Re: Ubuntu vs. Debian (was Re: Introduction)

2007-02-20 Thread Steve Lamb
Kevin Mark wrote: > I recall they are huge, requiring a lot of floor space and required a > noise cover otherwise you'd hear ear-splitting, griding noise. X-( Yup, yup and yup. Of course having to work on some model or another of green-bar printer for the past year-and-a-half lemme tell you,

Re: It's a simple question....

2007-02-18 Thread Steve Lamb
Justin Hartman wrote: > Wouldn't the Debian Live CD work as a better option? Not really. Since Debian has so many different release architectures they really don't push automatic detection and configuration as far as the splinter distributions which focus mostly on the x86 architecture. A go

Re: It's a simple question....

2007-02-17 Thread Steve Lamb
is is because to cram so much into so little space many Laptop manufacturers put in tons of proprietary hardware then only code drivers for whatever OS they intend to ship with it. Worse still they only ship the drivers, never really releasing them. -- Steve Lamb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove

2007-02-16 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > *Solving* the corrupted-mbox problem means moving to Maildir (or, > less popularly, mh) storage. Which is not a panacea. All it does is introduce a different set of problems. ~20,000 individual files in a directory may be more resilient against corruption part way throu

Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove

2007-02-16 Thread Steve Lamb
charlie derr wrote: > No, we use dovecot which stores email files in Maildir format on the > server. Dovecot *can* store mail in MailDir. It is not a given. dovecot-common - secure mail server that supports mbox and maildir mailboxes dovecot-imapd - secure IMAP server that supports mbox and

Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove

2007-02-14 Thread Steve Lamb
Dave Sherohman wrote: > OK, one more time: Delete by default does not have to mean delete > *immediately* by default. Look at the underlined text above. I already > explicitly stated that I didn't mean immediate deletion and that delete- > on-folder-change or delete-on-exit are probably better,

Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove

2007-02-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Dave Sherohman wrote: > On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 02:30:33PM +, Virgo Pärna wrote: > I think I'll side with the people who think this obscure use of the word > "compact" is a bug in IceDove (and just continue using mutt). You mean the people who are oblivious to the fact that compact, as you

Re: error loggers gone crazy - disk full

2007-02-08 Thread Steve Lamb
tom arnall wrote: > last night my system ground to a halt with a full disk. looking at the logs, > i > discovered that they were the main if not the only resource hogs. (haven't Had a similar problem happen here. Firefox had generated 14Gb of error logs, the same error repeated over and o

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-02-02 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: >> Paul Johnson wrote: >>> I think that has more to do with Opera marginalizing themselves by >>> expecting people to put up with *more* ads or pay for a web browser. >> That has little to do with what the websites do w

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-30 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > I think that has more to do with Opera marginalizing themselves by expecting > people to put up with *more* ads or pay for a web browser. That has little to do with what the websites do with the user agent string than anything else. > Sounds like the actual problem is th

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-29 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > I would argue that if the value of your User-Agent string affects browsing > habits, then the bug is with the website, not the browser. This is a battle you, and anyone else who thinks like you, is going to lose. Opera has had user agent munging for it's entire existence

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/28/07 16:26, Floris Bruynooghe wrote: >>> There is actually an operational difference. In the about:config page >>> the setting general.useragent.extra.firefox is set to >>> "Iceweasel/2.0.0.1". Looks harmless, but it stopped me from logging >>> on to a website. It wou

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Sunday 28 January 2007 07:01, Martin Schulze wrote: >> Remember the Cola tests? Blindfolded have preferred Pepsi over Coca, >> with eyes open the result they preferred the Coca variant. > Funny. Blindfolded I took the same as I did without the blindfold. Coke > either way

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Steve Lamb
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 06:18:19PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> Like the people who read the CNN article about sterilizing sponges >> in the microwave? > What about sterilizing sponges in the microwave? T'hell with the sponges, how does one read CNN, exactly? --

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-24 Thread Steve Lamb
John C wrote: > It's kinda like a religious fanaticism... "everyone should act and > believe like I do". And yes, you're absolutely right - there is too much > bile being spewed at top posters. No, it's not. It's called a convention for communicating with one another. Do you call it religiou

Re: What was SA thinking?

