Re: How to verify install iso?

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 12:14 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 12/13/13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > How can I verify that the debian-7.2.0-i386-netinst.iso is ok? > > > > http://www.debian.org/CD/verify.en.html > > http://www.debian.org/CD/verify.de.html > > Try

How to verify install iso?

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
How can I verify that the debian-7.2.0-i386-netinst.iso is ok? http://www.debian.org/CD/verify.en.html http://www.debian.org/CD/verify.de.html I neither understand the English nor the German explanation. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a su

Re: Hardware Question about RAM and Capacitors

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I would replace all capacitors in that area, not only the leaking. The others will leak soon too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1386894222.688.70.cam

Re: Hardware Question about RAM and Capacitors

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
The photos are not that good but I guess the capacitors are broken, they seem to leak. Are some caps curved? It's unlikely that there would be flux. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Arc

Re: Hardware Question about RAM and Capacitors

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 15:45 -0500, Doug wrote: > On 12/12/2013 02:11 PM, Goren Buckwalk wrote: > > [snip] rusty looking coating on the top. > > > > [snip] > > > > Are three rusty capacitors and 3 bad slots just a coincidence? Thanks. > > > > > As a subscriber to various electronics lists, I can tel

Re: Having weird seqfaults

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 12:28 -0800, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 01:21:21PM -0500, Goren Buckwalk wrote: > > I have let it run over night, it is still going, but no errors so > far. Would memtest restart if it seg faulted midway through? Or just > sit there not doing anything or di

Re: Backported Kernel - install question

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 21:32 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 23:03 +0400, Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 00:17:02 +0530 > > Kailash Kalyani wrote: > > > > > My understanding is that it should be possible to install

Re: Backported Kernel - install question

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 23:03 +0400, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 00:17:02 +0530 > Kailash Kalyani wrote: > > > My understanding is that it should be possible to install backports > > without breaking a stable install. What am I missing? > > Sure, it is possible. You're just using

Re: Reporting missing package during install

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 22:14 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > 'sudo sh' is as easy on finger (no shift) and do not feel as bad. Doesn't it have any side-effects? I wonder about the prompt of an Arch Linux install. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ ls -l /bin/sh lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Aug 25 14:06 /bin/sh

Re: Shutdown computer after a specific command has been executed

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 16:21 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 19:17 +0400, Reco wrote: > > Still, if one has desire to blow legs off: > > :D > > > sudo sh -c "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y ; poweroff" > > but I would reco

Re: Shutdown computer after a specific command has been executed

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 19:17 +0400, Reco wrote: > Still, if one has desire to blow legs off: :D > sudo sh -c "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y ; poweroff" but I would recommend sudo sh -c "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -y ; poweroff" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ.

Re: Shutdown computer after a specific command has been executed

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 16:10 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > sudo sh -c "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -y ; poweroff" sudo sh -c "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade --dry-run ; apt-get dist-upgrade -y ; poweroff" -y without a dry run :S, OTOH, t

Re: Shutdown computer after a specific command has been executed

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 18:57 +0400, Reco wrote: > sudo sh -c "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y && poweroff" > > That's more like it. Depending on a hardware, 'shutdown -h now' can > leave the power on. :D We are close to solve it :D. && apt-get upgrade -y && poweroff ^^^

Re: Shutdown computer after a specific command has been executed

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 15:33 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > Sorry, it may ask if it has to preserve or not a configuration file > modified locally when a new version arrives with the package. Good point, I don't use apt that often, because my "main" distro isn't Debian. I guess there's an option

Re: How to install Packages on Debian-Wheezy

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 01:29 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 13/12/13 00:59, Wally Lepore wrote: > > http://www.aboutdebian.com/packages.htm > > Wow! What a... site :/ For newbies it's hard to search for information about Linux, because they don't know the terms, as long as they don't know the s

