Re: [OT] Is Devuan a hoax?

2015-06-10 Thread Haines Brown
On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 05:07:18PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 08 June 2015 17:00:31 pjw wrote: On Mon, Jun 8, 2015, at 08:41 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: LMDE 2 is Jessie-based while retaining sysvinit. I get the impression that Linux Mint is only holding off on systemd because it is

Re: [OT] Is Devuan a hoax?

2015-06-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 10 June 2015 22:25:48 Haines Brown wrote: On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 05:07:18PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 08 June 2015 17:00:31 pjw wrote: On Mon, Jun 8, 2015, at 08:41 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: LMDE 2 is Jessie-based while retaining sysvinit. I get the

Re: [OT] Is Devuan a hoax?

2015-06-10 Thread pjw
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015, at 03:25 PM, Haines Brown wrote: LMDE 2 is Jessie-based while retaining sysvinit. I get the impression that Linux Mint is only holding off on systemd because it is shaky. When it settles down, it will head in that direction. Does this mean abandoning upstart? From

Re: [OT] Is Devuan a hoax?

2015-06-08 Thread Mart van de Wege
Francis Gerund ranr...@gmail.com writes: Does anyone here have any inside information on what is happening (or not happening) with the Devuan project? It seems to be dead, or at least dying. I am (more than) starting to think the whole thing was just a sick, sleazy hoax/disinformation

Re: [OT] Is Devuan a hoax?

2015-06-08 Thread Haines Brown
On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 08:20:41AM +0200, Mart van de Wege wrote: Francis Gerund ranr...@gmail.com writes: Does anyone here have any inside information on what is happening (or not happening) with the Devuan project? It seems to be dead, or at least dying. I am (more than)

Re: [OT] Is Devuan a hoax?

2015-06-08 Thread Carl Fink
On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 07:17:24AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: Not my impression at all. The Alpha 2 installer just came out. I was able to install devuan in a virtual box without a problem, and so now one of my virtual desktops is now a Devuan version of Jessie. Systemd is not installed. I'm

Re: [OT] Is Devuan a hoax?

2015-06-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 07:17:24AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: Not my impression at all. The Alpha 2 installer just came out. I was able to install devuan in a virtual box without a problem, and so now one of my virtual desktops is now a Devuan version of Jessie. Systemd is not installed. I'm

Re: [OT] Is Devuan a hoax?

2015-06-08 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 8/06/2015 4:55 AM, Francis Gerund wrote: Does anyone here have any inside information on what is happening (or not happening) with the Devuan project? It seems to be dead, or at least dying. Not so quick. systemd is a huge mistake for

Re: [OT] Is Devuan a hoax?

2015-06-08 Thread pjw
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015, at 08:41 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: On 8/06/2015 4:55 AM, Francis Gerund wrote: It seems to be dead, or at least dying. systemd is a huge mistake for Debian and other distros, a very sad mistake, Devuan or BSD will be a far better option for servers, if not much more.

Re: [OT] Is Devuan a hoax?

2015-06-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 08 June 2015 17:00:31 pjw wrote: On Mon, Jun 8, 2015, at 08:41 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: On 8/06/2015 4:55 AM, Francis Gerund wrote: It seems to be dead, or at least dying. systemd is a huge mistake for Debian and other distros, a very sad mistake, Devuan or BSD will be a

[OT] Is Devuan a hoax?

2015-06-07 Thread Francis Gerund
Does anyone here have any inside information on what is happening (or not happening) with the Devuan project? It seems to be dead, or at least dying. I am (more than) starting to think the whole thing was just a sick, sleazy hoax/disinformation campaign by you-know-who to confuse and disillusion