Re: How to best use the list?

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Dave Walker wrote: > I have done a bit of posting here during my attempt to get sarge > running smoothly, and my experience has shown me that I need to learn > a bit on how best to use this list. > > I use WinXP and Gmail to communictate to the list (still struggling > with debian on another box)

Re: Linux and firewire drives

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Pete Clarke wrote: > Hi there, > > What is the current state of support for firewire attached drives within > Linux .. In konqueror... gg:ieee1394 linux hard drive -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Lamb wrote: > For us it's simpler. We drive to the airport, part where we want (of > which there is ample parking) and take the shuttle which drops us off at > the > terminal of our choice. Since the shuttles are designed to carry > passengers and their luggage no problems with the lug

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/01/07 08:30, Mitja Podreka wrote: >> Steve Lamb wrote: >>> Mitja Podreka wrote: >>> > [snip] >>> >>> Speed is not nearly as dangerous as the *difference of speed*. >> What I meant is: "why do you need a car which can go 250km/h if your >> country doesn't allow you

Re: Newie questions about security

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 01:21:46PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> Firestarter and other Linux based firewalls are when you want to build a >> firewall for your network. You cannot build a firewall for just the >> computer you want to fire

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/01/07 08:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> On 28 Feb, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >>> On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 03:58:10PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >>>> Now the question is, do you r

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > By the way, isn't air travel an example of fairly efficient (and > government subsidized) public transportation, at least long distance > flights? More like Amtrak and individual state's rail corporations, unless you're willing to argue for-profit airlines sponging off

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Lamb wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: >> Now the question is, do you really need three motor vehicles, or are two >> of 'em a crutch for not leaning on your local officials to fix public >> transport? > > Paul, public transportation is a farce, plain and simple

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > two for one: > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 09:38:24PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 03:58:10PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> > >> > Now the question is, do you really need three motor vehicles, or are

Re: What's the best way to backup to dvd?

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Joe Hart wrote: > I think you hit it on the head. Because it's available. One of the > quirks of living in this liberal country is that it is _not_ illegal to > download films and music from the internet. Some loophole in the > copyright law. I always thought it was a strange dichotomy that I

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Greg Folkert wrote: > So, I guess Al Gore using a private jet and huge limos and other large > contingents of vehicles makes him a non-enemy (yes, I used that term > intentionally). Al Gore, quite famously, drives himself around in a Prius. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> I also have a 1969 Oldsmobile 442, a 1984 Oldsmobile Cutlass Calais >> and a 1988 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme Classic (being a reworked and >> completely fluffed up remaining 1987's that were not sold). All have >> had the engines,

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/28/07 20:24, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 07:16:52PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > [snip] >>> >> I know what you mean. I drive a '97 Mazda. I get 33-36 MPG in mixed >> city/highway (daily commu

Re: Newie questions about security

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Jordi wrote: > Hello Paul > >> RFC says stealth should never be used. > > And if I don't use stealth, what do I use? I thought by what we talked > here that ports in linux are closed if I don't forward them. Closed sends an actual closed response, stealth is like trying to talk to Terry Schaivo

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Freddy Freeloader wrote: > Another liberal wanting to decide for everyone else what they should > drive, how they should live, etc  You ought to be using Windows, not > an OS built on freedom of choice You realize that GNU and socialism have more in common than in difference, right? --

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Lamb wrote: > Mitja Podreka wrote: >> It can comfortably run at speeds which are within the >> speed limits and is probably as safe as >> Hummer and similar monsters. > > If you think "well within speed limits" and "safe" are one and the > same, > you're sorely mistaken. What a lot

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Lamb wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> Obviously that kind of change can't happen overnight. Its an ugly >> problem, no matter how you cut it. > > And that doesn't even come close to talking about the problem that a > purely electric car has no range at all. I once scoffed at Ha

Re: What's the best way to backup to dvd?

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Caoilte O'Connor wrote: > I'm looking to backup my mp3 collection (50gig or so) to dvds. I'll > have to tar it all because some of the filenames are too long and a > few have strange accents. > > What would people suggest is the best way to go about doing this? I > guess I need to find the best w

Re: Newie questions about security

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Jordi wrote: > Hello, > > I just managed to configure my server and router and ips yesterday and > now I have questions about security. I did a scan of ports and saw the > only open are the ones I opened. I also set my router firewall to > "standard". > > 1) Must I CLOSE the ports that I don't u

Re: question about dns server at home

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Jordi wrote: > Hello. > > I would like to ask questions about DNS servers: > > 1) What is needed to host my own domain name at home? Do I need 2 > static public ip? Or just one? If I need 2, do I need 2 dsl > connections? Two IPs, though most registries and many registrars require that these tw

