Brian writes:
> On Sun 21 Sep 2014 at 21:01:17 +0200, lee wrote:
>
>> Brian writes:
>>
>> > On Sun 21 Sep 2014 at 14:40:31 +0200, lee wrote:
>> >
>> >> what might be the reason for exim4 taking ages (i. e. minutes) to start
>> >>
Sven Hartge writes:
> lee wrote:
>> Sven Hartge writes:
>>> lee wrote:
>
>>>> what might be the reason for exim4 taking ages (i. e. minutes) to
>>>> start when booting? The boot process keeps waiting until exim has
>>>> started.
>
Joel Rees writes:
>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 7:16 AM, lee wrote:
>>
>> I could guess that implicit linkage might refer to side effects of
>> intentional entanglement which may be undesirable or may occur without
>> being noticed (until a problem shows up which
Martin Steigerwald writes:
> Am Montag, 22. September 2014, 23:50:46 schrieb lee:
>> Martin Steigerwald writes:
>>
>> Do you really think they will be able to prevent all the other
>> software from depending on a particular init system or parts of it?
>
> Well…
John Hasler writes:
> lee wrote:
>> Mike McGinn writes:
>> As in any sane system of governance for this type of organization, the
>> ones doing the work get to make the decisions.
>
> lee wrote:
>> Then please modify Debians' social contract where it s
Nate Bargmann writes:
> * On 2014 21 Sep 15:10 -0500, lee wrote:
>> Mike McGinn writes:
>>
>> > As in any sane system of governance for this type of organization, the
>> > ones doing the work get to make the decisions.
>>
>> Then please modify De
Charlie writes:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 02:54:43 +0200 lee sent:
>
>> Why are things going wrong with it for you, and what
>> things?
>
> Lee,
>
> If I can jump in here re: fvwm. [fvwm 2.6.5] On my desktop I have this
> thing. I has two columns of squares which a
Steve Litt writes:
> On Sun, 21 Sep 2014 17:48:13 +0200
> lee wrote:
>
>> So i3 doesn't have any advantages for me --- fvwm is much more
>> flexible and without the utter confusion that arises when you try to
>> arrange a number of windows in a particular manner
Ric Moore writes:
> On 09/20/2014 04:20 PM, Don Armstrong wrote:
>>
>> Please stop.
>
> I agree. It's all free, so where's the beef? The Devs are free to do
> as the please. If anyone wants to do as they please, they are also
> free to do so. This ain't Windows. Ric
Of course they are free to do
Ric Moore writes:
> On 09/21/2014 07:37 AM, Martin Read wrote:
>
>> My mileage varies; in my experience, Debian in 2014 is a higher-quality
>> distribution than Debian in 2004. The obvious example is that sound (for
>> all practical purposes) Just Works on my current Debian system (all I
>> had t
Martin Read writes:
> On 21/09/14 16:15, lee wrote:
>> Martin Read writes:
>>> Nothing about the process of providing a Debian package looks
>>> ridiculously difficult to me.
>>
>> I started to read the huge documentation about how to do it and didn&#x
Joel Rees writes:
> (2) When I was a college student, when we talked about modularity, we
> talked about something called "implicit linkage". I don't know what
> the current term for it is, but it is the generalized problem of
> global constants, variables, protocols, and design patterns,
> espec
Martin Steigerwald writes:
> Am Montag, 22. September 2014, 03:41:53 schrieb lee:
>> "Andrew M.A. Cater" writes:
>> > Jessie freezes no later than November 5th 2014. Allow folk who are trying
>> > to work on the distribution to work on it and not to h
Ric Moore writes:
> Without networking, you do not proceed to Go.
If the upgrade fails, I won't have an internet connection anymore.
> So, I do not recommend the upgrade process from Wheezy to Jessie as a
> general rule. And certainly not on a system with only Debian
> installed. If nothing els
"Andrew M.A. Cater" writes:
> Jessie freezes no later than November 5th 2014. Allow folk who are trying to
> work on the distribution to work on it and not to have to intervene in this
> sort of discussion, please.
Nobody prevents them from doing either or forces them to do anything.
Once they
Linux-Fan writes:
> On 09/21/2014 08:41 PM, lee wrote:
>> Linux-Fan writes:
>>>> On 09/20/2014 04:55 PM, lee wrote:
>>>> Other than that, in my experience Seagate disks my have an unusually
>>>> high failure rate.
