Re: Tbird and square brackets in subject field - was - Re: Parenthesis or square brackets and "was"

2024-06-02 Thread Max Nikulin
intentional here? E.g. thunderbird strips "(was:" subject part from response subject. [...] "Re: [GNC] Problem with New Account Creation" is apparently not molested by Tbird. [...] "Re: [solved] Re: No login with Debian 12 ssh client, ssh-rsa key, Debian 8 sshd"

Re: Tbird and square brackets in subject field - was - Re: Parenthesis or square brackets and "was"

2024-06-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 3/6/24 01:16, Bret Busby wrote: On 3/6/24 01:09, Bret Busby wrote: On 3/6/24 01:06, Bret Busby wrote: On 3/6/24 00:52, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 6/1/24 23:02, Max Nikulin wrote: On 02/06/2024 02:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: If you change subject or emphasis in mid-thread, please change

Re: Tbird and square brackets in subject field - was - Re: Parenthesis or square brackets and "was"

2024-06-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 3/6/24 01:09, Bret Busby wrote: On 3/6/24 01:06, Bret Busby wrote: On 3/6/24 00:52, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 6/1/24 23:02, Max Nikulin wrote: On 02/06/2024 02:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: If you change subject or emphasis in mid-thread, please change the subject line on your email

Tbird and square brackets in subject field - was - Re: Parenthesis or square brackets and "was"

2024-06-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 3/6/24 01:06, Bret Busby wrote: On 3/6/24 00:52, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 6/1/24 23:02, Max Nikulin wrote: On 02/06/2024 02:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: If you change subject or emphasis in mid-thread, please change the subject line on your email accordingly so that this can be clearly seen

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2024-05-24 Thread jacques.briquet
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Re: Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-28 Thread Curt
On 2024-04-22, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > > TL;DR: Copying an existing /home into a fresh Debian installation > causes audio in Steam games to glitch - but all other sound is OK. I have only the most vaporous ideas about Steam, but have you tried backing up and then recreating (if such a thing is

Re: Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-23 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I doubt the new drive is slower than the old drive: Overall, agreed. Tho AFAICT the new drive spins slower (5400rpm vs 7200rpm), so it has a slightly higher rotational latency. This means that in *some* cases it can be slower. Now, I have no idea whether that's the cause of the glitches.

Re: Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-23 Thread David Christensen
On 4/23/24 09:02, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Charlie Gibbs wrote: On 2024-04-22 16:50, Jeffrey Walton wrote: What are the old and new hard drive model numbers and specs? The old drive is a Western Digital WD5000YS (500GB SATA). The new drive is a Western Digital Red, WF40EFPX (4TB

Re: Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-23 Thread David Christensen
On 4/22/24 21:26, Charlie Gibbs wrote: On 2024-04-22 16:50, Jeffrey Walton wrote: What are the old and new hard drive model numbers and specs? The old drive is a Western Digital WD5000YS (500GB SATA).

Re: Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-23 Thread debian-user
Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2024-04-22 16:50, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > What are the old and new hard drive model numbers and specs? > > The old drive is a Western Digital WD5000YS (500GB SATA). > The new drive is a Western Digital Red, WF40EFPX (4TB SATA). According to my searches, there's

Re: Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-22 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On 2024-04-22 16:50, Jeffrey Walton wrote: What are the old and new hard drive model numbers and specs? The old drive is a Western Digital WD5000YS (500GB SATA). The new drive is a Western Digital Red, WF40EFPX (4TB SATA). If the old hard drive was spinning rust, it is acceptable to replace

Re: Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-22 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 5:03 AM Charlie Gibbs wrote: > I should probably be posting this to the Steam forums, but > most of the denizens there are Windows people so I might be > better off letting you Debian gurus have a go at it first. > > TL;DR: Copying an existing /home into a fresh Debian

Re: Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-22 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Recently I decided to upgrade its storage capacity, and replaced > its 500GB hard drive (which was pretty large at the time I bought > it) with a 4TB drive. I did an install from scratch using a > network install CD, then copied my /home partition (using rsync) > from the old drive. [...] >