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > I see a future for me where we have a gas mini-van for the family to go > visit the coast once or twice a year and for those occasional trips where > we all go somewhere together and 1 or 2 electric vehicles for the vast > majority of our drives as its all well wi

Re: Undigesting digests (was: Number of OT Posts)

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Jim Hyslop wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: >> You're supposed to undigest digests back into their component messages >> after receiving the digest > > Interesting. I didn't know that (and I suspect most people like me who > are learning to kick the Windows de

Re: question about dns server at home

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Håkon Alstadheim wrote: > Jordi wrote: >> Hello. >> >> I would like to ask questions about DNS servers: >> >> 1) What is needed to host my own domain name at home? Do I need 2 >> static public ip? Or just one? If I need 2, do I need 2 dsl >> connections? >> > A zone needs 2 or more name-servers

Re: old packages

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Petra Kabayo wrote: > Is there any place I can get old packages? Like for example, the latest > stable mysql-server package is 4.1.11a-4sarge7. Where can I get 4.1.11a-4? > or older versions? Have you taken a look at snapshot.debian.net to see if it's in the archives? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: how to send files from a pc to my home server and viceversa

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Jordi wrote: > Hello > > Yesterday I was able to run my server. I have 2 computers at home, one > is server and the other is not. Both are connected to router. One uses > Xubuntu and the other Windows XP. > I know Xubuntu is not Debian but it is based on it. Few people in > Xubuntu know how to do

Re: smtp time spam filtering

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Johnson
David Hart wrote: > On Mon 2007-02-26 14:26:58 -0800 Paul Johnson wrote: >> David Hart wrote: >> > On Sat 2007-02-24 21:03:11 -0500 Greg Folkert wrote: >> >> >> >> Bouncing... bingo. If the sender doesn't handle it properly, it isn't >>

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Johnson
cothrige wrote: > And I certainly wouldn't put him in the current camp > of anti-conservatives which your previous post seemed to imply, though > I may have read into that. Barry Goldwater is conservative, not neoconservative. The former is somewhat centerist, the latter is not. If you need to

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/27/07 15:29, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >> >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> On 02/26/07 16:11, Paul Johnson wro

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/27/07 18:01, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >> >>> On 02/26/07 18:27, Paul Johnson wrote: >>>> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:39:40PM -0800, Steve Lamb wro

Re: OT

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/27/07 15:45, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Mike McCarty wrote: >> >>> Paul Johnson wrote: >>>> Julian De Marchi wrote: >>>> >>>>> I use ms outlook at work, cause I am locked down to use it. >>>>

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:53:40PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> If that were true, US-101 across the Columbia River would still be toll, >> and last summer I would have had a lot more toll receipts from Bridge of >> the >> Gods, w

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Freddy Freeloader wrote: > Mitja Podreka wrote: >> It can comfortably >> run at speeds which are within the speed limits and is probably as >> safe as Hummer and similar monsters. > > U Have a head-on crash with a Hummer, or 3/4 ton 4-wheel drive > pickup and see who survives Anothe

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Freddy Freeloader wrote: > When did this change? I lived in Oregon for more than 20 years and at > that time all you had to do to be required to pay Oregon's income tax > was to live in Oregon. I lived in the Milton-Freewater area for years > and worked just across the border in Walla Walla. I

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 03:48:10PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> Given that America's catching up politically to the rest of the world, >> yes, those *are* centrist ideals these days. >> > Sorry. I don't like relativism

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 08:55:28AM +0100, Dan H. wrote: >> >> I think in any society, no matter in what system, it's always the stupid >> and poor that end up in the military, at least in those ranks that >> actually have to do the dirty work and risk their lives. >>

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 04:11:40PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> You can be in favor of a higher minimum wage and still be against >> increasing the number of H1B visas. > > Of course you can. It just makes you a hypocrite. How so?

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:00:46PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> There is. Democrats have had a stranglehold on the center ever since the >> Republicans ceded the right-of-center in favor of the hard right in the >> late 1990s. >>

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/26/07 18:27, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:39:40PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: >>>> Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
cothrige wrote: > * Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> >> > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:38:59AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> >> >> Name five American national-level politicians in your lifetime that >>

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/26/07 14:38, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Stephen wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 09:34:12AM -0600 or thereabouts, Kent West >>> wrote: >>>> Ron Johnson wrote: > [snip] >> How many hydro dams are on the Mississipp

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:28:59PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> How about the mode, and ban outside employment of elected officials? I >> guarantee minimum wage will return to being a minimum living wage again >> like it starte

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Kent West wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> But coal is less oogey-boogey scary [than nuclear]. >> >> Besides, the power (a *LOT* of power) has to come from *somewhere*, >> on a *large* industrial scale. Especially over in China, where coal >> and auto pollution is hundreds of times worse than in th

Re: OT Posts - My apologies!