Re: Shutdown computer after a specific command has been executed

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 14:58 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > Osamu Aoki writes: > > But I want one line solution :-) > > > > sudo sh -c "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade; shutdown -h now" > > But there is the case where apt-get want a reply for the user and that > is 'N' :) !! Baka!!! :) a

OT: sudo security Was: Reporting missing package during install

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 10:40 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > sudo date 2101 > > and feel younger ;) That's a shoddy trick. I always wonder about that man: "Foreman said he had no plans to resume his career as a boxer, but then announced in February 2004 that he was training for one more com

Re: Maximum RAM

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 19:42 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > I wrote: > > Why do so many people, with 64-bit architecture prefer 32-bit > > operating systems? > > > > > Perhaps because 64-bit gives their use case brings disadvantage but no > advantages? Perhaps for other reasons. To assume that you

Re: Maximum RAM

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 03:29 -0500, PaulNM wrote: > All Microsoft 32-bit consumer OS's are limited to 4GB RAM, if not > less. IIRC 3.75 GiB, we already made the mistake and used the term GB instead of GiB ;). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "u

Re: Maximum RAM

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 18:49 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 12/12/13 18:24, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Ethan, still HTML, really ;)? > > > > On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 01:42 -0500, erosenb...@hygeiabiomedical.com > > wrote: > >> Are there any command line stateme

Re: Maximum RAM

2013-12-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-12-11 at 23:11 -0800, David Guntner wrote: > > On 12/12/13 17:42, erosenb...@hygeiabiomedical.com wrote: > >> pae kernel This ^ > What am I missing here? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact

Re: Maximum RAM

2013-12-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Ethan, still HTML, really ;)? On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 01:42 -0500, erosenb...@hygeiabiomedical.com wrote: > Are there any command line statement(s) that will enable the system to > use more than 4 GB of RAM? Only when you compile a 32-bit architecture kernel, then you can enable it by echo "CONFIG

Re: Xfce config question

2013-12-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 17:28 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 12/12/13, Paul E Condon wrote: > > I want to configure the clock display in Wheezy-Xfce to display > > date and time of day combined and in an arrangement that is like > > this > > 20120123 213703 > > i.e. > > MMDD HHMMSS > ... > >

Re: Xfce config question

2013-12-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 09:53 +0700, Diep Pham Van wrote: > Orage Panel Clock What's bad with using the Xfce default clock and to chose "Custom Format"? And then, as I already mentioned http://lists.debian.org/1386831679.1257.173.camel@archlinux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@l

Re: Xfce config question

2013-12-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
%Y%m%d %H%M%S Take a look at $ man date ;). The panel clock does use the same format. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1386831679.1257.173.camel@archli

Re: sudo security Was: Reporting missing package during install

2013-12-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
http://www.paritynews.com/2013/03/05/762/sudo-authentication-bypass-vulnerability-emerges/ But note! The Chaos Computer Club does publish howtos using sudo on Linux: http://muc.ccc.de/uberbus:ubd I don't think the Chaos Computer Club folks would write a howto using sudo, if sudo would be a securi

Re: VirtualBox kernel mod compile fails

2013-12-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
PS: But I have all kinds of kernel releases installed, very old kernels latest kernel, with and without rt patch and dkms always builds the modules. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Arc

Re: VirtualBox kernel mod compile fails

2013-12-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 01:24 +0400, Reco wrote: > https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/10/6/317 Then I only but always had good luck. Because I share a VDI by different Linux distros installed on the same machine, I also don't upgrade VBox that often. One of several distros: warning: virtualbox: ignoring pa

Re: VirtualBox kernel mod compile fails

2013-12-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 00:37 +0400, Reco wrote: > Hi again. > > On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 14:31:54 -0600 > Kent West wrote: > > > Setting up virtualbox-dkms (4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u1) ... > … > > Building only for 3.11-0.bpo.2-amd64 > > You use backported kernel, but stock VirtualBox kernel module source

