On Tue,29.Jul.08, 20:17:52, Celejar wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:39:58 +0300
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
I was somewhat forced to use gmail for smtp because my ISP doesn't allow
sending mails with a 'From:' address not on their servers (and I don't
want to use that
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 02:58:58PM +0100, Bob Cox wrote:
As a matter of interest I have both of these in my ~/.muttrc
lists [EMAIL PROTECTED]
subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Bob,
According to the mutt docs you don't need the subscribe *and* the
lists command, i.e.:
More precisely,
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:39:58 +0300
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
I was somewhat forced to use gmail for smtp because my ISP doesn't allow
sending mails with a 'From:' address not on their servers (and I don't
want to use that address).
I just posted about this, several
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 04:32:54PM -0400, Telemachus wrote:
On Mon Jul 28 2008 @ 8:48, Brad Rogers wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:33:36 -0400
Telemachus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Telemachus,
that looks for a mail with the same title in your sent folder and
That could be
[Cc'd as per Reply-To *and* Mail-Followup-To]
On Sun,27.Jul.08, 16:48:00, Arvind Marathe wrote:
Does it have the mailing list headers (List-Id, List-Post, ...)?
No.
Sorry i was too fast in replying, because i was doing something else.
Yes, the full header has the mailing list
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:37:46AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
[Cc'd as per Reply-To *and* Mail-Followup-To]
On Sun,27.Jul.08, 16:48:00, Arvind Marathe wrote:
Does it have the mailing list headers (List-Id, List-Post, ...)?
No.
Sorry i was too fast in replying, because i
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:37:46AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
[Cc'd as per Reply-To *and* Mail-Followup-To]
On Sun,27.Jul.08, 16:48:00, Arvind Marathe wrote:
Does it have the mailing list headers (List-Id, List-Post, ...)?
No.
Sorry i was too fast in replying, because i
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 15:07:31, Arvind Marathe wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:37:46AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
[Cc'd as per Reply-To *and* Mail-Followup-To]
On Sun,27.Jul.08, 16:48:00, Arvind Marathe wrote:
Does it have the mailing list headers (List-Id, List-Post, ...)?
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:28:30PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 15:07:31, Arvind Marathe wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:37:46AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
[Cc'd as per Reply-To *and* Mail-Followup-To]
On Sun,27.Jul.08, 16:48:00, Arvind Marathe wrote:
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 15:58:28, Arvind Marathe wrote:
Alright! I didn't specify particularly, but my own mails to the group
have the list headers. Only those mails which also had my email
address in the To or Cc fields did not have the list headers.
Do you use smtp.gmail.com for sending?
P.S.
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 15:58:28 +0530, Arvind Marathe ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:28:30PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
P.S. You know you're asking for a Cc on every post?
No i'm not.
You are! I think what Andrei is referring to is being caused by this
line
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:52:49AM +0100, Bob Cox wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 15:58:28 +0530, Arvind Marathe ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:28:30PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
P.S. You know you're asking for a Cc on every post?
No i'm not.
You are!
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 19:15:56, Arvind Marathe wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:52:49AM +0100, Bob Cox wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 15:58:28 +0530, Arvind Marathe ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:28:30PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
P.S. You know you're
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 01:03:02PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 15:58:28, Arvind Marathe wrote:
Alright! I didn't specify particularly, but my own mails to the group
have the list headers. Only those mails which also had my email
address in the To or Cc fields did not
The Monday 28 July 2008 15:45:56 Arvind Marathe, you wrote :
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:52:49AM +0100, Bob Cox wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 15:58:28 +0530, Arvind Marathe
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:28:30PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
P.S. You know you're
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 19:15:56 +0530, Arvind Marathe ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:52:49AM +0100, Bob Cox wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 15:58:28 +0530, Arvind Marathe ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:28:30PM +0300, Andrei Popescu
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 19:46:47, Arvind Marathe wrote:
Alright! I didn't specify particularly, but my own mails to the group
have the list headers. Only those mails which also had my email
address in the To or Cc fields did not have the list headers.
