On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 12:29:48AM +0200, lee wrote:
But I don't exactly want to have other users log in via ssh (letting
aside that there's no usable windoze client for that
What's wrong with PuTTY?
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On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 08:27:09AM -0400, Stephen wrote:
Formless Void, you would have more respect if you stopped arguing, as you
seem to argue for arguments sake. Whats sounds like a troll, and smells
like one, usually is one.
The trick is to ignore him until he either goes away or learns to
On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 11:46:34AM -0400, Mark R. White wrote:
I have 5 different systems with very similar setups, some dual core,
some single, but all on the same chipset running 32 bit Debian Etch
linux with the 2.6.15 kernel (I think one might have the 2.6.12 kernel).
I presume there's a
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 07:41:35PM -0400, Michael Marsh wrote:
You can also install xemacs21, which can live happily alongside
emacs21, and has no dependencies on emacs21 (that I can see).
..., and is also not GNU Emacs.
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On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 10:06:59PM -0400, Michael Marsh wrote:
The OP didn't say he wanted/needed GNU Emacs, he said he was trying to
install emacs21.
I would have thought the latter implied the former.
He can get essentially the same functionality with xemacs21 while
waiting for emacs21
On Sun, May 07, 2006 at 03:15:50PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
Regardless, SMTP time checks are system wide, not user specific.
Does Exim allow an arbitrary executable to be configured as the
system-wide filter? If so, couldn't that executable iterate over each
recipient's user-specific
On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 11:40:32PM +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote:
I think you might be misunderstanding what ramfs does.
And I think you might be as well.
Ramfs and tmpfs are distinct filesystems, with the most significant
difference being that tmpfs can make use of swap space whereas ramfs
On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 11:26:45AM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote:
Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There are other ways. Profit, however, is provably the most effective.
Below you say charities and church would setup more schools
if they had not to compete against public
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 09:51:56PM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote:
I think a community should provide its members with the basic
necessities to have a human-like live and to have chance to improve
it. This requires education, housing, social and physical security.
I can understand that
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 07:11:53AM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
If they are statically, linked, then they don't share their library
code. Ergo, you are wasting memory.
Multiple processes of the same statically linked executable will share
their text pages.
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On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 04:14:08PM -0400, Rich Johnson wrote:
O.K. But, your assertion was that Clinton used the military _more_
than the previous _five_ presidents put together.
Oh man, you caught him! Having only the _same_ number of deployments as
the previous _four_ presidents
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 05:58:39PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
What's the worst a pothead generally does?
He might start a movement to create an operating system consisting
entirely of Free Software, which might some day devestate the market for
buggy, commercial operating systems! We can't
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 12:50:20AM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
That is true whether or not the binary is statically linked.
Sure, but the grand parent post specifically asked about statically
linked binaries.
The important thing is that library code is not shared.
You stated ``If they
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 11:06:45PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
All powers not granted to the federal government by the Constitution
it rightfully, by that founding document of this nation, should not
have. Education is not one of those powers.
But, but... umm... interstate commerce! Yeah,
On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 08:12:06PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I haven't been putting up with OT nonsense on this list for long but
here are the postfix ingredients for killing a thread that people won't
let die. Can anyone think of ingredients for other MTAs?
Isn't this overkill in
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 07:33:03PM -0500, Mumia W wrote:
Before the GPL, people who wanted to release software freely would put
it into the public domain, where it would be free for only a brief
period before someone took it, changed it, and released it as
proprietary software.
Yep, because
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 07:02:07PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
Where is the string used for From in email composed in Mutt
specified?
In my muttrc file, I have:
set realname=Matthew R. Dempsky
set from=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The muttrc man page also says you can use my_hdr to customize
On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 03:54:29PM +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
When I'm reading a manual page, I do 'C-v' to go one screen ahead,
but 'M-v' does not work to go one screen back: when I do 'M-v',
the View menu is displayed instead.
How can I fix that?
I have Sarge stable, and Gnome.
Are you
On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 02:02:03PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
Uh, does this seem right? I recall sshd generating the key when it is
first installed and don't recall the key changing every reboot which is when
sshd would shutdown/startup like it would from inetd. :/
It generates the
On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 01:59:10PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
Machine with low RAM that I rarely access via ssh. I do need access from
time to time via ssh however.
Depending on how RAM limited the system is, you might also take a look
at dropbear; it's a lightweight ssh server available in
On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 07:23:03PM -0400, Bruce Corbin wrote:
Any suggestions?
Have you commented out ``UsePAM yes'' at the bottom of Debian's default
/etc/ssh/sshd_config?