>>>
>>> Mine all w
David Baron writes:
> Aside from that, systemd works great, is lightening-fast, had no problems
> with
> it! So why all the fuss.
That an init system is being replaced is not even scratching the surface
of the issue, partly because of issues the init system intended to
replace the existing one
Mike McGinn writes:
> As in any sane system of governance for this type of organization, the
> ones doing the work get to make the decisions.
Then please modify Debians' social contract where it says that the users
are the priority.
Should I make a bug report for this?
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Joel Roth writes:
> I think it should be possible to find or create a forum for
> those who are concerned about this issue. I know that
> I would subscribe.
That would make it easier to ignore them. Wouldn't it make more sense
to create a list for people interested in alternatives to systemd?
John Hasler writes:
> lee writes:
>> what's the Debian or Linux equivalent to MS Windows terminal server
>> sessions through the remote desktop thing they have?
>
>> I would like to be able to let a user work remotely in an X11 session
>> (preferably with fvwm
Brian writes:
> On Sun 21 Sep 2014 at 14:40:31 +0200, lee wrote:
>
>> what might be the reason for exim4 taking ages (i. e. minutes) to start
>> when booting? The boot process keeps waiting until exim has started.
>>
>> Exim has been configured with 'dpkg-rec
Linux-Fan writes:
>> On 09/20/2014 04:55 PM, lee wrote:
>
>> Other than that, in my experience Seagate disks my have an unusually
>> high failure rate.
>
> Mine all work here. SMART reports
They'll work until they fail. I don't believe in the smart-
Reco writes:
> Hi.
>
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 20:34:28 +0200
> lee wrote:
>
>> > My biggest problem is I can't yet get qemu to run Debian or Ubuntu VMs
>> > on OpenBSD, for those few programs that don't run on OpenBSD.
>>
>> And you can&#
Martin Read writes:
> On 21/09/14 04:14, lee wrote:
>> Try to provide a Debian package and you'll see that it is so
>> ridiculously difficult that it is virtually impossible.
>
> Nothing about the process of providing a Debian package looks
> ridiculously difficult
Sven Hartge writes:
> lee wrote:
>
>> what might be the reason for exim4 taking ages (i. e. minutes) to
>> start when booting? The boot process keeps waiting until exim has
>> started.
>
> Maybe the network is not up or the nameserver is not responding. exim4
Joerg Desch writes:
> Hi.
>
> I'm using Debian Wheezy on two Notebooks and one Desktop. All systems are
> using NFS to access a NAS. While the notebooks have all data on there
> local SSDs, the Desktop is working directly on the NFS share.
>
> I currently use Unison to sync the data between the
"Andrew M.A. Cater" writes:
> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 02:48:59AM +0200, lee wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> any idea why an NFS volume is being unmounted when a VM runs out of
>> memory and kills some processes? These processes use files on the NFS
>>
Ken Heard writes:
> One of my boxes has a RAID1 using two Seagate SATA 3.0 1 tb hard drives.
> I need to replace one of them, and I would like to use as a replacement
> a Samsung SATA 2.0 1 tb drive which already has on it data which I do
> not need to keep.
>
> My first question is: although bo
marko...@eunet.rs writes:
> Maybe you have "noauto" option?
Nope.
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green writes:
> lee wrote at 2014-09-20 13:34 -0500:
>> There's also i3, if you can live with a tiling WM that doesn't support
>> sticky floating windows yet.
>
> I enjoy using i3. What is this "sticky floating windows" feature that
> I am missing?
Don Armstrong writes:
>> What I don't understand is that criticism and other forms of speaking
>> up cannot be considered as a form of contribution.
>
> Constructive criticism is often a useful contribution. Destructive
> criticism, much less so.
>
> Disagree all you want, but don't malign others
Bret Busby writes:
> Can we please have a list established, that is purely for providing
> support for users, and, that is free of the perpetual bitching -
> systemd this and systemd that?
Nobody prevents you from establishing such a list ...
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"Andrew M.A. Cater" writes:
> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 03:51:54AM +0200, lee wrote:
>> Andrew McGlashan writes:
>>
>> > Whilst it is usually quite easy to find older server class hardware at
>> > bargain prices (compared to new), it is often the case
Hi,
what's the Debian or Linux equivalent to MS Windows terminal server
sessions through the remote desktop thing they have?