2007-01-13 Thread Steve Lamb
Reid Priedhorsky wrote: > 7.0 is a pretty aggressive score for rejecting at SMTP time. I think that > if you configure it to be like that, you are guaranteed to have some > spurious blocking. Try relaxing the reject-at-SMTP score (I /dev/null > mails at 22.0). Uh... yeeaaahhh. Let's see, when

Re: What was SA thinking?

2007-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Raquel wrote: > So change it to the score you want exim.org to get in your local.cf > file ... or whitelist it. Er, not the point. I mean since I clearly have spent time in my SA configuration file that's not the problem. The problem is why these obviously horrible sources need to be address

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-10 Thread Steve Lamb
Justin Gallardo wrote: > When replying to an email, is it proper to leave the original poster in > the To: line of the email, and the CC the list? I am a staunch believer that if one is replying to a post on the list it should go to the list only. Reply-to-all defeats the very purpose of the

What was SA thinking?

2007-01-09 Thread Steve Lamb
Recently a ton of mail running through SA has been hitting the soft-limit for spam. I have it set tight, 5.0 for mark and pass. 7.0 for reject at SMTP. Mail from this list, from Exim's list, mail from an MMORPG I play and from a motorcycle web site I went to all got blocked. Ok, so maybe so

Re: FLAC frontend

2006-12-26 Thread Steve Lamb
media player. MP3 - Low-bit for my portable MP3 player. Of course if I could find a portable OGG player that would drop to 2 but still, that's more than what most do right now. Hmmm, might have to hack Jack, it is in Python. Hmmmm... -- Steve Lamb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL P

Re: A market perspective on the impact of dunc-tanc

2006-12-26 Thread Steve Lamb
en happening for years. Heck, it's even touched Debian to an extent through Ubuntu and its offshoots. Money isn't the problem, dogma is. -- Steve Lamb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Why Disable Root ssh login?

2006-12-16 Thread Steve Lamb
Sue Kim wrote: > Neither, yo. > > If you want security you need grsecurity's gradm RBAC patch installed. I > bet I could hack your system in 12 seconds. Pardon me if I am less than impressed by someone posting from an anonymous account, making spurious claims and begins their missive with the

Re: Why Disable Root ssh login?

2006-12-16 Thread Steve Lamb
Olive wrote: > This answer in't entirely convincing. For example if you can sudo with > the normal password account, I do see any difference in security in > allowing root ssh or not. Operative word, "if". That's a big series of ifs. If sudo is installed. If it is configured to allo

Re: dedicated debian hosting

2006-12-03 Thread Steve Lamb
Tom Allison wrote: > Can anyone direct me towards debian based dedicated server hosting > companies? Dunno what kind of hosting you need but on the cheap(er) side would be Xen virtual servers w/Debian installed. Here's a quickie link: http://hostingfu.com/vps/xen-hosting Personally I've

Re: Dirty spam

2006-12-02 Thread Steve Lamb
David E. Fox wrote: > On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 03:40:00 +0100 > Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> How many peoples have there OWN mailservers? > /me does. Actually I cheat a bit. Actually Michelle cheats a bit. How many people have their OWN mailserver? Uhhh, I was talking MTAs. O

Re: aptitude --mind-your-own-business option?

2006-12-02 Thread Steve Lamb
Russell L. Harris wrote: > Unless you are not running X, why is that a problem? Uhm, maybe the times when X is broken? Takes a hell of a lot more to break the console. Or maybe people want to run minimalist and not bother with X if they don't have to? Or maybe even that the CL tools

Re: aptitude --mind-your-own-business option?

2006-12-02 Thread Steve Lamb
Russell L. Harris wrote: > Unless you are not running X, why is that a problem? Uhm, maybe the times when X is broken? Takes a hell of a lot more to break the console. Or maybe people want to run minimalist and not bother with X if they don't have to? Or maybe even that the CL tools

Re: [OT] M$ collaborates with Suse

2006-11-29 Thread Steve Lamb
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Having worked at places which are majority windows and minority *nix, I > can honestly say that the windows approach tends to encourage "tasking" > of "junior" level admins to repetitive tasks by hand, because the > "senior" admins don't want to do it themselves (i.e., t

Re: [OT] M$ collaborates with Suse

2006-11-16 Thread Steve Lamb
Stephen Yorke wrote: > To each their own BUT... But nothing. > Now look at 2003...it is rock solid in my thoughts unless you are > looking at the WWW/HTML/.NET patches which were released recently but > then again if you are looking at those and saying the OS is unsecure you > must be running

