Re: Oh, NO! Not that same No Sound question again... (Sound now working)

2004-11-18 Thread listcomm
Just in case anyone can use the two bits of information I turned up... Having tried everything I could find to try to make the OSS (i810_audio) driver work, based on what little information I could find about it in the docs or online , I finally gave up and compiled and installed Alsa drivers for

Unidentified subject!

2004-11-10 Thread listcomm
i810_audio 21248 0 ac97_codec 9568 0 [i810_audio] soundcore 3236 2 [i810_audio] What kernel version is this? 2.4.18-bf2.4 (sorry, should have included that originally) How recent is the alsaconf package? If you try unloading all OSS modules

Re: Oh, NO! Not that same No Sound question again...

2004-11-10 Thread listcomm
i810_audio 21248 0 ac97_codec 9568 0 [i810_audio] soundcore 3236 2 [i810_audio] What kernel version is this? 2.4.18-bf2.4 (sorry, should have included that originally) How recent is the alsaconf package? If you try unloading all OSS

Re: Oh, NO! Not that same No Sound question again...

2004-11-09 Thread listcomm
lsmod? Does your driver show up? Yes... following is snipped from lsmod output: i810_audio 21248 0 ac97_codec 9568 0 [i810_audio] soundcore 3236 2 [i810_audio] In syslog, does it get activated? Like: debian kernel: ad1848/cs4248 codec driver

Re: Lilo boot from second drive?

2004-11-09 Thread listcomm
If you're trying to do what I think you're trying to do (make the second (Linux) hard drive your default boot drive while allowing the choice of booting on the first (Gatesjunk) drive, I just (finally after a knock-down drag-out) solved that problem... (it's actually documented more or less). You

Oh, NO! Not that same No Sound question again...

2004-11-08 Thread listcomm
Yeah, that same No Sound question again. But I can't find an answer that's gotten my sound working anywhere, so I'll give this list a try. I have an Intel 82820 (Camino 2) chipset and a stable Woody. I've installed the i810_audio driver (via /etc/modules). lspci output looks OK. both /dev/audio

Xserver authorization/security

2004-09-07 Thread listcomm
I'm trying to get my single-user system set up so that programs running as root to be able to open windows, etc. (ref. the infernal message Not allowed to connect to server, etc. etc.) Thus far, I've been able to get this to work by five methods: (1) login and start xdm as root, (2) use su -m

Re: Xserver authorization/security

2004-09-07 Thread listcomm
Thanks - and, you're right, and I had forgotten that; .login is a shell feature. (I probably didn't look in the csh or tcsh manuals...) The Xauthority tactic, if I understand correctly, is similar to using xauth; you have to run something from your login shell one way or another. What I'm

Re: Configuring X

2004-09-07 Thread listcomm
maybe somebody already suggested this, but, you can make xdm write a default config file if you feed it the right option - xdm --help will list the options, I think (and it may not be in the docs...) I had to do that to get the display to work at all; the default config file that the Debian

Re: All these open ports

2004-08-25 Thread listcomm
So what are exactly are you worried about? A program uploading sensitive data to a random server? Well the easiest way for a program to do that is to invoke sendmail to e-mail the information to the server. In which case the program never attempts to open a port, your m-t-a does. Your

Re: All these open ports

2004-08-25 Thread listcomm
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 13:05:00 +0800, Katipo [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: In any case, I've as yet been unable to find any way of getting detection and authorization of outgoing requests with any of the Linux firewalls, or with IPtables - although I can hardly say that I've thoroughly done my

Re: anonymous proxy

2004-08-22 Thread listcomm
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 23:36:45 +0200, messmate [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi, is there an anonymous proxy server available by debian ? If not where else for linux ? Oops!! Look out!!! You've asked Der Verboten Question!! You vill be SHOTT!! You are obviously a spammer and etc. etc. blah

Re: anonymous proxy

2004-08-22 Thread listcomm
Can you please point me to the corresponding thread, as it simply can't be the one at http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/08/msg00996.html, at least not according to your description. Yes, that's the one. I am of course being deliberately extreme in my characterization, but the

Re: All these open ports

2004-08-22 Thread listcomm
If a port is open, and associated with a program which isn't from a debian package and you don't believe you put it there yourself - its time to consider the possibility your machine has been compromised. Okay... that gives me an opening to try this again. At the risk of provoking the usual