Do you use smtp.gmail.com for
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 04:39:55PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 19:15:56, Arvind Marathe wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:52:49AM +0100, Bob Cox wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 15:58:28 +0530, Arvind Marathe ([EMAIL
PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 05:01:19PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 19:46:47, Arvind Marathe wrote:
Alright! I didn't specify particularly, but my own mails to the group
have the list headers. Only those mails which also had my email
address in the To or Cc fields
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 14:58:58, Bob Cox wrote:
As a matter of interest I have both of these in my ~/.muttrc
lists [EMAIL PROTECTED]
subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
but no separate mailing-lists file.
That's irrelevant:
$ ls .mutt/*muttrc
alias_muttrc
bind_muttrc
color_muttrc
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 02:58:58PM +0100, Bob Cox wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 19:15:56 +0530, Arvind Marathe ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:52:49AM +0100, Bob Cox wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 15:58:28 +0530, Arvind Marathe ([EMAIL
PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 03:51:54PM +0200, Thomas Preud'homme wrote:
The Monday 28 July 2008 15:45:56 Arvind Marathe, you wrote :
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:52:49AM +0100, Bob Cox wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 15:58:28 +0530, Arvind Marathe
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28,
Arvind Marathe wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 03:51:54PM +0200, Thomas Preud'homme wrote:
It doesn't set a CC anymore with this mail. I try a reply to list with this
email and your previous one. The previous one set a CC but this one don't so
you made the good manipulation.
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 20:10:42, Arvind Marathe wrote:
You still have a Reply-To: header and some clients might interpret it as
a request for Cc. Mutt does not set it by default, so it must be
something that you did :)
The education continues ;)
Uhh, don't take my word for it. You
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 20:22:36, Arvind Marathe wrote:
Do you use smtp.gmail.com for sending?
No.
Well, this explains it all :) gmail hasn't seen the mail before so it
lets you have it.
Beware, if you use gmail also for sending you will definitely not
receive your own
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 11:28:40, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
Arvind Marathe wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 03:51:54PM +0200, Thomas Preud'homme wrote:
It doesn't set a CC anymore with this mail. I try a reply to list with
this
email and your previous one. The previous one set a CC but
The Monday 28 July 2008 16:31:20 Andrei Popescu, you wrote :
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 20:10:42, Arvind Marathe wrote:
You still have a Reply-To: header and some clients might interpret it
as a request for Cc. Mutt does not set it by default, so it must be
something that you did :)
The
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:28:40AM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
Arvind Marathe wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 03:51:54PM +0200, Thomas Preud'homme wrote:
It doesn't set a CC anymore with this mail. I try a reply to list with
this
email and your previous one. The previous one
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 05:31:20PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 20:10:42, Arvind Marathe wrote:
You still have a Reply-To: header and some clients might interpret it as
a request for Cc. Mutt does not set it by default, so it must be
something that you did :)
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 22:27:33, Arvind Marathe wrote:
While i am at it, what do you guys do when you have two copies of your
own mail, one in your sent-mail (or another folder, if you have a hook)
and another sent to you by the mailing list? (I know Andrei does not
have to worry about that,
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 07:33:30PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 22:27:33, Arvind Marathe wrote:
While i am at it, what do you guys do when you have two copies of your
own mail, one in your sent-mail (or another folder, if you have a hook)
and another sent to you by the
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 22:45:54, Arvind Marathe wrote:
Actually I do have two (because I am subscribed with a different
address), I just don't do anything about it. Why should I?
Perhaps i was not clear. When i write a mail to d-u, (say this mail
for example), the copy obviously gets stored
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 08:24:18PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 22:45:54, Arvind Marathe wrote:
[...snip...]