Re: Dirty spam

2006-11-09 Thread Steve Lamb
Michelle Konzack wrote: > Only if you receive your mail OVER a MTA. Er, right, which is how most people do it. > With fetchmail you must download and filter Uh, no. The most common fetchmail method is to drop into the local MTA. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what

Re: No xterm (or equivalents) immediately accessible in default etch

2006-11-09 Thread Steve Lamb
Michelle Konzack wrote: > And why do Debian need three similar programs which do the same thing? > But unfortiunatly it is... since those which want to be individual and > use only fvwm are cuted to older apps which are "not more supported" > and deprecated since GNOME and KDE exist!

Re: Dirty spam

2006-11-09 Thread Steve Lamb
Michelle Konzack wrote: > if you receive messages which have a "-request" in there E-mail > then it is always spam (at least for Debian lists) ant it can > be filtered out easily with procmail or mailrop. Er, uh, aren't those after SA in the server-side chain? Sure would be here if I used eit

Re: quick scripting question - finding occurrence in many lines

2006-11-08 Thread Steve Lamb
John O'Hagan wrote: > On Thursday 09 November 2006 03:40, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> SO I wonder what happened to the OP? Is he just watching waiting for >> the right solution, or is he long gone? > [...] > OP? What OP? :) The one who hopefully got an A for his answer. -- Ste

Re: quick scripting question - finding occurrence in many lines

2006-11-06 Thread Steve Lamb
Douglas Tutty wrote: > Sometimes its too easy to keep trying to solve the wrong problem. True, but it sure does answer the question "How do you keep a programmer geek busy?" :) -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | And dream

elegance vs. one-lineness (Was: quick scripting question - finding occurrence in many lines)

2006-11-06 Thread Steve Lamb
Douglas Tutty wrote: > After thinking about it, yes it can all go in one line. Its more > elegant and doesn't use up memory space but its harder to read to > understand what its doing. Depends on what you define as elegant. I dropped Perl several years ago in preference to Python because I f

Re: quick scripting question - finding occurrence in many lines

2006-11-05 Thread Steve Lamb
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > tr -d '\n' > > deletes the new lines Ahhh, ok. Was still going off of the previous Python examples which didn't delete newlines, only replaced them with spaces. Mea Culpa. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key:

Re: [OT] M$ collaborates with Suse

2006-11-05 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > But because of their lock on the desktop, they also have incredible > userland and developer mindshare. You sure? I had a rather interesting conversation at work the other day. I work at a casino outside of Vegas and the guy in charge of what technology we use for our pr

Re: quick scripting question - finding occurrence in many lines

2006-11-05 Thread Steve Lamb
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 01:10:08AM +1100, John O'Hagan wrote: >> Or the whole thing could even be done with (I think!): >> #tr -d '\n' < IN | tr ' ' '\n' | grep -B1 Processor | grep -v 'Processor\|--' > nice. Except for one problem. Look at the OP's post and y

Re: GPL Parental Controls

2006-11-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > "Infinitely opening windows" != "the NY Times popping open a > 'sidebar' window". And there are lots of sites that do that. Too > many to whitelist. Not in my experience. I haven't noticed any reduced functionality from not having popups. In fact it's kept me out of so

Re: Petition about the Firefox trademark problem

2006-10-29 Thread Steve Lamb
Carl Fink wrote: > You don't use synaptic Er, X for package selects? > or dselect, eh? Full screen for package selects? :D 'sides dselect < aptitude's full screen. :P -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | And dr

Re: Petition about the Firefox trademark problem

2006-10-29 Thread Steve Lamb
Carl Fink wrote: > It's easier to install on Debian. That's all. How, exactly? I'm betting that Firefox will just live in non-free and be just as easy to install as IceWeasel. aptitude install firefox aptitude install iceweasel Hmm, wait, iceweasel will be harder... 2 more letters. --

How to vnc to not log?