I would like to be able to let a user work remotely in an X11 session
(preferably with fvwm, if I have to xfce, if it can't be avoided gnome
--- KDE only crashes in vncserv
Joel Rees writes:
>> 2014/09/21 12:15 "lee" :
>> If there were diffs shown, only the local diffs would show up.
>> [...]
>
> Because your branch and origin/master have diverged. (Talking about HEAD
> was misleading. I still get cvs/svn and git confused in thi
Hi,
what might be the reason for exim4 taking ages (i. e. minutes) to start
when booting? The boot process keeps waiting until exim has started.
Exim has been configured with 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config'.
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Don Armstrong writes:
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, lee wrote:
>> These few people are also very concerned with preventing other people,
>> particularly users, from doing something which would contribute to
>> what they claim that they are doing.
>
> Exactly how are Debian D
Joel Rees writes:
> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 3:43 AM, lee wrote:
>> Joel Rees writes:
>>
>>> Well, your experience with git and mine are quite different.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 11:15 PM, lee wrote:
>>>> Joel Rees writes:
>
Andrew McGlashan writes:
> Whilst it is usually quite easy to find older server class hardware at
> bargain prices (compared to new), it is often the case that older
> hardware is slower and much less power efficient to newer hardware and
> the pricing on lots of new gear has collapsed enough to
Hi,
any idea why an NFS volume is being unmounted when a VM runs out of
memory and kills some processes? These processes use files on the NFS
volume, but that's no reason to unmount it.
Also annoying: The volume doesn't get mounted when booting despite it's
in /etc/fstab. I have to log in into
Steve Litt writes:
> On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:11:50 +0200
> lee wrote:
>
>> Martin Read writes:
>>
>> > On 13/09/14 20:54, lee wrote:
>> >> Can you have, say, KDE on Gentoo without systemd? "Without
>> >> systemd" means *all* of
Cindy-Sue Causey writes:
> After going through this several times lately, I think of it this way:
> $25 for a cheap part when better quality is $50. That cheap part WILL
> break and usually very soon. $25 DOWN THE DRAIN, boom, just like that
> when that same $25 could have gone towards that $50 p
Joel Rees writes:
> Well, your experience with git and mine are quite different.
>
> On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 11:15 PM, lee wrote:
>> Joel Rees writes:
>> [...]
>
> Let's clear the conversation, it's too cluttered for me to make sense
> of it an
Steve Litt writes:
> On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 00:24:10 +0200
> lee wrote:
>
>> Steve Litt writes:
>>
>
>> And who knows what kind of problems you run into when you switch to
>> some BSD. Are there NVIDIA drivers for some BSD? Is everything I'm
>> u
Cindy-Sue Causey writes:
> What the person did was provide a digestible alternative for potential
> peers to review. People can tear it apart verbally and/or build upon
> it if they see value in what was presented..
>
> That's what I imagine happening here, but I'm still "newbie" naive on
> this
Linux-Fan writes:
> On 09/14/2014 04:33 PM, lee wrote:
>> Linux-Fan writes:
>>
>>>> On 09/14/2014 12:38 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>>>
>>> or even buy some additional drives (I know that it is often said that
>>> "today drives are
Linux-Fan writes:
> On 09/14/2014 04:35 PM, lee wrote:
>> Linux-Fan writes:
>>
>>> Also, the reliability of the external storage is required to be
>>> perfect
>>
>> Then forget USB disks. Get an HP Microserver and reliable disks.
>
> Sorr
Sven Joachim writes:
> On 2014-09-16 02:00 +0200, lee wrote:
>
>> And I'd also like to hear what advantages systemd actually brings about
>> that would make it desirable.
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd should get you started.
I've read th
Joel Rees writes:
> 2014/09/19 5:27 "lee" :
>>
>> Joel Rees writes:
>>
>> > On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 10:43 PM, lee wrote:
>> >> Joel Rees writes:
>> >
>> > Hmm. So. When you do a
>> >
>> > git status
&
B writes:
> On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:53:50 +0200
> lee wrote:
>
>> Have you actually tested (with hot-pluggable disks) what happens when
>> one of the partitions the system is swapping to suddenly becomes
>> unavailable or difficult to access and what happens when
st writes:
> lee wrote:
>
>> Shall we have a vote?
>
> That's hardly necessary, seeing as how Debian developers have
> been disregarding their users' needs in the last few years.
