Re: squeeze fails to install

2011-02-18 Thread Neal Hogan
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Dr. Ed Morbius dredmorb...@gmail.com wrote: on 20:34 Thu 17 Feb, Neal Hogan (nealho...@gmail.com) wrote: On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Dr. Ed Morbius dredmorb...@gmail.com wrote: on 19:30 Thu 17 Feb, Neal Hogan (nealho...@gmail.com) wrote: On Thu, Feb 17

Re: squeeze fails to install

2011-02-18 Thread Neal Hogan
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Dr. Ed Morbius dredmorb...@gmail.com wrote: on 20:34 Thu 17 Feb, Neal Hogan (nealho...@gmail.com) wrote: On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Dr. Ed Morbius dredmorb...@gmail.com wrote: on 19

Re: squeeze fails to install

2011-02-17 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:06 PM, David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote: On 02/15/2011 04:43 PM, Neal Hogan wrote: I've tried the mini.iso and full net-iso for both the gnu/bsd and gnu/linux system (i386) and no matter what I try it fails to partition my drive.    eg

Re: squeeze fails to install

2011-02-17 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Dr. Ed Morbius dredmorb...@gmail.com wrote: on 21:01 Wed 16 Feb, Neal Hogan (nealho...@gmail.com) wrote: I have another thread started that is not getting much traffic given the significance of the situation: installation. Every installation medium that I've

Re: squeeze fails to install

2011-02-17 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Dr. Ed Morbius dredmorb...@gmail.com wrote: I'll generally constrain my followup to the earlier thread rather than propogating two separate ones. on 18:11 Thu 17 Feb, Neal Hogan (nealho...@gmail.com) wrote: On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Dr. Ed Morbius

Re: squeeze fails to install

2011-02-17 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Dr. Ed Morbius dredmorb...@gmail.com wrote: on 19:30 Thu 17 Feb, Neal Hogan (nealho...@gmail.com) wrote: On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Dr. Ed Morbius dredmorb...@gmail.com wrote: I'll generally constrain my followup to the earlier thread rather than

Re: fresh squeeze install fails to partition

2011-02-16 Thread Neal Hogan
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:14 PM, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 20:46:55 -0800 David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote: On 02/15/2011 04:43 PM, Neal Hogan wrote: My goal was to install the debian GNU/bsd system, but things seemed to be messed up. I've tried

Re: fresh squeeze install fails to partition

2011-02-16 Thread Neal Hogan
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:14 PM,  bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 20:46:55 -0800 David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote: On 02/15/2011 04:43 PM, Neal Hogan wrote: My goal was to install

squeeze fails to install

2011-02-16 Thread Neal Hogan
I have another thread started that is not getting much traffic given the significance of the situation: installation. Every installation medium that I've tried fails. Those trials include net-install-iso, mini-iso, full-diskOne-iso. . .with both linux and bsd kernels. What information do those

fresh squeeze install fails to partition

2011-02-15 Thread Neal Hogan
Hi list, My goal was to install the debian GNU/bsd system, but things seemed to be messed up. I've tried the mini.iso and full net-iso for both the gnu/bsd and gnu/linux system (i386) and no matter what I try it fails to partition my drive. eg. [!!] Partition disks Failed to create

Re: fresh squeeze install fails to partition

2011-02-15 Thread Neal Hogan
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, My goal was to install the debian GNU/bsd system, but things seemed to be messed up. I've tried the mini.iso and full net-iso for both the gnu/bsd and gnu/linux system (i386) and no matter what I try it fails

Re: No icons, help.

2010-09-07 Thread Neal Hogan
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: I'm brand new to Debian, but not to Linux, altho I still consider myself pretty much a newbie after probably 12 years or so(!) (Slackware, RedHat, SuSE, PCLinuxOs, and a quick look at Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Puppy)  For general

Re: how to locate files on my computer

2010-09-02 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:00 PM, tom tom...@meltel.net wrote: On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 19:44 -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:39 PM, tom tom...@meltel.net wrote: I thought using the command: $ locate named files  would work, but nothing happens, even if I su to root.  Any help

Re: Symlinks (was Re: Triple boot with MS XP)

2010-06-18 Thread Neal Hogan
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 06/16/2010 10:03 PM, ABSDoug wrote: --- On Wed, 6/16/10, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:   Symlink the NTFS iTunes directory to some place under   $HOME. I've never heard this term Symlink. I'm off to

Re: Web browsers, Adobe Flash Debian

2010-06-10 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:39 PM, ABSDoug absd...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Thu, 6/10/10, Mihamina Rakotomandimby miham...@gulfsat.mg wrote: He will ask you the exact URL... If *I* was the person posting advice, *I* would have posted the URL. But then I try to make things EASY when helping...

