Re: Device busy, but lsof doesn't help

2008-07-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 05:57:42PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/18/08 17:39, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: [snip] To ensure that /data/03 is /dev/sda1. Ah, ok. May be, try lazy unmount? I want to know what's happening. Lazy umount is, to me, distateful except when using network

Re: [OT] GMail troubles [Was: Re: du-guidelines - point 7]

2008-07-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:36:57PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 19:04 -0700, Brian Marshall wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:46:07 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I keep telling people that Gmail is evil, but no one will listen. If you care about your

Re: Contributing to the Debian website - easier than some think

2008-07-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 11:23:08AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 03:23:55AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: [breaking the thread on purpose because this is totally unrelated] On Thu,17.Jul.08, 15:28:09, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 08:27:25PM

Re: x.org

2008-07-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 05:07:50PM -0600, Cliff McAtee wrote: Hi my name is Cliff McAtee I am new to Debian. I installed from a disc. Went through the install. every thing looked ok until trying to open. starting from GRUB I was informed x.org did not install correctly. All I get is a

Re: Device busy, but lsof doesn't help

2008-07-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 04:29:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/19/08 14:30, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 05:57:42PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/18/08 17:39, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: [snip] To ensure that /data/03 is /dev/sda1. Ah, ok. May be, try

Re: TV tuner/capture cards?

2008-07-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 06:51:58PM -0500, Dennis Wicks wrote: Greetings; Does anybody know of a tv tuner/capture card that will work with Debian? An FM tuner option would be nice, but not necessary. I use a pvr 150 and a pvr500 from hauppage using the ivtv drivers. Not strictly on debian

Re: x.org

2008-07-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
Please be sure to reply to the list and not to me personally. You will miss out on the wisdom of many more knowledgeable people than me... On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 06:57:54PM -0600, Cliff McAtee wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 05:07:50PM -0600, Cliff McAtee wrote

Re: TV tuner/capture cards?

2008-07-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 09:57:28PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: * Andrew Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008 Jul 19 19:46 -0500]: I use the pvr 500 using the ivtv driver and play using mplayer. Works just fine, native debian. I getting ready to jump into MythTV using Mythbuntu. I'm collecting

Re: Marvell 88E80856 switching from static to dhcp configuration all on its own

2008-07-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:14:25AM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote: Hi All, I'm having a strange problem with a Marvell 88E8056 - 10/100/1000 Controller on a Biostar TA 770 A2+ motherboard. This is an Etch AMD64 install, but I have added the 2.6.25-amd64 kernel as I could not get the

Re: Cannot find /dev/parport0 - ANY SUGGESTIONS?

2008-07-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:35:23PM -0700, Account for Debian group mail wrote: Hello Again, I just upgraded our print server/samba machine from sarge to etch. In the /var/log/dmesg file i see: parport: PnPBIOS parport detected. parport0: PC-style at 0x378, irq 7

Re: regexp q.

2008-07-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 09:22:53AM -0700, Bob McGowan wrote: ... Besides, Andrew's eyes need time to heal ;) no hope of that. I just need to finally bite the bullet and grok some more regex. The only issue with Florian's now snipped line is that its so daunting I don't know where to start. And

Re: Marvell 88E80856 switching from static to dhcp configuration all on its own

2008-07-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 01:36:43PM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:14:25AM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote: Hi All, I'm having a strange problem with a Marvell 88E8056 - 10/100/1000 Controller on a Biostar TA 770 A2+ motherboard

Re: virtual machine choices in Debian

2008-07-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 04:48:14PM -0400, H.S. wrote: Hello, Many months ago I had first installed a virtual machine, VMWare. I used it for a few months and then never touched. IIRC, it was free for students back then. This week I looked it up again (I still have the virtual machines

Re: virtual machine choices in Debian

2008-07-17 Thread Kent West
rather content with virtualbox-ose, but you have to be careful to run a kernel with all the pieces needed (linux-image + virtualbox-ose-modules to match). I'm currently running a -486 kernel instead of the -amd64 I would prefer to run because of this, but, meh. -- Kent West *))) http

Re: Marvell 88E80856 switching from static to dhcp configuration all on its own

2008-07-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 02:30:42PM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 01:36:43PM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:14:25AM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote: [...] I have two NICs

Re: Marvell 88E80856 switching from static to dhcp configuration all on its own

2008-07-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 06:53:25PM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote: ... These troubleshooting suggestions really don't help explain to me why dhclient would override the settings in /etc/network/interfaces for one NIC and not the other though. And why would it override manual settings?