I don't see the point in having two copies of
my own mail, so i was asking whether other users do any special
settings, so that one mail is
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:45:54 +0530
Arvind Marathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Arvind,
your own mails to d-u). I don't see the point in having two copies of
my own mail, so i was asking whether other users do any special
settings, so that one mail is automatically deleted.
Some ML software
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 23:50:39 +0530, Arvind Marathe ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 08:24:18PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 22:45:54, Arvind Marathe wrote:
[...snip...]
I don't see the point in having two copies of
my own mail,
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 06:40:50PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:45:54 +0530
Arvind Marathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Arvind,
your own mails to d-u). I don't see the point in having two copies of
my own mail, so i was asking whether other users do any special
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:17:25 +0530
Arvind Marathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Arvind,
I would prefer to save the copy echoed by d-u, and delete the one
saved as sent-mail. The copy echoed by d-u would have the list
I don't know anything about Mutt's capabilities for this sort of thing,
but
On Tue Jul 29 2008 @ 12:17, Arvind Marathe wrote:
snip
I would prefer to save the copy echoed by d-u, and delete the one
saved as sent-mail. The copy echoed by d-u would have the list
headers, so if i ever use some search criteria using list headers, my
mails would also be detected. As i said
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:33:36 -0400
Telemachus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Telemachus,
that looks for a mail with the same title in your sent folder and
That could be risky; If Arvind writes multiple messages in a thread,
checking Subject alone is insufficient to be sure the message being
On Mon Jul 28 2008 @ 8:48, Brad Rogers wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:33:36 -0400
Telemachus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Telemachus,
that looks for a mail with the same title in your sent folder and
That could be risky; If Arvind writes multiple messages in a thread,
checking
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:32:54 -0400
Telemachus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Telemachus,
On Mon Jul 28 2008 @ 8:48, Brad Rogers wrote:
That could be risky; If Arvind writes multiple messages in a
thread, checking Subject alone is insufficient to be sure the
message being deleted is the
Le lundi 28 juillet 2008, Arvind Marathe a écrit :
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 07:33:30PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Mon,28.Jul.08, 22:27:33, Arvind Marathe wrote:
While i am at it, what do you guys do when you have two copies of
your own mail, one in your sent-mail (or another folder,
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 08:01:03AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Sun,27.Jul.08, 01:28:44, Arvind Marathe wrote:
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 10:19:48PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Sun,27.Jul.08, 01:03:01, Arvind Marathe wrote:
ps: When i sent mail to d-u using gmail web interface,
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 04:42:19PM +0530, Arvind Marathe wrote:
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 08:18:29AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Sun,27.Jul.08, 01:28:44, Arvind Marathe wrote:
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 10:19:48PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Sun,27.Jul.08, 01:03:01, Arvind Marathe
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 08:18:29AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Sun,27.Jul.08, 01:28:44, Arvind Marathe wrote:
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 10:19:48PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Sun,27.Jul.08, 01:03:01, Arvind Marathe wrote:
ps: When i sent mail to d-u using gmail web interface,
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 04:48:00PM +0530, Arvind Marathe wrote:
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 04:42:19PM +0530, Arvind Marathe wrote:
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 08:18:29AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Sun,27.Jul.08, 01:28:44, Arvind Marathe wrote:
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 10:19:48PM +0300,
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Andrei Popescu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon,14.Jul.08, 20:44:32, Celejar wrote:
Note that Gmail can be used via POP or IMAP, without the web interface,
I'm wondering, did any of you have problems lately with that? Quite
often in the last weeks I get a mail
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Arvind Marathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Andrei Popescu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon,14.Jul.08, 20:44:32, Celejar wrote:
Note that Gmail can be used via POP or IMAP, without the web interface,
I'm wondering, did any of you
Arvind Marathe wrote:
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Andrei Popescu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon,14.Jul.08, 20:44:32, Celejar wrote:
Note that Gmail can be used via POP or IMAP, without the web interface,
I'm wondering, did any of you have problems lately with that?
