Re: fastest linux distro

2014-05-31 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 12:27 AM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Sb, 31 mai 14, 09:31:35, Chris Angelico wrote: No no, I was thinking more of 1GB as starved. Even for rescaling video on the fly (as often happens - the files come at whatever resolution they're at, and they're

Re: fastest linux distro

2014-05-31 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 1:00 AM, Bzzz lazyvi...@gmx.com wrote: On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 00:54:45 +1000 Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: It's S-Video driving a PAL TV, so it's 576 lines of... uhh... and this is where I demonstrate utter lack of knowledge of TV specs, 720x576 Thanks. I looked

Re: Assange and NSA

2014-05-31 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 11:53:00AM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: On 20140531_2339+1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 09:31:32AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: Off topic on the Debian user list? I think not. I think so. That question is more appropriate for the debian-project

Re: How to find dirs with single item

2014-05-30 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Marko Randjelovic marko...@eunet.rs wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2014 22:43:29 +0100 Clive Standbridge list-u...@tgstandbridges.plus.com wrote: find temp |sed 's|[^/]*$||' |sort |uniq -u This doesn't work on this directory. Can you try the Python script on that,

Re: iptables, virtualbox and port forwarding

2014-05-30 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 7:04 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: What I basically want to do, and I do not understand how they ( my programmer colleagues ) can happily live without that, is a server for source versionning, bug tracking, wikis, etc. This stuff does not need any virtual

Re: iptables, virtualbox and port forwarding

2014-05-30 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 8:51 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Hoping to find something that you can do entirely under your own control. :) You mean, be your own boss? Heh, that's another way of interpreting that statement. But no, what I meant was some way you can get the test/dev

Re: How to find dirs with single item

2014-05-30 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Marko Randjelovic marko...@eunet.rs wrote: Can you try the Python script on that, please? File system encodings can be a bit of a pain at times. If it doesn't work as python, try python3, as the two are a bit different as regards Unicode. ChrisA No

Re: fastest linux distro

2014-05-30 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Fri 30 May 2014 at 03:00:21 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: When I have an extremely RAM starved computer, I put Debian on it every time. CLI

Re: fastest linux distro

2014-05-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 11:27:12PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Specs would be nice, but I think the processor and/or video card is doing all the heavy lifting in such a case. Having dedicated video RAM is usually a plus, but I had something like this running on a PIII 500 MHz with 768 MB

Re: Problem with Spamassassin since upgrade (permissions)

2014-05-29 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Oliver Zemann oliver.zem...@gmail.com wrote: When i run the command as user amavis i get the same, old, error message: $ test -e /usr/sbin/amavisd-new-cronjob /usr/sbin/amavisd-new-cronjob sa-sync config: path /var/lib/spamassassin/3.003002 is inaccessible:

Re: fastest linux distro

2014-05-29 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: When I have an extremely RAM starved computer, I put Debian on it every time. CLI Network install works with almost no RAM, and granular choices of things to install guarantees I'll have a small system. How

Re: fastest linux distro

2014-05-29 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 3:36 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Fri, 30 May 2014 03:00:21 +1000 Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: When I have an extremely RAM starved computer, I put Debian

Re: media 'slideshow': movies + pictures

2014-05-29 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 5:13 AM, Wim Bertels wim.bert...@khleuven.be wrote: $ vlc some_dir_with_pictures doesnt work here: version:: VLC media player 2.0.8 Twoflower I gave it /* at the end to have the shell expand the playlist, although that's partly because I often want to be more specific

Re: How to find dirs with single item

2014-05-29 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2014 14:31:03 -0500 Dennis Wicks w...@mgssub.com wrote: Can't quite figure out how to do this. I'd like to be able to scan a Volume or directory and find all directories that have only one item in

Re: fastest linux distro

2014-05-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 01:04:13PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: By the way, no matter what DE/WM I'm using, I *always* install Xfce just to get xfburn, xfce4-appfinder, and a few other priceless apps. I I find that mp3burn and wodim cater for all my 'burning' desires. :) DE, WM, X, not required.