Re: Firewall packages (was: All these open ports)

2004-08-22 Thread listcomm
You could get something close to Zone Alarm (minus the application permissions stuff) with a very short iptables script which set the policies for INPUT and FORWARD to DROP, and OUTPUT to ACCEPT, and adding a couple of rules for allowing related and established connections on the INPUT

Re: anonymous proxy

2004-08-22 Thread listcomm
I think there may be a point of confusion here... Are you looking for a packaged proxy server to run on a Linux system? I think - and I'm hardly the one to ask - that you can use squid for this, and I've seen reference to several other implementations. In fact, it's not that difficult to

Re: problem installing Sendmail

2004-08-22 Thread listcomm
I'm familiar with, and comfortable with, Sendmail. So, when Debian tries to install Exim I just say, No thank you, and install Sendmail. It was no problem at all. I think... based on what I've heard here on this topic, that If I Had It To Do Over Again, that is what I would do also. But

Re: Debian Update

2004-08-22 Thread listcomm
and make sure your /etc/apt/source.list not pointing to your cd installation( except you want to install new package from it ) Why not? An upgrade will always get the latest packages, and install will do the same, as long as you have an update source as well as the CDs in

Re: problem installing Sendmail

2004-08-17 Thread listcomm
What do you mean, may come back ... again? I believe sendmail is still the most widely used MTA on the Internet. It's never gone away. Well, I don't keep track of these things in detail. I started hacking sendmail in 1984 or something, I forget. It looked like it worked OK to me. Then

Re: OT:Hardly any messages getting through

2004-08-17 Thread listcomm
I guess now it's my turn in the rape room; I haven't gotten anything from the list after August 15. (I see my subsequent post has showed up there, though.) Ordinarily, I would indulge a paranoid conspiracy theory to the effect that I'd been thrown off the list, but since there are others

Re: problem installing Sendmail

2004-08-17 Thread listcomm
Nah. Debian's real sane that way. If you install exim, it first uninstalls your other MTA. You mean, it *tries* to uninstall it... all it takes is one screw-up to put me in the O-zone with things like that. What if (*just* for insatance) the other MTA used different versions of some

Re: Firewall packages (was: All these open ports)

2004-08-17 Thread listcomm
There are other available packages: I use FireHOL I used to use iptables + wondershaper in RH. I notice there are many ready-made firewall packages available in Debian. I'm wondering which one is recommended (ease to use/updated frequently, etc)? So am I, but I don't think this is the right

Re: Help using Apt-Get

2004-08-17 Thread listcomm
Reading Package Lists... Error! E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room That, IIRC, is a bug which has been there since day 0 and has to be corrected by putting an entry expanding your cache size, in the apt.conf file. I'm hazy on the details (it's been a MONTH already) but you can google for the

Re: Linux help system (Was: -= Re: I hate it when that happens...)

2004-08-17 Thread listcomm
I recently engaged with exim, and if it weren't for the fact that I found an obscure reference buried in the back yard in the dead of night, to the fact that there is an exim-docs package which needed to be loaded *in addition* to the exim docs which turn up in the /usr/share/docs directory, I

Re: problem installing Sendmail

2004-08-14 Thread listcomm
It is available. Fire up one of the installers, turn off what you don't want, turn on what you do, then let 'er rip. You may need to be in something like Custom Install Mode or something to get this, but that's just to save newbie butts. You can do what you want to. I thought about that,

Re: problem installing Sendmail

2004-08-13 Thread listcomm
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 01:44:04 +0100, Thomas Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 01:39:23AM +0100, Carlos Sousa wrote: You mean, the OP decided for himself which MTA to use, instead of just accepting whatever MTA the current Debian Cabal chooses to shove down his throat?

Re: All these open ports

2004-08-13 Thread listcomm
I've just noticed that my debian testing open many ports by default: tcp0 0 *:dict *:* LISTEN tcp0 0 *:time *:* LISTEN tcp0 0 *:discard *:*

Linux help system (Was: -= Re: I hate it when that happens...)

