Re: [OT]What's the price index of your laptop's battery?

2009-12-13 Thread Emanoil Kotsev
lee wrote: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 10:45:31PM +0100, Emanoil Kotsev wrote: no need of lithium at all. What's the alternative? Have they found another resource to make batteries from? I wanted to say, that they have decided to go for battery production, so that you and me have to pay for

Re: [OT]What's the price index of your laptop's battery?

2009-12-13 Thread Mark Allums
What's the alternative? Have they found another resource to make batteries from? I read some blurbs and articles about work with zinc-air. Apparently, some of the problems with zinc-air have been solved. Zinc-air is known to have an energy density about twice that of lithium, but is still

Re: [OT]What's the price index of your laptop's battery?

2009-12-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 02:49:28PM +0530, Girish Kulkarni wrote: On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Klistvud wrote: My sister has an even older Dell (it must be at least 5 or 6 years) which still lasts just under an hour on the *original* battery. In the meantime, I've had at least 3 or 4 batteries in two

Re: [OT]What's the price index of your laptop's battery?

2009-12-12 Thread lee
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 05:41:05PM -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 01:42:49 +0100 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de dijo: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 10:45:31PM +0100, Emanoil Kotsev wrote: no need of lithium at all. What's the alternative? Have they found another resource to

Re: [OT]What's the price index of your laptop's battery?

2009-12-12 Thread Chris Jones
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 02:15:32PM EST, lee wrote: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 05:41:05PM -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 01:42:49 +0100 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de dijo: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 10:45:31PM +0100, Emanoil Kotsev wrote: no need of lithium at all.

Re: [OT]What's the price index of your laptop's battery?

2009-12-11 Thread lee
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 06:19:56PM +0100, Klistvud wrote: Would you ever buy a car -- or even a mobile phone -- where the spare/ replacement battery cost 14% of the entire car/phone retail price? Say you got the cheapest Clio or Fiesta for just under 10.000€, but would have to pay over

Re: [OT]What's the price index of your laptop's battery?

2009-12-11 Thread Girish Kulkarni
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Klistvud wrote: My sister has an even older Dell (it must be at least 5 or 6 years) which still lasts just under an hour on the *original* battery. In the meantime, I've had at least 3 or 4 batteries in two different Compaqs die on me. She never unplugged the battery in all

Re: [OT]What's the price index of your laptop's battery?

2009-12-11 Thread Emanoil Kotsev
lee wrote: On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 06:19:56PM +0100, Klistvud wrote: Would you ever buy a car -- or even a mobile phone -- where the spare/ replacement battery cost 14% of the entire car/phone retail price? Say you got the cheapest Clio or Fiesta for just under 10.000€, but would have to

Re: [OT]What's the price index of your laptop's battery?

2009-12-11 Thread lee
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 10:45:31PM +0100, Emanoil Kotsev wrote: no need of lithium at all. What's the alternative? Have they found another resource to make batteries from? So price is what the company decides to put as price. So? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: [OT]What's the price index of your laptop's battery?

2009-12-11 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 01:42:49 +0100 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de dijo: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 10:45:31PM +0100, Emanoil Kotsev wrote: no need of lithium at all. What's the alternative? Have they found another resource to make batteries from? There are lots and lots of ways to make batteries. The

[OT]What's the price index of your laptop's battery?

2009-12-10 Thread Klistvud
Howdie, fellow Debianites! Just today I received the spare battery I had ordered from an online store; the old one had died on me -- as batteries are likely to do, eventually. It's an original HP spare battery for my HP Compaq 6715b and it cost just under 84€ with shipping and all. Now, the

Re: [OT]What's the price index of your laptop's battery?

2009-12-10 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Thursday 10 December 2009 17:22:46 Klistvud wrote: Howdie, fellow Debianites! Just today I received the spare battery I had ordered from an online store; the old one had died on me -- as batteries are likely to do, eventually. It's an original HP spare battery for my HP Compaq 6715b and

Re: [OT]What's the price index of your laptop's battery?

2009-12-10 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 10. 12. 2009 16:40:39 je Thierry Chatelet napisal(a): 1. This is spare parts. Unfortunately, there cost has nothing to do with the price of whatever you bought at first. Build a car from spare parts, you will pay it a few hundred times the price of a new one. Agreed, it's spare

Re: [OT]What's the price index of your laptop's battery?

2009-12-10 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 10. 12. 2009 16:53:49 je Paul Cartwright napisal(a): one of the things I was told to do, was while you run the laptop on AC power, to unplug your battery.. this keeps it from being constantly in the CHARGE mode, and maybe helps it last longer.. just a thought I thought this

Re: [OT]What's the price index of your laptop's battery?

2009-12-10 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:22:46 +0100, Klistvud wrote: Howdie, fellow Debianites! Just today I received the spare battery I had ordered from an online store; the old one had died on me -- as batteries are likely to do, eventually. It's an original HP spare battery for my HP Compaq 6715b and

Re: [OT]What's the price index of your laptop's battery?

2009-12-10 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Klistvud wrote: Agreed, it's spare parts. But buying a spare battery for your car will hardly set you back for 14% of the total cost of a new car. It seems I may have phrased my question awkwardly, so let's try to rephrase it: Would you ever buy a car -- or even a mobile phone -- where

Re: [OT]What's the price index of your laptop's battery?

2009-12-10 Thread owens
Original Message From: quotati...@aliceadsl.fr To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: [OT]What's the price index of your laptop's battery? Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:19:56 +0100 Dne, 10. 12. 2009 16:40:39 je Thierry Chatelet napisal(a): 1. This is spare parts. Unfortunately

Re: [OT]What's the price index of your laptop's battery?

2009-12-10 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Thu December 10 2009, Klistvud wrote: to unplug your battery.. this keeps it from being constantly in the CHARGE mode, and maybe helps it last longer.. just a thought I thought this should be taken care of by the charging circuit in the laptop: if I'm not mistaken, the charging

Re: [OT]What's the price index of your laptop's battery?

2009-12-10 Thread Chris Jones
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:26:30PM EST, ow...@netptc.net wrote: [..] The printer people do this all the time with the price (not cost) of replacement cartridges. I've seen cheap inkjets that go for around USD 35.00 and quality OEM replacement cartridges compatible with said printer at close

Re: [OT]What's the price index of your laptop's battery?

2009-12-10 Thread Stefan Monnier
Would you ever buy a car -- or even a mobile phone -- where the spare/ replacement battery cost 14% of the entire car/phone retail price? Say Actually, with hybrid cars, the battery cost is pretty high as well. Batteries in laptops are very important: longer autonomy is an important selling

Re: [OT]What's the price index of your laptop's battery?

2009-12-10 Thread Rob Owens
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 05:22:46PM +0100, Klistvud wrote: Howdie, fellow Debianites! Just today I received the spare battery I had ordered from an online store; the old one had died on me -- as batteries are likely to do, eventually. It's an original HP spare battery for my HP Compaq 6715b

Re: [OT]What's the price index of your laptop's battery?

2009-12-10 Thread Alexey Salmin
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Rob Owens row...@ptd.net wrote: On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 05:22:46PM +0100, Klistvud wrote: Howdie, fellow Debianites! Just today I received the spare battery I had ordered from an online store; the old one had died on me -- as batteries are likely to do,