Re: unable to load ipw2200 module

2008-07-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 02:59:45AM +0200, oneman wrote: I've got a Dell Latitude D810 and I tried to get the wireless to work. I installed the ipw2200 driver, but get an error in dsmesg: dull:/home/oneman# dmesg | grep ipw ipw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 1.2.0mq

Re: regexp q.

2008-07-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 09:45:03PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: ... The insane approach (dedicated to Andrew S-W, who is a great perl aficionado): #! /usr/bin/perl -w #read file open ( FH, test.txt ); $string = FH; close ( FH ); # match and count while ( $string =~

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 07:44:02PM +0100, Steven Maddox (Cyorxamp) wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: to add to this... it sounds like OP is asking for known good snapshots of lenny to be tagged somehow and frozen until the next known good snapshot comes along. Okay, it's an interesting idea

apcupsd test fails

2008-07-15 Thread Kent West
. Any suggestions/clues? Thanks! -- Kent West *))) http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: JRE which openjdk gcj

2008-07-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 05:35:55PM -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: On Monday 14 July 2008 05:26:14 pm Alex Samad wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 02:59:00PM -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: On Monday 14 July 2008 02:47:06 pm Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 08:02:05AM

Re: JRE which openjdk gcj

2008-07-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 03:06:08PM -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: On Tuesday 15 July 2008 02:17:55 pm Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 05:35:55PM -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: On Monday 14 July 2008 05:26:14 pm Alex Samad wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 02:59:00PM

Re: JRE which openjdk gcj

2008-07-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 08:02:05AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote: Hi I have noticed that openjdk has made it into the repo's. Wondering what people thoughts where on openjdk, gij and gcj ? Seems like we have lots of choice, and there might be a chance to see a 64B browser plugin now, but

Re: screen resolution

2008-07-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 10:03:46PM +0200, niclas wahlgren wrote: Can't get screen resolution up to 1600x1200. xrandr says: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1280 x 768, maximum 1280 x 1280 VGA1 disconnected DVI0 disconnected VGA2 connected 1280x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm 1280x800 60.0

Re: sudo password visible through ssh command line

2008-07-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 03:26:58PM +0100, Chris Davies wrote: Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 01:04:31PM +0200, Javier Barroso wrote: In sid with key passwordless auth : ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] sudo ls password: password And password is shown

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 02:11:13PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 11:36 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: it's a complicated thing that OP proposes, I think. ISTM that it's much easier to realize that testing is a moving target alpha release (complete with security

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Kent West
. This occurred a could of week back... _after_ updates ;P DUN DUN DUUUNN. I've found that for me, running Sid is less painful than running Testing. -- Kent West *))) http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 05:28:38PM +0100, Steven Maddox (Cyorxamp) wrote: ... 3) Lets try a medium ground between stable and testing. ... This wouldn't be one more step... as I have already explained! It won't be unstable - testing - alpha - stable... that would be plain stupid. Alpha

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 01:17:44PM -0500, Stackpole, Chris wrote: To be blunt... -Fail- That is not what I have suggested what so ever in any way shape or form. I could re-explain but I won't... you just wasted 8 reading paragraphs of my life listening to you arguing against a suggestion I

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 09:55:19AM -0500, Kent West wrote: .. I've found that for me, running Sid is less painful than running Testing. AOL that. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: IMAP is teh r0x0rz! [was: Re: getting copies of own posted messages; was: Re: ??: Stunned by aptitude.]

2008-07-13 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 08:31:06PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/10/08 12:38, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 01:38:35PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/09/08 13:26, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [snip] try a different MUA? This is why IMAP should be the standard

Re: sudo password visible through ssh command line

2008-07-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 01:04:31PM +0200, Javier Barroso wrote: Hi, In sid with key passwordless auth : ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] sudo ls password: password And password is shown you just confirming I see this behavior as well. Any tip to avoid this ? don't issue sudo commands in an

IMAP is teh r0x0rz! [was: Re: getting copies of own posted messages; was: Re: ??: Stunned by aptitude.]

2008-07-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 01:38:35PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/09/08 13:26, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [snip] try a different MUA? This is why IMAP should be the standard mail store, not mboxes in proprietary locations. second that. THe convenience is incredible. Case in point

Re: [Solved] Re: Unable to remove trousers (package!!!)