2004-08-12 Thread listcomm
It's built in in - at least in bash ;) Not only that, but (correct me if I'm wrong - that's why I'm posting this) it appears that the docs for some things are split into docs that appear in HTML in /usr/share/docs, and docs that appear via the help command (the data for which is stored

Re: [Rant] The Endless Search for a Mail Client That Doesn't Suck

2004-08-09 Thread listcomm
FWIW... maybe my demands are just too small, but I've been using MH mail for... for hmmm... 25 years, now? maybe? and because it's command-line oriented, whenever it does something I don't like or doesn't do something I want, I write shell scripts to bludgeon it into submission as

Re: scripts Re: [Rant] The Endless Search for a Mail Client That Doesn't Suck

2004-08-09 Thread listcomm
there's a gui for mh too Yes... thanks for reminding me, I was going to say something about that, for the benefit of whoever is bemoaning his mail system... it's exmh (formerly xmh), and is implemented AFAIK entirely in TCL, which can be customized to change the GUI (or blow it off the air and

Re: [Rant] The Endless Search for a Mail Client That Doesn't Suck

2004-08-09 Thread listcomm
Downloading the contents of imap folders goes far to defeat the purpose of IMAP: I can read the same mail ising different IMAP clients on different computers and across different operating systems. Well, some of the mailers supposedly will Synchronize (yeah, right) your local folder image

Re: [Rant] The Endless Search for a Mail Client That Doesn't Suck

2004-08-09 Thread listcomm
Downloading the contents of imap folders goes far to defeat the purpose of IMAP: I can read the same mail ising different IMAP clients on different computers and across different operating systems. Well, some of the mailers supposedly will Synchronize (yeah, right) your local folder image

Re: Want anonymous proxy server IP address mapping utility

2004-08-09 Thread listcomm
No, we will not help you spam. I have no idea what you're talking about; AFAIK the anonymous proxies only remap browser requests. Are you implying that some of them will forward *email*?? (That, I find hard to believe...) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: Want anonymous proxy server IP address mapping utility

2004-08-09 Thread listcomm
I've seen Squid logs where someone was giving it a bloody good go. In any event, you didn't say _what_ you want to proxy. Okay... well, I thought it was just common knowledge, but the various proxy servers out there, with various degrees of transparency and anonymity and this and that, AFAIK

Re: I hate it when that happens...

2004-08-08 Thread listcomm
Nah, screw all that noise. Half the fun of executing 'rm' is the fact that you know you have a loaded revolver on your temple. Keeps you on your toes, which I think makes me a smarter user. Do I have backups? Is this crisp? Am I thinking clearly? But, half the fun of committing

Re: I hate it when that happens...

2004-08-08 Thread listcomm
And then you sit down at another machine, blindly type in rm thinking it will babysit your stuff into the trashcan, and it doesn't. Oops. Bandaids are temporary, substandard replacements for real skin. No way. I have NEVER done that. I live in terror of the rm command and am merely

Re: I hate it when that happens...

2004-08-08 Thread listcomm
Well, I don't want to trade manly quips with you all night, but my point was something like don't mess up, and have backups. Unless you have something like snapshot running, you will invariably lose whatever it is that you've just been working on, backups or not. Additionally, it doesn't take

Re: I hate it when that happens...

2004-08-08 Thread listcomm
Unless you have something like snapshot running, you will invariably lose whatever it is that you've just been working on, backups or not. So go use Solaris. Solaris is not optimized for the X86 architecture; also, it is a disk hog. Additionally, as I mentioned, the snapshot feature eats

Want anonymous proxy server IP address mapping utility

2004-08-08 Thread listcomm
Thus far, my web searches have not turned up anything like the Windows multiproxy, winnow, etc. utilities for Linux. I know I can set up for anonymous proxy use on a one-at-a-time basis, but I want the (very useful) additional features of the above mentioned Gatesware-based utilities. Does anyone

Re: I hate it when that happens...

2004-08-07 Thread listcomm
You should have a soft remove... rm -rf * is a joke so old I can't believe anyone still gets bitten by it. the rm command should be aliased to a script which moves the target file to a trashcan directory somewhere which then gets checked by a cron job which does a permanent remove of any files

Re: How can I get all IP transactions (in/out) logged?

2004-07-31 Thread listcomm
Yes iptables can do this. I know iptables can log to syslog, and believe there are ways to make it log to SQL, but I am unfamiliar with those. . . ... Thanks - that sounds like a plan... (I knew I wouldn't escape dealing with iptables). I would think this capability would be built into

Re: What are the dangers of using packages from both stable and testing?