2006-10-29 Thread Steve Lamb
Anyone know how to get VNC to not log it's errors? I have gotten into the habit of using VNC as my main interface on my server machine. Every few weeks the log fills up root forcing me to shut down VNC so it'll close the log file and allow it to be deleted. As you can see, a tad large... [E

Re: Community hostility [Was Recent spam increase]

2006-10-29 Thread Steve Lamb
cothrige wrote: > I don't really follow you here. How does holding imply not talking? > Surely you don't make a habit of talking about topics you don't hold > views on? ;-) Play on words, "holding it to one self" and "holding views". Point being that not everyone is using Debian for the same

Re: Community hostility [Was Recent spam increase]

2006-10-28 Thread Steve Lamb
cothrige wrote: > Is this really "off putting"? Why? Maybe I am just not really seeing > what is meant here, but I cannot recall a single instance of being > bothered because somebody held a particular view concerning the > political or philosophical nature of GNU or Linux. Holding? No. Sh

Re: Why I left Debian

2006-10-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Damon L. Chesser wrote: > No, you are right, but as far as I know, it is NOT included by default > in any Linux. Nos Suse, not FC, not Ubuntu, not Debian, not any I have > tried. Mepis? One of my on-again-off-again projects is to drop Windows for my gaming platform. Switching to OSX is one

Re: OT: FidoNet [Was Community hostility [Was Recent spam increase]]

2006-10-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > SSMTP over non-standard ports? Doesn't much help since it drops back onto the old net. Fido (the tech, not just the net) is a completely different technology in that it doesn't need the ether, it isn't unified, it is something that anyone can participate in and there's re

Re: Community hostility [Was Recent spam increase]

2006-10-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Mike McCarty wrote: > If people around here (and elsewhere) would quit treating Linux/GNU > project as if it were a religion, a political statement, a way to > change the world paradigm, a poke in the eye at the mythically evil > MicroSoft Empire, an end to capitalism as we know it, and a triumph >

Re: Community hostility

2006-10-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Miles Bader wrote: > Indeed. A simple "No" would suffice. It rarely does because for it to suffice the newcomer would have to leave it at that. They, at least in my experience, never do. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 |

Re: OT: FidoNet [Was Community hostility [Was Recent spam increase]]

2006-10-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Chris Walters wrote: >>> Anyone remember FidoNET? > Yes, I definitely remember FidoNet - I even ran a BBS there for a while. Better still, anyone find themselves nostalgic over FidoNET and wondering if there might be a growing need for it? Not in terms of spam but in terms of privacy? Sinc

Re: Recent spam increase

2006-10-28 Thread Steve Lamb
David Hart wrote: > Then perhaps you should've made it clear that that's what you meant. > But this is beside the point. My point was quite clear. I've gone over it in the past. I never mentioned "in this conversation". I did, in fact, say it was That was your misunderstanding. > I've had

Re: Recent spam increase

2006-10-28 Thread Steve Lamb
David Hart wrote: > It proves the point that T.J. Duchene made to which you gave those > examples in reply. Here's what was said (and what you snipped from your > reply to me): Can we say... "out of context"? >> T.J. Duchene wrote: >> >>> Don't expect Outlook, Thunderbird, Mutt, Pine, or eve

Re: Why I left Debian

2006-10-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Bruno wrote: > However my conclusion is this week-end I'll move back to Fedora (even if yum > is so far behind dpkg). Why switch off apt/dpkg if you think they are superior? There are Debian based distributions which you could try first which attempt to address the problems you're experienci

Re: Recent spam increase

2006-10-27 Thread Steve Lamb
David Hart wrote: > Most of what you say kind of proves the OP's point. You mention 'hooks' > which means using programs _external_ to the email client. Er, no. Hooks in the client does not equate to requiring a full-blown MTA along with the problems that arise from it. -- Steve C

Re: Recent spam increase

2006-10-27 Thread Steve Lamb
David Hart wrote: > I have no need to read the archives as I have a threaded view of this > conversation in front of me as I write. Uh, doesn't help when it wasn't *IN* this conversation. But dozens of times over the past *5 years*. Hence, get thee to the archives. > I didn't realise that p

Re: Recent spam increase

2006-10-25 Thread Steve Lamb
T.J. Duchene wrote: > Granted, several of the new MUAs aka "mail clients" or more precisely > "mail user agents" have some very primitive filtering capabilities, but > ladies and gentlemen, the most practical mail filtering or sorting is > almost always done server side before your MUA even gets th

Re: Petition about the Firefox trademark problem

2006-10-25 Thread Steve Lamb
Nicolaus Kedegren wrote: > Flame me, please, i wear asbestos clothing and i eat fire for breakfast. *douses Nicolaus with ice and stuffs a weasel down his pants.* Bet he wasn't expecting that. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E99C5