Re: VirtualBox kernel mod compile fails

2013-12-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-12-11 at 14:31 -0600, Kent West wrote: > error: ‘VM_RESERVED’ undeclared (first use in this function) https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=53126 Likely a Debian related issue. I would use VirtualBox from https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads Regards, Ralf -

Re: sudo security Was: Reporting missing package during install

2013-12-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-12-11 at 15:33 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > > You need to inform yourself, to know that there's a callback for > > the danger to life baby bottle. > > Ouch, InsufficentEnglishSkillException! Could you help me please :) Assumed a baby bottle does poison the milk, because the

Re: sudo security Was: Reporting missing package during install

2013-12-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-12-11 at 14:07 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > It happens that appliances are called back by manufacturers due safety > issues. Debian and other distros provide security updates _and_ much more important, analog to a product callback, homepages with news about the distro. You need t

Re: sudo security Was: Reporting missing package during install

2013-12-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-12-11 at 09:39 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > Let's suppose that Debian+Ubuntu get the largest share of the > installed end user desktops. The tendency is that seemingly newbies start using pre-build Linux environments and use Linux as they would use Windows, IOW without self-respo

Re: sudo security Was: Reporting missing package during install

2013-12-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
ckup strategy below. Only one time in my life I lost a little bit, because I made a mistake, not because there was an attack. I mounted a partition read/write instead of read only. > > > On 10/dic/2013, at 21:54, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > >> On Di, 2013-12-10 at 17:56 +

Re: sudo security Was: Reporting missing package during install

2013-12-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Di, 2013-12-10 at 21:44 +, Brian wrote: > On Tue 10 Dec 2013 at 15:32:57 -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > > I was guessing that it refered to Display 0:0 of the X server as the > > discussion centered on running X as root at one point. > > May I withdraw my "More than likely"? There has to

Re: sudo security Was: Reporting missing package during install

2013-12-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Di, 2013-12-10 at 19:46 +, Brian wrote: > The English is fine but I wish I understood the implications of 0:0. root:root? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://list

Re: sudo security Was: Reporting missing package during install

2013-12-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Di, 2013-12-10 at 17:56 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > I would not trust backups as an absolute safety You don't trust backups? Why? Regards, Ralf PS: I make complete backups, IOW I backup everything, don't sync, but make complete new backups nearly daily. At the end of a month I delete so

Re: Some objections (was Re: Package Request)

2013-12-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Di, 2013-12-10 at 17:08 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > But is damn slow A GUI editor used with mouse is slow? Neither a GUI is slow, nor usage of a good mouse. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@li

Re: Some objections (was Re: Package Request)

2013-12-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-12-11 at 04:36 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > Try typing with one hand. No big deal for a guitarist. It's similar to a index finger barré followed by something similar to a C like non-barré. But that's exactly the point, wasting brain capacity with tons of non-intuitive short cuts a

Re: libdrm-nouveau2/libdrm-radeon1 installed as requirement to libgl1-mesa-dri

2013-12-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-12-11 at 01:54 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Dec 07, 2013 at 08:06:42PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > Sometimes there are insane hard dependencies, but what's bad with those ^^^ &g

Re: (SOLVED) Re: gdm3 issue

2013-12-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-10 at 17:31 +0530, Kailash Kalyani wrote: > The solution that worked for me was to run check the > debian boot partition with gparted (e2fsck -cfkp). While I did not note > any addition bad sectors, etc. the issue seems to have been resolved. I didn't think of it, but (somebody e

Re: sudo security Was: Reporting missing package during install

2013-12-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-10 at 12:08 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > Or not, at least until someone else wants your cpu-power, and in that > case you could find yourself left with no other option that "cutting > the cables" and reinstall. It's not CPU power I would notice or that would cause issues. Many

