0.7.46 changelog: Change /run/network ownership to root:netdev.

2013-11-30 Thread Regid Ichira
Sent this message to ifupdown@packages.d.o a few days ago. So far, I didn't get a reply. Perhaps I should have asked the list prior to asking the maintainer. Package: ifupdown Version: 0.7.46.1 $ zgrep -B3 netdev /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/changelog.gz | \ sed '2,3d' ifupdown

Re: should an end user stick to a kernel with an initrd?

2013-10-09 Thread Regid Ichira
On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 11:08:50PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:28:01PM +0300, Regid Ichira wrote: On Fri, Fri, 27 Sep 2013 13:34:56 -0400, Tom H wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 19:07 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote

Re: should an end user stick to a kernel with an initrd?

2013-09-28 Thread Regid Ichira
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 19:06:43 -0400, Tom H wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Regid Ichira regi...@nt1.in wrote: On Fri, Fri, 27 Sep 2013 13:34:56 -0400, Tom H wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 19:07 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote

Re: should an end user stick to a kernel with an initrd?

2013-09-28 Thread Regid Ichira
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 21:29:35 +0900 Joel Rees wrote: On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Regid Ichira regi...@nt1.in wrote: On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 19:06:43 -0400, Tom H wrote: [...] As I said, more or less, in a reply to Ralf, can you guarantee that no other Linux user will have a disk renamed

Re: should an end user stick to a kernel with an initrd?

2013-09-27 Thread Regid Ichira
On Fri, Fri, 27 Sep 2013 13:34:56 -0400, Tom H wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 19:07 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: Traditional device names, such as /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, (and therefore the partitions on those devices, such as /dev/sda1,

DEVTMPFS, DEVTMPFS_MOUNT, custom no initrd kernel, udev 175-7.2 and 204-4

2013-09-26 Thread Regid Ichira
In view of http://bugs.debian.org/722580 and http://bugs.debian.org/722604: A machine with: - a custom, non initrd, linux image - udev 175-7.2 - no DEVTMPFS in the kernel configuration is able to boot. 1. Will the machine boot with CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y # CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT

Re: should an end user stick to a kernel with an initrd?

2013-09-26 Thread Regid Ichira
I deliberately changed the subject of this message because I hope people will also pay attention to my previous message in the thread. At http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/09/msg01150.html, which, I hope, this message will be a follow-up to, Stephen Powell wrote that, in general,

linux's make oldconfig: Save in addition to [N/m/y/?], and ctrl-[C/\] to abort

2013-09-07 Thread Regid Ichira
I find it useful to have the kernel configuration automatically pointing out only the NEW kernel configuration options. Quite often, the kernel's $ make oldconfig takes a long time. In particular, when I am trying to find out more information on the NEW features. The options that I am

Re: linux's make oldconfig: Save in addition to [N/m/y/?], and ctrl-[C/\] to abort

2013-09-07 Thread Regid Ichira
On Sat, Sep 07, 2013 at 07:55:51PM -0400, Tom H wrote: On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Regid Ichira regi...@nt1.in wrote: I find it useful to have the kernel configuration automatically pointing out only the NEW kernel configuration options. Quite often, the kernel's $ make

[ow...@bugs.debian.org: Processed: init files might get unnoticebly deleted]

2013-07-31 Thread Regid Ichira
- Forwarded message from Debian Bug Tracking System ow...@bugs.debian.org - Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 22:54:21 + From: Debian Bug Tracking System ow...@bugs.debian.org To: Regid Ichira regi...@nt1.in CC: pkg-sysvinit-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org, debian-d...@lists.debian.org

How many people had missing bootlogd related files missing after 42 - 43?