2008-07-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 08:50:33PM +0200, Julian wrote: On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 01:28:39PM -0500, Preston Boyington wrote: yes, but it has brought so much joy to others. i even forwarded it to people not on list. :D I have to admit, this quite funny ;) But why the hell, do someone

Re: OT: Energy efficiency difference btw GNU/Linux, Mac MS

2008-07-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 07:55:56AM +0100, andy wrote: Hello all As part of my studies I must draw up a spec for providing a hypothetical building with power sourced solely from renewables (solar, PV, wind). This building is an educational establishment for about 20 people using

Re: Why do you add spaces to your url links?

2008-07-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 03:14:44AM +, T o n g wrote: On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:07:06 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: http://i37. tinypic .com/2d9y07o.jpg (without space) That totally defeats the purpose of having hyperlinks. please post back the actual url, without space of course.

Re: [Solved] Re: Unable to remove trousers (package!!!)

2008-07-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 06:09:40PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/08/08 17:25, stabbyjones wrote: the first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem. He's the one who wants to talk about taking off his trousers... Norm: oooh ouch Sammy:what's the matter Norm! Norm:my

Scripting Question - tar

2008-07-10 Thread Kent West
- /TERASTATIONBACKUP/GOSHEN/2008/2008-Jul-10.tgz the script works. Am I just not seeing a typo somewhere? Why is my script failing? Thanks! -- Kent West *))) http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Scripting Question - tar

2008-07-10 Thread Kent West
Owen Townend wrote: Kent West wrote: Am I just not seeing a typo somewhere? Why is my script failing? Hey, You're missing the '-' for stdin tar -czvf - --one-file-system $sourceDir | split -b 2000m - $targetFile Ah, thank you! -- Kent West ))) Westing

Re: getting copies of own posted messages; was: Re: ??: Stunned by aptitude.

2008-07-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 11:33:39AM -0400, Barclay, Daniel wrote: Chris Davies wrote: Barclay, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why don't you just copy the text and paste it into a message? Follows. Notice that even the text/plain part is base64 encoded. Thanks. (And thanks to others

Re: getting copies of own posted messages; was: Re: ??: Stunned by aptitude.

2008-07-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 12:41:57PM -0400, Barclay, Daniel wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 11:33:39AM -0400, Barclay, Daniel wrote: ... P.S. How do I change my debian-user subscription to have the mailing list server send me a copy of my own posts

Re: How to create qemu-bootable image using debootstrap?

2008-07-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 01:18:22AM -0700, David Barrett wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sun, Jul 06, 2008 at 11:34:52PM -0700, David Barrett wrote: Carl Fink wrote: On Sun, Jul 06, 2008 at 09:00:38PM -0700, David Barrett wrote: David Barrett wrote: What's the best way to create a raw disk

Re: SOLVED (mostly): How to Boot a Dell Optiplex 320?

2008-07-04 Thread Kent West
Chris Burkhardt wrote: H.S. wrote: Kent West wrote: I've just discovered that upgrading from the 2.6.18-6-686 kernel to the 2.6.24-1-686 re-introduces a hang-up on booting. D'oh! (choosing the old 2.6.18 kernel from lilo gets me going again, though - whew! Stupid Optiplex 320

Re: kde volume control question

2008-07-04 Thread Kent West
also commands the single slider that ypu selected as master. No clicks needed ;) Well that was easy. Wonder why I've never noticed that. Thanks! And the extra tip is nice also. Thanks again! -- Kent West Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

SOLVED: How to Boot a Dell Optiplex 320?

2008-07-03 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote: Apparently the Dell Optiplex 320 is one odd piece of computer; the 'Net is full of people having trouble installing Linux on it. And I've just spent a day and a half trying to find a version of Windows that would install on it so I could update the BIOS to the most recent

kde volume control question

2008-07-03 Thread Kent West
to control the PCM control instead of whatever other control it is presumably controlling? Thanks! -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: SOLVED (mostly): How to Boot a Dell Optiplex 320?

2008-07-03 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote: Kent West wrote: Apparently the Dell Optiplex 320 is one odd piece of computer; the 'Net is full of people having trouble installing Linux on it. And I've just spent a day and a half trying to find a version of Windows that would install on it so I could update the BIOS

Re: Xen. Ohm ohm

2008-06-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:26:56AM -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: I feel so dirty. I am using vmworkstation because at the time I wanted to learn Linux server things, not vm things. Now I am looking at Xen and it seems interesting. However, I am having a hard time on finding good info (I

Re: Advice for troubleshooting X (total screen loss) -- Newb Alert

2008-06-27 Thread Kent West
to the nv driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Advice for troubleshooting X (total screen loss) -- Newb Alert

2008-06-27 Thread Kent West
Jeff Soules wrote: Kent West wrote: I would start by changing the nvidia driver to the nv driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf Mumia W. wrote: Re-do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the vesa driver--just to check if the nvidia driver is the source of the problem

Re: How to Boot a Dell Optiplex 320?