Re: Web browsers, Adobe Flash Debian

2010-06-10 Thread Neal Hogan
BTW -- I hope that your referee understands my English curse-words, so that I can get ejected from this silly little game ;-) On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:39 PM, ABSDoug absd...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Thu, 6/10/10, Mihamina

Re: Web browsers, Adobe Flash Debian

2010-06-10 Thread Neal Hogan
yeah! On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:04 PM, ABSDoug absd...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Thu, 6/10/10, Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com wrote: Fuck off! Now that I know Mr. Hogan here doesn't have anything intelligent to add, off to the kill file with him! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian

Re: Acer Aspire One wireless issue

2010-06-08 Thread Neal Hogan
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 6:15 PM, ABSDoug absd...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Tue, 6/8/10, Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com wrote: Now wireless does’nt seem to work out of the box so you need to: Make sure that non-free and contrib are selected in the package list. Open a terminal and type

Re: Acer Aspire One wireless issue

2010-06-08 Thread Neal Hogan
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 7:57 PM, ABSDoug absd...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Tue, 6/8/10, Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com wrote: When adding packages, your system needs to know where to look. To find out, it looks at the list in /etc/apt/sources.list. Take a look at that. You'll probably see

Re: GUI fails to start

2010-05-31 Thread Neal Hogan
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Nathan Martin nbre...@hotmail.com wrote: Help! After the setup process for Lenny, the system reboots to start the new installation but the GUI does not come up. The screen remains blank. I checked the option for “Desktop” in the set up process. Everything

Re: daemonizing a command

2010-05-28 Thread Neal Hogan
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:43 AM, Israel Garcia igalva...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Israel Garcia igalva...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I need to daemonize this command on a debian lenny? ruby apd.rb

Re: daemonizing a command

2010-05-27 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Israel Garcia igalva...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I need to daemonize this command on a debian lenny? ruby apd.rb It's a simple app for my network. I was thinking to use nohup ruby app.rb at rc.local, but I want to know if there's other ways to do it. It's

Re: [OT] teenage slang. was: Re: [OT] Help for non-Debian distributions (was How to read log files)

2010-03-29 Thread Neal Hogan
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 29 March 2010 18:44:29 Stephen Powell wrote: On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:51:08 -0400 (EDT), Lisi wrote: As for KKL, I needed a translation. This is *really* off-topic, but perhaps this is it:

Re: (OT) gnash vs. flash (was Re: Why does installing gnome ...)

2010-03-18 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Mark Allums m...@allums.com wrote: On 3/17/2010 9:03 PM, Neal Hogan wrote: Most (if not all) software has some sort of license, like use as you'd like but make sure you tell the next person the same (BSD . . .as I understand it). However, Flash is not just

Re: (OT) gnash vs. flash (was Re: Why does installing gnome ...)

2010-03-18 Thread Neal Hogan
But can a purist accept such support and be a true linux user? Linux is not synonymous with free.  Debian is not synonymous with Stallman.  Please keep these facts in mind. Sure . . . I was just curious to get some particular responses from users. Thanks. In other words, you were

Re: (OT) gnash vs. flash

2010-03-18 Thread Neal Hogan
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 9:43 PM, John Hasler jhas...@debian.org wrote: Neal writes: to use Adobe software without paying for it is stealing . . . money . .. . no? No.  It may be copyright infringement if you do so without Adobe's permission, but copyright infringement is not theft according

Re:(OT) gnash vs. flash (was Re: Why does installing gnome ...)

2010-03-17 Thread Neal Hogan
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 2010-03-17 10:40, Stefan Monnier wrote: Installing Gnash screws up Flash. That is the core of the problem that needs to be fixed. There's no reason the two shouldn't be able to coexist peacefully so that each user

Re: (OT) gnash vs. flash (was Re: Why does installing gnome ...)