Re: XFCE large cursors - still small when over xterm

2013-12-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-10 at 21:04 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > I have chosen the black (with white border) cursor scheme, with 48 > point cursor size. See: > Settings -> Mouse and Touchpad -> Cursor size > > The cursor is mostly satisfactory, including over xfce4-terminal, except: > > When the curso

sudo security Was: Reporting missing package during install

2013-12-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-10 at 08:47 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > Ralf Mardorf writes: > > I know they hack servers, but was the Linux home PC of anybody on this > > list ever hacked? > > How could you detect? Are you sure you have the skills to detect this? It's possib

Re: gdm3 issue

2013-12-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-10 at 02:25 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 19:08 +, Tom H wrote: > > The Ubuntu-created grub.cfg cannot be blamed for a GDM problem. If GDM > > is being launched, grub's job has been done many seconds ago. > > This seems to be true

Re: Shutting down lessens computer life............

2013-12-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 20:58 +, Ron Leach wrote: > That was a serious problem with older > Ni-Cad batteries; this and most modern laptops use Ni-MH or Lithium > batteries and, so far, I have not heard that either of those have > problems with recharge cycles. All batteries fail after a while

Re: Shutting down lessens computer life............

2013-12-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-10 at 07:41 +1100, Charlie wrote: > On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 15:27:15 +0100 Gian Uberto Lauri sent: > > > I know that shutting down the machine saves electricity, but heating > > and cooling is the mechanical stress that hits the non-moving > > components of your computer, computer that

Re: gdm3 issue

2013-12-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 19:08 +, Tom H wrote: > The Ubuntu-created grub.cfg cannot be blamed for a GDM problem. If GDM > is being launched, grub's job has been done many seconds ago. This seems to be true here, but you're mistaken, a boot option could still cause something when a DE session alre

Re: Reporting missing package during install

2013-12-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 18:13 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > Think about this scenario: someone devises a clever way to slip a > Trojan in a user account. Than the trojan has got user privileges only. If it's a key logger it can read what password you type for sudo, but also what you type for su.

Re: gdm3 issue

2013-12-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
menuentry 'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.2.0-4-686-pae' --class debian --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os { load_video insmod gzio insmod part_msdos insmod ext2 set root='(hd1,msdos3)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root ddea8c2f-f4b3-4c3

Re: Re: Shutdown computer after a specific command has been executed

2013-12-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 20:03 +0600, Muntasim-Ul-Haque wrote: > Thanks Lars, Mardorf, Ashmore, Lauri and Jorgensen for your advice. I > needed it badly and your advice showed me the way. Thanks a lot. > To Jorgensen: I'm a Broadband Internet user and I'm billed for the time > my Internet connection

Re: gdm3 issue

2013-12-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 19:25 +0530, Kailash Kalyani wrote: > Thanks, I tried that using update-grub2 from my Debian install. That > did not resolve the issue :( JFTR did you install GRUB by Debian. If not, at least copy the /boot/grub/grub.cfg to the Ubuntu install. > I think it's a PAM issue with

Re: Shutdown computer after a specific command has been executed

2013-12-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 15:34 +0200, Lars Noodén wrote: > On 12/09/2013 03:30 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 14:48 +0200, Lars Noodén wrote: > >> If you want it shut down regardless of the outcome of apt, then this > >> should do it: > >> >

Re: Shutdown computer after a specific command has been executed

2013-12-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 14:48 +0200, Lars Noodén wrote: > If you want it shut down regardless of the outcome of apt, then this > should do it: > > sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo shutdown -h now Wrong, if the upgrade should take to long, then you need to type the password after the upgrade. Bett

Re: Shutdown computer after a specific command has been executed

2013-12-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 14:10 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > If you execute as root (better than using sudo) you can > either issue from the # prompt Andrei already pointed out on another thread how to use sudo and I repeated it for this thread. You can configure su to have a timeout too, but s

Re: Shutdown computer after a specific command has been executed

2013-12-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 14:16 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 13:11 +, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > > Hi > > > > On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 05:42:17PM +0600, Muntasim-Ul-Haque wrote: > > > Hi, > > > I need a tool that would make sure that, my

