Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-14 Thread Emanuel Berg
> Here is the AI script! > > It is all CLI/TUI, all FOSS, and all local execution/storage > as well. [...] I have stored it here: https://dataswamp.org/~incal/ai/ori I'm very happy with this solution and would like to thank everyone for helping me out and making me aware of new concepts and t

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-14 Thread Emanuel Berg
Here is the AI script! It is all CLI/TUI, all FOSS, and all local execution/storage as well. #! /bin/zsh # # Find the most original sentence in a text file. # # uses: # mistral-7b-instruct-v0.2.Q5_K_M.llamafile # llamafile v0.8.5 # # usage: # $ ori input.txt # outputs to input-ori.txt src=

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-14 Thread Emanuel Berg
> Anyway, the context is big enough to play around with for > now then. Yes, this method works, I think? I used it again with CONTEXT / QUERY and, as context, had the 5 first parts of this: http://www.scifiscripts.com/scripts/starship_troopers.txt then query: What sentence is the most origina

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-13 Thread Emanuel Berg
jeremy ardley wrote: > Ask ChatGPT4 . Explain what you are trying to do and get it > to give you a suitable context and prompt I don't know what to ask exactly, maybe I can ask ChatGPT4 ... > localdocs contains text you trust that can be used in > responses in preference to something synthesised

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-13 Thread jeremy ardley
On 14/7/24 13:52, Emanuel Berg wrote: jeremy ardley wrote: Then create a prompt/context with the search text and instructions to generate a similarity index and report any that meet some threshold. You will have to get the results in some format such as json and post process You may want t

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-13 Thread Emanuel Berg
jeremy ardley wrote: > Then create a prompt/context with the search text and > instructions to generate a similarity index and report any > that meet some threshold. > > You will have to get the results in some format such as json > and post process > > You may want to get ChatGPT 4 to help you cr

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-13 Thread Emanuel Berg
> The answer is 1. "Here, in this thread, the context thing > with respect to AI, anyone having any luck knowing what to > do with that?" > > This sentence is original because it starts the discussion > about context in the thread. Ah, there we have the next project: The 'origin' string function!

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-13 Thread Emanuel Berg
jeremy ardley wrote: > the 2048 is tokens which is approximately the number of > words in a prompt, so not character count. Ah, right. > The context explains how you want it to respond and the > prompt is the actual question. See the other mail, I don't know if the labels should look in a certa

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-13 Thread Emanuel Berg
So I used a text file mail.txt and fed it to the AI. Well, well! What do you say? I'll let you read the whole file to find out who won - and why! Here is what the mail.txt file looked like: Here is the context: >> Here, in this thread, the context thing with respect to AI, >> anyone having any

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-13 Thread jeremy ardley
On 14/7/24 12:56, Emanuel Berg wrote: You can, but how much? So this is the context? You mean include it in the prompt? Then it is more easy to find in the llamafile(1) man page, it is probably this -c N, --ctx-size N Set the size of the prompt context. A larger

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-13 Thread Emanuel Berg
jeremy ardley wrote: >> Here, in this thread, the context thing with respect to AI, >> anyone having any luck knowing what to do with that? It is >> mentioned 14 times in llamafile(1) but not how to actually >> set it up with your own data? > > One way to set context is via the http api which is o

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-13 Thread jeremy ardley
On 14/7/24 11:41, Emanuel Berg wrote: I've made several improvements, including adding the `string-distance-percentage' that was mentioned. But let's forget about that branch [1] or visit that URL for the latest source on that. Here, in this thread, the context thing with respect to AI, anyon

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-13 Thread Emanuel Berg
> Okay, let's do it like this, here is the file, maybe > I'm blind. Here is it for download as well if you want to use your own pager: https://dataswamp.org/~incal/tmp/llamafile.1 -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-13 Thread Emanuel Berg
> I yank the source last [...] I've made several improvements, including adding the `string-distance-percentage' that was mentioned. But let's forget about that branch [1] or visit that URL for the latest source on that. Here, in this thread, the context thing with respect to AI, anyone having a