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Julian De Marchi wrote: > I have found my out spoken "opinion" of OT threads to be quiet mistaken. > After having the time to read the non "god" related ones, they actually > do by time in between REAL threads. They have also proven to be quite > interesting to read, and I have now realized that t

Re: Number of OT Posts

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
We all read from top down. Please adjust your quoting appropriately. http://wiki.ursine.ca/Best_Online_Quoting_Practices Andrew Myers wrote: > "Cybe R. Wizard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >>> It's >>> getting a little difficult to find the ON topic posts. >>> >>> Mike > >>Three words: filter, f

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:49:11PM -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: >> >> There is also FET (Federal Excise Tax). That's what all the xxx.xx 9/10 >> comes from. It's a luxury tax (you didn't know that gasoline is a >> luxury?). Just like the one passed in 1906 or thereabouts

Re: OT

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Stephen wrote: > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 07:39:50AM -0600 or thereabouts, Kent West wrote: >> Paul Johnson wrote: >> > Also, go install Outlook Quotefix already if you're going to keep >> > posting. >> > >> > >> >> That re

Re: Number of OT Posts

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Mike McCarty wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> Consider KMail or read the list via a news reader on >> nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user > > Consider posting ON TOPIC. I'm not particularly off topic. Try reading the list description. --

RE: OT

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Julian De Marchi wrote: > On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 19:34 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Respect for posters lowers over time the more they top post. >> http://wiki.ursine.ca/Best_Online_Quoting_Practices >> >> Julian De Marchi wrote: >> >> > Ubuntu is m

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Stephen wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 09:34:12AM -0600 or thereabouts, Kent West wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >> >But coal is less oogey-boogey scary [than nuclear]. >> > >> >Besides, the power (a *LOT* of power) has to come from *somewhere*, >> >on a *large* industrial scale. Especially over

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> Wouldn't this all be much more easily and quickly accomplished if we made >> the children of politicians automatic first round draft picks regardless >> of situation, or make the draft only apply to politician's children? >> >> > > in that same vein, I think us c

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/26/07 09:34, Kent West wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >>> But coal is less oogey-boogey scary [than nuclear]. >>> >>> Besides, the power (a *LOT* of power) has to come from *somewhere*, >>> on a *large* industrial scale. Especially over in China, where coal >>> and auto p

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Lamb wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> The "answer" is to make more wind farms. > >> Winds usually blow during the day, and that's when electricity >> demand is highest. Thus, (enough) wind farms would help smooth out >> the need for peak loads from nuke- or non-renewable generating plants. >

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Greg Folkert wrote: > On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 14:18 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> I would argue that anything larger than a pickup truck is not an offroad >> vehicle regardless of marketing. A Ford Excursion and all Hummer models >> fail to qualify as offroad vehicles for t

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/26/07 16:11, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:16:06PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: >>>> That explains one of the reasons that p

Re: OT

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Mike McCarty wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: >> Julian De Marchi wrote: >> >>>I use ms outlook at work, cause I am locked down to use it. >> >> >> That doesn't make it a good idea to use it, it *does* make it a good idea >> to encourage cowor

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Mike McCarty wrote: > NEVER believe a politician when he says that a tax is "temporary". Never believe people who forget politicians work for us, not the other way around. Multnomah County, Oregon just ended a 1% 3-year temporary income tax that was instated 3 years ago. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > Alcee Hastings? Didn't he get impeached for taking bribes, and only avoid conviction because his chrony took the fifth amendment to save his own ass? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 09:53:31AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> >> in that same vein, I think us congressional representatives should be >> paid the mean income for their district :-P >> >> A > > I'm guessing that you meant median when you said mean. The m

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Lamb wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: >> I think you're lumping extremists and all Democrats together, which isn't >> particularly fair to either group. > > Why not? That implies there really is a difference. There is. Democrats have had a strangleho

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Francis Healy wrote: > As for trans fats, it seems that its not a giant deal to replace them with > oils that are better for people.  I understand the reason they were used > in the first place was to make various kinds of foods easier to mass > produce.  Why not use a little skill and make foods

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:39:40PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: >> Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> > Do you have a proposal for solving that problem? >> >> Going back to a limited federal government as the founding fathers >> envisioned? Returning the states' voice in