Re: Shutdown computer after a specific command has been executed

2013-12-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 13:11 +, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > Hi > > On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 05:42:17PM +0600, Muntasim-Ul-Haque wrote: > > Hi, > > I need a tool that would make sure that, my computer would shutdown after a > > specific command has been executed. This tool would just wait for the

Re: Shutdown computer after a specific command has been executed

2013-12-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 13:02 +, Philip Ashmore wrote: > but I think sudo has a timeout sudo -i and then run a script, if you not explicitly configured it to have a timeout it has got no timeout. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe

Re: Shutdown computer after a specific command has been executed

2013-12-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 17:42 +0600, Muntasim-Ul-Haque wrote: > Hi, > I need a tool that would make sure that, my computer would shutdown > after a specific command has been executed. This tool would just wait > for the Terminal for executing a command, like 'sudo apt-get upgrade' > and then after th

Re: gdm3 issue

2013-12-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 15:15 +0530, Kailash Kalyani wrote: > The issue started when I removed old linux images from Ubuntu which is > on another partition. That resulted in a grub update from ubuntu and > since then I've had this issue. So the answer already seems to be there. Ubuntu did likely au

Re: Don't blame yourself. Re: Won't complete bootup (gdm3 problem?)

2013-12-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-12-08 at 19:52 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2013-12-08 at 18:42 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > .xinitrc > > ~/.xinitrc could be ignored, regarding to other ways to automatically > start X, a WM or DE. Using ~/.xinitrc is just one way to do it. ^^^

Re: Don't blame yourself. Re: Won't complete bootup (gdm3 problem?)

2013-12-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-12-08 at 18:42 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > .xinitrc ~/.xinitrc could be ignored, regarding to other ways to automatically start X, a WM or DE. Using ~/.xinitrc is just one way to do it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscri

:D: How do I get rid of the "launchpad" in XFCE?

2013-12-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
> The Bohr model of the atom is just as dead as Niels Bohr. Full ACK :). I mentioned this already > 20 years ago when I visited school. I used it as an analogy, because people should be careful, just because something does work for some tasks, doesn't mean that it's consistent, logically, working

Re: gxtuner does not work

2013-12-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-12-07 at 20:27 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2013-12-07 at 11:16 -0800, Serkan KURT wrote: > > Hi. > > How can I use the gxtuner on Debian Jessie (KDE)? > > > > > > Konsole output : > > > > ~$ gxtuner > > connection to

Re: gxtuner does not work

2013-12-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-12-07 at 11:16 -0800, Serkan KURT wrote: > Hi. > How can I use the gxtuner on Debian Jessie (KDE)? > > > Konsole output : > > ~$ gxtuner > connection to jack failed, . . exit How do you run jackd? Is pulseaudio disabled or enabled? What output do you get for jackd? -- To UNSUB

Re: libdrm-nouveau2/libdrm-radeon1 installed as requirement to libgl1-mesa-dri

2013-12-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-12-07 at 18:06 +0200, Ivan Kovnatsky wrote: > libgl1-mesa-dri http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libgl1-mesa-dr That are hard dependencies, you could take a look if you could recompile it without the unneeded parts, or test if a dummy package shouldn't break it. Sometimes there are in

Re: How do I get rid of the "launchpad" in XFCE?

2013-12-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-12-07 at 18:28 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2013-12-08 at 04:33 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 09:03:33PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 15:20 -0200, André Nunes Batista wrote: > > > > Panel 0 and

Re: How do I get rid of the "launchpad" in XFCE?

2013-12-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-12-08 at 04:33 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 09:03:33PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 15:20 -0200, André Nunes Batista wrote: > > > Panel 0 and Panel 1 were such an cool way to teach gui users to count. > > &

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-12-07 at 20:15 +0530, AP wrote: > And this is necessary if Linux is made to be used in every home like > earlier Windows was being used! Linux isn't an opponent to other OSes. It's an alternative with advantages and drawbacks and it needs knowledge about our individual needs for ourse

Re: How do I get rid of the "launchpad" in XFCE?