2010-03-17 Thread Neal Hogan
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 2010-03-17 16:35, Neal Hogan wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 2010-03-17 10:40, Stefan Monnier wrote: Installing Gnash screws up Flash. That is the core

Re: (OT) gnash vs. flash (was Re: Why does installing gnome ...)

2010-03-17 Thread Neal Hogan
The rub is that Debian doesn't officially know that Flash exists. Even if it did, too many DDs are morally opposed to closed-source to want to Depend on it. I highly suspect a flame-war here, but isn't against the Stallmanian-principle for a linux machines to play with those proprietary

Re: (OT) gnash vs. flash (was Re: Why does installing gnome ...)

2010-03-17 Thread Neal Hogan
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Andrew Reid rei...@bellatlantic.net wrote: On Wednesday 17 March 2010 20:15:51 Neal Hogan wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: Enough DDs are sufficiently practical for there to be a non-free tree, and Christian

Re: (OT) gnash vs. flash (was Re: Why does installing gnome ...)

2010-03-17 Thread Neal Hogan
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: Enough DDs are sufficiently practical for there to be a non-free tree, and Christian Marillat does yeoman's work with http://www.debian-multimedia.org/. non-free? I know that's what it's called, but I wonder how

Re: how to convince that debian is one the three major choices for a stable server environment?

2010-02-22 Thread Neal Hogan
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Tim Clewlow t...@clewlow.org wrote: On 22/02/2010 13:01, Γιώργος Πάλλας wrote: (it is, isn't it? :-) ) So, yes, we are moving on from our 10year experience with gentoo, and are searching for our new environment. From my personal experience I would say

Re: Install date

2010-02-10 Thread Neal Hogan
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Tim Tebbit tteb...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a file generated with a time stamp that would show the age of the current install somewhere? /var/log/dmesg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: Problems with alsaconf

2010-01-13 Thread Neal Hogan
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 7:26 AM, surreal firewal...@gmail.com wrote: All of a sudden my soundcard refused to work. I used 'alsaconf' and it detected the card. I was able to use it but after a reboot all settings seem to have lost. Didi you save your settings? man alsactl look at the 'store'

Re: How does a novice do this

2009-12-15 Thread Neal Hogan
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:48 PM, A. Kane a...@jakane.co.cc wrote: I am a novice not at all a computer geek. I just want simple clean internet and email with a good program like windows media center handling everything else along with some axillary stuff. I am not a fan of Windows or the

Re:[OT] Iceweasel annoyance

2009-11-22 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 11:41 PM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net wrote: On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:19:58 -0500 Patrick Wiseman pwise...@gmail.com dijo: On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com wrote: JJJ, You need to slow down. I don't have an answer

Re: Is Squeeze right for me?

2009-11-21 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 11:44 AM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net wrote: I have several years of experience with Ubuntu, but I have never looked inside. I'm just a pointy-clicky desktop user. How things work has never been of interest to me except when they don't work. Even then I just

Re: Iceweasel annoyance

2009-11-21 Thread Neal Hogan
JJJ, You need to slow down. Yes . . . there is a period one needs to get used to a new system. If you have completely switched (i.e., wiped your ubuntu partition) to debian and aren't comfortable, shame on you. It's not that Debian is that much different, but it's that such a move is

Re: Inquiry:What is the equivalent of ping -f -l on the Debian server?

2009-11-18 Thread Neal Hogan
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:25 AM, hadi motamedi motamed...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All To find the optimum MTU size , on the MS Windows client , we need to try for C:\ping www.google.com -f -l 1472 and then do for trial and error to find the optimum size . Can you please do me favor and let me

Re: debian won't load

2009-11-16 Thread Neal Hogan
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Carol Walter carol.wal...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Greetings, I'm trying to install debian from CD.  All goes along fine until I get to passed the selection of the groups of apps.  Then it says its selecting and installing software and goes to 5%.  At that point,

Re: Inquiry:How to enable Telnet SSH on my Debian 3.1 server?