2013-07-30 Thread Regid Ichira
After upgarding bootlogd and initscripts 2.88dsf-42 - 2.88dsf-43, and other packages that are built from sysvinit, I found that 1. /etc/init.d/bootlogd 2. /etc/init.d/stop-bootlogd 3. /etc/init.d/stop-bootlogd-single are no longer installed. Looks similar to

Re: bc is not in linux-source debs.Recommended, neither in Documentation/Changes

2013-07-02 Thread Regid Ichira
On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 08:14:40 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: 1. What exactly are you concerned about that we can do something about on the users list? Has bc been dropped from being a default part of the most basic install? bc is priority standard. Doesn't that mean that there are Debian

bc is not in linux-source debs.Recommended, neither in Documentation/Changes

2013-07-01 Thread Regid Ichira
I didn't get response for a similar post on http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2013/06/msg01262.html. Is it because the answers are too obvious? bc, an arbitrary precision calculator language, is a kernel build dependency since a long time ago. Should it be added to: 1. The

What are ddebs, mentioned in less changelog.Debian?

2013-06-18 Thread Regid Ichira
$ zgrep -A5 458-2 /usr/share/doc/less/changelog.Debian.gz less (458-2) unstable; urgency=low * Merge 458-1ubuntu1 - debian/lesspipe{.1}: Make lesspipe treat ddebs the same as it does debs and udebs (LP: #1180013). What are ddebs? I think it is not a

Re: Using equivs to override task-desktop dependency on xserver-xorg-video-all

2013-06-02 Thread Regid Ichira
I am not subscribed to the list. Did I managed to set In-reply-to header? The thread this message belongs to is http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/06/msg00040.html I think Claudius Hubig was right with the observation that task-desktop pulled many packages: As proposed by Andrei

Using equivs to override task-desktop dependency on xserver-xorg-video-all

2013-06-01 Thread Regid Ichira
$ aptitude show xserver-xorg-video-all | grep -A 21 Depends Depends: xserver-xorg-video-apm, xserver-xorg-video-ark, xserver-xorg-video-ati, xserver-xorg-video-chips, xserver-xorg-video-cirrus, xserver-xorg-video-fbdev, xserver-xorg-video-i128,

NXDOMAIN git.debian-maintainers.org

2013-01-29 Thread Regid Ichira
packages.debian.org/source/squeeze/vsftpd is refering http://git.debian-maintainers.org/?p=daniel/vsftpd.git. The reference is in the left column of the page, under the links for vsftpd title ( Debian Source Repository (Git) ). $ host git.debian-maintainers.org Host

var/run and var/lock relative links not being compliant with Policy

2012-12-27 Thread Regid Ichira
Quoting http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=690345#5 In sysvinit (initscripts), we were obliged to revert back to using absolute links for /var/run and /var/lock in this commit: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/sysvinit;a=commitdiff;h=0977997 due

Why lintian overrides shipped in (binary) debs?

2012-12-23 Thread Regid Ichira
Isn't lintian meant to be used at build time? Isn't it a sort of post build depends? In that case, why lintian overrides are shipped in (binary) debs? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Perl: where is the command in system(command -v wget) documented?

2012-10-08 Thread Regid Ichira
I am a perl beginner. I stambled upon a perl line if (system(command -v wget /dev/null 21) == 0) I was able to find perl's documentation for system. But where is the documentation for command? Am I right that that line tests whether wget is installed in the system? How does it do

devscripts:rc-alert: A patch for on the fly selection of curl or wget

2012-10-08 Thread Regid Ichira
package: devscripts Version: 2.12.4 Tags:patch Files: /usr/bin/rc-alert /usr/share/doc/devscripts/README.gz Many devscripts choose on the fly whether to use curl or wget, depending on what is installed. So far rc-alert was using solely wget. The following patches tries to

Why /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh doesn't Required-Start mountnfs-bootclean too?