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:38:59AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> Name five American national-level politicians in your lifetime that had >> moral fortitude. You can't get that far in US politics without being a >> scumbag. >&g

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:00:09PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >> > Ask a pro-lifer whether she'd euthanize a pregnant cat. >> >> > Then you'll know when she *really* thinks life begins. >> >> They'll hedge it by saying that a cat is not huma

Re: Download cd-iso images

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Emile van der Merwe wrote: > I'm new to the linux environment, but would like to try it out for myself. > I want to download the cd-iso images, but wanted to know if I have to > download all 14 iso images under i386 directory? You might want to start by reading the Debian CD Image page as this is

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:41:02AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Joe Hart wrote: >> >> > It's not much better anywhere in Europe. That's why most people drive >> > small cars. >> >> That's why I drive a sma

Re: OT

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
John - wrote: > So give us a break, and instead of political drivel, get back to your > usual smart and insightful comments about Debian?  Please? This is a function of your mail reader. Check your documentation for "ignore thread." If your MUA doesn't have this feature, you might want to look

Re: gigabit nic

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Chris Parker wrote: > What recommendations for a gigabit nic on a dell power edge 2400? It is > going to be used as a network analysis box. Intel's gigabit NICs are well supported and Intel themselves tests their boards on Linux, so that's probably you're best bet. Dell's gigabit ethernet adapt

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/25/07 16:25, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 04:20:21PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> No, you're a wimp for not having them hike from the car-drivable >>> road to the campsite. >>> >>> ;) >>> >> Oh. Right. We have done that when possible. Of cours

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 04:04:45PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 02/25/07 15:43, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> >> >> > Right. I was a scout leader for a couple of years. While *in some >> > places* hiking works, lots of places are simply to far from any decent >> > c

Re: Number of OT Posts

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Mike McCarty wrote: > >> I'm as loathe >> as anyone to stifle any impetus to communicate here, but I'm >> beginning to wonder whether the amount of posting on religion/ >> atheism, the price of gasoline, abortion, politics in general, >> and other such topics isn't

Re: Number of OT Posts

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Mike McCarty wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> >> On 02/26/07 16:57, Mike McCarty wrote: > > [snip] > >>>and other such topics isn't beginning to make the S/N ratio bad. It's >>>getting a little difficult to find the ON topic posts. >> >> Mozilla won't (AFAICT) let you ignore threads, but it will

Re: smtp time spam filtering

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
David Hart wrote: > On Sat 2007-02-24 21:03:11 -0500 Greg Folkert wrote: >> On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 23:24 +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: >> > > > On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 03:33:00PM +, David Hart wrote: >> > > > > I must be missing something here. In order to scan an email you >> > > > > m

Re: Subscribing to bugs

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 12:51:23PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> After looking through the documentation on bugs.debian.org, I'm left >> wondering if it's possible to get copies of all mail on a particular bug >> report sent.  For som

Re: Number of OT Posts

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Mike McCarty wrote: > I joined here in order to learn a little bit better how to help > my girlfriend administer her Debian machine, especially since > I'm the one who recommended that she use Debian. I'm as loathe > as anyone to stifle any impetus to communicate here, but I'm > beginning to wonde

RE: OT

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Respect for posters lowers over time the more they top post. http://wiki.ursine.ca/Best_Online_Quoting_Practices Julian De Marchi wrote: > Ubuntu is my Desktop system of choice. It is based on "debian", thus > debian related. All those things are debian related as they run on the > debian system.

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:00:43 -0500, Roberto wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:38:59AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> > >> > Name five American national-level politicians in your lifetime that &

Re: OT

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 07:38:35PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > >> Some folks around here consider myself, Ron, Paul, Andrew and some of > -^^ > > dude, thanks! I score geek cred! yes! So far this week

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/26/07 17:14, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:08:02PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> On 02/26/07 14:57, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >>> >>> This has always confused me: Who does *not* know that the

Re: OT

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Greg Folkert wrote: >> Hey. That's a neet trick. Can you tell me how many posts I have? I >> started posting in late 2002, though with a different email address. > > http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Alists.debian.org+roberto%40connexer.com > > This is just a big time guess, 2130 is the nu

Re: Number of OT Posts

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/26/07 17:26, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: >> Mike McCarty wrote: >> >>> I'm as loathe >>> as anyone to stifle any impetus to communicate here, but I'm >>> beginning to wonder whether the amount of posting on religion/