2004-07-30 Thread listcomm
What are the dangers of using packages from both stable and testing? Okay... I got told by someone on this list: (a) that it is system suicide, and (b) that the fact that it is system suicide is well-documented in many places with ample dire warnings in 384 languages including Martian. But I

Re: How can I get all IP transactions (in/out) logged?

2004-07-28 Thread listcomm
It seems to me that the log won't necessarily be very large. It really depends on how the connection is being used, doesn't it? An hours worth of log from a dialup connection couldn't be very large, for example. Of course, on a broadband connection with lots of websites being visited or

How can I get all IP transactions (in/out) logged?

2004-07-27 Thread listcomm
I just want a basic log file containing the source and destination addresses for all traffic in and out of via PPP, so that I can keep track of what connections to outside IP addresses are made, and from where (externally, or from something running on my system) they originated. I've turned on

Re: Debian install breaks on 'Configuring Locales'

2004-07-25 Thread listcomm
Now I've dl'd the Debian CD iso images and burned them to disks. This is with the 'Woody' 30r2-i386 set of seven CD's, plus the updates CD. Okay, that's *exactly* what *I* did... except for the update CD (h) But it breaks each time at 'Configuring Locales'. You can select more

Re: Debian install breaks on 'Configuring Locales'

2004-07-25 Thread listcomm
Now I find it easier to restore a minimal verion ow Windows from a Linux-made backup rather than reinstall after a major Windows-doesn't-boot-anymore grade disaster. (happens every few months). Everyone using this system has been warned to avoid putting any essential data on the C:

Re: Confounded by Firestarter Issues... (update)

2004-07-22 Thread listcomm
Okay... I've figured out a couple of things. I'll post them here in case anyone else gets in the same trouble. There are hints of solutions to all this in various places scattered around the Web, but nothing explicit or in one place, that I could find. Basically, I just spent enough time

Re: Confounded by Firestarter Issues...

2004-07-21 Thread listcomm
Heresy? Why? There is a consensus of some sort among some security people that (a) personal firewalls are useless, (b) using ipchains, iptables, or anything layered thereupon (like Firestarter)to attempt to construct one is a waste of time. (Obviously I don't care what they think, or I

Re: Confounded by Firestarter Issues...

2004-07-21 Thread listcomm
Heresy? Why? There is a consensus of some sort among some security people that (a) personal firewalls are useless, (b) using ipchains, iptables, or anything layered thereupon (like Firestarter)to attempt to construct one is a waste of time. (Obviously I don't care what they think, or I

Re: Confounded by Firestarter Issues...

2004-07-21 Thread listcomm
Heresy? Why? There is a consensus of some sort among some security people that (a) personal firewalls are useless, (b) using ipchains, iptables, or anything layered thereupon (like Firestarter)to attempt to construct one is a waste of time. (Obviously I don't care what they think, or I

Re: Confounded by Firestarter Issues...

2004-07-21 Thread listcomm
Heresy? Why? There is a consensus of some sort among some security people that (a) personal firewalls are useless, (b) using ipchains, iptables, or anything layered thereupon (like Firestarter)to attempt to construct one is a waste of time. (Obviously I don't care what they think, or I

Re: Confounded by Firestarter Issues...

2004-07-21 Thread listcomm
Heresy? Why? There is a consensus of some sort among some security people that (a) personal firewalls are useless, (b) using ipchains, iptables, or anything layered thereupon (like Firestarter)to attempt to construct one is a waste of time. (Obviously I don't care what they think, or I

Re: Confounded by Firestarter Issues...

2004-07-21 Thread listcomm
Heresy? Why? There is a consensus of some sort among some security people that (a) personal firewalls are useless, (b) using ipchains, iptables, or anything layered thereupon (like Firestarter)to attempt to construct one is a waste of time. (Obviously I don't care what they think, or I

Re: Confounded by Firestarter Issues...

2004-07-21 Thread listcomm
Heresy? Why? There is a consensus of some sort among some security people that (a) personal firewalls are useless, (b) using ipchains, iptables, or anything layered thereupon (like Firestarter)to attempt to construct one is a waste of time. (Obviously I don't care what they think, or I

sorry...

2004-07-21 Thread listcomm
I see the multiple messages. this web mailer is really, really, REALLY screwed up. fortunately, I think I know what the bug is and can avoid triggering it from here on... just damn. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: Confounded by Firestarter Issues...