2012-09-24 Thread Regid Ichira
$ grep Provides /etc/init.d/mountnfs-bootclean.sh # Provides: mountnfs-bootclean $ grep Description /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh # Short-Description: Miscellaneous things to be done during bootup. # Description: Some cleanup. Note, it need to run after

ifupdown's changelog: Try to remove old /etc/network/run even if it's a symlink

2012-09-04 Thread Regid Ichira
$ zgrep 'Try to remove' /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/changelog.gz - Try to remove old /etc/network/run even if it's a symlink. $ ls -l /etc/network/run lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 May 20 20:59 /etc/network/run - /run/network Can I remove /etc/network/run manually? Just

/etc/init.d/bootlogs said to be removed. Still there. Is it a bug?

2012-09-03 Thread Regid Ichira
$ zgrep -A1 'bootlogs init script has been removed' /usr/share/doc/initscripts/changelog.Debian.gz - bootlogs init script has been removed; current logging daemons handle this themselves, making this script redundant. $ $ ls -l /etc/init.d/bootlogs -rwxr-xr-x 1

The Debian Linux Kernel Handbook within a deb

2012-06-23 Thread Regid Ichira
Many (most?) packages with extensive documentation offer a deb so that the documentation will be available locally. Am I right that there is no deb offering the Debian Linux Kernel Handbook? Is it reasonable to file a wishlist bug for that matter? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Why does login_tty(int fd) close fd at the end?

2012-06-05 Thread Regid Ichira
Isn't closing fd at the end makes all the work meaningless? $ man login_tty| grep -A6 'The login_tty() ' The login_tty() function prepares for a login on the tty fd (which may be a real tty device, or the slave of a pseudoter- minal as returned by

New netbase's policy for adding new IANA TCP/UDP assignment

2012-05-20 Thread Regid Ichira
netbase 5.0 changelog states * Starting from this release, TCP/UDP ports will be added only for the actually implemented protocol even if IANA nowadays assigns both. Why is that? Wouldn't it be better to quote exact IANA assignment? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Working with ssh's escape character

2012-04-19 Thread Regid Ichira
I had difficulties getting ssh(1)'s ESCAPE CHARACTERS to be recognized from within a login shell over ssh. In particular, sometimes the escape character was not recognized as such. I was able to find in gmane a similar issue for a Gentoo user from a few years ago. I don't have that gmane URL

Reading from the pipe will see end-of-file when all writing descriptors have been closed

2012-04-06 Thread Regid Ichira
Quoting pipe(7): If all file descriptors referring to the write end of a pipe have been closed, then an attempt to read (2) from the pipe will see end-of-file ( read (2) will return 0). Consider a pipe with 1 reading and 1 writing processes. The reading process was put to sleep

Does find subdir -printf %A\n a bad example which is mentioned in the documentation?

2012-03-28 Thread Regid Ichira
$ zgrep -A3 '%A%p' /usr/share/info/find.info.gz newest=$(find subdir -newer timestamp -printf %A%p\n | sort -n | tail -1 | cut -d: -f2- ) is taken from findutil's (4.4.2-4) documentation. It doesn't work here: $ mkdir

Dropping the if clause in (INITCTL=/run/initctl; if [ $INITCTL ])

2012-02-11 Thread Regid Ichira
Package: sysvinit Version: 2.88dsf-22 $ grep -nA13 ^INITCTL= /var/lib/dpkg/info/sysvinit.postinst 19:INITCTL=/run/initctl 20-case $(uname -s) in 21- *FreeBSD) 22- OLDINITCTL=/etc/.initctl 23- ;; 24- *) 25- OLDINITCTL=/dev/initctl 26- ;; 27-esac 28- 29-# Create /run/initctl if

vsftpd-2.3.5.deb: Can I get the debian source of 2.3.4?

2012-01-19 Thread Regid Ichira
Referring to Package: vsftpd, Version: 2.3.5-1. 1. Can I get the debian source for 2.3.4, and possibly older? I think debian had some version control archive for the vsftpd package. 2. Since I write, I'll mention the issue I am after: $ zcat /usr/share/doc/vsftpd/changelog.gz | tail

Add texinfo back to build depends: policy has been subverted

2011-12-17 Thread Regid Ichira
Quoting changelog of some recent deb: Add texinfo back to build depends: policy has been subverted What is he talking about? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Why diffutils.deb is essential and priority required?