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On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 07:52:18AM -0400, Daniel D Jones wrote:
Some troubleshooting revealed that checkpassword was complaining about
errno. A bit of time on Google indicated that I should modify conf-cc
to include the errno.h header and recompile checkpassword. I did and
the errno error
On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 08:13:06PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
ext2 is definitely faster than ext3.
A quick googling turned up a filesystem benchmark comparison at
http://linuxgazette.net/122/piszcz.html, which shows ext2 and ext3
almost indistinguishable.
Do you know of measurements indicating
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 11:18:48AM +1000, Star King of the Grape Trees wrote:
It is much, much better to use native programs, then if you can't find
native programs for linux, you may give wine a go. Some people must use
emulators (ie, VMWare), and some (like me) are forever doomed to
On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 06:37:21PM -0700, lmyho wrote:
I have firestarter installed. However it doesn't automatically start at
system
boot until I manually start it as root after login as reguler user.
Is there a symlink to /etc/init.d/firestarter in any of your /etc/rc*.d
directories?
On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 11:16:00PM -0700, formless void wrote:
Internal Fact Sheet is the one I can view from Xandros
Network.
When are you going to accept that Debian is not Xandros?
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On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 11:27:42PM -0700, Andy Gower wrote:
Check your /etc/init.d/ folder, is there a file called Firestarter in
there?
He said he was running /etc/init.d/firestarter directly in his post, so
it seems likely it exists.
There should be a file in there that will automatically
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 11:03:46AM -0700, lmyho wrote:
Just checked, yes I have S20firestarter in rc2.d. But I have no idea about
the
rc*.d directories? What are they for? How does this link I have affect the
start
of firestarter at bootup?
The short story is that any script symlinked
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 10:36:42PM -0500, John Klug wrote:
This was posted in bug report 336793 as being available. So how does
one get it?
http://packages.debian.org/openoffice.org-help-en-us shows that
openoffice.org-help-en-us is currently available only in unstable.
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On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 04:50:54AM +0100, IraqiGeek wrote:
Is there a simple way to install a C/C++ toolchain into debian (sarge)
without having to select each package manually under aptitude (nor
installing everything under the devel category)?
The ``build-essential'' package depends on
On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 08:00:32PM +0200, Eliteforce wrote:
i am looking for a lightweight (and easy configurable ;) mta and mailing
list manager.
I think qmail and ezmlm are pretty nice, but ...
I'm open for every suggestion, as long as it is free software :P
... they are not Free Software
On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 06:29:08PM -0700, Xplicit Language wrote:
thank you roberto and i did not know that i was being
rude, i will try to remember to bottom post.
I think it's a bit extreme to say top posting is ``rude,'' but I would
certainly agree that it makes reading posts a bit more
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 08:21:23PM +0800, Deephay wrote:
I just want to know that how harmful it will be if I run testing on
the server.
As others have said, it's advisable to use Stable if you're unsure.
If you find some package from Testing (or Unstable) that you absolutely
must have, you
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 11:50:39AM -0700, David E. Fox wrote:
Obviously one has to way the disadvantage of added bloat (adding
signatures this way is going to make for slightly bigger mails) vs.
having a defense (there's the signature) against people who just
can't figure out how to
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 10:44:24AM +0200, Nikolai Hlubek wrote:
Another option might be the runit package
which as I recall does the same as initng.
But I can't really recommend it since you have
to migrate your boot services manually.
One thing I like about runit is it's split up into many
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 09:45:39AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
Disk-Drive advertisements are one notable case where things are
confusing,
Every disk drive box I've ever taken a good look at had a footnote
clarifying that 1 GB = 1000,000,000 bytes.
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On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 07:49:18PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote:
Magnus Therning([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
Cool, never heard of that one before. Now I only need to figure out how
to get muttng to put it in mails.
folder-hook debian-user my_hdr Reply-To:
On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 09:13:04PM -0400, Stephen wrote:
Interesting. I've seen the unsubscribe footer on pgp signed messages,
reading with mutt, on this list -- this thread in fact.
Would you mind pointing one out? I just took a look and the only
unsubscribe sigs I saw in signed messages
On Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 02:54:36PM -0400, Michael Marsh wrote:
If you were using .xsession before, try:
$ ln -s .xsession .xinitrc
in your home directory.
A better solution is
ln -s /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc .xinitrc
so that the Xsession scripts (e.g. ssh-agent), are still executed
On Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 11:37:50PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
One can achieve that by putting . /etc/X11/Xsession as the first line
in .xinitrc
Yep, TMTOWTDI.
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On Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 10:19:39PM -0700, Rob Blomquist wrote:
I am trying to install this lovely non-OS reader for my PDFs, and I hear
their
is one apt-gettable, but I know not where it lay. I have as my sources,
stable main, updates main, contrib, non-free, and sarge-backports.