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 10:03:41AM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
Arvind Marathe wrote:
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Andrei Popescu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon,14.Jul.08, 20:44:32, Celejar wrote:
Note that Gmail can be used via POP or IMAP, without the web
On Sun,27.Jul.08, 01:03:01, Arvind Marathe wrote:
ps: When i sent mail to d-u using gmail web interface, there used to
be a copy in sent-mail, but i never got the copy i was supposed to get
as a d-u subscriber. Now i am using mutt to send this mail, i wonder
if i will get the copy of my own
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 10:19:48PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Sun,27.Jul.08, 01:03:01, Arvind Marathe wrote:
ps: When i sent mail to d-u using gmail web interface, there used to
be a copy in sent-mail, but i never got the copy i was supposed to get
as a d-u subscriber. Now i am
On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:34:28 +0530
Arvind Marathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am trying to configure getmail to retrieve mails to my local machine
from my gmail account. I have enabled imap in gmail. Also i have been
Have you tried POP?
Arvind
Celejar
--
mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote
On Sun,27.Jul.08, 01:28:44, Arvind Marathe wrote:
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 10:19:48PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Sun,27.Jul.08, 01:03:01, Arvind Marathe wrote:
ps: When i sent mail to d-u using gmail web interface, there used to
be a copy in sent-mail, but i never got the copy i
On Sun,27.Jul.08, 01:28:44, Arvind Marathe wrote:
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 10:19:48PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Sun,27.Jul.08, 01:03:01, Arvind Marathe wrote:
ps: When i sent mail to d-u using gmail web interface, there used to
be a copy in sent-mail, but i never got the copy i
On Mon July 21 2008, s. keeling wrote:
They're using tbird or mozilla to read mail. You expect them to read
Received: headers?!?
well, I use Thunderbird on my laptop kmail now. ALT-V-H-A says show headers
ALL. I use that when I send spam to spamcop and other places.. then ALT-V-H-F
for
Bob Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 00:34:56 -0500, Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
On 07/19/08 23:08, Celejar wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:59:51 +0100
Bob Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:46:55 -0700, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL
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On 07/21/08 19:59, s. keeling wrote:
Bob Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 00:34:56 -0500, Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
On 07/19/08 23:08, Celejar wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:59:51 +0100
Bob Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 00:34:56 -0500, Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On 07/19/08 23:08, Celejar wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:59:51 +0100
Bob Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:46:55 -0700, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
Name names! I
On Sat,19.Jul.08, 18:43:32, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 07/19/08 17:26, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Sat,19.Jul.08, 12:35:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
[snip]
Decrease the frequency at which you check your mail?
I just did (from 5 to 15 min). Let's see if this helps.
If that helps, then you didn't
On Fri,18.Jul.08, 19:57:19, Andrew Reid wrote:
On Friday 18 July 2008 13:47, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Sat,19.Jul.08, 00:43:13, Chris Bannister wrote:
I receive most of my emails through my ISPs POP server (ex. all list
traffic), but I can't use their SMTP server to relay as they don't
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 18:34 -0700, David Barrett wrote:
Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Mon,14.Jul.08, 20:44:32, Celejar wrote:
Note that Gmail can be used via POP or IMAP, without the web interface,
I'm wondering, did any of you have problems lately with that? Quite
often in the last
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 19:04 -0700, Brian Marshall wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:46:07 -0500
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I keep telling people that Gmail is evil, but no one will listen.
If you care about your data, and want to get to it at any time, keep
your data and your
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 07:04 +0100, Bob Cox wrote:
Yes, I have used Postfix on my main home server for years now and it is
really pretty much zero maintenance. Because I am fortunate enough to
have a static IP address from my (consumer) ISP, (which is also
thoughtful enough to allow setting
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 00:33 -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
An ordinary user might not have resources to have a machine running
24/7.