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-13 Thread Emanuel Berg
tomas wrote: > If you are doing this in Emacs Lisp, after all, there /is/ > a Levenshtein distance function in there. Finding its name > is left as an exercise to the reader, though... (I know of course, `string-distance'.) I thought I was just going to experiment some in Elisp but now I've done

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-13 Thread Emanuel Berg
jeremy ardley wrote: > In your case, without fully knowing precisely what your aim > is, one possible approach is to put all the text you want to > search into a GPT4All localdocs directory where it will be > indexed on the fly. Then create a prompt/context with the > search text and instructions

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-10 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 08:53:40PM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Here is a piece of code after all wild ideas, but uncoded. [...] > ;;; -*- lexical-binding: t -*- [...] If you are doing this in Emacs Lisp, after all, there /is/ a Levenshtein distance function in there. Finding its name is left a

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-10 Thread jeremy ardley
On 10/7/24 23:41, Emanuel Berg wrote: jeremy ardley wrote: The modern way would be to use a LLM in API mode and set a context to achieve your aims. Here is the command. Turns out, I used the llamafile method with llava or mistral as LLMs. In the command, we see '-c 2048'. This, says the m

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-10 Thread Emanuel Berg
Here is a piece of code after all wild ideas, but uncoded. I think I can come up with a lot of those! They should compare the data but as close to the way a human thinks as possible. So, the size of something was my initial idea as that is a very human first thing to note. Who has the biggest ho

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-10 Thread Emanuel Berg
tomas wrote: > Uh -- it was a quote. They aren't supposed to be original. Spoiler alert: This post contains higher-order originality. I mentioned computing the similarity with a bunch of tests. The result can then be expressed as a string of test results. And what happens next? You guessed it,

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-10 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 06:03:46PM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: > tomas wrote: > > > ChatGPT is bullshit This is not a comment, but the title of an academic article. Worth reading, BTW. Link is in my original post. > Without context then: > > The comment "ChatGPT4 is bullshit" is not original

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-10 Thread Emanuel Berg
Greg Wooledge wrote: > The problem will be something at the PhD level which the OP > somehow believes is a high school level problem. > > I lost all faith when the OP revealed that their initial > problem description was just an *instance* of some > overarching question, and that they really wante

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-10 Thread Emanuel Berg
Nicolas George wrote: > You cannot have a more general basic mechanical algorithm > unless you know what you want it to do. I think one should do a network of nodes that all have computed distances to every other and the one with the longest sum of distances is the most isolated, so, most origina

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-10 Thread Emanuel Berg
Nicolas George wrote: > You still need to define unlike. That's an idea! You define similarity and the least similar to its most similar other item is the most original. Best suggestion yet? Or, did you think it quite, but not exactly like that? -- underground experts united https://dataswam

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-10 Thread Emanuel Berg
Greg Wooledge wrote: > I lost all faith when the OP revealed that their initial > problem description was just an *instance* of some > overarching question, and that they really wanted an > n-dimensional generalization of that already bleeding-edge > research question. Oh, no, don't worry, this i

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-10 Thread Emanuel Berg
debian-user wrote: >> You can use that: >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levenshtein_distance > > Levenshtein distance isn't suited to the problem. > It compares the entirety of two strings. Emanuel is > interesting in comparing one string against substrings of > a potentially much larger stri

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-10 Thread Emanuel Berg
tomas wrote: > ChatGPT is bullshit Without context then: The comment "ChatGPT4 is bullshit" is not original as it is a common expression used to express frustration [...] Not a bad start! I agree that comment would score between 0 and 5 as it doesn't have any originality to it, really. --

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-10 Thread Emanuel Berg
jeremy ardley wrote: > The modern way would be to use a LLM in API mode and set > a context How do I set the context? That is the backlog file, right? This is the step that is missing from my commands. -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-10 Thread Emanuel Berg
jeremy ardley wrote: > The modern way would be to use a LLM in API mode and set > a context to achieve your aims. Here is the command. Turns out, I used the llamafile method with llava or mistral as LLMs. In the command, we see '-c 2048'. This, says the man file, is to "Set the size of the promp

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 14:41:30 +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > debian-u...@howorth.org.uk (12024-07-10): > > Levenshtein distance isn't suited to the problem. > > Either your crystal ball is much better than mine or you are trusting > yours too much, because we have not been told what the problem