Re: iptables, virtualbox and port forwarding

2014-05-28 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:03 PM, Joe j...@jretrading.com wrote: The point here is that all modern hardware is capable of IPv6, and even if you aren't using it, malware writers may be. And by default, a Debian machine is wide open to IPv6, and some of its software is listening to it. Run a

Re: about heirloom mailx

2014-05-28 Thread Chris Davies
would suggest it's really quite likely this is the situation here. Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/j9pg5bx1mo@news.roaima.co.uk

Re: iptables, virtualbox and port forwarding

2014-05-28 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote: On Wed, 28 May 2014 21:25:23 +1000 Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Chris, still trying to convince his ISPs that IPv6 is worth supporting Hard, isn't it? Several (many?) ISPs in these parts seem to be doing

Re: media 'slideshow': movies + pictures

2014-05-28 Thread Chris Angelico
seconds per frame. Mixing up media types seems to work fine: $ vlc Music/American McGee's Alice Original Music Score (2000) FLAC/15 Chris Vrenna - Flying on the Wings of Steam.flac LetHerGo2.mid Pictures/flickr-3486537506-original.jpg /video/Clips/Frozen - Let It Go.mkv Well, actually my VLC won't

Re: media 'slideshow': movies + pictures

2014-05-28 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Mi, 28 mai 14, 21:57:32, Chris Angelico wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:36 PM, The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote: Stephen Allen said that Shotwell can do both, and Joe Zien said that Gwenview can

Re: media 'slideshow': movies + pictures

2014-05-28 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:45 PM, The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote: Hmm. The OP claimed that VLC didn't seem to do what he needs, which is one reason I didn't investigate it more closely; possibly he just didn't check out all the options closely enough? Maybe. There are, as Mercury and

Re: media 'slideshow': movies + pictures

2014-05-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 08:45:17AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: That's the right way to do random play, IMO, though I've yet to devise an algorithm for doing it properly that seems both clean and functional to my eye. Ah! ... but true random play is just white noise, is it not? -- If you're

Re: repeatable dpkg-buildpackage

2014-05-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 05:06:01PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2014-05-26 at 18:58 +0400, Reco wrote: fakeroot ... regarding to some claims on this list is a PITA, at least when building a kernel. I run my scripts to build kernel-rts as root. It's a good idea to recommend best

Re: Error message: Possible missing firmware during linux-image upgrade

2014-05-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 06:05:34PM -0700, Horatio Leragon wrote: I happen to have Realtek RTL8111/8168B Gigabit card which works flawlessly with any Debian kernel starting with Squeeze's backported 3.1. How does one find out if the Realtek Gigabit card is 8168B, 8168A, 8168E? man

Re: repeatable dpkg-buildpackage

2014-05-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:20:01AM +0300, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: On 05/27/2014 11:15 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 05:06:01PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2014-05-26 at 18:58 +0400, Reco wrote: fakeroot ... regarding to some claims on this list is a PITA

Re: Installing Thunderbird

2014-05-27 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 1:18 AM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD erosenb...@hygeiabiomedical.com wrote: Running Debian testing [Jessie] 64 bit system, and a POP3 email system. I have to ask the obvious question: Why are you unable to use IMAP? The normal way to share your mailstore between multiple

Re: preferred overlay/union filesystem?

2014-05-27 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 5:47 AM, Joe Pfeiffer pfeif...@cs.nmsu.edu wrote: Well, I don't want to keep two separate files (that's what I'm trying to get away from). It seems like the overlay filesystem would be a bit cleaner if it can work, but symbolic links elsewhere would be my second

Re: iptables, virtualbox and port forwarding

2014-05-27 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Joe j...@jretrading.com wrote: This package is relatively recent, and when I needed to address this problem, I had just built a Linux-From-Scratch system, so I took their init script skeleton and made a pseudo-daemon, entering a set of iptables commands at

Re: preferred overlay/union filesystem?

2014-05-27 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Kushal Kumaran kushal.kumaran+deb...@gmail.com wrote: Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 5:47 AM, Joe Pfeiffer pfeif...@cs.nmsu.edu wrote: Well, I don't want to keep two separate files (that's what I'm trying to get away from

Re: exim4 fetchmail delivery more than 10 rejected

2014-05-26 Thread Chris Davies
probably be set to zero (that is, disabled). http://www.exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/ch-main_configuration.html Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https

Re: 'box' as noun, was: wireless can DHCP but not DNS?