Re: Recent spam increase

2006-10-25 Thread Steve Lamb
Vincent Lefevre wrote: > The goal is to mix mail. And yes, Mutt can't do that when dealing > with multiple accounts (they all appear in a separate mailbox). Not true, mutt excels at mixing mail to the point where it is utterly incapable of doing so without forcing the user to go to extraordina

Re: Petition about the Firefox trademark problem

2006-10-25 Thread Steve Lamb
John Hasler wrote: > Nominative uses are not restricted by trademark law in the US. Debian can > say "Iceweasel is built from the same sources as Firefox." "Iceweasel works > exactly like Firefox." "Iceweasel is functionally equivalent to Firefox" > etc. without infringing the trademark. It is pr

Re: Recent spam increase

2006-10-25 Thread Steve Lamb
David Hart wrote: > Been there, done that, look at the third link above to see why it does. > ;-) Doesn't keep mail separate. Please, read the archives before going further. I'm sick and tired of mutt zealots telling me it does what it doesn't do and thinking a few links equates to a reasone

Re: Recent spam increase

2006-10-24 Thread Steve Lamb
David Hart wrote: > http://www.mutt.org/doc/devel/manual.html#pop > http://www.mutt.org/doc/devel/manual.html#imap > http://www.mutt.org/doc/devel/manual.html#account-hook Been there, discussed that, look at "mixing of mail" to see why it doesn't. kkthxbuhbyenow! -- Steve C.

Re: Recent spam increase

2006-10-24 Thread Steve Lamb
Vincent Lefevre wrote: > Yes, in a perfect world. But one may have several mail accounts. > So, one may want to retrieve mail from one account by POP or IMAP > and store it to an IMAP mailbox (from which all the mail from > every account is read with a MUA). Er... why? That's why modern mail

Re: Recent spam increase

2006-10-24 Thread Steve Lamb
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > fetchmail -> exim -> procmail -> IMAP storage -> dovecot -> MUA (tbird > or mutt depending...) > procmail clearly handles IMAP just fine, all you have to do is put a / > at the end of the location to store the mail and it handles it as IMAP. You mean Maildir? I

Re: Recent spam increase

2006-10-24 Thread Steve Lamb
Vincent Lefevre wrote: > Not just MUAs do IMAP. MDAs can do it too. And procmail is also a > MDA (according to its documentation). However procmail is no longer > developed and is too old to support IMAP. But couldn't mailagent > support IMAP via a Perl module? Er... how and why? I'm really c

Re: Petition about the Firefox trademark problem

2006-10-23 Thread Steve Lamb
Hans du Plooy wrote: > Calling someone a weasel has never been a compliment *covers his ferrets eyes* Hey, there's children present! Sheesh, some people. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | And dream I do... --

Re: Dirty spam

2006-10-22 Thread Steve Lamb
Mumia W.. wrote: > Taking down the botnet is another way to fight the spam. It doesn't > always work as planned: Not directed solely at you, Mumia, just something that I've been meaning to say for weeks now. Know what would really help? If people would stop replying to spam, quoting spam or

Re: Petition about the Firefox trademark problem

2006-10-15 Thread Steve Lamb
Tyler wrote: > I would be happy to be corrected; I find these licensing issues more > than a little confusing. They're simple. "Mine!" Done. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | And dream I do... ---

Re: (end of) Development and documentation in Debian

2006-10-02 Thread Steve Lamb
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In international copyright law, there are rights belonging to the author > that he cannot sign away. These include the right to be considered the > author. This means that if the document mentions him as author (perhaps > on a title page) it is illegal to change that

Re: (end of) Development and documentation in Debian

2006-10-02 Thread Steve Lamb
Tyler Smith wrote: > I understand there have been some situations where an author attempted > to undermine the license by declaring an entire document to be > invariant. This is clearly not the case here, though. That is immaterial. It's like saying that if code were pretty much entirely free

Re: (end of) Development and documentation in Debian

2006-10-02 Thread Steve Lamb
Andrei Popescu wrote: > Imagine someone writing a piece of documentation for a software, but > after some time stops keeping it up-to-date. Is the license only for technical documents or would it also be applicable to, say, works of fiction or business/political missives which contain some tec

Re: debian forum

2006-10-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > c) Cannot use vim to compose emails. > If I am using a mailing list interface, I can use kmail to read my emails, > and > vim to write replies. In forums I cannot do that. I am being restricted by > their st**id editor. Know what I can never wrap my brain aroun