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-10 Thread Nicolas George
debian-u...@howorth.org.uk (12024-07-10): > Levenshtein distance isn't suited to the problem. Either your crystal ball is much better than mine or you are trusting yours too much, because we have not been told what the problem is. > It compares th

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-10 Thread debian-user
Nicolas George wrote: > Emanuel Berg (12024-07-10): > > Okay, this is gonna be a challenge to most guys who have been > > processing text for a long time. > > > > So, I would like a command, function or script, 'original', > > that takes a string STR and a text file TXT and outputs > > a score, f

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-10 Thread Emanuel Berg
Nicolas George wrote: >> The modern way would be to use a LLM in API mode and set >> a context to achieve your aims. > > All modern languages have some kind of rand() function. > I assumed the OP wanted to do something useful with > the answers. Yes, of course! /B. A. Original -- underground e

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-10 Thread Nicolas George
Emanuel Berg (12024-07-10): > Indeed, one can have a bunch of such rules and apply them and > award points and stuff. > > But maybe one could also have a more general, basic > mechanical/math/stats inspired algorithm? You cannot have a more general basic mechanical algorithm unless you know what

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-10 Thread Emanuel Berg
jeremy ardley wrote: > The modern way would be to use a LLM in API mode and set > a context to achieve your aims. > > You can do this locally using a LLM hosted on your computer > or you can use a remote API such as ChatGPT. Okay, great, I already have this installed from the console, all setup j

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-10 Thread Emanuel Berg
Nicolas George wrote: > You can use that: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levenshtein_distance > > But you also need to define what you want with more > precision: > > How do you count the replacement of a word by a synonym? > > How do you count a change in the order of the words? > > How do you

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-10 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 12:31:25PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > jeremy ardley (12024-07-10): > > The modern way would be to use a LLM in API mode and set a context to > > achieve your aims. > > All modern languages have some kind of rand() function. Which is way more CO2 efficient, at that :-)

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-10 Thread Nicolas George
jeremy ardley (12024-07-10): > The modern way would be to use a LLM in API mode and set a context to > achieve your aims. All modern languages have some kind of rand() function. I assumed the OP wanted to do something useful with the answers. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: [OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-10 Thread jeremy ardley
On 10/7/24 18:01, Nicolas George wrote: Emanuel Berg (12024-07-10): Okay, this is gonna be a challenge to most guys who have been processing text for a long time. So, I would like a command, function or script, 'original', that takes a string STR and a text file TXT and outputs a score, from

[OT] Re: the 'original' string function?

2024-07-10 Thread Nicolas George
Emanuel Berg (12024-07-10): > Okay, this is gonna be a challenge to most guys who have been > processing text for a long time. > > So, I would like a command, function or script, 'original', > that takes a string STR and a text file TXT and outputs > a score, from 0 to 100, how _original_ STR is,

Re: OT: Re: Recommendations for a UPS?

2023-08-02 Thread john doe
On 7/31/23 20:47, Tom Browder wrote: On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 13:28 john doe wrote: On 7/31/23 19:23, Tom Browder wrote: ... Any recommenndations from fellow Debian folks? I have two APC and I'm pretty happy with those. Would you mind saying the model numbers? Do they have replaceable

Re: OT: Re: Recommendations for a UPS?

2023-07-31 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 13:28 john doe wrote: > On 7/31/23 19:23, Tom Browder wrote: ... > > Any recommenndations from fellow Debian folks? > I have two APC and I'm pretty happy with those. Would you mind saying the model numbers? Do they have replaceable batteries? > What type of recommend

OT: Re: Recommendations for a UPS?