2014-05-24 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 09:52:43AM +, Curt wrote: On 2014-05-23, Joe Pfeiffer pfeif...@cs.nmsu.edu wrote: While you are correct, the sentence structure leads one to expect 'box' as a verb and 'ethernets' as a noun. Speaking as another native speaker, it took me two passes to read

Re: friends laptop, no mic found

2014-05-24 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 09:58:11AM +, Curt wrote: On 2014-05-24, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 06:13:17AM -0400, Rodney D. Myers wrote: I always thought this mail list stripped attachments. I now know ... that it depends on their size

Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

2014-05-24 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 07:34:18AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: I wrote: Google search works just fine with all ads, cookies, scripts, and trackers blocked. Chris Bannister writes: It's probably easier to use https://startpage.com/ :-) How is that easier? They do it all for you. No need

Re: Rar for debian wheezy

2014-05-23 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote: i some how installed a rar binary which is working in my old system now i can not back track how i installed it.i want that to install in my Debian wheezy desktop as i am receving many rar files. and unrar is not good

Re: Rar for debian wheezy

2014-05-23 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Vi, 23 mai 14, 13:10:36, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: i some how installed a rar binary which is working in my old system now i can not back track how i installed it.i want that to install in my Debian wheezy

Re: Re: Rar for debian wheezy

2014-05-23 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Hudson Flavio Meneses Lacerda hfmlace...@yahoo.com.br wrote: Chris Angelico wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote: i some how installed a rar binary which is working in my old system now i can not back track how

Re: 'box' as noun, was: wireless can DHCP but not DNS?

2014-05-23 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 6:42 AM, Joe Pfeiffer pfeif...@cs.nmsu.edu wrote: Tom Roche tom_ro...@pobox.com writes: Lisi Reisz Fri, 23 May 2014 17:10:49 +0100 box is a verb, so I found it confusing. You are indeed confused. As a native speaker of English, I can assure you, 'box' is both noun

Re: friends laptop, no mic found

2014-05-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 06:13:17AM -0400, Rodney D. Myers wrote: I always thought this mail list stripped attachments. I now know ... that it depends on their size? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are

Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

2014-05-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 09:59:40PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Joel Rees writes: The question of how evil google is/was/is becoming aside... Google search works just fine with all ads, cookies, scripts, and trackers blocked. It's probably easier to use https://startpage.com/ :-) -- If

Re: Anyone using exim with fastmail.fm's smtp server as smart host?

2014-05-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 01:29:04AM -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk writes: On Thu 22 May 2014 at 22:43:37 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: I'll be back at it in 2wks or so.. I suspect it will be pretty simple now. It should be after what follows::) In

Re: problems with ntp syncronization in wheezy

2014-05-22 Thread Chris Davies
to use ntpdate(-debian) instead of ntpd? Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/n6s05bxgq1@news.roaima.co.uk

Re: does gpg gpg2 use same gpg.conf file in home directory what are the best practices to create gpg2 signature ?

2014-05-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 08:34:39AM +0530, war.dhan wrote: ... You'll probably have better luck on a gnupg mailing list: https://www.gnupg.org/documentation/mailing-lists.html -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Chris Angelico
similar to GNOME 2 (and also happens to be fairly comfortable for someone coming from the OS/2 Presentation Manager). It's the default in Debian Jessie, so switching now will mean you're on the same thing when Jessie becomes stable. # apt-get install xfce4 Chris Angelico -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote: thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mostly terminal window. i am new to gnome and xfce. so my question is, are all the applications from gnome will be available in xfce, is it like a layer on the

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote: do i have to uninstall gnome3 in order to work with xfce4 actually i wanted to run both by enabling one and disabiling other for testing puporse or to evaluate which one is better for me. btw i installed xfce4 and

Re: Systemd and vt9

2014-05-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:53:04PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: So can anyone who is actually using Systemd now (I am still on Wheezy, BTW) tell me if this is going to be an issue for me? Can I do this once my box has been converted to Systemd? What about that root login on vt9? Don't

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:16 AM, Horatio Leragon hlera...@yahoo.com wrote: Does xfce come with a lot of bloated apps? I remember that gnome-core comes with plenty of bloated apps. I don't know that it does. A default Debian Jessie install brings with it a bunch of stuff like LibreOffice, but I

Re: Immediate problem resolved -- Re: Max number of loop devices OR efficient search of Debian documentation

2014-05-20 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:02 AM, Richard Hector rich...@walnut.gen.nz wrote: On 20/05/14 23:50, Richard Owlett wrote: I read the man pages for all the commands others referenced but didn't come with any extrapolation to improve my skills at retrieving information on my own. Any suggestions?