Re: Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-22 Thread David Christensen
On 4/21/24 22:33, Charlie Gibbs wrote: I should probably be posting this to the Steam forums, but most of the denizens there are Windows people so I might be better off letting you Debian gurus have a go at it first. TL;DR: Copying an existing /home into a fresh Debian installation causes audio

Re: Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-22 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-04-21, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > Obviously my Steam programs and configuration files are in my > home directory, since the updated system comes up icons and all > without re-installing Steam, and can find everything it needs to > run the games. But perhaps there are a few files somewhere

Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-21 Thread Charlie Gibbs
I should probably be posting this to the Steam forums, but most of the denizens there are Windows people so I might be better off letting you Debian gurus have a go at it first. TL;DR: Copying an existing /home into a fresh Debian installation causes audio in Steam games to glitch - but all

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2024-03-03 Thread Andre Rodier
Hello, I was checking the Debian domain, and noticed that it is DNSSEC compliant. However, when I check "deb.debian.org", the DNS validation fails. Is there any reason behind this, please ? Thanks, André Rodier.

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-16 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 08:02:12AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: What Thomas was trying to do is to get a cheap, fast random number generator. Shred seems to have such. You're better off with /dev/urandom, it's much easier to understand what it's trying to do, vs the rather baroque logic in

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-14 Thread David Wright
On Tue 13 Feb 2024 at 11:21:08 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 09:35:11AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 13 Feb 2024 at 07:15:48 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 11:01:47PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > > … but not much. For me,

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-13 Thread tomas
On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 01:03:44PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 2/13/24 09:40, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > Shred will determine the size of the file, then write data to the > > > file, rewind, write data again, etc. On a traditional hard drive, >

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-13 Thread gene heskett
On 2/13/24 16:00, David Christensen wrote: On 2/13/24 11:31, gene heskett wrote: Next experiment is a pair of 4T Silicon Power SSD's When they & the startech usb3 adapters arrive.  I'll get that NAS built for amanda yet. 2.5" SATA SSD's and SATA to USB adapter cables for $187.97 + $10.99 =

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-13 Thread David Christensen
On 2/13/24 09:40, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Greg Wooledge wrote: Shred will determine the size of the file, then write data to the file, rewind, write data again, etc. On a traditional hard drive, that will overwrite the original private information. On modern devices, it may not.

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-13 Thread David Christensen
On 2/13/24 11:31, gene heskett wrote: Next experiment is a pair of 4T Silicon Power SSD's When they & the startech usb3 adapters arrive.  I'll get that NAS built for amanda yet. 2.5" SATA SSD's and SATA to USB adapter cables for $187.97 + $10.99 = $198.96 each set?

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-13 Thread gene heskett
On 2/13/24 14:44, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: Next experiment is a pair of 4T Silicon Power SSD's When f3 has (hopefully) given its OK, the topic of a full write-and-read test will come up again. I'm looking forward to all the spin-off topics. I'll have to admit it has

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-13 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: > Next experiment is a pair of 4T Silicon Power SSD's When f3 has (hopefully) given its OK, the topic of a full write-and-read test will come up again. I'm looking forward to all the spin-off topics. Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-13 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Heh. Don't forget your own attempts to use a shredder as a PRNG stream. My original idea was to watch a minimal shred run by teeing its work into a checksummer. But then topic drift came in. So we got a farm show of random generators and a discussion about what

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-13 Thread gene heskett
On 2/13/24 12:56, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Greg Wooledge wrote: Let me write out the example again, but with the bug fixed, and then explain what each line does, [... lecture about advanced shell programming ...] And this all because Gene Heskett was adventurous enough to buy a cheap fake

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 06:54:58PM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Let me write out the example again, but with the bug fixed, and then > > explain what each line does, [... lecture about advanced shell > > programming ...] > > And this all because Gene Heskett was