2023-07-31 Thread john doe
On 7/31/23 19:23, Tom Browder wrote: I used to use UPS units from APC back when you could replace the battery. I haven't had an UPS (but always on a surge protecter) for awhile, but electricity (now FPL) is not as reliable in my new location and I need one. All the reviews I've seen on Amazon fo

Re: OT: Re: Git Branching

2023-03-05 Thread tomas
On Sun, Mar 05, 2023 at 09:05:01AM +0100, john doe wrote: > On 3/5/23 04:59, William Torrez Corea wrote: > > I am working with remotes, when i want push to the remote with this command > > What CMD? > > > appear the following error: > > > > *git push main master* > > This error looks to indicat

OT: Re: Git Branching

2023-03-05 Thread john doe
On 3/5/23 04:59, William Torrez Corea wrote: I am working with remotes, when i want push to the remote with this command What CMD? appear the following error: *git push main master* This error looks to indicate that you are pushing to main and master branches. fatal: 'main' does not app

Re: OT: Re: systemd automount unit: run only when server is reachable

2022-09-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 12:10:29PM +0200, Jürgen Bausa wrote: > > > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. September 2022 um 08:17 Uhr > > Von: "john doe" > > > > I would say the Systemd mailing list but this list is awsome and I'm > > also guilty of being OT from time to time! > > > > I already asked at

Aw: OT: Re: systemd automount unit: run only when server is reachable

2022-09-13 Thread Jürgen Bausa
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. September 2022 um 08:17 Uhr > Von: "john doe" > > I would say the Systemd mailing list but this list is awsome and I'm > also guilty of being OT from time to time! > I already asked at systemd-devel, but got no answer. Is there another systemd mailing list? Jürgen

OT: Re: systemd automount unit: run only when server is reachable

2022-09-12 Thread john doe
On 9/12/2022 7:05 PM, Joe wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2022 09:31:07 +0200 Jürgen Bausa wrote: >> I am sure this is not the best place to ask it (I know, its off-topic), But posting to other lists I didnt get an answer. So if you know a better place to ask it please point me there. I would say the

Re: OT: Re: determining hotkeys for a program, without a manual?

2022-08-21 Thread Karen Lewellen
will need a mod's permission I believe before sending a program to the list? Karen On Sun, 21 Aug 2022, john doe wrote: On 8/21/2022 8:46 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: program is small enough to be sent as an attachment. and will do this, if given permission. You can do it through the list

Re: OT: Re: determining hotkeys for a program, without a manual?

2022-08-21 Thread john doe
On 8/21/2022 8:46 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: program is small enough to be sent as an attachment. and will do this, if given permission. You can do it through the list if it works. I have no idea how to use a DOS PRG, so that is all I can help you with. my needs are two. The hotkey to launch

Re: OT: Re: determining hotkeys for a program, without a manual?

2022-08-21 Thread Karen Lewellen
program is small enough to be sent as an attachment. and will do this, if given permission. my needs are two. The hotkey to launch the program itself, and the hotkey for changing the port number. I suspect I have the correct first hotkey but that the default port is the problem. Karen On S

OT: Re: determining hotkeys for a program, without a manual?

2022-08-21 Thread john doe
On 8/21/2022 8:32 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: That is correct. when I type openport /?  it simply presents the openport already installed message. Can you put this PRG somewhere so it can be downloaded? I guess, your best bet would be to tell us what feature do you need! :) -- John Doe

Re: OT, Re: Answering to the question

2022-07-22 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Nicolas George wrote: > > 1. Have you read the question in full? Very good point. The same is true for other people's anwers before commenting on them. (Cough. I still feel embarrassed about the "make" blooper.) john doe wrote: > Language barrier. Or a neighbor ringing the door bell. There

OT, Re: Answering to the question (was: Problem Running Python with Apache2 on Debian)

2022-07-22 Thread john doe
On 7/22/2022 6:50 PM, Nicolas George wrote: Edwin Zimmerman (12022-07-22): You are right.  I stopped reading when I saw the tkinter import. I was considering sending to this list a general advice about answering the question as it is asked, with three checks. You just made me insert a fourth o

Re: [OT] Re: One-user system.

2022-05-06 Thread Nicolas George
Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE (12022-05-06): > > I think you're vastly underestimating the average age of subscribers > > on this list. > yeah, I started with CP/M on Z80 You need to be very old to have used these machines indeed, but probably not old enough to change the average age of a list with thousan

[OT] Re: Android email client that does bottom posting

2022-04-28 Thread didier gaumet
Le jeudi 28 avril 2022 à 12:41 +, Keith Bainbridge a écrit : > Good Evening All > > I top posted last night, in error.  Sorry > > I have asked the devs where the bottom posting setting has gone. Hello, (K9 Mail) Account Settings > Sending mail > Reply after quoted text

Re: OT: Re: is it possible to send e-mail via Yahoo's smtp servers using Thunderbird (78.13.0)?

