Re: [OT] SCO is going all out now

2003-07-24 Thread Andrew Perrin
Well said. There's simply no there there - SCO has no plausible claim against anyone on these grounds. Given that, there's no excuse for playing it safe as they try to steal one. ap -- Andrew J Perrin -

Re: [OT] SCO is going all out now

2003-07-23 Thread bob parker
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 22:26, Rich Johnson wrote: On Tuesday, July 22, 2003, at 12:32 AM, Brian McGroarty wrote: SCO has made no claims against the 2.2 kernels. If worst comes to worst and SCO finally show some incriminating code in 2.4, stepping back to 2.2 until the relevant bits are

Re: [OT] SCO is going all out now

2003-07-23 Thread Jody Grafals
I make a living (a meager one) building Linux server with debian for small businesses. I have never needed to build a multi CPU system so I always remove the systematic multiprocessing stuff from the kernel when I build, shouldnt this be good enough ? Going back to 2.2 would be a

Re: [OT] SCO is going all out now

2003-07-23 Thread Johan Kullstam
Rich Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tuesday, July 22, 2003, at 12:32 AM, Brian McGroarty wrote: SCO has made no claims against the 2.2 kernels. If worst comes to worst and SCO finally show some incriminating code in 2.4, stepping back to 2.2 until the relevant bits are purged

Re: [OT] SCO is going all out now

2003-07-23 Thread Bret Comstock Waldow
Please stop worrying and educate yourself. This is just muddying up the mail list and the topic. All this angst is easily dispelled. Consider this quote from the article below: SCO/Caldera's claim to own the scalability techniques certainly cannot be supported from the feature list of its own

Re: [OT] SCO is going all out now

2003-07-22 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 00:11, Brian McGroarty wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 11:37:10PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On Mon, 2003-07-21 at 23:32, Brian McGroarty wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 06:25:18PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 07:03:55PM +0200, Roberto Sanchez

Re: [OT] SCO is going all out now

2003-07-22 Thread cr
On Tuesday 22 July 2003 17:37, Sharninder Singh-662 wrote: Do you suspect there could be a long enough delay between releasing the alleged infractions and producing a clean kernel that fully changing OSes could make sense, however? like u said .. if worst comes to worse. either ppl will

Re: [OT] SCO is going all out now

2003-07-22 Thread cr
On Tuesday 22 July 2003 18:42, cr wrote: On Tuesday 22 July 2003 17:37, Sharninder Singh-662 wrote: Do you suspect there could be a long enough delay between releasing the alleged infractions and producing a clean kernel that fully changing OSes could make sense, however? like u said

Re: [OT] SCO is going all out now

2003-07-22 Thread Rich Johnson
On Tuesday, July 22, 2003, at 12:32 AM, Brian McGroarty wrote: SCO has made no claims against the 2.2 kernels. If worst comes to worst and SCO finally show some incriminating code in 2.4, stepping back to 2.2 until the relevant bits are purged from 2.4 is all anyone should need to do to cover

Re: [OT] SCO is going all out now

2003-07-22 Thread John Hasler
Rich Johnson writes: I guess I'll be going back to 2.2 until this nonsense blows over Just because SCO has made some unsubstantiated claims? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: [OT] SCO is going all out now

2003-07-22 Thread Kent West
Rich Johnson wrote: [SCO claims you Linux kernel 2.4 contains their intellectual property and must be licensed] I guess I'll be going back to 2.2 until this nonsense blows oversigh. Well if you're going to be that easy to push over . . . I have undeniable proof that my intellectual

Re: [OT] SCO is going all out now

2003-07-22 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 08:26:49AM -0400, Rich Johnson wrote: I guess I'll be going back to 2.2 until this nonsense blows oversigh. Why bother? Unless you're a corporate site, I really wouldn't worry about it (otherwise consult a lawyer). I

Re: [OT] SCO is going all out now

2003-07-22 Thread Bret Comstock Waldow
On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 08:26, Rich Johnson wrote: I guess I'll be going back to 2.2 until this nonsense blows oversigh. This is terrorism (literally). They can't do much, but maybe they can scare you into doing it to yourself. Check this out:

Re: [OT] SCO is going all out now

2003-07-22 Thread Brian McGroarty
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 08:26:49AM -0400, Rich Johnson wrote: I guess I'll be going back to 2.2 until this nonsense blows oversigh. For a business, I'd just check to be sure that 2.2 will be okay for your needs. But I wouldn't step back to 2.2 until SCO actually makes the claims public.