2009-11-15 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 5:14 AM, hadi motamedi motamed...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for your reply . Please be informed that I tried as the followings : #apt-cache search telnet #apt-get install telnet At now , my Debian server can telnet to my MS Windows client but my MS Windows client

Re: Need to reconfigure sound on every boot

2009-11-03 Thread Neal Hogan
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Andreas Ronnquist andreas.ronnqu...@meritkonsult.se wrote: Hi! I need to do a alsaconf after every boot, otherwise I don't get any sound. This is on a ABit motherboard, Nvidia nforce 590 chipset, with built-in sound. How can I make it configure the built-in

Re: install

2009-11-03 Thread Neal Hogan
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:08 AM, chandrashekar sasnoor sasnoo...@hotmail.com wrote: i wanted to download the debain install but it dosen t allow me what should i do Can you expand on that? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: No Shut Down... option in System menu

2009-11-01 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I have no shut down... option in my System menu (I am using GNOME front-end). I am thus obliged to shut down using the terminal. How can I make these

Re: Blank CDs Not Being Detected

2009-11-01 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Ed eno...@monm.edu wrote:     I went to try and burn a CD this morning (the latest ubuntu ;) ) and I noticed my system does not recognize blank CDs anymore. How was your system before, when it did recognize them? What have you changed since you last stuck a

Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags

2009-10-22 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Peter Jordan usernetw...@gmx.info wrote: Hello, I plan to migrate from thunderbird to mutt. In thunderbird it is possible to define custom tags (e.g. debian with color red), so that the mails labeled with debian are highlighted red. Is that also possible

Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags

2009-10-22 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Peter Jordan usernetw...@gmx.info wrote: Wayne, Thu Oct 22 2009 19:07:04 GMT+0200 (CEST): Peter Jordan wrote: Neal Hogan, Thu Oct 22 2009 18:41:58 GMT+0200 (CEST): And how to label mails with tags? For a start While in mutt, hit F1 (the Manual page

Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?

2009-10-15 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Chris Jones cjns1...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 04:10:35PM EDT, John Hasler wrote: CJ writes: What exactly is on-topic to debian-user? The use of Debian. And therefore discussing _debian_ mailing-lists policy. I'm curious . . . when you

Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?

2009-10-13 Thread Neal Hogan
My goodness! This and the other 50 threads on the same topic in the last two months need to stop. Really! Some have problems with receiving mail from certain providers. Others have problems with users of providers that have acceptable features. Others just like to keep threads like this going. I

Re: Someone help me in the right direction for networks - Might be off topic

2009-10-12 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 7:45 PM, green greenfreedo...@gmail.com wrote: Dean Chester wrote at 2009-10-11 05:38 -0500: Now the main problem how would i go about configuring the workstations to allow home directries on any computer so users do not have to have specific computers and they

Re: Someone help me in the right direction for networks - Might be off topic

2009-10-11 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 5:38 AM, Dean Chester dean.g.ches...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I've been asked to set up a network of between 6 and 10 computers, using linux yet i don't know what to do. I've decided to allocate 2 as servers and because we have to run our network with in another

Re: Dual head config

2009-10-05 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Paras pradhan pradhanpa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am using debian lenny in my Dell 640m Laptop. When I connect my Samsung HDTV to the VGA output, I need to restart the X . And as soon as I restart X, the display doesn't look normal in my Laptop but it is

Re: Suggestions for video/tv capture?

2009-10-04 Thread Neal Hogan
For the OP, your requirements can be met quite well with a Haughpage PVR-150 (which I use on my Mythbuntu box) or PVR-350 or PVR-500.  All seem well supported.  I record from my DirecTV receiver using the S-Video input on the PVR-150.  The PVR series mentioned are analog capture only. I've

Re: Hello! Please, I need your help! An advice of what I need to download to

2009-10-04 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 8:55 AM, guido mezzalana gmezzal...@hotmail.com wrote:  Hi, I am trying to sort it out the folloing problem about Debian installation. The only problem I am getting is I have not sound! clickin on volume control is telling me:  no volume control GS streamer plugins

Re: Gmail again

2009-10-03 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Vinicius Massuchetto viniciusan...@gmail.com wrote: Another thing that really piss me off is when I want to reply a message to the list. Pressing `R` or clicking on `Reply` places the author of the current email on the `To:` field, not the list address. Let me

Re: Gmail again

2009-10-03 Thread Neal Hogan
Your message goes where your MUA sends it.  If you don't want it to go to the OP don't send it there. -- John Hasler Ya . . . the more I think about it, it makes better sense to inculde the OP's email, in case you want to take an OT post offlist . . . a practice that is underused, IMO. .

Re: how to get sound back?