2021-09-10 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 11/9/21 9:48 am, piorunz wrote: Offtopic: You sure you want to use Yahoo knowing what are they capable of, or, what they are not capable of doing, where they should? https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/yahoo-admits-staff-knew-state-sponsored-hack-2014-1590924 https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/yahoo

OT: Re: is it possible to send e-mail via Yahoo's smtp servers using Thunderbird (78.13.0)?

2021-09-10 Thread piorunz
Offtopic: You sure you want to use Yahoo knowing what are they capable of, or, what they are not capable of doing, where they should? https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/yahoo-admits-staff-knew-state-sponsored-hack-2014-1590924 https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/yahoo-breach-one-billion-state-government-act

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-05-08 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Sat, May 8, 2021, 7:22 AM Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 21 mar 21, 09:55:32, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > Of course the *primary* private key should be protected properly. A > > Debian recommendation (that I can't find) was suggesting to generate and > > keep it on a Tails USB stick and use

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-05-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 21 mar 21, 09:55:32, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > Of course the *primary* private key should be protected properly. A > Debian recommendation (that I can't find) was suggesting to generate and > keep it on a Tails USB stick and use it only for certifying other keys. > > Day to day work (mes

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-23 Thread Brian
On Tue 23 Mar 2021 at 21:21:32 +0200, ellanios82 wrote: > On 3/23/21 5:51 PM, Viktor Vogel wrote: > > An observation from a native English speaker - > > > > I've lived and worked in the Republic of China, and had gotten a fairly > > good grasp of Mandarin. In my experience tackling Russian I foun

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-23 Thread ellanios82
On 3/23/21 5:51 PM, Viktor Vogel wrote: An observation from a native English speaker - I've lived and worked in the Republic of China, and had gotten a fairly good grasp of Mandarin. In my experience tackling Russian I found it much more difficult than Chinese. Chinese has different sounds,

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-23 Thread Curt
On 2021-03-23, Viktor Vogel wrote: > An observation from a native English speaker - > > I've lived and worked in the Republic of China, and had gotten a fairly > good grasp of Mandarin. In my experience tackling Russian I found it > much more difficult than Chinese. > I remember seeing an inter

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-23 Thread Viktor Vogel
An observation from a native English speaker - I've lived and worked in the Republic of China, and had gotten a fairly good grasp of Mandarin. In my experience tackling Russian I found it much more difficult than Chinese. Chinese has different sounds, and tones that need to be mastered, but

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-22 Thread Weaver
On 23-03-2021 06:06, deloptes wrote: > Weaver wrote: > >> Not an easy language to learn, however, unless you already have Slavic >> roots. > > You mean Chinese is easier than Russian and Russian is harder than French? > And I mean not only speaking, but also writing Yes, once you understand the

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-22 Thread John Hasler
deloptes writes: > You mean Chinese is easier than Russian and Russian is harder than > French? I have no experience with Chinese but I found Russian harder than French (though I've pretty much forgotten both). -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-22 Thread deloptes
Weaver wrote: > Not an easy language to learn, however, unless you already have Slavic > roots. You mean Chinese is easier than Russian and Russian is harder than French? And I mean not only speaking, but also writing

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-22 Thread Weaver
On 23-03-2021 05:47, deloptes wrote: > Weaver wrote: > >> Yes. >> But, once there, far better to learn the language. >> The resultant experience is well worth it. >> The money is not the same, but the cost of living is much lower. >> Cheers! > > I was thinking to go to Chech Republic or Russia -

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-22 Thread deloptes
Weaver wrote: > Yes. > But, once there, far better to learn the language. > The resultant experience is well worth it. > The money is not the same, but the cost of living is much lower. > Cheers! I was thinking to go to Chech Republic or Russia - found the language easier, but thanks anyway - wil

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-22 Thread Weaver
On 22-03-2021 19:00, deloptes wrote: > Weaver wrote: > >> They have some excellent language schools and, being surrounded by it, >> it's a fast way to learn. > > you mean I can look for a position in China without knowing Chinese? Yes. But, once there, far better to learn the language. The resu

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-22 Thread Joe
On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 01:20:02 + (UTC) Long Wind wrote: > > term Chinese government is quite misleadingit's used as if it's same > as other legitimate  government, i.e. elected by people its true > nature is criminal group, as described in bill by US senator > All governments are criminal g

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-22 Thread deloptes
Weaver wrote: > They have some excellent language schools and, being surrounded by it, > it's a fast way to learn. you mean I can look for a position in China without knowing Chinese?