Why not?
1. Because it is expensive and waste of resources.
Only if done incorrectly.
2. If you are running a
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 07:13 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote:
[0] I don't drink coffee, but I believe that four or five cups here in
Seattle would equal my monthly $20 payment to Slicehost.
You're doing it wrong. Buy the whole bean coffee, grind and brew it
yourself and $20 is closer to
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:46:55 -0700, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Name names! I bet other people would like to use that ISP.
Well, I thought you would have worked it out from the headers ;-)
I use Zen Internet www.zen.co.uk - although there several other UK ISPs
offering
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:36:57 -0700
Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 19:04 -0700, Brian Marshall wrote:
The reason I use Gmail is because there is no way I can set up
everything for email on a local server (not the least of which
preventing this is the
On Sat, 2008-07-19 at 13:24 -0700, Brian Marshall wrote:
Mmm, I'm on Comcast. I tried configuring postfix last week when I
noticed that port 25 is blocked outbound. I gave up when I couldn't
make postfix use SMTP AUTH...
Oh, I'm so sorry. I recently switched from Comcast myself. Word of
Verizon blocks 25 on FiOS, and consumer level service agreements usually
prohibit you from running servers. I to asked Verizon about their
business service, and it same pipe branded for businesses was 3 times
more expensive which meant that I ended up with a virtual hosted
solution for our
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:56:37PM -0700, Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] was
heard to say:
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 07:13 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote:
[0] I don't drink coffee, but I believe that four or five cups here in
Seattle would equal my monthly $20 payment to Slicehost.
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:36:57PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 19:04 -0700, Brian Marshall wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:46:07 -0500
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I keep telling people that Gmail is evil, but no one will listen.
If you care about your
On Sat,19.Jul.08, 12:35:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 18:34 -0700, David Barrett wrote:
Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Mon,14.Jul.08, 20:44:32, Celejar wrote:
Note that Gmail can be used via POP or IMAP, without the web interface,
I'm wondering, did any of you have
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On 07/19/08 17:26, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Sat,19.Jul.08, 12:35:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
[snip]
Decrease the frequency at which you check your mail?
I just did (from 5 to 15 min). Let's see if this helps.
If that helps, then you didn't cure the
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:59:51 +0100
Bob Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:46:55 -0700, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
Name names! I bet other people would like to use that ISP.
Well, I thought you would have worked it out from the headers ;-)
I use Zen
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On 07/19/08 23:08, Celejar wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:59:51 +0100
Bob Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:46:55 -0700, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
Name names! I bet other people would like to use that ISP.
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi engaged keyboard and shared this
with us all:
--} Ron Johnson wrote:
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--}An ordinary user might not have resources to have a machine
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On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:14:42AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Mon,14.Jul.08, 23:16:29, Ron Johnson wrote:
Most people must configure their MUA to send email to
smtp.bigisp.net, and receive mail from pop.bigisp.net. But with
Unix (and Debian makes this very easy) you can configure
On Sat,19.Jul.08, 00:43:13, Chris Bannister wrote:
I receive most of my emails through my ISPs POP server (ex. all list
traffic), but I can't use their SMTP server to relay as they don't allow
a different From, not even after authentication.
I think you may be confusing relay with
On Friday 18 July 2008 13:47, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Sat,19.Jul.08, 00:43:13, Chris Bannister wrote:
I receive most of my emails through my ISPs POP server (ex. all list
traffic), but I can't use their SMTP server to relay as they don't
allow a different From, not even after
Ron Johnson wrote:
An ordinary user might not have resources to have a machine running
24/7.
Why not?
1. Because it is expensive and waste of resources.
2. If you are running a machine 24/7, the room better have good air
conditioning to reduce all the heat generated. Air
Ron Johnson wrote:
I keep telling people that Gmail is evil, but no one will listen.