Re: [OT] SCO is going all out now

2003-07-22 Thread John Foster
Roberto Sanchez wrote: This Slashdot story (http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/21/1516240mode=threadtid=130tid=185tid=187tid=190tid=88) references this Yahoo! story (http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030721/lam075_1.html) where they talk about this: ... it will offer UnixWare® licenses tailored

Re: [OT] SCO is going all out now

2003-07-22 Thread Alan Connor
In response to: From: John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: linux.debian.user Subject: Re: [OT] SCO is going all out now Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roberto Sanchez wrote: This Slashdot story (http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/21/1516240mode=threadtid=130tid=18 5tid=187tid=190tid=88

[OT] SCO is going all out now

2003-07-21 Thread Roberto Sanchez
This Slashdot story (http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/21/1516240mode=threadtid=130tid=185tid=187tid=190tid=88) references this Yahoo! story (http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030721/lam075_1.html) where they talk about this: ... it will offer UnixWare® licenses tailored to support run-time,

Re: [OT] SCO is going all out now

2003-07-21 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Monday 21 July 2003 19:03, Roberto Sanchez wrote: ... it will offer UnixWare® licenses tailored to support run-time, binary use of Linux ... (quoted from the Yahoo! article. Any ideas is this will actually go through? What will Debian do about it? Should we start looking at how the Debian

Re: [OT] SCO is going all out now

2003-07-21 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 07:03:55PM +0200, Roberto Sanchez wrote: This Slashdot story (http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/21/1516240mode=threadtid=130tid=185tid=187tid=190tid=88) references this Yahoo! story (http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030721/lam075_1.html) where they talk about this:

Re: [OT] SCO is going all out now

2003-07-21 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 07:03:55PM +0200, Roberto Sanchez wrote: Any ideas is this will actually go through? Around the time I get a 37-figure income. What will Debian do about it? Laugh. Should we start looking at how the Debian GNU/FreeBSD

Re: [OT] SCO is going all out now

2003-07-21 Thread John Hasler
Roberto write: ... it will offer UnixWare® licenses tailored to support run-time, binary use of Linux ... (quoted from the Yahoo! article. Any ideas is this will actually go through? What do you mean by go through? They don't need anyone's permission to sell a promise not to sue. What will

Re: [OT] SCO is going all out now

2003-07-21 Thread Brian McGroarty
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 06:25:18PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 07:03:55PM +0200, Roberto Sanchez wrote: This Slashdot story (http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/21/1516240mode=threadtid=130tid=185tid=187tid=190tid=88) references this Yahoo! story

Re: [OT] SCO is going all out now

2003-07-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2003-07-21 at 23:32, Brian McGroarty wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 06:25:18PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 07:03:55PM +0200, Roberto Sanchez wrote: [snip] SCO has made no claims against the 2.2 kernels. If worst comes to worst and SCO finally show some

Re: [OT] SCO is going all out now

2003-07-21 Thread Sharninder Singh-662
If worst comes to worst and SCO finally show some incriminating code in 2.4, stepping back to 2.2 until the relevant bits are purged from 2.4 is all anyone should need to do to cover their assets in countries where this becomes an issue. ya .. very true and debian makes it even better by

Re: [OT] SCO is going all out now

2003-07-21 Thread Sharninder Singh-662
Do you suspect there could be a long enough delay between releasing the alleged infractions and producing a clean kernel that fully changing OSes could make sense, however? like u said .. if worst comes to worse. either ppl will develop patches and features for the latest hardware or some