Re: debian forum

2006-09-25 Thread Steve Lamb
Julian De Marchi wrote: > I am NOT trying to take over any of the other forums. Sorry if it seemed > that way. I wish to create a place for people to talk about more in depth > problems, where the answers can be archived and retrived by all. Forums > will never beat mailling lists! Not even fo

Re: debian forum

2006-09-25 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sunday 24 September 2006 14:16, Steve Lamb wrote: >> filtering Webforums are to communications as email/newsgroups/BBSes were in >> the mid-80s. Why anyone would want to go back 20 years is beyond me. > Even BBS's had offline QWK packet readers for

Re: debian forum

2006-09-24 Thread Steve Lamb
Dave Sherohman wrote: > So, what are the advantages of changing to a web forum which are so > compelling that not wanting to give up the advantages of mail looks like > fear of change? None as far as I can tell. They're not properly threaded, there's no way to easily and effectively killfile

Re: debian forum

2006-09-24 Thread Steve Lamb
Julian De Marchi wrote: > I would be willing to setup a Debian Forum for the users of this mailing > list on my web servers. Would there be much interest out there for this? Do a search in the archives and see how often this subject has come up. Then realize there isn't really a prolific forum

Re: Watching google videos?

2006-09-19 Thread Steve Lamb
Owen Heisler wrote: > I tried it at the link he provided and got an avi file. Yeah, read that later in the thread. Seems things have changed recently as the last time I tried I only got a link. My apologies for the bad information. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what

Re: Watching google videos?

2006-09-19 Thread Steve Lamb
Owen Heisler wrote: > Can you not use the Download link at the right to download the videos? Nope. That only downloads a link which is played in the Google player. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | And dream I do... -

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-15 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > I really have to wonder what happened to Steve anyway. He and I used to get > along quite well on this list We never got along. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | And dream I do... -

Re: alternative for rdiff-backup

2006-09-14 Thread Steve Lamb
Michael Ott wrote: > And now I want a new backup system which work nearly like rdiff-backup: > Copy only last changed data to another box. But no problems when the > boxes lost the connection or something like that Personally I use dirvish. It only needs ssh/rsync on the remote side and is ve

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-14 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > How am I a proponent of Big Brother? I would say that's a pretty empty > accusation, especially coming from someone who doesn't know me. Your publicly announced political affiliation pretty much is all that is need to be known about you. -- Steve C. Lamb

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-13 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wednesday 13 September 2006 19:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Big Brother!! > Yes indeed. You should be concerned about such things or they become the > norm > for worse. A great man once told me, "Only the paranoid survive." So says a proponent of Big Brothe

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-13 Thread Steve Lamb
K. Richard Pixley wrote: > The linux market hasn't really ever competed in those markets. There > aren't any serious photography apps, video editing apps, etc. What will > hurt linux in the market place is DRM. I can play dvd's on my mac. I > can't on most out-of-the-box linux distributions.

Re: Linux Will Get Buried (Off)

2006-09-13 Thread Steve Lamb
Richard wrote: > http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/08/29/36OPcurve_1.html > Make sure you click the TALK BACK to us link, and tell Tom what > you really think of his article... I think he has a point. I mean I want an OSX machine because of it's hybrid nature. -- Steve C. Lamb

Re: (OT) Prejudice against sendmail?

2006-09-09 Thread Steve Lamb
CaT wrote: > Qmails logging is horrendous. There is no link between logs of > connections and the source and destination of an email. This makes > tracking an IP of a single hit to many destinations a right rotten pain > in the arse if not impossible. Its internal message ids are recycled so > if y

Re: (OT) Prejudice against sendmail?

2006-09-09 Thread Steve Lamb
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > the most annoying parts are accept-then-bounce behaviour This is a serious flaw, IMHO. I had to deal with a qmail system in a production environment. A few dozen domains hosted on a single box times a few dozen boxes. Because of the mail policies of the admin

Re: (OT) Prejudice against sendmail?

2006-09-02 Thread Steve Lamb
Matej Cepl wrote: > One term -- internal messages. forwarding messages to some special users is > so fun (like mail2news gateway posting to [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Then that is, by definition, not a smarthost, is it? Smarthost = "handle all my mail, kkthxbye." -- Steve C. Lamb

Re: (OT) Prejudice against sendmail?