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > If it's "wife & fetus will die" vs. "fetus will die", you damned > well know who I'm carrying, kicking and screaming, into the > operating room. Refreshing to hear that "in sickness and in health, until death do us part" is considered a challenge instead of a threat to some p

Re: Number of OT Posts

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/26/07 17:31, Mike McCarty wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >>> >>> On 02/26/07 16:57, Mike McCarty wrote: >> >> [snip] >> and other such topics isn't beginning to make the S/N ratio bad. It's getting a little d

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/26/07 16:00, Steve Lamb wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >>> Ask a pro-lifer whether she'd euthanize a pregnant cat. >> >>> Then you'll know when she *really* thinks life begins. >> >> They'll hedge it by saying that a cat is not human. >> >> No, the real question

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Niels Rasmussen wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> IRC? > > Thanks, I'm out of here, bye! Good luck getting good answers out of them without babysitting the channel for hours at a time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:47:19AM +, Chris Lale wrote: >> Steve Lamb wrote: >> > >> > Given the choice of "Americans" or "Brits" answer these questions. >> > >> >> "Torch" is the shortened form of "electric torch" (provides continuous >> light, not flashes).

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:38:41AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> >> > ..aye, but how many of us on the western side could know for sure >> > before Russia Left the SU?  Or even on the eastern side? >> >

RE: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
If you want to be taken seriously, don't top post. http://wiki.ursine.ca/Best_Online_Quoting_Practices Julian De Marchi wrote: > How about just talk about debian on a debian list. > > Is that to hard? Read the list topic statement. It's about users and help, not necessarily one or the other.

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Carl Johnson wrote: > Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Michael Pobega wrote: >> >> Please don't start talking about gas prices. It makes me think about >> >> how much we get ripped off at the pumps. Current price is 1.40 Euro >> >> per >> >> liter. Do the math: 1.3 Euro = 1 Dollar.

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:16:06PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: >> >> That explains one of the reasons that public transportation is much >> better here, although in New York City, public transportation is also >> readily available (unless it is raining :) ) >> > Public tra

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > I don't think it is prudent to excuse people from anti-social > behaviour just because they are > smarter/more-knowledgeable/otherwise-better than the average > bear. Where do I rank? :o) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsu

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Michael Pobega wrote: > >> >> Off-topic from an off-topic thread? What an oxymoron. >> >> And yeah, teachers always say that we'll be switching to the metric >> system but it will never happen. I'm still in high school and my >> economics teacher says that all of

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Joe Hart wrote: > Well, they did change their monetary system, so normal people could count > money. Please don't do it to the clock. It's bad enough that Hitler shot himself in the head in '45 ending the rational justification for daylight savings time now without having to figure out what 72

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/25/07 17:37, Joe Hart wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >>> On 02/25/07 16:55, Joe Hart wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/25/07 16:04, John K Masters wrote: >> On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:40:57 +0200 Andrei Popescu >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Sun, 25

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Nigel Henry wrote: > Goodness knows what someone trawling the archives looking for > answers will think. Better than you. Google has this remarkable way of going directly to the answer whenever I search Google with the keyword "site:lists.debian.org" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTE

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Tyler MacDonald wrote: > Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Who gives a shit about politics, and what the hell has it it got to do >> > with the debian mailing list??? >> It's the Debian *USER* list, not the *DEBIAN* User list. As has been >> discussed several times every time a long

Re: We need an off-topic list (was Re: REALLY OT: News Flash)

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Tyler MacDonald wrote: > However, this proves the value of having a designated OT list signficantly > guys: Here is someone subscribed to the very mailing list that supposed to > help him learn more about debian, who is currently powerless to avoid the > OT spam that's coming along with it (and cu

Re: acronyms (was Re: REALLY OT:...)

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > dict-gazetteer > dict-gazetteer2k Is there a compelling reason to install both the 1990 and 2000 version of the same data? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: We need an off-topic list (was Re: REALLY OT: News Flash)

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 13:34 -0800, Tyler MacDonald wrote: >> IANADD, but I would like to see something get going with this soon... >> what >> is the procedure? Does a debian developer "sponsor" the mailing list? Is >> there some sort of vote that has to happen? > > See

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Lamb wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: >> Steve Lamb wrote: > >>> Paul Johnson wrote: >>>> I think that has more to do with Opera marginalizing themselves by >>>> expecting people to put up with *more* ads or pay for a web browser. >>> Th

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Stephen R Laniel wrote: > On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 11:03:59AM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> Please quit top posting. > > Here is a script that I banged out in a few minutes, which > surely needs much improvement but will hopefully go some way > toward making the top-posting "debate" -- which

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