2009-09-29 Thread Neal Hogan
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Hugh Lawson hlaw...@triad.rr.com wrote: Debian lenny, alsa dpkg -l | grep alsa ii  alsa-base    1.0.17.dfsg-4      ALSA driver configuration files ii  alsa-utils   1.0.16-2           ALSA utilities ii  gstreamer0.10-alsa   0.10.19-2  GStreamer plugin for

Re: how to get sound back?

2009-09-29 Thread Neal Hogan
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Hugh Lawson hlaw...@triad.rr.com wrote: Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Hugh Lawson hlaw...@triad.rr.com wrote: Yesterday, after running some .avi files with mplayer, my system lost sound. Rebooting brought the sound

Re: Suggestions for desktop manager: [was Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-29 Thread Neal Hogan
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 29 September 2009 23:20:06 Preston Boyington wrote: Kevin Ross wrote: snipped If you want auto-login, and fast startup with minimal dependencies, then skip the display manager, change your getty to rungetty and

Re: sudden power off ... ?!?

2009-09-21 Thread Neal Hogan
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Dan mesli...@yahoo.fr wrote: Hello List, It is few days that I installed (standard installation) Debian Lenny on this pc. Which pc? If it's a harware issue, perhaps letting us know what hardware you have may help (dmesg?). Perhaps someone may have had

Re: [ANN] New mailing list for offtopic stuff

2009-09-15 Thread Neal Hogan
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 00:19 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: The new list is d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org[1]. At the moment it is open for posting by anyone[2] and you are welcome to move any discussions to

Re: using hotmail.com or mail.live.com (movin' OT)

2009-09-14 Thread Neal Hogan
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 21:00 -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 2009-09-13 16:33, Peter Crawford wrote: September 10, 2009 1:06:03 PM Ron wrote, Did

Re: [ANN] New mailing list for offtopic stuff

2009-09-13 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, As some of you might recall I have been pushing for quite some time for a debian-offtopic list (#425439, #427218). It seems I have managed to convince Holger Levsen, responsible for the

Re: using hotmail.com ...

2009-09-13 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Peter Crawford creature...@hotmail.com wrote: September 10, 2009 1:06:03 PM Ron wrote, Did you forget to write something?Well I've updated the version number in about:config general.useragent.extra.firefox ... Firefox/3.0.9                         ... Peter

Re: using hotmail.com or mail.live.com (movin' OT)

2009-09-13 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 2009-09-13 16:33, Peter Crawford wrote: September 10, 2009 1:06:03 PM Ron wrote, Did you forget to write something? Well I've updated the version number in about:config general.useragent.extra.firefox ...

Re: Getting network connection

2009-09-06 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 2009-09-05 21:24, Jason Hsu wrote: I successfully installed Debian on a laptop, but it's refusing to connect to the Internet.  It had no difficulty connecting during the installation process, but it's not connecting

Re: Switching from GNOME to another window manager

2009-09-06 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Jason Hsujhsu802...@jasonhsu.com wrote: I used the default install to install Debian on a laptop as the sole OS. It boots up in GNOME, which is too slow and sluggish.  How can I switch to XFCE, Fluxbox, or some other lightweight window manager? You

Re: Reporting List Mail As SPAM

2009-09-01 Thread Neal Hogan
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote: I think someone is reporting valid list mail as SPAM.  I got notified today that one of the mails I sent to the list was identified as SPAM.  The Return- Path on the message was: bounce-debian-

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-30 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 2009-08-29 23:34, Neal Hogan wrote: I forget when we made this agreement :) Well before you started using the internet on a regular basis. Well, it must have been against my will. In High School Civics class

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Neal Hogan
using gmail . . . rich formatting . . . clicked repy to all oh . . . and this is top-posted get over the email format! gmail provides a nice gui-riffic format that many feel comfortable using. I don't get where this complaining about client usage is going. If you a want more pure OS, then . . .