2006-09-02 Thread Steve Lamb
T wrote: > Problem is, the above setting doesn't cover my case, in which the > smarthost server requires username and password for SMTP SSL > authentication. No, but it is also not everything nullmailer can do. I was just giving a simple example of a simple case, no more, no less. The point

Re: (OT) Prejudice against sendmail?

2006-09-01 Thread Steve Lamb
T wrote: > Why? You'll have better support. Recently I need to config my MTA to use > smarthost to talk to my ISP. For several weeks, I tried to do it with > Exim. Then another several weeks on postfix, I searched and asked, all > efforts ended no where. Not sure why anyone who needs just a s

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-09-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Derek Martin wrote: > But it IS there... so what's the problem? The presumption that it is. > A simple minimal ESMTP > engine might be more convenient -- and numerous solutions for that are > available for mutt -- but being able to choose to use a full-fledged > MTA like sendmail offers the u

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-31 Thread Steve Lamb
Michelle Konzack wrote: > You read more then One message at a time? Yes. Person A says Person B said something important while talking to Person C. So you have Message A open so you can find what is referenced in Message B. Hell, I do it all the time just on debian-user. Surely you with yo

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-30 Thread Steve Lamb
Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2006-08-26 17:14:27, schrieb Steve Lamb: >> Exactly. I would love to but it can't. >set sendmail="sendmail -oi" As mentioned before this is not the same and you know it. >> Yet filtering belongs in the clie

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-30 Thread Steve Lamb
Michelle Konzack wrote: > I send E-mails via smtp... => set sendmail="sendmail -oi" No, that is via command line. If sendmail were not there how would you get mail out? Or, more importantly, which is easier to set up, sendmail (exim, postfix, qmail) or a single configuration option which c

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-29 Thread Steve Lamb
Derek Martin wrote: > On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 10:49:32PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > No... the rules are static, and there are exactly two of them. The > user can only change the limits of the rules, not the rules > themselves. Changing means they are flexible. Inflexible would b

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-29 Thread Steve Lamb
Derek Martin wrote: > Any reasonably intelligent person could surmise that what he meant was > according to a reasonably flexible set of rules that the user could > define. It does not do that. Sure it does. It is a reasonably flexible set of rules. It just isn't a highly flexible set of r

Re: mozilla-firefox keeps crashing

2006-08-29 Thread Steve Lamb
Micha Feigin wrote: > mozilla firefox keeps crashing on me very consistently lately. It crashes > almost immediately on most sites and disabling all plugins doesn't seem to > help > at all. Any sites on which it does it constantly? If so could you give a URL so we can see if it crashes ours?

Re: mc and exit

2006-08-29 Thread Steve Lamb
Enrique Morfin wrote: > It doesn't matter what user is (even root). > It doesn't matter what Konsole is. > It doesn't matter what term is. What shell are you using? -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | And dream I do... -

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-29 Thread Steve Lamb
Stephen wrote: > It is ? I have that version and I don't see any button to 'reply to > list'. What am I missing ? Well, the only thing I could ever surmise from the bugzilla discussion about the feature is that they could never decide on exactly how to do it. A button on its own? A drop down

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-29 Thread Steve Lamb
Dmitri Minaev wrote: > If I don't trust my own eyes, what else do I have to believe? :) I > experienced this problem and this experience was the reason to drop > (reluctantly, though) Firefox. And I see > (http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=2451257) that other > people have this problem,

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-29 Thread Steve Lamb
Dmitri Minaev wrote: > I use Sylpheed. Not a gem, but suitable, especially with full > keyboard control. I could live with TB, too, but I was too annoyed by > its' inability to copy a sent message to 'Sent' IMAP folder (recent > messages at mozillazine forums show that the problem still > persists.

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-29 Thread Steve Lamb
CJ van den Berg wrote: > Yes, it will. If it doesn't, then your filesystem is probably mounted > noatime. Mutt uses the filesystem's atime to determine whether mbox files > contain new mail. Uh, since mutt's main display never updated when I was on that screen the display never updated when n

Re: Email programs that work.

2006-08-29 Thread Steve Lamb
Mathias Brodala wrote: > Officially with version 3.0. But the mentioned patch is included in TB > 1.5.0.5 thanks to the TB package maintainers. Oh my, Mathias, thank you for mentioning this. 10 seconds later and one less wart on Thunderbird. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decid

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