Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?)

2016-10-31 Thread Brian
On Mon 31 Oct 2016 at 15:44:37 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 05:11:34PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > Other convenience scripts of similar nature get their own packages and > > put into 'contrib'. > > The ones you have mentioned already (b43-fwcutter, flashplugin-nonfree and

Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?)

2016-10-31 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 05:11:34PM +0300, Reco wrote: > Other convenience scripts of similar nature get their own packages and > put into 'contrib'. The ones you have mentioned already (b43-fwcutter, flashplugin-nonfree and ttf-mscorefonts-installer) do nothing useful without additional, non-free

Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?)

2016-10-31 Thread Brian
On Mon 31 Oct 2016 at 17:11:34 +0300, Reco wrote: > On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 05:15:51PM +, Brian wrote: > > > Pass on the rest because packaging is not something I know much about, > > so I'm most likely to rely on the expertise of the maintainers. The > > changelog might give you some clue

Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?)

2016-10-31 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 05:15:51PM +, Brian wrote: > On Sun 30 Oct 2016 at 18:24:50 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > On Sun, 30 Oct 2016 14:20:44 + > > Brian wrote: > > > > > > printer-driver-hpcups and printer-driver-hpijs would be sufficient

Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?)

2016-10-31 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 07:58:19PM +0100, deloptes wrote: > IMO hplip also supports multifunction devices. Yup. Happen to have one of those. > If you want to use HP device only for printing ... non of this is required. And if I do want to use an HP device for scanning I need

Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?)

2016-10-30 Thread Brian
On Sun 30 Oct 2016 at 19:58:19 +0100, deloptes wrote: > IMO hplip also supports multifunction devices. Correct. > If you want to use HP device only for printing ... non of this is required. Correct. It can, however, depend on which backend you want to send data to the printer if you are fussy.

Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?)

2016-10-30 Thread deloptes
IMO hplip also supports multifunction devices. If you want to use HP device only for printing ... non of this is required. If you want to do a scanning etc it is understandable that a kind of gui has to be provided. It is funny to read your arguments while you are sliding into the Ric's "I think

Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?)

2016-10-30 Thread Brian
On Sun 30 Oct 2016 at 18:24:50 +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Sun, 30 Oct 2016 14:20:44 + > Brian wrote: > > > > printer-driver-hpcups and printer-driver-hpijs would be sufficient for > > just printing. That is why the packages are provided. > > 'Should be'

Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?)

2016-10-30 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, 30 Oct 2016 14:20:44 + Brian wrote: > On Sun 30 Oct 2016 at 00:20:43 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 20:36:27 +0100 > > Brian wrote: > > > > > On Sat 29 Oct 2016 at 21:51:48 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > > > > Oh,

Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?)

2016-10-30 Thread Brian
On Sun 30 Oct 2016 at 00:20:43 +0300, Reco wrote: > On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 20:36:27 +0100 > Brian wrote: > > > On Sat 29 Oct 2016 at 21:51:48 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > > Oh, and don't get me started on the way they package hplip. > > > > Please do. What is wrong with the

Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?)

2016-10-29 Thread deloptes
Reco wrote: > 1) Python as a dependency, again. Wait, haven't we install one already > with 'hplip-data'? Some python modules too, yet the package does not > contain a single python script (see pt 6). IMO python should be banned from real development. I dislike the new KDE most of all because

Re: [OT] Sorry state of hplip (was: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?)

2016-10-29 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 20:36:27 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Sat 29 Oct 2016 at 21:51:48 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 19:54:27 +0200 > > deloptes wrote: > > > > > Reco wrote: > > > > > > > So basically you're

Re: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?

2016-10-29 Thread deloptes
Brian wrote: > On Sat 29 Oct 2016 at 21:51:48 +0300, Reco wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 19:54:27 +0200 >> deloptes wrote: >> >> > Reco wrote: >> > >> > > So basically you're proposing to force the user to install GTK3 (with >> > > both C and C++ bindinds) just

Re: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?

2016-10-29 Thread Brian
On Sat 29 Oct 2016 at 21:51:48 +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 19:54:27 +0200 > deloptes wrote: > > > Reco wrote: > > > > > So basically you're proposing to force the user to install GTK3 (with > > > both C and C++ bindinds) just to install

Re: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?

2016-10-29 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 19:54:27 +0200 deloptes wrote: > Reco wrote: > > > So basically you're proposing to force the user to install GTK3 (with > > both C and C++ bindinds) just to install pulseaudio. > > > > There are reasons that this distribution is called

Re: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?

2016-10-29 Thread deloptes
Reco wrote: > So basically you're proposing to force the user to install GTK3 (with > both C and C++ bindinds) just to install pulseaudio. > > There are reasons that this distribution is called Debian, not > You-favorite-enterprisey-tangled-dependency-mess, and one of those > reasons is a

Re: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?

2016-10-29 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 12:34:44 -0400 Ric Moore wrote: > On 10/28/2016 05:39 PM, deloptes wrote: > > Ric Moore wrote: > > > >> pavucontrol should have been a depend on pulseaudio since the beginning > >> as you can't do squat without it. Try to remove firefox and

Re: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?

2016-10-29 Thread Ric Moore
On 10/28/2016 05:39 PM, deloptes wrote: Ric Moore wrote: pavucontrol should have been a depend on pulseaudio since the beginning as you can't do squat without it. Try to remove firefox and you lose your entire desktop. Go figure. Ric Thank you Ric. I don't think pavucontrol depends on

Re: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?

2016-10-28 Thread deloptes
Ric Moore wrote: > pavucontrol should have been a depend on pulseaudio since the beginning > as you can't do squat without it. Try to remove firefox and you lose > your entire desktop. Go figure. Ric Thank you Ric. I don't think pavucontrol depends on pulseaudio apt-cache show pulseaudio

Re: [SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?

2016-10-27 Thread Ric Moore
On 10/27/2016 03:58 PM, D. R. Evans wrote: deloptes wrote on 10/27/2016 12:14 PM: It looks reasonable. What you can do, since you have pulse installed, you could run pavucontrol and setup the input devices properly. Perhaps your problem is visible there - muted/default etc. I usually start

[SOLVED] Re: [jessie] recording line-in using ALSA?

2016-10-27 Thread D. R. Evans
deloptes wrote on 10/27/2016 12:14 PM: >> > > It looks reasonable. What you can do, since you have pulse installed, you > could run pavucontrol and setup the input devices properly. Perhaps your > problem is visible there - muted/default etc. I usually start recording and > run pavucontrol,