Re: [OT] improving the mailing lists WAS: Re: Debian VPN

2009-02-05 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:15:34 + Joe wrote: [snipped Joe's helpful tips on practical, basic LDAP configuration.] Thanks very much for the information. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -

Re: [OT] improving the mailing lists WAS: Re: Debian VPN

2009-02-05 Thread Joe
Celejar wrote: Your example of LDAP, OTOH, is an interesting one. I've tried more than once to grok LDAP, and given up in bafflement. I can't quite tell if it's inherently just overkill for my needs, or if my Google-fu is just insufficient to find a basic introduction to the system. [I'd be u

Re: [OT] improving the mailing lists WAS: Re: Debian VPN

2009-02-05 Thread consultores1
El mié, 04-02-2009 a las 20:13 -0500, Celejar escribió: > On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:06:31 -0600 > "Stackpole, Chris" wrote: > > > The reaction I was going for is not the one I was wanting. That tells me > > that I wrote my response improperly. I apologize; my fault. > > > > More to the subject, let

Re: [OT] improving the mailing lists WAS: Re: Debian VPN

2009-02-04 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:06:31 -0600 "Stackpole, Chris" wrote: > The reaction I was going for is not the one I was wanting. That tells me that > I wrote my response improperly. I apologize; my fault. > > More to the subject, let me try to explain my view. Please feel free to > comment. Please wr

Re: [OT] improving the mailing lists WAS: Re: Debian VPN

2009-02-04 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Nate Bargmann wrote: > I don't think you're off the mark at all. I was surpised at some of > the commentary posted in my recent Exim4 thread. I have been on this > particular mailing list nearly a decade and one of its hallmarks has > been a lack of RTFM! type posts. There has not been a RTFM po

Re: [OT] improving the mailing lists WAS: Re: Debian VPN

2009-02-04 Thread Nate Bargmann
I don't think you're off the mark at all. I was surpised at some of the commentary posted in my recent Exim4 thread. I have been on this particular mailing list nearly a decade and one of its hallmarks has been a lack of RTFM! type posts. When exploring the darker corners of some package, this l

Re: [OT] improving the mailing lists WAS: Re: Debian VPN

2009-02-04 Thread Nuno Magalhães
Personally, when i'm searching for something, i follow these steps: 1 - do i know what is it that i'm searching? no: wikipedia + search engine (aah.. so that's what a vpn is - just an example) yes: search engine (vpn debian, vpn linux... whatever) Actually even if i know what i'm doing i'll use wik

Re: [OT] improving the mailing lists WAS: Re: Debian VPN

2009-02-04 Thread Alan Ianson
On February 4, 2009 11:06:31 am Stackpole, Chris wrote: > The reaction I was going for is not the one I was wanting. That tells me > that I wrote my response improperly. I apologize; my fault. > > More to the subject, let me try to explain my view. Please feel free to > comment. RTFM has been goin

RE: [OT] improving the mailing lists WAS: Re: Debian VPN

2009-02-04 Thread Stackpole, Chris
The reaction I was going for is not the one I was wanting. That tells me that I wrote my response improperly. I apologize; my fault. More to the subject, let me try to explain my view. Please feel free to comment. I subscribe and watch a number of mailing lists/forums. While there has been a nu

Re: [OT] improving the mailing lists WAS: Re: Debian VPN

2009-02-04 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stackpole, Chris wrote: > Don't get me wrong. There are plenty of times when "RTFM!" and > "Google MotherF! Do you use it?" are appropriate responses (like the > question on the Ubuntu forums asking how to use the 'ls' > command...that post was pret

RE: [OT] improving the mailing lists WAS: Re: Debian VPN

2009-02-04 Thread Stackpole, Chris
> From: Steve Kemp [mailto:s...@debian.org] > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:16 AM > Subject: Re: [OT] improving the mailing lists WAS: Re: Debian VPN > > On Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 09:30:00 -0600, Stackpole, Chris wrote: > > > I just don't see the point in the

Re: [OT] improving the mailing lists WAS: Re: Debian VPN

2009-02-04 Thread Steve Kemp
On Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 09:30:00 -0600, Stackpole, Chris wrote: > I just don't see the point in the less-then-helpful comments in this case. I believe I: a. Suggested openvpn as the most likely candidate. b. Offered the suggestion of using a search engine, and apt-cache, which migh

RE: [OT] improving the mailing lists WAS: Re: Debian VPN

2009-02-04 Thread Stackpole, Chris
; Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:34 AM > Subject: Re: [OT] improving the mailing lists WAS: Re: Debian VPN > > >> Searching 'debian vpn' (the subject of OP's mail) is just about as > good. > >> Maybe it'd save some time, if the mai

Re: [OT] improving the mailing lists WAS: Re: Debian VPN

2009-02-04 Thread Nuno Magalhães
>> Searching 'debian vpn' (the subject of OP's mail) is just about as good. >> Maybe it'd save some time, if the mailing software sent a google search >> link for the subject matter of all primary posts ;-) >> >> ... or at least for those that generate more than say 1,000,000 hits [1]. Or maybe pe

Re: [OT] improving the mailing lists WAS: Re: Debian VPN

2009-02-04 Thread Magnus Therning
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Steve Kemp wrote: >> In the future you might save yourself some time by >> using your favourite search engine "vpn server debian" >> has many results. > > Searching 'debian vpn' (th

[OT] improving the mailing lists WAS: Re: Debian VPN

2009-02-04 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Kemp wrote: > In the future you might save yourself some time by > using your favourite search engine "vpn server debian" > has many results. Searching 'debian vpn' (the subject of OP's mail) is just about as good. Maybe it'd save some time,