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 03:15:44PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: DRM sucks! +10E -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-20 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 03:15:44PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: DRM sucks! +10E Okay, now I have to chime in. Not only is this off topic (which I can't complain about, having been guilty of the same

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-20 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sad that sysvinit's future seems pretty bleak but that's life. I'm not. There's so much boilerplate in sysvinit scripts, and I'm quite happy to see them replaced with something a lot simpler. The system of coded comments at the

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-19 Thread Chris Angelico
that GTK is now a gnome only thing and that all programs using gtk are to be used *only* under gnome. It must be said. I hope that's true only of GTK+3. I have a GTK2 application which I personally run under Xfce, and which I support on all Linux desktop environments, plus Windows and Mac OS. Chris

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-19 Thread Chris Angelico
, it is licensed, just to be sure). Maybe you want to argue that holding a copy on physical media entitles you to something; but the problem has never been with the creation, but the sale. Chris Angelico [1] http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+24version=NIV [2] http

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Richard Hector rich...@walnut.gen.nz wrote: On 19/05/14 22:00, Chris Angelico wrote: On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Richard Hector rich...@walnut.gen.nz wrote: I wouldn't call real estate a form of intellectual property; it's very physical. Real, even

Re: Unable to install Debian 7.5.0

2014-05-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 01:09:03PM +0530, Saptarshi Kapas wrote: Hi, I downloaded debian-7.5.0 from this following location http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.5.0/i386/iso-dvd/ . After download i burn this iso in dvd. After that when i am trying to install this to my local machine,

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:30 PM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: In fact, in the United States, to copyright something you have to provide a copy of the material to the Copyright Office. So there is always at least one copy of something available. Are you sure of that? I thought

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:26 PM, The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 05/19/2014 09:18 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:30 PM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: In fact, in the United States, to copyright something you have to provide a copy

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:52 PM, The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote: I was just thinking of a slightly more limited approach: decide that if the work is covered by DRM, then unless a non-DRMed copy is on file with the central archive, anti-circumvention law does not apply. In other

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 12:51 AM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: (presumably quoting someone else's post) Per 6.3.2, I use my casting vote to choose D as the winner. Sorry for the dumb question, but what does the section number refer to? I feel I've missed some context here. ChrisA --

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 1:45 AM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: The section number: https://www.debian.org/devel/constitution The context and the mail I quoted from: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=727708 Thanks! That's what I was missing. ChrisA -- To

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:33:48PM +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: England (or Great Britain - I'm not sure which) in the late 1800s. One of my other interests, Gilbert and Sullivan, is notably impacted by that, as the license copy of a play wasn't necessarily identical to what ended up being

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 01:39:35PM +0200, Erwan David wrote: 2) When lawmakers are paid to orient what they do this is usually called corruption. Unfortunately, what is corruption in one country is just common business practice in another. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 11:54:52AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On 5/18/14, Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/17/2014 07:55 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Nobody forces you to install the add-on, certainly not Mozilla or Debian. And that is the part I don't get. Anyone is free to

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 09:17:46PM -0400, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote: - Original Message - From: Martin Vegter Sent: 05/18/14 01:58 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: systemd situation in Jesssie Hello, I have servers running Jessie. Can I continue upgrading

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-18 Thread Chris Angelico
than what Apple tries to do: use *our* hardware and *our* software in *our* ways, or you're violating the TOS. Is that the freedom you want? Chris Angelico -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 1:19 AM, Slavko li...@slavino.sk wrote: The Samba doesn't allow to use of proprietary software. Samba only uses the SMB protocol (i can be wrong, but it is standardized), which Windows uses (as primary) too. But you can connect two Samba between themselves, then no

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 1:26 AM, Slavko li...@slavino.sk wrote: Dňa Sat, 17 May 2014 21:00:48 +0900 Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com napísal: What Mozilla is doing is providing a framework for keeping the companies that want into your computer out, by providing them tools to get only what the

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-18 Thread Chris Angelico
, or a reason for avoiding GNOME. (And more likely the former.) Chris Angelico -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/captjjmrmiz3-bqrjejcfn26oxml

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 12:50:44PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: I can hold a stone, or a stick, and whilst I hold it, it is mine. Unless you stole it ... hey wait a minute, where's my sticks and stones! -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being