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-13 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Let me write out the example again, but with the bug fixed, and then > explain what each line does, [... lecture about advanced shell > programming ...] And this all because Gene Heskett was adventurous enough to buy a cheap fake USB disk. :)) Have a nice day :)

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-13 Thread debian-user
Greg Wooledge wrote: > Shred will determine the size of the file, then write data to the > file, rewind, write data again, etc. On a traditional hard drive, > that will overwrite the original private information. On modern > devices, it may not. Thanks for the excellent explanation :) One

Re: Fast Random Data Generation (Was: Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-13 Thread Linux-Fan
David Christensen writes: On 2/12/24 08:30, Linux-Fan wrote: David Christensen writes: On 2/11/24 02:26, Linux-Fan wrote: I wrote a program to automatically generate random bytes in multiple threads: https://masysma.net/32/big4.xhtml What algorithm did you implement? I copied the

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 09:35:11AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 13 Feb 2024 at 07:15:48 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 11:01:47PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > … but not much. For me, "standard output" is /dev/fd/1, yet it seems > > > unlikely that anyone is

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-13 Thread David Wright
On Tue 13 Feb 2024 at 07:15:48 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 11:01:47PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > … but not much. For me, "standard output" is /dev/fd/1, yet it seems > > unlikely that anyone is going to use >&1 in the manner of the example. > > Standard output

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-13 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, "info shred" says: > > > i=$(mktemp) > > > exec 3<>"$i" > > > rm -- "$i" > > > echo "Hello, world" >&3 > > > shred - >&3 > > > exec 3>- Greg Wooledge wrote: > In fact, that last line is > written incorrectly. It should say "exec 3>&-" and what that does >

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-13 Thread tomas
On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 07:36:14AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 07:15:48AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > This is an obvious bug in the info page. I wonder how many years > > this has gone unnoticed. > > I've filed Bug#1063837 for it.

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 07:15:48AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > This is an obvious bug in the info page. I wonder how many years > this has gone unnoticed. I've filed Bug#1063837 for it.

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 11:01:47PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > … but not much. For me, "standard output" is /dev/fd/1, yet it seems > unlikely that anyone is going to use >&1 in the manner of the example. Standard output means "whatever file descriptor 1 points to". That could be a file, a

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-12 Thread tomas
On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 10:07:45PM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everything_is_a_file > > But, there is more than one kind of file. > > "All files are equal. > But some files are more equal than others." > > (George Orwell in his dystopic novel "Server

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-12 Thread David Wright
On Sun 11 Feb 2024 at 09:16:00 (-0600), David Wright wrote: > On Sun 11 Feb 2024 at 09:54:24 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 03:45:21PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > Still there's the discrepancy between doc and behaviour. > > > > There isn't. The documentation

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-12 Thread Max Nikulin
On 12/02/2024 05:41, David Christensen wrote: Apparently, shred(1) has both an info(1) page (?) and a man(1) page. The obvious solution is to write one document that is complete and correct, and use it everywhere -- e.g. DRY. https://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/html_node/Man-Pages.html 6.9

Re: Fast Random Data Generation (Was: Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-12 Thread David Christensen
On 2/12/24 08:30, Linux-Fan wrote: David Christensen writes: On 2/11/24 02:26, Linux-Fan wrote: I wrote a program to automatically generate random bytes in multiple threads: https://masysma.net/32/big4.xhtml What algorithm did you implement? I copied the algorithm from here:

Re: Fast Random Data Generation (Was: Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-12 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 3:02 PM Linux-Fan wrote: > > David Christensen writes: > > > On 2/11/24 02:26, Linux-Fan wrote: > >> I wrote a program to automatically generate random bytes in multiple > >> threads: > >> https://masysma.net/32/big4.xhtml > >> > >> Before knowing about `fio` this way my

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-12 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everything_is_a_file > But, there is more than one kind of file. "All files are equal. But some files are more equal than others." (George Orwell in his dystopic novel "Server Farm".) Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-12 Thread David Christensen
On 2/12/24 08:50, Curt wrote: On 2024-02-11, wrote: On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 09:54:24AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] If FILE is -, shred standard output. =20 In every sentence, the word FILE appears. There's nothing in there which says "you can operate on a non-file".