There is
On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 12:48:37PM -0400, Kevin B. McCarty wrote:
I can't find fastforward listed in the Debian package database -- is
it an unofficial package?
I believe it's generated from the fastforward-src package in oldstable.
In unstable, fastforward is included in the qmail package
On Sat, Apr 15, 2006 at 03:50:16AM +0200, Morten O. Hansen wrote:
Same here, it dumps core every time I quit.
I experience this as well.
At first, I presumed it was simply the known GSlice issue with the glib
upgrade, but even with G_SLICE=alway-malloc, the core dump seems to
still to occur,
On Sat, Apr 15, 2006 at 02:06:26PM -0600, Joseph Smidt wrote:
When I type startx it reads:
(EE) failed to load module evdev (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) failed to load module vesa (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) failed to load module keyboard (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) failed to
(Please don't send me copies of emails---list policy is to only followup
to the mailing list unless specifically requested.)
On Sat, Apr 15, 2006 at 03:09:50PM -0600, Joseph Smidt wrote:
Fatal server error:
Could not open default font 'fixed'
They moved where fonts are stored (again). The
On Sat, Apr 15, 2006 at 12:50:21PM -0400, nick lidakis wrote:
I was able to get xorg started with your suggestion, but startx
disregards my .xsession and tries to start twm (from
/usr/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc), whicj is not installed.
It seems xinit is now executing the shell script
On Sat, Apr 15, 2006 at 09:22:47AM +, Lynn Kilroy wrote:
The drives are brand new. 160GB SATA RAID Drives, Western Digital Caviar
Drives. When they get hot, they seem to shut down, and the OS, in it's
efforts to work with the data on the now apparently disabled drives
crashes. Both
(I'm subscribed to the list, so you don't need to send me duplicate
copies. It's also advisable to avoid top posting your replies.)
On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 09:54:30PM +0100, Steve Sheldon wrote:
I daren't go to the KDE desktop settings here as it will go directly to
800 x 600 max .. grin
Oh,
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 05:39:45PM -0500, Sumo Wrestler (or just ate too much)
wrote:
To subscribe, an actual e-mail address must be submitted.
Yes, but the list does not require posts to be sent from subscribed
addresses. You can either post from a separate address or not subscribe
at all.
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 09:06:45PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
Try sudo instead, and better to use the simplest software possible when
running as root... there are plenty of console editors, I suggest one of
those as your editor while root.
There's also sudoedit(1), which invokes your editor
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 06:26:05AM +, Lynn Kilroy wrote:
My machine has twin WD1600JS SATA RAID hard drives. I have them setup to
mirror each other, but I find them unreliable and I suspect heat trouble
because they get really hot to the touch.
Sorry, I don't have any specific advice,
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 11:57:09PM +1000, Star King of the Grape Trees wrote:
That has gotta be the most unusual quoting style I've ever seen.
You must not read the Ubuntu lists. :-)
For example:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-March/069690.html
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On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 09:56:26AM +0100, Steve Sheldon wrote:
Where my screen resolution has always been stable under SuSE or Fedora, it
doesnt appear to be with Debian.
Do you recall if you also used the nv driver on SuSE/Fedora, or did you
use nvidia or something else?
Also, it would
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 09:28:59AM +0100, Doofus wrote:
I'll never accept this reasoning. To my mind it takes openness to a
level that just causes unnecessary grief for many legitimate users.
What unnecessary grief?
Take a look through the debian-user archive for March 2006. Count how
many
On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 09:28:58AM -0600, ChadDavis wrote:
Does cron talk to the MTA with the SMTP port?
No, it pipes messages to /usr/sbin/sendmail.
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On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 11:56:17AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
Why doesn't it use mail?
Does it matter somehow?
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On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 12:35:54PM -0600, ChadDavis wrote:
And sendmail is an MTA? Sendmail hands it off to postfix?
Sendmail used to be *the* MTA, so many programs coded back in the day
hardcoded the assumption that they could use /usr/sbin/sendmail to
inject mail for delivery.
MTAs
On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 09:00:35PM +0200, Pol Hallen wrote:
i see:
root 34521 0.0 0.1 1912588 pts/17 S+ 15.30
/usr/bin/rsync --no-detach
--daemon
is't possible running rsync in chroot? If yes, what?
Sorry, are you asking how to tell if rsync is running in
On Tue, Apr 04, 2006 at 08:27:56AM +1000, Pascal Hakim wrote:
That's what we call the petsupermaket spammer.
Maybe we need a FAQ entry or something for this.
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On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 09:17:05PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
Steve, it does not come back to/through the listserver at all, but
directly to the poster to the list from a uol.com.br alias. So it has
nothing to do with the listserver traffic level at all.