I don't think so. It is as evil as using any proprietary software. I use
proprietary software all the time. Their TOS is very restrictive (as is the
case for most proprietary software). So, I just use it
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On 07/16/08 06:07, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
I keep telling people that Gmail is evil, but no one will listen.
I don't think so. It is as evil as using any proprietary software. I use
proprietary software all the time.
On 7/16/08, Ron Johnson wrote:
An ordinary user might not have resources to have a machine running
24/7.
Why not?
Because I currently am using the services of an internet service
provider who claims to be providing broadband access under a plan
where I am metered by the byte, and the
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 05:00:09PM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say:
On 7/16/08, Ron Johnson wrote:
An ordinary user might not have resources to have a machine running
24/7.
Why not?
Because I currently am using the services of an internet service
provider who claims
On 7/16/08, Daniel Burrows wrote:
plan (extra pay for more MBs). It's too expensive for me to get a
better plan, and plain not worth the money for the limited needs of
people here at home.
I don't know how expensive is too expensive, but when I got fed up
with my ISP's mail server, I
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 23:16:29 -0500, Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I'm certain that you *are* running a complete mail package and
don't even know it! :O
Just about all Unix systems use the same MTA[0] to transfer intra-
system mail as they do to transfer mail across the world.
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 04:23:10 +0300
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Andrei,
If I go to the webinterface I am requested to pass a captcha test.
This is getting pretty annoying!
If you don't use the web i/f at GMail, they do things(0) to your
account. Using the web interface once
On Mon,14.Jul.08, 20:46:07, Ron Johnson wrote:
If you care about your data, and want to get to it at any time, keep
your data and your apps on your local machine.
I don't keep any data on gmail servers. I use it mainly for posting.
Only a limited amount of mail goes through their servers
On Mon,14.Jul.08, 23:16:29, Ron Johnson wrote:
Most people must configure their MUA to send email to
smtp.bigisp.net, and receive mail from pop.bigisp.net. But with
Unix (and Debian makes this very easy) you can configure your MTA to
be a relayhost[1].
I receive most of my emails through
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 04:23:10 +0300
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon,14.Jul.08, 20:44:32, Celejar wrote:
Note that Gmail can be used via POP or IMAP, without the web interface,
I'm wondering, did any of you have problems lately with that? Quite
I haven't had trouble
On Mon,14.Jul.08, 20:44:32, Celejar wrote:
Note that Gmail can be used via POP or IMAP, without the web interface,
I'm wondering, did any of you have problems lately with that? Quite
often in the last weeks I get a mail from my getmail cronjob that my
password was rejected.
If I go to the
Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Mon,14.Jul.08, 20:44:32, Celejar wrote:
Note that Gmail can be used via POP or IMAP, without the web interface,
I'm wondering, did any of you have problems lately with that? Quite
often in the last weeks I get a mail from my getmail cronjob that my
password was
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On 07/14/08 20:34, David Barrett wrote:
Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Mon,14.Jul.08, 20:44:32, Celejar wrote:
Note that Gmail can be used via POP or IMAP, without the web interface,
I'm wondering, did any of you have problems lately with that?
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:46:07 -0500
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I keep telling people that Gmail is evil, but no one will listen.
If you care about your data, and want to get to it at any time, keep
your data and your apps on your local machine.
So what would you recommend for a
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On 07/14/08 21:04, Brian Marshall wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:46:07 -0500
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I keep telling people that Gmail is evil, but no one will listen.
If you care about your data, and want to get to it at any time,
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:43:38 -0500
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 07/14/08 21:04, Brian Marshall wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:46:07 -0500
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I keep telling people that Gmail is evil, but no one will listen.
If you care about your data, and
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:43:38 -0500
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 07/14/08 21:04, Brian Marshall wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:46:07 -0500
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I keep telling
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Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 07/14/08 22:41, Brian Marshall wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:43:38 -0500
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 07/14/08 21:04, Brian Marshall wrote:
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