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 04:50:50PM -, Curt wrote: > On 2024-02-11, wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 09:54:24AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >>If FILE is -, shred standard output. > >>=20 > >> In every sentence, the word FILE appears. There's nothing in

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-12 Thread Curt
On 2024-02-11, wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 09:54:24AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > [...] > >>If FILE is -, shred standard output. >>=20 >> In every sentence, the word FILE appears. There's nothing in there >> which says "you can operate on a non-file". > > Point taken, yes.

Re: Fast Random Data Generation (Was: Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-12 Thread Linux-Fan
David Christensen writes: On 2/11/24 02:26, Linux-Fan wrote: I wrote a program to automatically generate random bytes in multiple threads: https://masysma.net/32/big4.xhtml Before knowing about `fio` this way my way to benchmark SSDs :) Example: | $ big4 -b /dev/null 100 GiB | Ma_Sys.ma Big

Re: Fast Random Data Generation (Was: Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-11 Thread David Christensen
On 2/11/24 02:26, Linux-Fan wrote: I wrote a program to automatically generate random bytes in multiple threads: https://masysma.net/32/big4.xhtml Before knowing about `fio` this way my way to benchmark SSDs :) Example: | $ big4 -b /dev/null 100 GiB | Ma_Sys.ma Big 4.0.2, Copyright (c) 2014,

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-11 Thread David Christensen
On 2/11/24 06:54, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 03:45:21PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 09:37:31AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 08:02:12AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] What Thomas was trying to do is to get a cheap,

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-11 Thread David Christensen
On 2/11/24 03:13, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, David Christensen wrote: Concurrency: threads throughput 8 205+198+180+195+205+184+184+189=1,540 MB/s There remains the question how to join these streams without losing speed in order to produce a single checksum. (Or one would have to

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-11 Thread David Christensen
On 2/11/24 00:07, Thomas Schmitt wrote: In the other thread about the /dev/sdm test: Gene Heskett wrote: Creating file 39.h2w ... 1.98% -- 1.90 MB/s -- 257:11:32 [...] $ sudo f3probe --destructive --time-ops /dev/sdm Bad news: The device `/dev/sdm' is a counterfeit of type limbo Device

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-11 Thread David Wright
On Sun 11 Feb 2024 at 09:54:24 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 03:45:21PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 09:37:31AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 08:02:12AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > >

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Still there's the discrepancy between doc and behaviour. Depends at which documentation you look. Obviously stemming from https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=155175#36 i read in

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-11 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 9:52 AM Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > David Christensen wrote: > > Concurrency: > > threads throughput > > 8 205+198+180+195+205+184+184+189=1,540 MB/s > > There remains the question how to join these streams without losing speed > in order to produce a single checksum.

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-11 Thread tomas
On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 09:54:24AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] >If FILE is -, shred standard output. > > In every sentence, the word FILE appears. There's nothing in there > which says "you can operate on a non-file". Point taken, yes. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description:

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 03:45:21PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 09:37:31AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 08:02:12AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [...] > > > > What Thomas was trying to do is to get a cheap, fast random number > > >

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-11 Thread tomas
On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 09:37:31AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 08:02:12AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > What Thomas was trying to do is to get a cheap, fast random number > > generator. Shred seems to have such. > > Well... I certainly wouldn't call it a

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 08:02:12AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 07:10:54PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 04:05:21PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > > > 2024-02-10 16:03:50 dpchrist@laalaa ~ > > > $ shred -s 1K - | wc -c > > > shred: -:

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-11 Thread debian-user
David Christensen wrote: > On 2/10/24 16:10, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 04:05:21PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > >> 2024-02-10 16:03:50 dpchrist@laalaa ~ > >> $ shred -s 1K - | wc -c > >> shred: -: invalid file type > >> 0 > >> > >> > >> It looks like a shred(1) needs