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 2009-08-29 22:31, Neal Hogan wrote: using gmail . . . rich formatting . . . clicked repy to all oh . . . and this is top-posted get over the email format! I know.  Lost that war a long time ago... gmail provides

Re: Reason #14749 to hate gmail (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-08-29 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 2009-08-29 22:45, Neal Hogan wrote: On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 2009-08-29 22:31, Neal Hogan wrote: using gmail . . . rich formatting . . . clicked repy to all oh

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:02 PM, JoeHilljoeh...@teksavvy.com wrote: Neal Hogan wrote: using gmail . . . rich formatting . . . clicked repy to all oh . . . and this is top-posted get over the email format! It's called being polite, and putting other people's needs ahead of your own. It's

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 2009-08-29 23:02, JoeHill wrote: Neal Hogan wrote: using gmail . . . rich formatting . . . clicked repy to all oh . . . and this is top-posted get over the email format! It's called being polite, and putting

Re: Reason #14749 to hate gmail (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-08-29 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 2009-08-29 23:06, Neal Hogan wrote: On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 2009-08-29 22:45, Neal Hogan wrote: [snip] Just closing the gmail message (i.e., failed joke). I

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Neal Hogan
I forget when we made this agreement :) Well before you started using the internet on a regular basis. Well, it must have been against my will. If someone comes on here and starts asking us to forgive the fact that they use different letters than we do, we're gonna say 'go f yourself',

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 2009-08-29 23:25, Neal Hogan wrote: [snip] We don't have to think Arrrghhh!  The dumbing-down of American civilization!! Must... end... thread... now... before... write... mile... long... screed!!! I thought

Re: Installing Lenny

2009-08-19 Thread Neal Hogan
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Roman Gelfandrgelfa...@gmail.com wrote: I have vista 64 and fedora 10 installed  The bootloader is GRUB.  I am looking to install Lenny in place of fedora.  What would be the right way to approach it? Back-up current stuff, d'load the .iso, burn it to cd and

Re: OT: TV Tuner

2009-08-19 Thread Neal Hogan
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Thomas H. Georgeli...@tomgeorge.info wrote: I recently emeraged from the dark ages and purchased a 23 LCD monitor. Now I am wondering about purchasing a TV tuner and connecting the cable box (Comcast) to the pc rather than replacing my 15 year old analog tv

Re: Installing a Wireless Card

2009-08-17 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:30 PM, r...@aarden.us wrote: I would like some help in completing the installation with a wireless pcmia card. I just installed 502 from CDs on a Dell laptop. I did not have the Belkin wireless pcmcia card (HSM model no. F5D7011. Chipset BCM4306/BCM2050) in place

Re: installing a realtek 8139 lan card on 2.4.18

2009-08-15 Thread Neal Hogan
What else have you done? Did you just plug it in? I also read up the network howto and tried things like putting eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces, trying eth0 up, etc. No use - till now. What does you system think of the card (eg, what is the output of lspci | grep Realtek of dmesg)?

Re: installing a realtek 8139 lan card on 2.4.18

2009-08-15 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Sandip Sandipnew.debianu...@yahoo.in wrote: From: Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com To: Sandip Sandip new.debianu...@yahoo.in Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, 15 August, 2009 6:44:26 PM Subject: Re: installing

Re: installing a realtek 8139 lan card on 2.4.18

2009-08-13 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Sandip Sandipnew.debianu...@yahoo.in wrote: I am trying to install a realtek 8139 lan card on an old debian machine - 2.4.18-bf2.4 The card is properly installed - as in when I connect the lan cable it the lights on the card start blinking. However, I am

Re: problem with installing wifi driver from source

2009-08-12 Thread Neal Hogan
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 6:26 AM, a dehqandehqa...@gmail.com wrote: In The Name Of God The compassion merciful Good day every body , Don't have anybody any opinion ? U . . . Chicago pizza is the best. Red is pretty. The Phish show that I went to last night was awesome! . . . need more?

Re: Xfce (was Re: Musings on debian-user list) (now: waaay OT)

2009-08-03 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 2009-08-02 12:21, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-08-02 05:59, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sun,02.Aug.09, 03:45:58, Ron Johnson wrote: My Xfce setup would be very familiar for a Windows 2k user ;) Can you send me (or

Re: Xfce (was Re: Musings on debian-user list) (now: waaay OT)

2009-08-03 Thread Neal Hogan
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 2009-08-03 06:05, Neal Hogan wrote: [snip] Mr. Popescu has kindly pointed out basic point-drag, drop, GUI-click help, which should have been found and played with upon install. There is definitely no reason to bother

Re: A Laptop where all hardware is perfectly supported

2009-08-03 Thread Neal Hogan
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Scott Giffordsgiff...@suspectclass.com wrote: Todd A. Jacobs nos...@codegnome.org writes: [...] Dell purportedly sells a netbook with Ubuntu on it, but I haven't tried it myself. I have a Dell Inspiron E1505 that came with Ubuntu pre-installed, and it works