Re: Tails

2014-05-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 06:10:44PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 17 May 2014 00:12:48 Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote: BTW what is Tails? Is it the next version of Debian? The current version 7.5 is codenamed Wheezy, correct? Yes, correct. And Testing is Jessie. But Tails is not the

Re: evolution

2014-05-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 03:45:52PM +0200, wi wrote: Hi, I want to use evolution on my desktop-pc and on my laptop and - of course - I want to synchronize all data from it. Is there a possibility? Yes. IMAP is one I know of. What has your Google search come up with? -- If you're not

Re: holding a package against upgrades

2014-05-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 09:31:37AM -0600, United States Ret. wrote: I have been using sid and do not want iceweasel 29. I have decided to revert to iceweasel 24.5 and have now put that on hold (=) in dselect and worry that will override my decision and upgrade anyway. Is there a better way

Re: Confusion

2014-05-13 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 10:42:10PM -0700, Joshua Anthony wrote: My apologies to those who feel that I have wasted their time and thanks to those who have tried to help. I don't know how I managed to start two threads but this whole business well illustrates the confusion that I originally

Re: [SOLVED] Text files treated like html in apache 2.4

2014-05-13 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 06:59:17PM -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: On Mon, 12 May 2014 20:28:24 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: ... But with Apache 2.4, it treats the text file like html and reformats everything, concatenating lines, eliminating blank lines, etc. How do I get it to treat

Re: [OT] How long is an unused HD 'new'?

2014-05-12 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: I fed a mouse to an intertube seer... could this be what Curt refers too? http://www.ngohq.com/news/19805-critical-design-flaw-found-in-wd-caviar-green-hdds.html I don't know about eight seconds as a

Re: Wheezy 64 bits et scanner

2014-05-11 Thread Chris Debian
firmware file... * enfin j'ai ajouté les utilisateurs concernés au *groupe scanner*. Par exemple pour mon utilisateur : /sudo addgroup chris scanner/ J'utilise mon scanner sous Gimp via XSane : Fichier - Créer - XSane - Device dialog Je confirme que le fait d'être en 64 bits n'a pas eu

Re: you don\u2019t know if you don\u2019t ask

2014-05-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 06:36:34PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 11/05/14 17:06, Sharon Kimble wrote: But is there a system-wide solution, just in case it starts happening in some other programme please? Try enabling utf (it's the in thing). IOW, what is the output of the 'locale'

Re: Problems getting Debian DVD to work (Re: Confusion)

2014-05-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 10:57:38AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: I'm trying to suppress laughter while I type this. Are you saying that there was a suspicion that somebody used what, xfburn, to put a single file on an optical disc, and that single file was the .iso intended to put an iso9660 or UDF

Re: Confusion

2014-05-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 06:03:35PM -0700, Joshua Anthony wrote: I have used GNU Linux for years - trying out several distros, all by downloading the Iso file and writing to CD. Ubuntu, Slackware, Puppy, and Gnewsense all install just fine after simply right-clicking on the file and selecting

Re: What happened to palimpsest disk utility in Jessie?

2014-05-05 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 10:40:06AM +, Артур Истомин wrote: AFAIUI it's been renamed Disks and the executable is /usr/bin/gnome-disks. WTF AFAIUI? ) WTF WTF? GIYF -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people

Re: Upgrade debacle........

2014-05-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 07:48:45AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 22:56 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: On 05/01/2014 02:37 PM, Selim T. Erdogan wrote: At the time, I didn't check to see if the file /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache existed.

Decent screenshot site. (was ... Re: JWM )

2014-05-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 10:40:39AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I'm not booted to my Debian now, so here's a screenshot of my Arch's JWM: http://picpaste.com/pics/jwm.1399019915.png Ouch! try this tal% wget 'http://picpaste.com/pics/jwm.1399019915.png' --2014-05-04 01:01:20--

Re: Upgrade debacle........

2014-05-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, May 03, 2014 at 12:06:21PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 03 mai 14, 18:25:59, Chris Bannister wrote: On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 07:48:45AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: It was an issue for the OP. It's disputable if somebody who can't solve such an issue on her/his own, should

Re: iceweasel and mozilla-acroread

2014-05-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 02:51:07PM -0400, Dale Harris wrote: Just heard from Christian Marrilat, he's going to get rid of mozilla-acroread: You must forget this package. Now iceweasel include is own pdf reader. Remove this package (I'll also remove this package from my repository) and try to

Re: Upgrade debacle........

