Re: [Conclusion] Looking for an emacs replacement

2012-09-22 Thread Dan B.
lee wrote: ... ... You can still run emacs fine on the console or in a terminal as you could 15--20 years ago, and you can use the GUI frames if you like, even all at the same time --- or compile a version that doesn't have X-support at all. FYI: There's an "emacs23-nox" (no X11 dependency) pac

Re: [Conclusion] Looking for an emacs replacement

2012-09-16 Thread Stefan Monnier
> (if (>= emacs-major-version 20) > (menu-bar-mode -1)) I recommend testing (fboundp 'menu-bar-mode) instead. > (if (>= emacs-major-version 21) > (if window-system > (tool-bar-mode -1))) And here I recommend testing (fboundp 'tool-bar-mode) and calling the function regardless of

Re: [Conclusion] Looking for an emacs replacement

2012-09-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Vincent Chen wrote: > Since you've been using Emacs for the past 15 years, I hope you do > realize you can disable all the GUI clutter by setting: > > (menu-bar-mode -1) > (tool-bar-mode -1) > (scroll-bar-mode -1) > > in your ~/.emacs (though I do keep the scroll bar around, easier to > read than

Re: [Conclusion] Looking for an emacs replacement

2012-09-09 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 20:25:53 +, T o n g wrote: > On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 16:01:33 +, Camaleón wrote: > > Time to look for an all purpose editor to replace emacs. >> >> And you want to drop it just because of a problem with your settings >> not being honored? Have you report it? > > Does

Re: [Conclusion] Looking for an emacs replacement

2012-09-08 Thread Jude DaShiell
I feel your pain. Have you ever tried: emacs -nw filename gtk is plenty freaky enough even in a g.u.i. environment, having it invade command line space through whichever proxy software is unreasonable. Two possibilities beyond emacs might be jove and mg. On Sat, 8 Sep 2012, T o n g wrote: > O

Re: [Conclusion] Looking for an emacs replacement

2012-09-08 Thread lee
T o n g writes: > there is only one looks and feel, the Unix one. Over the years, emacs is > moving towards Windows, I lost its xterm-like scroll bar years ago, now > the whole Unix-like look and feel is gone. It's OK to woo the windows > users, but to completely ignore the Unix users, that's

Re: [Conclusion] Looking for an emacs replacement

2012-09-08 Thread Vincent Chen
On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 1:25 PM, T o n g wrote: > On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 16:01:33 +, Camaleón wrote: > > Time to look for an all purpose editor to replace emacs. >> >> And you want to drop it just because of a problem with your settings not >> being honored? Have you report it? > > Does it mat

[Conclusion] Looking for an emacs replacement

2012-09-08 Thread T o n g
On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 16:01:33 +, Camaleón wrote: Time to look for an all purpose editor to replace emacs. > > And you want to drop it just because of a problem with your settings not > being honored? Have you report it? Does it matter? -- I started to use Emacs almost 15 years ago. By th