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-22 Thread Weaver
On 22-03-2021 18:13, deloptes wrote: > Long Wind wrote: > >> where do you live? most rich Chinese are considering emigration to West, >> this is called vote by feet. how many people in West come to live in >> china? > > my problem is the language, otherwise we could switch for couple of years to

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-22 Thread deloptes
Long Wind wrote: > where do you live? most rich Chinese are considering emigration to West, > this is called vote by feet. how many people in West come to live in > china? my problem is the language, otherwise we could switch for couple of years to exchange experience

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-22 Thread Larry Martell
LOn Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 11:49 PM Long Wind wrote: > where do you live? most rich Chinese are considering emigration to West, > this is called vote by feet. how many people in West come to live in china? > I know quite a few Chinese people who lived in the US for 5-8 years and could have easily s

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-22 Thread John Hasler
deloptes writes: > The difference as said is, that you know what China is doing You think you know what China is doing. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-22 Thread Weaver
On 22-03-2021 16:49, Long Wind wrote: > On Monday, March 22, 2021, 2:20:20 PM GMT+8, deloptes > wrote: > > The difference as said is, that you know what China is doing, but you > do not > > know what USA is doing. The moment you speak out (Assange, Snowden and > many > > many others) it is the

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-22 Thread Weaver
On 22-03-2021 16:19, deloptes wrote: > Long Wind wrote: > >> term Chinese government is quite misleadingit's used as if it's same as >> other legitimate  government, i.e. elected by people its true nature is >> criminal group, as described in bill by US senator > > The difference as said is, that

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread Long Wind
On Monday, March 22, 2021, 2:20:20 PM GMT+8, deloptes wrote: The difference as said is, that you know what China is doing, but you do not know what USA is doing. The moment you speak out (Assange, Snowden and many many others) it is the same as China. China is bad, but the illusion of democr

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread deloptes
Long Wind wrote: > term Chinese government is quite misleadingit's used as if it's same as > other legitimate  government, i.e. elected by people its true nature is > criminal group, as described in bill by US senator The difference as said is, that you know what China is doing, but you do not kn

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread Weaver
On 22-03-2021 11:20, Long Wind wrote: > deloptes wrote: > > Well, they are brain washed - in a sense they know that it is > impossible to > > stand up against and also might be not wise, because proven is the > fact > > they manage things better than neighbor India or developed Europe. > > I

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread Long Wind
 deloptes wrote: Well, they are brain washed - in a sense they know that it is impossible to stand up against and also might be not wise, because proven is the fact they manage things better than neighbor India or developed Europe. I wanted to avoid being criticized for praising China. can yo

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread Joe
On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 14:33:50 +0100 deloptes wrote: > Weaver wrote: > > > > I was in China at the time, and it was far from > > `totalitarian/militant'. The people just played it smart, as they > > also did in New Zealand, which was also not > > `totalitarian/militant'. > > Well, they are b

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread deloptes
Weaver wrote: > On 21-03-2021 20:39, deloptes wrote: >> Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> >>> In hindsight, what was meant as a joke probably came out as mocking, I >>> apologise for that. >>> >>> I'm sure you do know that the public key needs to be made available for >>> others to be able to send you enc

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread Weaver
On 21-03-2021 20:39, deloptes wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >> In hindsight, what was meant as a joke probably came out as mocking, I >> apologise for that. >> >> I'm sure you do know that the public key needs to be made available for >> others to be able to send you encrypted messages. >> >> O

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread deloptes
Andrei POPESCU wrote: > In hindsight, what was meant as a joke probably came out as mocking, I > apologise for that. > > I'm sure you do know that the public key needs to be made available for > others to be able to send you encrypted messages. > > Of course the *primary* private key should be p