2011-10-28 Thread Regid Ichira
Why does diffutils.deb priority required? Why is it an essential package? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Expanding undefined variables within a shell

2011-09-17 Thread Regid Ichira
Within a shell, what is the difference between [ -n undefinedString ] and [ -n $undefinedString ] ? With bash I get: $ unset undefinedString $ [ -n undefinedString ]printf $undefinedString | od -c 000 $ [ -n $undefinedString ]printf $undefinedString | od -c $ [

Will diff --show-c-function behaves resonably for non C files?

2011-08-13 Thread Regid Ichira
$ diff --help | grep -e --show-c-function -p --show-c-function Show which C function each change is in. Will diff -p behaves reasonably when applied to non C files? I want to use the -p option in a script that does not necessarily act on C files? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: firewall?

2011-07-20 Thread Regid Ichira
hadi motamedi motamedi24 at gmail.com writes: - Add the following line to /etc/sysconfig/iptables -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT Then issue: #service iptables restart I tried for it and now the windows machine can browse valid url . I must mention that the problem

Re: firewall?

2011-07-19 Thread Regid Ichira
hadi motamedi motamedi24 at gmail.com writes: On 7/18/11, Regid Ichira regid23 at yahoo.com wrote: hadi motamedi motamedi24 at gmail.com writes: On 7/18/11, Tom Furie tom at furie.org.uk wrote: On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 03:48:14AM -0400, hadi motamedi wrote: I have set the same

Re: firewall?

2011-07-19 Thread Regid Ichira
hadi motamedi motamedi24 at gmail.com writes: I tried for 'iptables -S' but it returned 'unknown arg -S' . The windows machine firewall is turned off. On the windows machine, browsing like http://128.31.0.51 is successful . The -S option is clearly mentioned in the manual page and the help

Re: Why /etc/init.d/.depend.start did not caught editing to /etc/insserv.conf?

2011-07-18 Thread Regid Ichira
Bob Proulx bob at proulx.com writes: Regid Ichira wrote: I have installed the ntp package. I edited /etc/insserv.conf, and added +ntp to the $time line. $ grep time /etc/insserv.conf # The system time has been set correctly $time +hwclock +ntp Why do

Re: firewall?

2011-07-18 Thread Regid Ichira
hadi motamedi motamedi24 at gmail.com writes: On 7/18/11, Tom Furie tom at furie.org.uk wrote: On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 03:48:14AM -0400, hadi motamedi wrote: I have set the same DNS on both my debian firewall and windows macine. And that would be what? You can ping an IP address from

Re: Getting Rid of Cruft in /var/lib/dpkg/status

2011-07-18 Thread Regid Ichira
David Baron d_baron at 012.net.il writes: Get load of these on any dpkg/apt operation: dpkg-query: warning: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 39750 package 'libmal0': missing architecture dpkg-query: warning: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 40988 package

Re: Why /etc/init.d/.depend.start did not caught editing to /etc/insserv.conf?

2011-07-18 Thread Regid Ichira
Bob Proulx bob at proulx.com writes: Looking at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=634215 I see that you have found a problem related to @reboot with cron starting earlier using the dependency based booting than it did before with the legacy based manually specified number

Why /etc/init.d/.depend.start did not caught editing to /etc/insserv.conf?

2011-07-17 Thread Regid Ichira
I have installed the ntp package. I edited /etc/insserv.conf, and added +ntp to the $time line. $ grep time /etc/insserv.conf # The system time has been set correctly $time +hwclock +ntp I then issued dpkg-reconfigure sysv-rc , expecting to have ntp added to the

Will somethings break if an administrator removes a file marked as conffile?