Good point ...
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Martin Read writes:
> On 16/09/14 01:00, lee wrote:
>> Shall we have a vote? AFAIK, there's nothing that would speak against
>> having one, in this very mailing list. Why not ask the users? Why
>> should only Debian developers be allowed to vote but not the users
Joel Rees writes:
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 10:43 PM, lee wrote:
>> Joel Rees writes:
>>
>>> 2014/09/14 6:55 "lee" yun.yagibdah.de
>>> >:
>>>>
>>>> Joel Rees @ gmail.com
>>> > writes:
>>>
>>> I
Lisi Reisz writes:
> On Saturday 13 September 2014 21:46:31 lee wrote:
>> You users, and the community members,
>> whoever they are, need to speak as well.
>
> Perhaps, just perhaps, many of them don't agree.
Well, I've now seen two people speaking up in re
Steve Litt writes:
> On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 21:54:56 +0200
> lee wrote:
>>
>> Can you have, say, KDE on Gentoo without systemd? "Without systemd"
>> means *all* of systemd, like systemd-login0 etc..
>
> But in answer to your question, my official answer
Linux-Fan writes:
>> On 09/14/2014 12:38 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>
> or even buy some additional drives (I know that it is often said that
> "today drives are cheap" but for me being comparatively new to
> computing, 60€ are still much for a HDD)
Where do you get good 2TB+ drives for only E
Linux-Fan writes:
> Also, the reliability of the external storage is required to be
> perfect
Then forget USB disks. Get an HP Microserver and reliable disks.
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Martin Read writes:
> On 13/09/14 20:54, lee wrote:
>> Can you have, say, KDE on Gentoo without systemd? "Without systemd"
>> means *all* of systemd, like systemd-login0 etc..
>
> [...]
>
> The best place to ask would be the user community discussion space
B writes:
> On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 22:56:48 +0200
> lee wrote:
>
>> Multiplication is an algorithmic operation.
>
> Well, technically speaking, it is additions.
In any case, some algorithm is used :)
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Joel Rees writes:
> 2014/09/14 6:55 "lee" yun.yagibdah.de
> >:
>>
>> Joel Rees @ gmail.com
> > writes:
>>
>> > 2014/09/12 3:35 "lee" yun.yagibdah.de
> >:
>> >>
>> >> [...]
>> >> Well, I don&
B writes:
> On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 23:09:58 +0200
> lee wrote:
>
>> Does swapping to partitions use
>> checksumming for data integrity?
>
> Not that I know of (but I always make a looong destructive test
> before use, either on regular partitions and swaps).
Joel Rees writes:
> 2014/09/12 3:35 "lee" :
>>
>> [...]
>> Well, I don't want to program some sort of meta-git ... I merely want a
>> simple way to be informed about new commits.
>
> I'm still wondering whether a cron job that does a stat
B writes:
> On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:32:08 +0200
> lee wrote:
>
>> Mounting swap partitions with the same priority does not provide
>> redundancy.
>
> As RAID doesn't provide data integrity w/ regular RAM.
RAID doesn't provide data integrity even with
Slavko writes:
> BTW, if someone is interested in, while this investigation i generated
> graphs of dependencies on some systemd packages on my system, they
> will be accessible for some time here:
>
> http://anfo.slavino.sk/libpam-systemd.png
> http://anfo.slavino.sk/libsystemd-daemon0.png
> htt
The Wanderer writes:
> On 09/12/2014 at 12:25 PM, Bret Busby wrote:
>
>> On 12/09/2014, The Wanderer wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/10/2014 at 04:00 AM, Bret Busby wrote:
>>
>> So, whether or not the swap partition is bigger than needed,
>> should not influence the inability of the system, to use the swa
Alexandros Prekates writes:
> My system is Debian stable with xfce.
>
> Wanting to swap CAPSLOCK with CONTROL i changed /etc/default/keyboard
> and following debian wiki page on keyboard i executed:
>
> sudo udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=input --action=change
>
> It worked! But .. after some
Don Armstrong writes:
> On Thu, 11 Sep 2014, lee wrote:
>> "Go down" can have various meanings. When you run a server and a
>> server process (like an MTA or an IMAP or web server) is killed
>> because the system runs out of memory, the server is effectively down.
Steve Litt writes:
> When Jessie goes stable, I'm actually going to try Jessie to see whether
> it will work reasonably, and if so I'll hold my nose and use the
> monolithic entanglement.