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 20 mar 21, 19:11:07, deloptes wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > In my (not so humble) opinion, this level of security could make sense > > for a disident in a totalitarian state, less so for regular users in > > democratic country. > > > > And you disappoint me here too - you believe i

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 20 mar 21, 19:03:58, deloptes wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > Good luck in doing public key cryptography without publishing the public > > key :) > > Andrei - you disappoint me here! In hindsight, what was meant as a joke probably came out as mocking, I apologise for that. I'm sur

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread Weaver
On 21-03-2021 17:06, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On Sun Mar 21 00:01:59 2021 Stefan Monnier wrote: > >>> In my (not so humble) opinion, this level of security could make >>> sense for a disident in a totalitarian state, less so for regular >>> users in democratic country. >> >> Reminds me of the sayin

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-21 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On Sun Mar 21 00:01:59 2021 Stefan Monnier wrote: >> In my (not so humble) opinion, this level of security could make >> sense for a disident in a totalitarian state, less so for regular >> users in democratic country. > > Reminds me of the saying that the difference between USA and USSR was > t

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-20 Thread deloptes
Stefan Monnier wrote: > Reminds me of the saying that the difference between USA and USSR was > that in USSR the population knew that it was propaganda. Exactly - this part is absolutely the same. The difference is in the methods. There it was wellknown, here - not until internet came out ... or

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-20 Thread Stefan Monnier
> In my (not so humble) opinion, this level of security could make sense > for a disident in a totalitarian state, less so for regular users in > democratic country. Reminds me of the saying that the difference between USA and USSR was that in USSR the population knew that it was propaganda.

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-20 Thread deloptes
Andrei POPESCU wrote: > In my (not so humble) opinion, this level of security could make sense > for a disident in a totalitarian state, less so for regular users in > democratic country. > And you disappoint me here too - you believe in illusion of democracy, which is not so obvious as i.e. in

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-20 Thread deloptes
Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Good luck in doing public key cryptography without publishing the public > key :) Andrei - you disappoint me here!

Re: [OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 19 mar 21, 00:54:08, deloptes wrote: > Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > I hear there's a lot of interesting discussions there about how to > > communicate safely, but sadly so far I haven't managed to configure my > > safe not-internet-connected machine to participate. > > do you think it is po

[OT] Re: Social-media antipathy (was Re: How i can optimize my operating system?)

2021-03-18 Thread deloptes
Stefan Monnier wrote: > I hear there's a lot of interesting discussions there about how to > communicate safely, but sadly so far I haven't managed to configure my > safe not-internet-connected machine to participate. do you think it is possible to have public & encrypted discussion, when we do n

[OT] Re: Upstream Default (FOSS) DDX Driver for NVidia GPUs is not Nouveau

2021-01-20 Thread David Wright
On Wed 20 Jan 2021 at 21:17:30 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: > When I want TV I use a TV and remote controller and an easy chair or sofa, > not a > workchair and desk and rodent and keyboard and all the distractions of > multitasking. My computers are general purpose tools for getting work done. >

Re: [OT] Re: Guest Samba shares

2020-12-12 Thread Joe
On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 09:14:49 +1100 David wrote: > > In case you don't know, the 'pi' user can be renamed to whatever you > want, so that might be an alternative way to reach your goal instead > of creating a separate 'paulf' user. > I didn't know what other undocumented quirks might apply to

[OT] Re: Guest Samba shares

2020-12-11 Thread David
On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 at 23:19, Paul M Foster wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 05:35:37PM +1100, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > On 11/12/20 1:42 pm, Paul M Foster wrote: > On boot, the system only knows paulf as a user. When it boots and mounts > the drive, it mounts it under the pi user. I don't know

Re: [OT] Re: Bulleye: How do I disable scrolling on touchpad...........

2020-01-12 Thread Default User
On Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 17:50 Charlie wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 13:09:52 -0500 > Default User wrote: > > > My question is totally [OT] to the thread, but may I humbly inquire > > as to the source of the quote that you ascribed to "Teiga" in your > > signature? > > > > Thank you in advance. > >

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