (I'd save
myself *two* frustrating WAN installs).
The test machine is a
George Karaolides wrote:
On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 08:24 -0600, Kent West wrote:
I'd leave the machine in console mode (no X) for that period of time, to
see if the machine gets sluggish. If not, you know it's somehow related
to running X.
I have left it on console mode, and the problem
understand
that Linux still needs some work to make it easier for manufacturers to
support their devices in Linux, but the bottom line is that the
manufacturers simply don't support their hardware on Linux, making it
more difficult to use those devices in Linux.
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YH wrote:
Hi,
Is sarge stable to install?
Depends on your criteria. For personal workstation use, I find even Sid
to be stable enough for my needs, and that way I get all the newest goodies.
If I were installing a non-critical server, I'd probably go with Stable.
For a critical server, I'd
George Karaolides wrote:
Greetings,
I am having problems running Debian Sarge on IBM ThinkCentre A50 PC's.
I have made an installation of the Desktop Environment from tasksel
using Debian Installer RC2. At some point the machine starts to behave
in an errratic manner: the system clock jumps
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On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 08:22:20AM -0600, Kent West wrote:
If you're only wanting to upgrade your kernel, and the 2.6 series is not
in the Woody repositories (implied from your post, but I haven't checked
lately), and you have network access, you can add the Stable
as a vulnerability
is found, if the developer/maintainer of that package is on the ball,
the fix will be in Sid very quickly, perhaps even before it makes it
into Stable. You also get newer toys to play with.
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I was really hoping this non-Debian-related thread would have died by
now . . . .
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Tom Allison wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Monday 27 December 2004 02:56 pm, Kent West wrote:
William Ballard wrote:
One must pick boring names, like Word :-)
John 1:1
Yep; that one should be free of controversy.
Hah! No kidding. For those who do not have a Bible, the verse cited
reads
J.A. de Vries wrote:
On 2004-12-31 @ 10:54:44 (week 53) Kent West wrote:
[I want a closing X on my tabs, like the feature found in Galeon.
I googled for [tabx] and found [it] at the Extension Room at MozDev
(http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/ctc),
but when I click to install
Brian M. Godfrey wrote:
This included hotplug (if you use kernel 2.6)
and discover. discover is also part of Woody (the stable version), but
not part of the base system. You can however install it later.
So I could install the stable version (Woody) minimally
But I'd suggest installing
Ridge Chittenden wrote:
Hi all,
I have a machine running Debian Woody. There's one
120GB hard drive, /dev/hda. When I installed Debian a
few months ago, I split the disk into two 60GB
partitions. I figured that I'd install another OS in
the second partition. I never did. Now, I want to
recombine
Ridge Chittenden wrote:
--- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ridge Chittenden wrote:
Now, I want to recombine the partitions into one, big chunk.
This would be a pretty straightforward use of parted, I assume, but here's the rub: For some reason, the
Debian installer put / on /dev/hda1
Brian M. Godfrey wrote:
But I'd suggest installing Sarge instead of Woody.
(Let the flamefest begin . . . .)
I haven't seen any flames yet, Kent. Maybe it's a good idea. But I can
borrow the 3.0r2 disks which, I think, are Woody. I'm sure they'll be fine
for now. Feel free to correct
jianan wrote:
I have upgraded from 'woody' with kernel-2.6.3 and KDE 3.1 to 'sarge' with
kernel-2.6.8 and KDE-3.2.3 using CD-ROM #1. It was not as easy as I had read
about. Below are some problems and questions.
Wow, you have a lot of problems. Unfortunately, I can't provide much
info for
Galeon has an X on each tab; clicking on the X closes that tab. I really
like this feature, but can't seem to figure out how to add it to
Firefox. I had it added a few (pre-0.9) versions ago via an extension,
but that extension no longer seems to be available.
Does anyone know how to add the
khromy wrote:
J.A. de Vries wrote:
On 2004-12-31 @ 10:16:43 (week 53) Kent West wrote:
Galeon has an X on each tab; clicking on the X closes that tab. I
really like this feature, but can't seem to figure out how to add it
to Firefox. I had it added a few (pre-0.9) versions ago via an
extension
Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
Can someone point me to the source that explains how to remove the
Network Environment Setup popup that comes up on boot.
I don't know what this Network Environment Setup popup is; can you
post a screen-shot of it on a web site somewhere so we can see what it
looks
Pascal Bonesh wrote:
On Fri, 2004-12-31 at 10:54 -0600, Kent West wrote:
Galeon has an X on each tab; clicking on the X closes that tab. I
really like this feature, but can't seem to figure out how to add it
to Firefox. I had it added a few (pre-0.9) versions ago via an
extension
Kent West wrote:
Pascal Bonesh wrote:
On Fri, 2004-12-31 at 10:54 -0600, Kent West wrote:
Does anyone know how to add the closing X to Firefox's tabs?
have you tried TabbrowserExtension?
No, because the homepage for that extension
(http://www.pryan.org/mozilla/site/TheOneKEA
Travis Crump wrote:
Pascal Bonesh wrote:
On Fri, 2004-12-31 at 10:54 -0600, Kent West wrote:
Does anyone know how to add the closing X to Firefox's tabs?
have you tried TabbrowserExtension?
The URL is http://piro.sakura.ne.jp/xul/tabextensions/index.html.en
According to the Advantages
stan wrote:
But the question to the list is what to use to install a Debian unstable
system, that blessed by Debian.
The Sarge netinst installer CD
(http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/). Then upgrade via the
net to Unstable.
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