Steve was talking about Hex Star
On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 05:45:32PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
More importantly is that the Debian list server has to spew out that 100kb
times, say, 60-75% of the list subscription base if they use multiple RCPT TO
lines, 100% of the list subscription base if they don't.
Debian's lists use
On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 12:06:35PM -0600, Glenn English wrote:
On Sunday April 2 2006 11:13, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
Todd Hooten wrote:
I have a clean, refurbished computer with an Intel
Xeon 2.8 GHz, 1 MB Cache processor. I am trying to
ascertain if Ubuntu Breezy is compatible with
On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 08:08:15PM -0500, T wrote:
the feature is so confusing.
It's so that shell snippets like
cd /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build
work correctly without extra hassle.
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On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 10:08:15PM -0800, Hex Star wrote:
How do you grow a pineapple in non tropical areas?
Stop this now. Enough bandwidth was already wasted in the original
thread, and then again in the melons thread.
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On Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 07:39:12PM -0500, T wrote:
So is it bash that is eating the trailing \n's?
Yes, but it's not a bug. See the section about ``Command Substitution''
in the bash(1) man page.
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On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 07:38:04AM +0530, Sridhar M.A. wrote:
CC sound/soundcore.mod.o
LD [M] sound/soundcore.ko
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/software/kernel/linux-2.6.16'
COLUMNS=150 dpkg -l 'gcc*' perl dpkg 'libc6*' binutils ldso make dpkg-dev |\
awk '$1 ~ /[hi]i/ {
On Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 10:32:55PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
On Thu, 2006-03-30 at 20:25 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How do you grow brocolli?
*You* don't grow broccoli, it grows itself...
Are you really so petty to forge emails like this? Get a life.
(For anyone thinking the original
On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 07:00:00PM +0200, Robert Epprecht wrote:
How can I check for MIDI input without blocking the program flow?
Open the file in non-blocking mode (i.e. pass O_NONBLOCK to open(2)),
and use select(2) to determine readability. read(2) will then return
-1/EAGAIN when there's
On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 07:31:12AM -0800, Peter Stoddard wrote:
Good idea, but I really want to get to the bottom of this 64 bit amd problem,
because I know it will keep coming up.
Are you actually experiencing any issues?
If the only ``problem'' you are having is that dpkg
On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 04:19:11PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote:
On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 03:54:38PM -0500, Hugo Jackson wrote:
I just installed etch.
Etch has not been released. you are using 'testing' which is the
development stream to produce 'Etch'.
From http://www.debian.org/releases/:
On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 12:46:14AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
Giving everybody access to ifconfig and its ilk sure sounds like a big
security hole to me.
That's ridiculous. If adding ifconfig to your users' PATH is a security
concern, your system is already at risk.
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On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 12:58:32AM -0600, Mike McCarty wrote:
Debian is, bar none, the major source of undesired e-mail for me.
I just took a look through the debian-user archive for March at
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ and saw maybe half a dozen spam
emails at most. (I did not spend
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 06:15:10PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
I have noticed that many newcomers to Debian often seem to not
understand that one of the big differences between Debian and other
distros/OSes is that you don't need to download EVERYTHING.
This is certainly the case for my
On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 04:35:32PM +, B.Hoffmann wrote:
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... no
Do you have g++ installed?
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On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 06:49:19PM +0100, Ernst-Magne Vindal wrote:
First of all, topposting..
While we're on the topic of email etiquette, perhaps we could discuss
pruning quotations to the bare minimum.
Top posting, while obnoxious, is not as bad as having to scroll down two
pages
On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 03:31:51PM -0500, Bob Robertson wrote:
Then *post* to the list with a fake address, such as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Don't be an ass by using an actual domain name. example.{com,org,net}
are reserved domain names that would be best for this.
Also, if you plan on doing this,
On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 11:14:50AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
Get out of your ivory tower and come join us in the bazaar.
Says the man wanting a closed mailing list.
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On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 11:05:52AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
So, please, tell me exactly how a mailing list for (dozens of?
hundreds of?) thousands of people who relays postings from any any all
comers is fundimentally different than an open relay?
No one forced you to subscribe to
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 12:16:43AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
Sorry, maybe I'm dense, but why is it ridiculous?
It prevents private replies.
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On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 06:35:06AM +, Chris Lale wrote:
And I thought that Debian was so secure!
To change the root password as Florian described, you need physical
access to the machine, which most attackers lack.
If you are concerned, you can set a password in lilo or grub.
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On Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 09:26:25PM +0100, Paolo Pantaleo wrote:
I beg you pardon, sir... it's my email web interface fault's...
Who is forcing you to use gmail?
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