FWIW, I can tell you that it works for Fedora. So with a new
installation, it can potentially work for Debi
Curt writes:
> On 2014-09-12, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
>>
>> Possibly because nobody has stepped up to write a new algorithm.
>>
>
> Seems more like simple multiplication than algorithmic calculation to me.
Multiplication is an algorithmic operation.
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Slavko writes:
> Ahoj,
>
> Dňa Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:15:59 +0200 lee napísal:
>
>> Supporting systemd violates Debians' social contract.
>
> Can you be more verbose about this, please? Why? How? By what?
I'm finding it pretty obvious. The social contract say
B writes:
> On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:22:01 +0200
> lee wrote:
>
>> Why would you say that?
>
> root denied access to sysctl keys (that doesn't even exist on my
> systems).
I got some denied, too, and some didn't exist.
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B writes:
> On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 22:21:07 +0200
> lee wrote:
>
>> To prevent an undesirable state of the system due to insufficient
>> memory, you can use (a large amount of) swap space on a slow medium
>> because that may give you a chance to do something be
Jonathan Dowland writes:
> On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 10:05:33PM +0200, lee wrote:
>> I'm receiving 226542 bytes in 355 lines when I do this for one of the
>> repos ... and same for another one:
>>
>> curl https://github.com/lee-/info/git-newer/refs?service=gi
B writes:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:34:42 +0800
> Bret Busby wrote:
>
>> :~# sysctl -a|grep swap
>> vm.swappiness = 90
>> error: "Invalid argument" reading key "fs.binfmt_misc.register"
>> error: permission denied on key 'net.ipv4.route.flush'
>> error: permission denied on key 'net.ipv6.rout
Chris Bannister writes:
> On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 09:21:57PM +0200, lee wrote:
>> John Hasler writes:
>>
>> > It appears that there is a good chance that the "upgrade" to Systemd
>> > when upgrading to Jessie will not be automatic (or at least not sil
Don Armstrong writes:
> On Tue, 09 Sep 2014, lee wrote:
>> Why would 40GB be too much?
>
> It's probably too much, unless you have processes which allocate lots of
> memory and then use it very infrequently or you have incredibly fast
> disks.
It works fine, only can
Bret Busby writes:
> So, I believe (unttil and unless, advised otherwise) that the
> deleteing the file (which did not free up the disc space, in itself),
> and then, renaming the xsystem-errors.old file, to xsystem-errors,
> appears to have disappeared the problem, which, if I had known
> earlie
Bret Busby writes:
> I note that, with that file that is being accessed by Nautilus,
> assuming that the number 1169162 , is the size of the file, I have
> tried, but, apparently, can not reduce that to zero, as that number
> does not change, with my attempts.
On a side note: You could try nemo
B writes:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 03:30:40 +0800
> Bret Busby wrote:
>
>> Alright, then; it is doing token swapping - with 99% of 16GB memory
>> usage, and, swapping only 4% of (about) 40GB swap capacity, you can't
>> seriously tell me that the swapping is working as it should be.
>
> Anyway,
Martin Read writes:
> On 08/09/14 22:46, lee wrote:
> [proposed social-contract bug against general]
>> That's the bug report we need to file, accompanied by a detailed list of
>> the reasons. The most likely outcome would be that we are being banned.
>
> There
Jonathan Dowland writes:
> On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 11:58:35PM +0200, lee wrote:
>> One is using git:, the other one https:.
> snip
>> I don't have ssh access to any of the remote hosts. Both repos, I can
>> only clone/fetch/merge from.
>
> OK.
>
>>
Bret Busby writes:
> On 10/09/2014, Martin Read wrote:
>> On 09/09/14 19:42, B wrote:
>>> Normally, if you _really_ reach the system RAM limit, init begins
>>> killing the least used programs/daemons (well, this WAS true with
>>> a good init, such as the sysV one…)
>>
>> First, the OOM Kille
John Hasler writes:
> It appears that there is a good chance that the "upgrade" to Systemd
> when upgrading to Jessie will not be automatic (or at least not silent).
I would be majorly pissed if a distribution upgrade would force me to
suddenly use systemd and not give me a choice.