2014-05-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 09:12:08AM +1000, Charlie wrote: I reported Bug#742875 which I noticed on an upgrade. Can you add anything to it? I thought that if a command should be issued to implement an upgrade, it would have been run during that upgrade. eg. Halting cups printing system.

Re: name resolution

2014-05-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 12:48:47PM +0530, L V Gandhi wrote: I have name resolution problem in my debian virtual machine. In my host operating system name resolution is ok. Even in debian, ping works. But wget says resolution error as follows. lvgandhi@lvgacersqueeze:~$ ping -c4

Re: Upgrade debacle........

2014-04-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 01:08:09PM +1000, Charlie wrote: Using Debian testing 3.12-1-amd64 Updated and upgraded this morning was told to run this: gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache It didn't do anything of course and when I

Re: dict - phrase challenged

2014-04-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 05:22:50PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Anyone know why my giyf searches and man page readings are failing to What is giyf? determine how to search the gnu/linux dictionaries for a phrase? A dictionary is a book of words, you should be searching a book of phrases.

Re: Systemd

2014-04-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 01:33:30PM +0100, Brian wrote: On Sat 26 Apr 2014 at 12:08:07 +, Curt wrote: On 2014-04-26, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: A not buggy horse and buggy. Isn't that a quote from Travels on the Fringes of Surrey by Orson Cart? He might have

Re: Mobile Broadband with Btooth

2014-04-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 08:43:42AM +0200, Gábor Hársfalvi wrote: Hi, How to do that? It always refuse connecting Sorry to be blunt: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and

Re: Mobile Broadband with Btooth

2014-04-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 10:32:45AM +0200, Gábor Hársfalvi wrote: It send me in logs - Port already in use Have you googled the 'exact' error message? This more often than not can lead you on the right track to solving 96.75% of most issues. :) So you need to find out what is already using that

Re: Systemd

2014-04-26 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Joe Pfeiffer pfeif...@cs.nmsu.edu wrote: I've never had a car stop dead due to the idle mixture going out of spec. When something has gone seriously enough wrong with one of my cars to stop it, the fact that it had a carburetor (as my daily driver, a '78

Re: Systemd

2014-04-25 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:31 PM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: We can expect a fork in the kernel fairly soon, about as soon as certain leaders in the community are confident they can make the current main branch the meaningless one going forward. I'm a user, not a kernel dev, and

Re: Systemd

2014-04-25 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 1:21 AM, Ólafur Jens Sigurðsson ojs...@gmail.com wrote: It would be nice to see a comparison of features without any kind of judgement of each merit or con. As soon as people start saying this feature is better then that one that's when the cat gets loose I think, no

Re: System

2014-04-25 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 3:30 AM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: Please, no! If you've read all of the posts to #727708 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=727708 carefully you'll find there is probably nothing original to say. ... and if I read all of the seven thousand

Re: Systemd

2014-04-25 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 10:59 PM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: Please, can someone explain - without too much on the politics, if that's possible - whether it's right for me to invest time into learning systemd

Re: Well I am in XFCE for right now since LDXE keeps crapping out

2014-04-24 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: I wrote the following essay about the point made in the preceding paragraph: http://www.troubleshooters.com/tpromag/200104/200104.htm#_editors_desk Time changes many things. For the most part, switching to Linux is

Re: Well I am in XFCE for right now since LDXE keeps crapping out

2014-04-24 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 2:44 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 02:16 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: [snip] Did you really read Steve's blog? Only the one linked-to article. ChrisA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Logging of commands in a bash script to a file

2014-04-23 Thread Chris Davies
echo $* $LOG $@ # Could capture $? (exit status), stdout, stderr, etc. if desired } # ...later... ExecAndLog $IP route add ...whatever... ExecAndLog $IP route add ...whatever... ExecAndLog $IP route add ...whatever... Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Well I am in XFCE for right now since LDXE keeps crapping out

2014-04-22 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 22 April 2014 05:51:33 c. marlow wrote: Im so exhausted I just about give up on Linux, just about ready to scrape up the money, go to walmart and buy me a Windows Machine.. In the last week I have tried LMDE

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