Re: Fast Random Data Generation (Was: Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-11 Thread Gremlin
On 2/11/24 05:26, Linux-Fan wrote: David Christensen writes: On 2/11/24 00:11, Thomas Schmitt wrote: [...] Increase block size: 2024-02-11 01:18:51 dpchrist@laalaa ~ $ dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null bs=1M count=1K 1024+0 records in 1024+0 records out 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB, 1.0 GiB)

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, David Christensen wrote: > Concurrency: > threads throughput > 8 205+198+180+195+205+184+184+189=1,540 MB/s There remains the question how to join these streams without losing speed in order to produce a single checksum. (Or one would have to divide the target into 8 areas which get

Fast Random Data Generation (Was: Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-11 Thread Linux-Fan
David Christensen writes: On 2/11/24 00:11, Thomas Schmitt wrote: [...] Increase block size: 2024-02-11 01:18:51 dpchrist@laalaa ~ $ dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null bs=1M count=1K 1024+0 records in 1024+0 records out 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB, 1.0 GiB) copied, 3.62874 s, 296 MB/s Here

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-11 Thread David Christensen
On 2/11/24 00:11, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, David Christensen wrote: $ time dd if=/dev/urandom bs=8K count=128K | wc -c [...] 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB, 1.0 GiB) copied, 4.30652 s, 249 MB/s This looks good enough for practical use on spinning rust and slow SSD. Yes. Maybe the "wc" pipe

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, David Christensen wrote: > $ time dd if=/dev/urandom bs=8K count=128K | wc -c > [...] > 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB, 1.0 GiB) copied, 4.30652 s, 249 MB/s This looks good enough for practical use on spinning rust and slow SSD. Maybe the "wc" pipe slows it down ? ... not much on 4 GHz Xeon with

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > In the other thread about the /dev/sdm test: Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Creating file 39.h2w ... 1.98% -- 1.90 MB/s -- 257:11:32 > > > [...] > > > $ sudo f3probe --destructive --time-ops /dev/sdm > > > Bad news: The device `/dev/sdm' is a counterfeit of type limbo > > > Device

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-10 Thread tomas
On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 07:10:54PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 04:05:21PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > > 2024-02-10 16:03:50 dpchrist@laalaa ~ > > $ shred -s 1K - | wc -c > > shred: -: invalid file type > > 0 > > > > > > It looks like a shred(1) needs a bug report.

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-10 Thread David Christensen
On 2/10/24 16:10, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 04:05:21PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: 2024-02-10 16:03:50 dpchrist@laalaa ~ $ shred -s 1K - | wc -c shred: -: invalid file type 0 It looks like a shred(1) needs a bug report. I'm confused what you expected this command to

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 04:05:21PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > 2024-02-10 16:03:50 dpchrist@laalaa ~ > $ shred -s 1K - | wc -c > shred: -: invalid file type > 0 > > > It looks like a shred(1) needs a bug report. I'm confused what you expected this command to do. You wanted to "destroy"

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-10 Thread David Christensen
On 2/10/24 04:40, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 11:38:21AM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: [...] But shred(1) on Debian 11 refuses on "-" contrary to its documentation: shred: -: invalid file type A non-existing file path causes "No such file or directory". Hmm. This looks

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-10 Thread David Christensen
On 2/10/24 10:28, Thomas Schmitt wrote: In the other thread about the /dev/sdm test: Creating file 39.h2w ... 1.98% -- 1.90 MB/s -- 257:11:32 but is taking a few bytes now and then. [...] $ ls -l total 40627044 [...] $ sudo f3probe --destructive --time-ops /dev/sdm Bad news: The device

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-10 Thread David Christensen
On 2/10/24 02:38, Thomas Schmitt wrote: I have an own weak-random generator, but shred beats it by a factor of 10 when writing to /dev/null. As a baseline, here is a 2011 Dell Latitude E6520 with Debian generating a non-repeatable 1 GiB stream of cryptographically secure pseudo-random