2008-06-23 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote: Chris Burkhardt wrote: I may be misunderstanding, but when the grub menu comes up can you not press 'e' to edit. If so select kernel line and press 'e' again and add option there. Hit the 'Return' key and then 'b' to boot. No, there's not so much as a grub menu; it's like

Re: (Mishap?) upgrading from Woody to Etch

2008-06-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 04:51:25AM -0700, Adam Hardy (debian) wrote: [snipped tales of woe regarding mixed systems] I have a 5 year-old system hosted on Xen by a hosting company, which I only use for Java and mysql - currently it's running Woody and being slap-dash, I tried to install a

Re: minimalist window managers [was Re: Preferred applications: IDE, text-editor, music player.]

2008-06-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:01:59AM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started with wmii, played with some others, and then stumbled on xmonad and got hooked. to each their own. Just like vimperator... tried

Re: where is xmms?

2008-06-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:04:52PM +0100, Michal R. Hoffmann wrote: On 19/06/08 22:34, Mark Allums wrote: Ivan Glushkov wrote: Hi all, I have a sid x64 installed. I am wandering why there is no possibility to install xmms? If I understand correctly, xmms is no longer considered

Re: cut and paste with the screen program

2008-06-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 08:21:46AM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 05:34:17PM +1000, Daniel Dalton wrote: Hi, I'm using screen. (So I can have many terminals in one text-console). How can I cut and paste between screen terminals? (using the keyboard) I'm totally

How to Boot a Dell Optiplex 320?

2008-06-20 Thread Kent West
to find a way to force this grub install to let me add boot arguments. Anyone have any suggestions? (Wow! I never thought I'd consider a Dell to be absolute cr*p, but this is it.) Thanks! -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: How to Boot a Dell Optiplex 320?

2008-06-20 Thread Kent West
Robin wrote: 2008/6/20 Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Apparently the Dell Optiplex 320 is one odd piece of computer; the 'Net is full of people having trouble installing Linux on it. snip So I tried going the route of doing a network install via http://www.goodbye-microsoft.com

Re: How to Boot a Dell Optiplex 320?

2008-06-20 Thread Kent West
ESC before it boots: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#hiddenmenu Ah, that looks like what I need. I'll be able to try it Monday. Thanks! -- Kent West Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: minimalist window managers [was Re: Preferred applications: IDE, text-editor, music player.]

2008-06-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 05:16:47PM -0500, Kevin Monceaux wrote: A, On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: if you decide to investigate other minimalist WM's you might look at xmonad. It's all keyboard controlled, tiled with a variety of customizable tiling layouts. pretty fun

Re: MàJ d'un soft compilé

2008-06-18 Thread west
maderios a écrit : Installer checkinstall Compiler ton programme lancer checkinstall à la place de make install et ton programme compilé apparait sous la forme d'un .deb que tu peux installer avec dpkg CheckInstall keeps track of all the files created or modified by your installation script

minimalist window managers [was Re: Preferred applications: IDE, text-editor, music player.]

2008-06-18 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 01:38:42PM -0500, Kevin Monceaux wrote: Nuno, On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Nuno Magalhães wrote: The thing is i have a few requirements: i want applications that are not desktop-dependant (i.e. Gnome or KDE) and do not rely upon Java. This rules out a lot of text editors.

Re: Root sending messages to users

2008-06-18 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 06:01:21PM +, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote: Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MK Am 2008-06-17 04:01:26, schrieb i'll teach you to turn away.: does no one use 'talk' anymore? MK Ehm, this is for the console... Better: xtakl or linpopup

Re: Preventing DNS lookup prior to sending 220 banner in exim4 on etch

2008-06-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 08:32:15PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 01:37:59PM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:34:02 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have exim4 (exim4-daemon-heavy) running on etch. This machine

Re: Some images not displayed by Iceweasel

2008-06-17 Thread Kent West
which is a US Weather Bureau radar image. What is the problem? Just FYI: I have the same problem on 2.6.25-2-686 on an Intel box. -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Some images not displayed by Iceweasel

2008-06-17 Thread Kent West
://www.drudgereport.com/ at which some images show and some don't. -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Some images not displayed by Iceweasel