Besides, how
The Wanderer writes:
> On 09/08/2014 at 05:46 PM, lee wrote:
>
>> Rob Owens writes:
>>
>>> I'm smart enough to understand that a desktop environment (or a
>>> cd burner) depending on a particular init system doesn't make
>>> sense. But
Jonathan Dowland writes:
> I've been thinking about how to answer your question properly and I realised
> that the answer probably depends on which protocol you are using to pull from
> the remote repo. Or more properly, which protocols the remote repo supports.
One is using git:, the other one
Rob Owens writes:
> I'm smart enough to understand that a desktop environment (or a cd burner)
> depending on a particular init system doesn't make sense. But I have
> not yet figured out which package to file a bug with. I suspect the package
> maintainers are smart enough to realize this as
Martin Read writes:
> On 08/09/14 15:51, lee wrote:
>> If the problem is so easy to solve as you describe, i. e. by compiling
>> software appropriately, it boils down to that Debian would have to have
>> different versions of packages, compiled with appropriate options, whi
Tony van der Hoff writes:
>> Why can't I simply ask the (server of the) remote repo "when/what was
>> the last commit?". Why should I have to transfer large or huge amounts
>> of data to get an information which doesn't need to take more than 4
>> bytes (i. e. a unix timestamp)?
>>
>>
> It see
Chris Bannister writes:
> On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 06:29:08PM +0200, lee wrote:
>> lee writes:
>>
>> > how would I figure out what the last commit to a remote repo was without
>> > first fetching or pulling the remote repo?
>>
>> For now, I'
lee writes:
> how would I figure out what the last commit to a remote repo was without
> first fetching or pulling the remote repo?
For now, I'm going with 'git status'. See https://github.com/lee-/git-newer
I'd still like to have a better way to figure out if t
Joel Rees writes:
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 7:39 PM, lee wrote:
>> [...]
>> I have read so much documentation that I'm able to use git for what I'm
>> using it. If you are aware of some documentation that would be helpful
>> for the problem at hand, plea
Rusi Mody writes:
> On Monday, September 8, 2014 4:20:02 PM UTC+5:30, lee wrote:
>> Jonathan Dowland writes:
>
>> > On Sat, Sep 06, 2014 at 12:04:44AM +0200, lee wrote:
>> >> how would I figure out what the last commit to a remote repo was without
>> >&
Martin Read writes:
> [...]
> Perhaps you should investigate this approach in more detail; you seem
> to have a legitimate and praiseworthy requirement for a higher level
> of control over what runs on your system than a binary distribution
> can realistically provide.
If the problem is so easy
Joel Rees writes:
> 2014/09/08 2:08 "lee" :
>>
>> Sven Joachim writes:
>>
>> >> Does this mean that I cannot rely on any of the output of 'git status'
>> >> to decide whether there were commits or not?
>> >
>>
Jonathan Dowland writes:
> On Sat, Sep 06, 2014 at 12:04:44AM +0200, lee wrote:
>> how would I figure out what the last commit to a remote repo was without
>> first fetching or pulling the remote repo?
>
> This is an interesting question and I don't know the answer to i
Martin Read writes:
> On 07/09/14 18:31, lee wrote:
>> As to console-kit, it was awful in that it might create a ridiculous
>> number of processes, and I used to disable it because I never needed
>> it. Can you disable logind?
>
> If you don't need anything that
Steve Litt writes:
> On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 19:01:11 +0100
> Martin Read wrote:
>
>> If you aren't using a GUI, or your choice of GUI on Debian uses a
>> traditional window manager (and doesn't use gdm3 or lightdm as its X
>> display manager if it even has one) rather than being one of the
>> "d
Sven Joachim writes:
> On 2014-09-07 02:30 +0200, lee wrote:
>
>> Slavko writes:
>>
>>> Ahoj,
>>>
>>> Dňa Sat, 06 Sep 2014 02:08:47 +0200 lee napísal:
>>>
>>>> Doug writes:
>>>>
>>>> > It didn&
Slavko writes:
> AFAIK, the logind is replacement for consolekit and this dependecy can
> be good, when the logind will be able to work without systemd and with
> the cmanager- but it is not working yet.
How can it be good when your system depends on something you don't want
to have on your syst
Sven Joachim writes:
>> Does this mean that I cannot rely on any of the output of 'git status'
>> to decide whether there were commits or not?
>
> Commits where, on your local branch or on the remote one?
On the remote branch --- when they are made to my local copy, I will
know about it anyway b
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