2011-07-17 Thread Regid Ichira
Will the debian management system interpret a missing conffile as though it was removed by the system administrator? That is, will somethings break if the administrator removes a conffile, rather then nullify its contents or commenting in each line of the file? The file is marked by dpkg as a

How to tell cdbs to work only on 2 out of 7 debs in debian/control?

2011-05-21 Thread Regid Ichira
debian/control of the nut source package has about 7 binary debs, say A ... G. They are built using cdbs. What should I put in debian/rules in order to have it build only A and B? I have tried with DH_OPTIONS and DH_LISTPACKAGES. It didn't work. I always end up with all the 7 binary debs.

How to see the usertags in http://bugs.debian.org, or elsewhere?

2011-05-18 Thread Regid Ichira
Is there a way to see whether a random bug report in the BTS has usertags? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/103555.65632...@web120718.mail.ne1.yahoo.com

apt-cache --names-only search apm | grep sleepd. Is there a bug?

2011-05-05 Thread Regid Ichira
$ apt-cache --names-only search apm | grep sleepd sleepd - puts an inactive or low battery laptop to sleep Am I right that, according to man apt-cache, mentioning sleepd is a bug? $ man apt-cache | grep -A20 ' search regex' | head search regex [ regex ... ]

changelog of debs not available online: Was there a substantial change?

2011-04-13 Thread Regid Ichira
In the last 2 weeks, or so, I am not able to read the changelogs of debs online. An example from today: Not Found The requested URL /changelogs/pool/main/f/fakeroot/fakeroot_1.15.1-1/changelog was not found on this server. Apache

Re: Re: Debian Changelog on packages.debian.org is down

2011-04-13 Thread Regid Ichira
On 13/04/11 11:57, kuLa wrote: On 13/04/11 11:30, Regid Ichira wrote: In the last 2 weeks, or so, I am not able to read the changelogs of debs online. An example from today: Not Found The requested URL /changelogs/pool/main/f/fakeroot/fakeroot_1.15.1-1/changelog

the output of ls /var/lib/apt/lists/*.debian.org_* | wc -l is not constant

2011-03-05 Thread Regid Ichira
The output of that command varies by a +/-1 in the last couple of days. Why it that? Could it be related to security updates in stable? The listing itself is related to the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list. My sources.list uses: deb security stable/updates main contrib non-free

printf di | xargs aptitude -y upgrade and logs in /var/log/apt/term.log

2011-02-07 Thread Regid Ichira
  Am I right having aptitude stdin connected to a pipe, as in     # printf di | xargs aptitude -y upgrade will cause aptitude NOT to log its actions to /var/log/apt/* ?   I think this is a bug.  Do you agree? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

A command line tool to serch the contents of an uninstalled deb

2011-01-05 Thread Regid Ichira
  Is there a command line tool that can search the contents of a deb that is not installed and was not downloaded?  If so, how does it do that?  Does it basically download Contents.gz and search in it? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Non native English speaker is checking whether a phrasing should be filed a minor bug report.

2010-11-30 Thread Regid Ichira
  Consider the following: $ man bootlogd | grep -A4 DESCRIPTION DESCRIPTION    Bootlogd runs in the background and copies all strings sent  to  the    /dev/console  device to a logfile. If the logfile is not accessible,    the messages will be kept in memory until it is. I think

It also lists the DBM library this is being used: s/this/that/ ?

2010-08-10 Thread Regid Ichira
  Does `It also lists the DBM library this is being used' a correct English phrase? $ zgrep -C4 'DBM library this is being used' /usr/share/doc/exim4/spec.txt.gz -bV     This option causes Exim to write the current version number, compilation     number, and compilation date of the exim binary

Is it safe to update-rc.d remove defaults ntp with dependency boot in place?

2010-04-09 Thread Regid Ichira
  As some of you might know, the transition to dependency based boot / insserv is causing the following lines:     insserv: warning: current stop runlevel(s) (0 1 6) of script `ntp'     overwrites defaults (empty).   Is it safe for the system administrator to issue     update-rc.d remove