Re: Xfce (was Re: Musings on debian-user list) (now: waaay OT)

2009-08-03 Thread Neal Hogan
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Andrei Popescuandreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon,03.Aug.09, 06:05:46, Neal Hogan wrote: [...] Mr. Popescu You're kidding, right? :) nah . . . you deserve respect! what do you want to be called? Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply

Re: Xfce (was Re: Musings on debian-user list) (now: waaay OT)

2009-08-03 Thread Neal Hogan
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 2009-08-03 11:59, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mon,03.Aug.09, 06:05:46, Neal Hogan wrote:  [...] Mr. Popescu You're kidding, right? :) Unless Andrei is a female name, or you're a child... if this is the case

Re: Xfce (was Re: Musings on debian-user list) (now: waaay OT)

2009-08-03 Thread Neal Hogan
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Andrei Popescuandreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon,03.Aug.09, 23:57:06, Aioanei Rares wrote: Depending on country and/or language there can be rules to determine if a name is female or male. For example in my language I don't know of any male name that ends

Re: Xfce (was Re: Musings on debian-user list) (now: waaay OT)

2009-08-03 Thread Neal Hogan
Actually this thread (of a thread) is back on topic, namely, the nature of the debian-user@ list I referred to you as it. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Andrei Popescuandreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon,03.Aug.09, 17:03:01, Neal Hogan wrote: ok ,ok . . . I'll just be gender neutral from

Re: A Laptop where all hardware is perfectly supported

2009-08-02 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 8:34 PM, fred bassetfredbasset1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I'll soon be able to spec. a new laptop for my new job.  Can anyone recommend any systems that can run the latest Debian and support all the hardware out of the box?  I prefer IBM and Dell laptops myself. It

Re: Installing via NFS - I think?

2009-08-01 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 2:37 PM, AGcomputing.acco...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi all I'm happy to follow up with the relevant reading, but I want some help in defining the question so that I know what it is that I am looking at: I have an old laptop that runs Slackware 10.1 and its CD-R is

Re: Musings on debian-user list

2009-07-30 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Girish Kulkarnigir...@athene.org.in wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009, Neal Hogan wrote: ... I think Mark has hit the proverbial nail-on-the-head ... Yes, with a top-posted HTML message, sent using Gmail.  :-) okay . . . maybe he bent the nail a bit. At least

Re: Musings on debian-user list

2009-07-29 Thread Neal Hogan
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 2009-07-29 00:20, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Tue, Jul 28 2009, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-07-28 13:09, Mark wrote: [snip] When I feel adventurous one weekend I'll try a Debian install without the desktop

Re: Musings on debian-user list

2009-07-28 Thread Neal Hogan
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:00 AM, Andrei Popescuandreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon,27.Jul.09, 16:53:54, Tim Beauregard wrote: I recently re-subscribed having been off for about four years.  The changes I have noticed are: 1. Much less traffic.  I previously got 250+ posts per day.  Now

Re: Musings on debian-user list

2009-07-28 Thread Neal Hogan
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Lisi Reiszlisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 28 July 2009 11:59:00 Neal Hogan wrote: Why? What's the problem? A thick skin is an attribute, not a detrimment. Maybe.  But it is still not really reasonable to poke fun at someone and then if that person

Re: Musings on debian-user list

2009-07-28 Thread Neal Hogan
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:25 AM, Nate Bargmannn...@n0nb.us wrote: * Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com [2009 Jul 28 06:01 -0500]: I appreciate the OP's sentiment that the lack of flaming is good . . . but, a good (hearted) laugh at another's expense is . . . fun . . . and seems to be discourged

Re: Musings on debian-user list

2009-07-28 Thread Neal Hogan
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Markmamar...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting thread.  From a Debian/Linux and Debian email list newbie's perspective: I spent several months researching Debian (actually tried openSUSE before Debian), printing/reading manuals, wiki's, doing multiple installations

Re: How do I setup wireless network (READ THE DOCUMENTATION or be more specific with your questions)

2009-07-23 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 1:47 AM, Robert Holtzmanhol...@cox.net wrote: On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, thirstyh2o wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:57:07 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, thirstyh2o wrote: On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 02:56:51 +0200, Ogya Chief wrote:

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