2008-06-17 Thread Kent West
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/17/08 15:59, Kent West wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/17/08 15:22, Edward C. Jones wrote: I use Debian unstable, amd64 port, on a PC with a 64 bit AMD chip. The latest version of Iceweasel

Re: Some images not displayed by Iceweasel

2008-06-17 Thread Kent West
West http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

MàJ d'un soft compilé

2008-06-16 Thread West
Bonjour la liste, J'aimerais savoir comment peut on mettre à jour un logiciel installé par compilation de manière sure, sans perdre sa configuration, s'assurer que ce n'est que le delta qui soit installé. Avez vous des procédures ? Cela dépend t'il du makefile ? j'entends par là, que le

Re: aptitude purge flashplugin-nonfree hang

2008-06-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
THis got moved off-list accidently... summarizing below for posterity On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 01:25:10PM +0200, Paul Csanyi wrote: Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 08:47:10AM +0200, Paul Csanyi wrote: Hello! My System is Debian GNU/Linux Etch

Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:18:06PM +1000, Rich Healey wrote: Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 04:04:10PM +1000, Rich Healey wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/15/08 05:46, Star Liu wrote: snip except that it refuses root to use

Re: configuration of a linux router

2008-06-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 04:01:39PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folk, At Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:27:40 -0400 Douglas A. Tutty wrote, ... if you want to really understand it use shorewall after reading shorewall-doc. ipmasq works but I want to use shorewall. I wonder why rules are needed

Re: aptitude purge flashplugin-nonfree hang

2008-06-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 08:47:10AM +0200, Paul Csanyi wrote: Hello! My System is Debian GNU/Linux Etch and Half. I have installed flashplugin-nonfree and it works well with iceweasel so far. ... I can't to purge nor remove flashplugin-nonfree with aptitude. Aptitude hangs at this

Re: Debian on laptop

2008-06-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 08:34:54AM -0500, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: Later I tried to do the same trick with Debian, after I wiped Ubuntu. The results were similar, except that the CRT/LCD key no longer worked, and if I wanted the projector to see my laptop, I had to restart X. If I

Re: Compiling fails: file missing but it's there

2008-06-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 05:44:25AM +0200, Sladi wrote: Hi, I try to compile xf4vnc on Lenny AMD64 following this page: http://xf4vnc.sourceforge.net/modular.html Only compiling the xserver fails. It complains about missing pixmap.h file. The file is installed via aptitude

Re: Asus P5E-VM DO Motherboard Network Driver Availiable? Hardware compatibility with Debian?

2008-06-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 09:45:30PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 12:08:06AM +0300, Odisseas-Nearxos Pasipoularidis wrote: I own a PC with an Asus P5E-VM DO Motherboard and I am trying to install Debian OS on it. I can't find the driver to configure the Ethernet

Re: Lenovo Thinkpad, HP, or Vostro/Latitude? was Re: OT: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 01:41:53PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 15 Jun 2008, Lee Glidewell wrote: On Sunday 15 June 2008 01:27:14 am Anthony Campbell wrote: snip Wireless works with th old ipw3945 stuff but I have never managed to get iwlwifi to do anything, so I can't use a later

Re: Lenovo Thinkpad, HP, or Vostro/Latitude? was Re: OT: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 06:00:19PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 15 Jun 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: ... ifup wlan0 # can't do anything without upping the thing iwlist wlan0 scan # will perform a scan (can you get this part to work?) iwconfig wlan0 essid essid

Re: Iceweasel 3 and gopher?

2008-06-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 01:31:07PM +0100, Peter Tynan wrote: I noted from a recent discussion on this list that iceweasel 3.0-rc2 has been made available in Sid and I was wondering what the plans are for support of the gopher protocol in Iceweasel 3? I ask this because support for the gopher

Re: Fetchmail

2008-06-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 07:35:59AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Jamie writes: using individual user ~/.fetchmailrc files is probably a safer and preferred way to use fetchmail. Those are not the only choices. I run Fetchmail as an unprivileged user named mailagent which then passes the mail

Re: Iceweasel 3 and gopher?

2008-06-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 04:42:08PM +0100, Peter Tynan wrote: 2008/6/14 Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 01:31:07PM +0100, Peter Tynan wrote: I noted from a recent discussion on this list that iceweasel 3.0-rc2 has been made available in Sid and I

Re: Iceweasel 3 and gopher?