2004-07-21 Thread listcomm
Heresy? Why? There is a consensus of some sort among some security people that (a) personal firewalls are useless, (b) using ipchains, iptables, or anything layered thereupon (like Firestarter)to attempt to construct one is a waste of time. (Obviously I don't care what they think, or I

Re: recommendation for digital camera -= Shameless Nikon plug

2004-07-20 Thread listcomm
I am using Nikon 4300 with linux and I am able to access it as mass storage without any problem. I just have to mount the camera as usb mass storage and copy the image files to my hdd. If any body is interested in having more info, kindly let me know. Yeah, Me! I have a 5700 and will

Re: how to sweep hard disk of confidential data

2004-07-20 Thread listcomm
You guys are all overlooking the obvious. All that is required to completely destroy every bit of data on a disk drive so that it cannot possibly be retrieved, is to make sure the drive is completely filled with absolutely vital data that has not been backed up anywhere. That will guarantee with

Re: recommendation for digital camera -= Shameless Nikon plug

2004-07-20 Thread listcomm
Just out of curiosity, what does that SW offer? Well, there are several packages, one of which is always bundled with the camera and the others for sale separately. The Nikon website is a better source of info than I am, actually. But the direct camera support package provides USB detection,

Re: recommendation for digital camera -= Shameless Nikon plug

2004-07-20 Thread listcomm
In that case I would also suggest you avoid anything Sony. I've never seen worse customer support (and that even for very high end equipment company customers, not just the small end user), and when they do bother making a proper piece of hardware they seriously cripple it with their

Re: recommendation for digital camera -= Shameless Nikon plug

2004-07-18 Thread listcomm
I suppose this has wandered far enough OT from Linux that I can weigh in on it... After using Nikon's website/email support, I will not buy anything else. I bought a dead (as it turned out) Nikon film scanner at a swap meet a couple of years back, plugged it into Windoze, and started in on it.

Re: apt-get says file a bug report - Should I?

2004-07-15 Thread listcomm
Oh, fooey. You're corroborating all of my worst suspicions. Oh well... OK, to make sure I'm understanding you, you're running stable, and you want to install firestarter out of testing. Is that right? well, the version of Firestarter that supports KDE is *only* available as a testing

Re: apt-get says file a bug report - Should I?

2004-07-15 Thread listcomm
It is a missing dependency problem. | and how do I get | apt-get/dpkg/dselect/whoever to cough up the facts of the case? It did! :-). (see the end of the long apt message where it talks about unmet dependencies) Well, yes and no. It's implying that somehow its inability to resolve

Re: Newbie problems galore

2004-07-15 Thread listcomm
I need to pass things back-and-forth between Linux and Windoze. I see references to VFAT FS on the web site, but for the life of me, I can't find a trace of the software. It's really bad to have to play games with tar at both sides of the route in order not to munge up the magic

Re: dselect alternatives

2004-07-14 Thread listcomm
What are you thinking dselect does for you that apt-get doesn't? well, this is just an anecdote (the singular of data...), but - Yesterday apt-get maliciously lunched my install(okay, okay, I was trying to upgrade firestarter even though apt-get told me to file a bug report because it

apt-get says file a bug report - Should I?

2004-07-14 Thread listcomm
Here's the transaction... floozy:~# apt-get install firestarter Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that

is it possible to change apt-get

2004-07-08 Thread listcomm
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is it possible to change apt-get's access priorities?

2004-07-08 Thread listcomm
(I think a bogus copy of this went out... my apologies) I'm on a dialup, and I have the Woody CD-ROM distribution, so I want apt-get to first try to find packages on the CDs before using the remote archive entries in sources.list. But as soon as I add an http entry to sources.list, it insists on

Re: is it possible to change apt-get's access priorities?

2004-07-08 Thread listcomm
Well, yes, I had read that... several times. (Not that the answer may not be in there and I'm staring right at it and not seeing it, *but...*). I'm able to make apt-get work from either CD-ROM or from the archive. I've got all the entries for the CD-ROM and the archives correct. The problem is

Re: is it possible to change apt-get's access priorities?

2004-07-08 Thread listcomm
Thanks! Yes, that's essentially what I'm after. I don't have an apt.preferences file... I'll generate one as you suggest. I read what docs. I found on the apt.preferences file, and couldn't figure out how it would fix my priority problem with the CD-ROM for the stable release, since the CD-ROM