2013-12-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-12-07 at 15:35 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > This is a list about computers. > > So counting does mean for a real life computer application, that > something existing is equal to zero? E.g. panel is logical reasoning? E.g. panel 0 is logical reasoning? Sorry

Re: How do I get rid of the "launchpad" in XFCE?

2013-12-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
> This is a list about computers. So counting does mean for a real life computer application, that something existing is equal to zero? E.g. panel is logical reasoning? You are not able to understand logic. For a distance the initial value should be zero, for counting, it's common to start with

Re: How do I get rid of the "launchpad" in XFCE?

2013-12-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-12-07 at 08:52 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 12/7/2013 4:53 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 20:33 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > >> On 12/6/2013 5:23 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > >>> André Nunes Batista wrote: > >>>> BTW,

Re: Package Request

2013-12-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-12-07 at 07:57 -0500, Tom H wrote: > On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: > > On Sat, 2013-12-07 at 07:24 -0500, Jeff Bauer wrote: > >> On 12/07/2013 05:55 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >>> > >>> Reading the whole thread i

Re: Package Request

2013-12-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-12-07 at 07:24 -0500, Jeff Bauer wrote: > On 12/07/2013 05:55 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Reading the whole thread is impotent > > heh If something should be unclear, rephrase your request, assumed it's not a statement and reply to d-community-offto...@lists.al

Re: Package Request

2013-12-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-12-07 at 11:55 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Evidence: http://linuxaudio.org/mailarchive/lad/2013/9/20/202040 Too nice that there is for sure not only this evidence for the licensing issues on open mailing lists, other than for my claim regarding to GTK, to post private messages

Re: Package Request

2013-12-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-12-07 at 10:22 +, Brian wrote: > On Sat 07 Dec 2013 at 01:19:45 -0600, John James Ammerman wrote: > > > What email would I use to suggest an addition of packages to the Debian > > repo? > > > > If this is correct address then: > > > > http://www.python.org/about/success/mmtk/ >

Re: How do I get rid of the "launchpad" in XFCE?

2013-12-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 20:33 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 12/6/2013 5:23 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > > André Nunes Batista wrote: > >> BTW, why did they change that? Panel 0 and Panel 1 were such an cool way > >> to teach gui users to count. > > > > Hmm... I disagree. Counting and indexing are two

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 14:04 -0800, Gary Roach wrote: > After reading through this topic I find myself ask what happened to KDE. > I know its old and is probably bloated. But, with 500 GB of disk space, > 4GB of RAM and a 4 processor CPU, who cares. Its solid. I like it and > have never liked Gno

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 19:13 -0200, André Nunes Batista wrote: > On Tue, 2013-11-26 at 16:58 -0500, Doug wrote: > > Maybe I have it wrong--I refer to having to install knowing a priori the > > name of the package you want to install. And I have _never_ had a > > problem with Synaptic. Using it for a

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 19:40 +, Joe wrote: > On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 11:54:28 +0100 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > I'm sorry, I can't contribute more to this thread, since I already > > pointed everything out. > > > > OK, that's a good one.

Re: How do I get rid of the "launchpad" in XFCE?

2013-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 15:20 -0200, André Nunes Batista wrote: > Panel 0 and Panel 1 were such an cool way to teach gui users to count. The saner style is to call the first panel "panel one" instead of "panel zero". To name it "panel zero" even won't teach anything about logical issues about indexat

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 17:19 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > That does not mean that I am against graphic output. Ralf's sound > samples and my graphs and icons are graphical objects. With you can > have several terminals and copy and paste text among each other. > > What I don't like is the posit

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 11:54 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > Ralf Mardorf writes: > > On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:02AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > GTK is a PITA and will always cause similar warnings,

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:26 +0400, Reco wrote: > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 12:17:20PM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Vi, 06 dec 13, 11:12:37, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote: > > > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 11:36 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:23 +0400, Reco wrote: > > I just stay clear of anything that's linked against > > libgconf.so. > > The real issues are caused by libdconf, libgconf is quasi obsolet. I > already mu

