Re: [OT] Backup solutions

2003-03-21 Thread stavel
Hi Bob, Bob == Bob Paige [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bob Opinions? I tried rdiff-backup. I uses rsync-like transfer method to minimize net load and diff-like store method to save incrementals. Diff method is extended even for binary file (that is rdiff algorithm). The program creates file

Re: [OT] Backup solutions - rdiff

2003-03-21 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya savel On 21 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bob, Bob == Bob Paige [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bob Opinions? I tried rdiff-backup. I uses rsync-like transfer method to minimize net load and diff-like store method to save incrementals. Diff method is extended even for

Re: [OT] Backup solutions - rdiff

2003-03-21 Thread stavel
Hi Alvin, Alvin == Alvin Oga [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alvin yes.. rdiff sounds like a good thing to do.. - make a 1 Alvin line change and only save that one line diff changes Alvin - but if one creates a 10MB.file and 100MB.file and Alvin 1GB.file... - thhose 10MB files have

Re: [OT] Backup solutions

2003-03-21 Thread Jamie Lawrence
On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bob, Bob == Bob Paige [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bob Opinions? I tried rdiff-backup. I uses rsync-like transfer method to minimize net load and diff-like store method to save incrementals. Diff method is extended even for binary

Re: [OT] Backup solutions - my preferences

2003-03-21 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 03:33:12PM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: fun stuff... :-) Oh, yeah! On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, Dave Sherohman wrote: Haven't used amanda, have you? Just set yourself up with a decent-sized holding disk and it's not a problem. (Your backups will yes... if one has the

Re: [OT] Backup solutions - watching

2003-03-21 Thread Alvin Oga
On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Jamie Lawrence wrote: If you use it, I recommend keeping a close eye on it. if you use any backup system ... - restore that backup data to a new disk regularly and see that all the files are there.. ls -laR /Original /tmp/x.x ls -laR

Re: [OT] Backup solutions - watching

2003-03-21 Thread Jamie Lawrence
On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Alvin Oga wrote: On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Jamie Lawrence wrote: If you use it, I recommend keeping a close eye on it. if you use any backup system ... - restore that backup data to a new disk regularly and see that all the files are there.. [...] Yes,

[OT] Backup solutions

2003-03-20 Thread Bob Paige
I've been running my debian system without a backup for about a year now. I understand the need for backup (hence this message) so please, no assaults for not using one. Questions: 1) what is better for backup, tape, or CD? (I already have a CD burner) 2) if tape, what is a good/inexpensive

Re: [OT] Backup solutions

2003-03-20 Thread Thomas Krennwallner
Hi! On Thu Mar 20, 2003 at 10:59:40AM -0500, the boisterous Bob Paige [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to me: 1) what is better for backup, tape, or CD? (I already have a CD burner) IMHO tape, but it depends on cost, ... 2) if tape, what is a good/inexpensive product to use? If have an inexpensive

Re: [OT] Backup solutions

2003-03-20 Thread Gary Hennigan
Bob Paige [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been running my debian system without a backup for about a year now. I understand the need for backup (hence this message) so please, no assaults for not using one. Questions: 1) what is better for backup, tape, or CD? (I already have a CD burner) 2)

Re: [OT] Backup solutions

2003-03-20 Thread nate
Bob Paige said: Opinions? see this: http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/03/03/18/0252218.shtml?tid=106 for my own use, at the moment I use an Exabyte Mammoth tape drive for my backups. 20/40GB tapes. I got the tape drive for $100 from my previous employer(at the time ebay had em for $400-500).

Re: [OT] Backup solutions

2003-03-20 Thread Glenn English
On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 08:59, Bob Paige wrote: Questions: 1) what is better for backup, tape, or CD? (I already have a CD burner) 2) if tape, what is a good/inexpensive product to use? 3) what software works best? IMHO, 1) tape - can easily back up the entire system (and a small network) 2)

Re: [OT] Backup solutions - my preferences

2003-03-20 Thread Alvin Oga
On 20 Mar 2003, Glenn English wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 08:59, Bob Paige wrote: Questions: 1) what is better for backup, tape, or CD? (I already have a CD burner) 2) if tape, what is a good/inexpensive product to use? 3) what software works best? IMHO, 1) tape - can easily

Re: [OT] Backup solutions - my preferences

2003-03-20 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 01:04:08PM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: On 20 Mar 2003, Glenn English wrote: 1) tape - can easily back up the entire system (and a small network) 2) DDS - others are faster, but they cost more 3) amanda, amanda, and amanda - command line, cron-able, free, and very

Re: [OT] Backup solutions - my preferences

2003-03-20 Thread Glenn English
On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 14:54, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 01:04:08PM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: i dont have time to play with tapes.. daily changing it.. - forget one day... and you're hosed Haven't used amanda, have you? Just set yourself up with a decent-sized

Re: [OT] Backup solutions - my preferences

2003-03-20 Thread Alvin Oga
fun stuff... :-) On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, Dave Sherohman wrote: i dont have time to play with tapes.. daily changing it.. - forget one day... and you're hosed Haven't used amanda, have you? Just set yourself up with a decent-sized holding disk and it's not a problem. (Your backups

Re: [OT] Backup solutions - my preferences

2003-03-20 Thread Bob Paige
Haven't used amanda, have you? Just set yourself up with a decent-sized holding disk and it's not a problem. (Your backups will finish fast, too.) My amanda server at work can easily run a week's worth of backups without needing a tape, just saving it all up on the holding disk. Just be sure