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-10 Thread gene heskett
On 2/10/24 13:30, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, gene heskett wrote: my fading eyesight couldn't see the diffs between () and {} in a 6 point font. I need a bigger, more legible font in t-bird. That's why i propose to copy+paste problematic command lines. Your mouse can read it, your mail

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-10 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, gene heskett wrote: > my fading eyesight couldn't see > the diffs between () and {} in a 6 point font. I need a bigger, more > legible font in t-bird. That's why i propose to copy+paste problematic command lines. Your mouse can read it, your mail client can send it, and we have youngsters

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-10 Thread gene heskett
On 2/10/24 05:39, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: Is bash not actually bash these days? It is not doing for loops for me. Come on Gene, be no sophie. Copy+paste your failing line here. :)) Alexander M. posted it a few days ago but my fading eyesight couldn't see the diffs

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage(WasRe: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-10 Thread gene heskett
On 2/10/24 00:54, David Christensen wrote: On 2/9/24 04:53, gene heskett wrote: Interesting report from gdisk however: GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 1.0.9 Partition table scan:    MBR: MBR only    BSD: not present    APM: not present    GPT: not present

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-10 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> AFAIK the bogus 128TB drives do properly report such ridiculous sizes: >> the reality only hits when you try to actually store that amount of >> information on them. >> [ I'm not sure how it works under the hood, but since SSDs store their >>data "anywhere" in the flash, they can easily

Re: shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-10 Thread tomas
On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 01:40:35PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 11:38:21AM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > [...] > > > But shred(1) on Debian 11 refuses on "-" contrary to its documentation: > > shred: -: invalid file type > > A non-existing file path causes "No

shred bug? [was: Unidentified subject!]

2024-02-10 Thread tomas
On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 11:38:21AM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: [...] > But shred(1) on Debian 11 refuses on "-" contrary to its documentation: > shred: -: invalid file type > A non-existing file path causes "No such file or directory". Hmm. This looks like a genuine bug: the man page

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-10 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: > Is bash not actually bash these days? It is not doing for loops for me. Come on Gene, be no sophie. Copy+paste your failing line here. :)) IIRC the for-loop in question writes several copies of the same file. (

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-10 Thread gene heskett
On 2/7/24 23:28, Stefan Monnier wrote: Well the 2T memory everybody was curious about 3 weeks ago got here early. From dmesg after plugging one in: [629240.916163] usb 1-2: new high-speed USB device number 39 using xhci_hcd [629241.066221] usb 1-2: New USB device found, idVendor=048d,

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (WasRe: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-09 Thread David Christensen
On 2/9/24 04:53, gene heskett wrote: Interesting report from gdisk however: GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 1.0.9 Partition table scan:   MBR: MBR only   BSD: not present   APM: not present   GPT: not present *** Found invalid GPT and

[no subject]

2024-02-09 Thread Julian Daich
Compartir archivos con Samba Hola, Estoy tratando de compartir dos carpetas por Samba y no me funciona. En el servidor tengo Samba instalado. Hice sudo smbpasswd -a julian, también use las opciones e y n para que no pregunte contraseña En /etc/samba.smb.conf [global] workgroup = workgroup

Re: Unidentified flying subject!

2024-02-09 Thread Richmond
Charles Curley writes: > On Fri, 09 Feb 2024 04:30:14 + > Richmond wrote: > >> So you need to store a lot of data and then verify that it has written >> with 'diff'. > > Yeah. > > I've been thinking about this. Yeah, I know: dangerous. > > What I would do is write a function to write 4096

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (WasRe: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-09 Thread gene heskett
On 2/8/24 15:43, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 02:20:59PM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 11:57 AM Ralph Aichinger wrote: How does a breaking USB disk differ from a breaking SATA disk? I may be mistaken, but I believe AS is talking about USB thumb

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (WasRe: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-09 Thread gene heskett
On 2/8/24 11:15, Gremlin wrote: On 2/8/24 10:36, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 03:30:29PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: [629241.074187] scsi host37: usb-storage 1-2:1.0 USB storage is for phones and cameras etc, not for serious computing. Many people will disagree with that

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-09 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hi all, Am 08.02.2024 um 21:38 schrieb Andy Smith: Hello, On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 05:40:54PM +0100, Ralph Aichinger wrote: On Thu, 2024-02-08 at 15:36 +, Andy Smith wrote: I learned not to go there a long time ago and have seen plenty of reminders along the way from others' misfortunes

Re: Unidentified flying subject!