2008-06-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 05:43:19PM +0100, Peter Tynan wrote: 2008/6/14 Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 04:42:08PM +0100, Peter Tynan wrote: Iceweasel (and FireFox) prior to version 3 despite a few bugs were the most convenient GUI gopher browser available

Re: Fetchmail

2008-06-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 11:25:00AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: I wrote: Those are not the only choices. I run Fetchmail as an unprivileged user named mailagent which then passes the mail to Mailagent (could just as well be Procmail) for local sorting and delivery. Andrew Sackville-West

Re: making bootup fsck more user-friendly

2008-06-13 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 05:02:15PM +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: On 2008-06-13 13:38, David wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Johannes Wiedersich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: read 'man tune2fs' for some tips for setting interval and mount count to something that better meets your

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:57:58PM +0200, Misko wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 02:07:14PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: What modem? Winmodems aren't modems, they're sound boards with the wrong audio connector. I have read something like this many times. What am I interested in is if I can

Re: KDE install issues

2008-06-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 06:04:06PM -0700, Louis Cunningham wrote: I am just going to stick with Ubuntu for now, Thank you all for your help. This was a pain in Ubuntu too, but it's set up how I want it, one question though; I have grub running off of the Debian OS if I format it, will my

Re: Linux doesn't like DVD+R disks?

2008-06-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:02:38AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/12/08 07:20, Bob Cox wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 21:11:15 -0500, Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I'm trying to burn an ISO to a dual-layer DVD+R disk, but these programs instantly error out. growisofs

Re: iceweasel 3 in sid

2008-06-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:49:41PM +0800, Deephay wrote: Greetings all, Recently the iceweasel browser in sid updated to 3.0-rc2, everything is OK except every time I was trying to launch the browser it will pop up a dialog saying Iceweasel is not currently your default browser...

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:26:53AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/12/08 09:49, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:57:58PM +0200, Misko wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 02:07:14PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: What modem? Winmodems aren't modems, they're sound boards

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Kent West
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:26:53AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: Ah, the good old, slow, usually large, acoustic modem. If your handset didn't match the design of the modem, you were stuck. The *only* benefit to them was that you could use them with a pay phone

Re: KDE install issues

2008-06-11 Thread Kent West
, and then run startx, and let us know what happens. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:24:10AM -0700, David Fox wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:58 AM, Thomas H. George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Money is tight, of course. If I were the student and there is a modest-priced laptop with Debian and OpenOffice I'd take it in a flash. I'm

Re: KDE install issues

2008-06-10 Thread Kent West
or to vesa, whichever gives the best results. You can do this in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: KDE install issues

2008-06-10 Thread Kent West
, or terminates normally, or terminates abnormally, or what? You may have to do something like dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg; others might have better suggestions. (Original emails below) On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:29, Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Louis

Re: KDE install issues

2008-06-10 Thread Kent West
and move it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then startx or /etc/init.d/[x|k|w|g]dm restart to test it. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Intall etche on Windows Vista system with AMD64 processor

2008-06-09 Thread Kent West
-microsoft.com and install Debian from there. This takes the CD out of the equation altogether. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Intall etche on Windows Vista system with AMD64 processor

2008-06-09 Thread Kent West
-loading into Debian-Installer via grub4dos http://grub4dos.sf.net/. Graphical installations are supported http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2007/01/msg01092.html as well. The frontend site goodbye-microsoft.com http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ has been setup for advocacy purposes. -- Kent West

Re: moon-lander 1:1.0-3 goes zombie (debian etch)

2008-06-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 12:22:56AM -0700, Brian Wells wrote: Welcome Brian. Installed the moon-lander 1:1.0-3 package (and its dependency package, moon-lander-data, same version) using aptitude, on debian etch. Every time the game ship lands, I hear Tranquility base here, the eagle... and

Re: cdebootstrap error: can't install system

2008-06-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 09:46:26PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote: On 06/08/2008 07:32 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 05:53:05PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote: [...] priority-important -libtasn1-2-bin -libtasn1-3-bin -end--- I don't know

Re: Java webstart in amd64

2008-06-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 01:37:35PM +, Walt L. Williams wrote: Good Morning Try this link http://packages.debian.org/etch/sun-java5-jdk If you look over on the right there are links for Sun Java 6. I am currently using the the backport of java 6 on etch without trouble. I would

Re: Java webstart in amd64

2008-06-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 08:23:58AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 01:37:35PM +, Walt L. Williams wrote: Good Morning Try this link http://packages.debian.org/etch/sun-java5-jdk If you look over on the right there are links for Sun Java 6. I am

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