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 12:17 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 06 dec 13, 11:12:37, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:02AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > > > Very likely that >

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote: > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:02AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > GTK is a PITA and will always cause similar warnings, > > I disagree. My .xsession-errors does not contain similar warnings. What DE do you use? It's new to

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 10:35 +0100, François Patte wrote: > Le 06/12/2013 09:51, Reco a écrit : > > Hi. > > > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 09:39:03AM +0100, François Patte wrote: > >> It could a nice choice, but there are many things to fix! I made the > >> choice of xfce at my wheezy install and as I

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 12:51 +0400, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 09:39:03AM +0100, François Patte wrote: > > It could a nice choice, but there are many things to fix! I made the > > choice of xfce at my wheezy install and as I use terminals and cli to > > launch my stuff, there are

Re: How do I get rid of the "launchpad" in XFCE?

2013-12-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 17:47 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote: > Hmm. Well, when I right-click on it, I get a pop-up menu with a title > of "launcher". That's why I mentioned $ xfce4-settings-manager instead of a click, OTOH "panel" is always mentioned by the right-click, but easy to miss. -- To UN

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 18:24 -0500, Bo Lan wrote: > I am still a new user, and don't know if we can report a bug to Debian > to say that, GNOME SHELL or Foo Desktop Environment is not usable under > 2D free video card driver or such. Actually, I hope Debian can patch > those DE, free drivers, and so

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 17:13 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 17:01:37 -0500 (EST), Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > All GTK dependent DEs have their drawbacks. Xfce still is and will be my > > DE for a while, but I'm already testing Razor-Qt. It's not t

Re: How do I get rid of the "launchpad" in XFCE?

2013-12-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
It's called panel. $ xfce4-settings-manager -> Panel -> Chose the wanted panel, the selected is marked -> push the minus button to remove it -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 16:46 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote: > Well, the latest update to Debian jessie did it. GNOME 3 apparently > no longer has a "fallback mode" for X drivers which don't support 3D > acceleration. Mine doesn't. And the native GNOME 3 interface is > apparently unusable with such

Re: How to use logrotate postrotate *bash* script

2013-12-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 17:03 +, Darac Marjal wrote: > Just a thought, how about making your postrotate command be "/bin/bash > /path/to/myscript.sh"? This was already mentioned, resp. the shebang would work, if the script is called by simply path/myscript.sh, IOW without a leading sh, which usu

Re: How to use logrotate postrotate *bash* script

2013-12-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 10:44 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 10:43 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 10:31 +0100, Steffen Dettmer wrote: > > > logrotate seems to execute "postrotate" scripts using /bin/sh and I > > > found

Re: How to use logrotate postrotate *bash* script

2013-12-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 10:43 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 10:31 +0100, Steffen Dettmer wrote: > > logrotate seems to execute "postrotate" scripts using /bin/sh and I > > found no way where to specify which script interpreter to use. > > Starti

Re: How to use logrotate postrotate *bash* script

2013-12-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 10:31 +0100, Steffen Dettmer wrote: > logrotate seems to execute "postrotate" scripts using /bin/sh and I > found no way where to specify which script interpreter to use. > Starting with a she-bang line seem to have no effect. Even if I > manually run logrotate as root who has

Re: Remove root access from folder/directory

2013-12-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 17:28 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 05/12/13 17:01, Muntasim-Ul-Haque wrote: > > Hi, > > I've unzipped a folder and it became root protected. The folder icon is > > showing a lock sign. Now that, I cannot copy/move this folder in any > > other place. What can I do now? How

My apologies

2013-12-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
no doubt about it, many of my mails were unneeded, but the most mails for "the thread", some from me, many from others, were absolutely ok. If I should write again too much off-topic, please send me a note off-list. If a newbie does ask something that is not Debian related enough for your taste, p

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