2024-02-08 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 09 Feb 2024 04:30:14 + Richmond wrote: > So you need to store a lot of data and then verify that it has written > with 'diff'. Yeah. I've been thinking about this. Yeah, I know: dangerous. What I would do is write a function to write 4096 bytes of repeating data, the data being

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-08 Thread Richmond
Charles Curley writes: > On Thu, 08 Feb 2024 18:02:36 -0500 > Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> > Test it with Validrive. >> > https://www.grc.com/validrive.htm >> >> Looks like proprietary software for Windows. > > badblocks, available in a Debian repo near you, might be a suitable > replacement.

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-08 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 08 Feb 2024 18:02:36 -0500 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Test it with Validrive. > > https://www.grc.com/validrive.htm > > Looks like proprietary software for Windows. badblocks, available in a Debian repo near you, might be a suitable replacement. -- Does anybody read signatures any

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-08 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Test it with Validrive. > https://www.grc.com/validrive.htm Looks like proprietary software for Windows. Stefan

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-08 Thread Richmond
gene heskett writes: > Well the 2T memory everybody was curious about 3 weeks ago got here early. > > From dmesg after plugging one in: > [629240.916163] usb 1-2: new high-speed USB device number 39 using xhci_hcd > [629241.066221] usb 1-2: New USB device found, idVendor=048d, > idProduct=1234,

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Gremlin
On 2/8/24 16:28, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 04:22:49PM -0500, Gremlin wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 08:43:17PM +, Andy Smith wrote: I really do mean all forms of USB that come over a USB port. That line was meant to read I really do mean all forms of storage

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 04:22:49PM -0500, Gremlin wrote: > On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 08:43:17PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > > I really do mean all forms of USB that come over a USB port. > > That line was meant to read > > I really do mean all forms of storage that come over a USB port.

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Gremlin
On 2/8/24 16:16, Andy Smith wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 03:56:19PM -0500, Gremlin wrote: On 2/8/24 15:43, Andy Smith wrote: I wouldn't have much issue with taking a USB drive out of its caddy to get the SATA drive from inside, except that it would have to be an amazingly good deal to make

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 04:00:01PM -0500, Gremlin wrote: > I have been using USB attached HDDs and SSDs for 10 years now and > have never had one unexpectedly go off line. Your postings > suggest you don't know what your talking about. Okay then. Despite this uncharitable comment, I do

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Andy Smith
On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 03:56:19PM -0500, Gremlin wrote: > On 2/8/24 15:43, Andy Smith wrote: > > I wouldn't have much issue with taking a USB drive out of its caddy > > to get the SATA drive from inside, except that it would have to be > > an amazingly good deal to make it worth voiding the

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Gremlin
On 2/8/24 15:35, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Fri, Feb 09, 2024 at 12:23:45AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: On 08/02/2024 22:36, Andy Smith wrote: On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 03:30:29PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: [629241.074187] scsi host37: usb-storage 1-2:1.0 USB storage is for phones and cameras

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Gremlin
On 2/8/24 15:43, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 02:20:59PM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 11:57 AM Ralph Aichinger wrote: How does a breaking USB disk differ from a breaking SATA disk? I may be mistaken, but I believe AS is talking about USB thumb

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Andy Smith
On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 08:43:17PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > I really do mean all forms of USB that come over a USB port. That line was meant to read I really do mean all forms of storage that come over a USB port. Thanks, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

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