On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:41:21 -0700
Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Andrew,
I loved Flying Circus!
No, you didn't!
Well, now you're just contradicting.
To argue, one has to take up a contrary stance.
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/ ) The blindingly obvious is
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 21:15:05 -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote:
Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:50:14AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:13:29 -0500, Kent West wrote:
Florian Kulzer wrote:
Is this the right room for an argument?
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:19:15PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 21:15:05 -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote:
Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:50:14AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:13:29 -0500, Kent West wrote:
Florian Kulzer
On Sun April 13 2008 03:19:15 Florian Kulzer wrote:
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 21:15:05 -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote:
Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:50:14AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:13:29 -0500, Kent West wrote:
Florian Kulzer wrote:
Is
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On Friday 11 April 2008 10:10:22 pm Mark Allums wrote:
The problems with waste are slowly being solved, even without breeders.
But you make a good point. However, I would prefer it if the
breeders were in the arid Southwest deserts, and not
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 08:18:33PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
...
As for everyone else why are we having this crap discussion
AGAIN.
only a matter of time. real traffic is down, OT is up... flame wars a
comin'
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On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 08:36:26 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 08:18:33PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
...
As for everyone else why are we having this crap discussion
AGAIN.
only a matter of time. real traffic is down, OT is up... flame wars a
comin'
Is
Florian Kulzer wrote:
Is this the right room for an argument?
HA-H!
I loved Flying Circus!
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Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
[...]
only a matter of time. real traffic is down, OT is up... flame wars a
comin'
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Andrew, since it's OT time, tell me more about your International. I
am currently restoring a 1948 IH KB1, myself. Parts and reliable
information are hard
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:13:29 -0500, Kent West wrote:
Florian Kulzer wrote:
Is this the right room for an argument?
HA-H!
I loved Flying Circus!
No, you didn't!
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On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 02:25:49PM -0500, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
[...]
only a matter of time. real traffic is down, OT is up... flame wars a
comin'
...
Andrew, since it's OT time, tell me more about your International. I
am currently
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:50:14AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:13:29 -0500, Kent West wrote:
Florian Kulzer wrote:
Is this the right room for an argument?
HA-H!
I loved Flying Circus!
No, you didn't!
Well, now you're just contradicting.
A
Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:50:14AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:13:29 -0500, Kent West wrote:
Florian Kulzer wrote:
Is this the right room for an argument?
HA-H!
I loved Flying Circus!
No, you
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 05:45:01PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 08:36:26 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 08:18:33PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
...
As for everyone else why are we having this crap discussion
AGAIN.
only a
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote:
[snip]
It *is* a pain. Friends in Western NY also say that milk about $3/gal.
Come on guys, it's not fair. You are complaining about 3$/gal for milk
and gas? What about Europe, where we pay
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On 04/11/08 07:40, Christopher Judd wrote:
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote:
[snip]
It *is* a pain. Friends in Western NY also say that milk about $3/gal.
Come on guys, it's not fair. You
On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Andrew Sackville-West
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey! I'm almost poor, ignorant of many things, and often boorish, but
I'll *never* drink cheap beer, you insensitive clod!
You know, thunderbird isn't just a web browser. :)
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On 04/11/08 08:18, David Fox wrote:
On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Andrew Sackville-West
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey! I'm almost poor, ignorant of many things, and often boorish, but
I'll *never* drink cheap beer, you insensitive clod!
On Friday 11 April 2008 06:16:21 am Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/11/08 07:40, Christopher Judd wrote:
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote:
[snip]
It *is* a pain. Friends in Western NY also say that milk about
$3/gal.
Come on guys,
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On 04/11/08 10:03, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2008 06:16:21 am Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/11/08 07:40, Christopher Judd wrote:
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote:
[snip]
It *is* a
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2008 06:16:21 am Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/11/08 07:40, Christopher Judd wrote:
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote:
[snip]
It *is* a pain. Friends in Western NY
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 08:54:20AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
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On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Andrew Sackville-West
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey! I'm almost poor, ignorant of many things, and often
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Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 04:04:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/06/08 15:51, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sunday 06 April 2008 05:03:13 am Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/06/08 02:20, Nate Duehr
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On 04/11/08 13:02, Kevin Mark wrote:
[snip]
Thunderbird is a brand of cheap alcohol mostly drunk by winos --bums. It
Shame on you for insinuating such a mean thing about the Differently
Drinking
- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA USA
We
On Friday 11 April 2008 08:17:56 am Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/11/08 10:03, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2008 06:16:21 am Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/11/08 07:40, Christopher Judd wrote:
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote:
[snip]
On Friday 11 April 2008 08:23:19 am Damon L. Chesser wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2008 06:16:21 am Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/11/08 07:40, Christopher Judd wrote:
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote:
[snip]
It *is* a
On Friday 11 April 2008 11:29:02 am Rich Healey wrote:
pfft. i pay $1.60 AUD a litre for diesel.
Petrol prices ar buggered everywhere.. which makes me wonder.. why iraq?
wasn't freedom.. and based on evidence sure as bloody hell wasn't oil!
Worst yet, the way the whole thing was
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2008 08:23:19 am Damon L. Chesser wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2008 06:16:21 am Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/11/08 07:40, Christopher Judd wrote:
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/10/08
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2008 11:29:02 am Rich Healey wrote:
pfft. i pay $1.60 AUD a litre for diesel.
Petrol prices ar buggered everywhere.. which makes me wonder.. why iraq?
wasn't freedom.. and based on evidence sure as bloody hell wasn't oil!
Worst yet, the way
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On 04/11/08 15:19, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2008 08:17:56 am Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/11/08 10:03, Paul Johnson wrote:
[snip]
Depends on the country. In France, they pay less taxes, and with those
taxes they get college and
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On 04/11/08 15:20, Paul Johnson wrote:
[snip]
We saw what happens under Reagan. It degenerates into the libertarian
dystopia we're approaching now.
I hate it when I agree with you...
- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA USA
We want... a
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On 04/11/08 15:40, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
[snip]
your knowledge of Linux is very good. Your knowledge of economics is
not as good. The fact that China is sucking up all the oil they can buy
on the free market has nothing to do with
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 02:41:00PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/11/08 13:02, Kevin Mark wrote:
[snip]
Thunderbird is a brand of cheap alcohol mostly drunk by winos --bums. It
Shame on you for insinuating such a mean thing about the Differently
Drinking
the soberly impaired?
A
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 04:01:43PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/11/08 15:19, Paul Johnson wrote:
Just because
he's
dead now doesn't mean he didn't have good ideas that worked wonders,
contrary
to what Rush thinks.
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On 04/11/08 17:40, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 04:01:43PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/11/08 15:19, Paul Johnson wrote:
Just because
he's
dead now doesn't
Paul Johnson wrote:
Health care would be a big one.
And taxes are much lower here, and the torte system so different,
and people so much more eager to sue.
Depends on the country. In France, they pay less taxes, and with
those taxes they get college and healthcare at no extra charge. We
On Friday 11 April 2008 01:40:05 pm Damon L. Chesser wrote:
The fact that China is sucking up all the oil they can buy on the free
market has nothing to do with $100/barrel, does it?
You are confusing correlation with causation. China's been industrializing
for the last 20 years now. Oil
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 06:22:10PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
That just violates basic economic principals, setting the price below the
balance of supply and demand, especially given we're talking about an
international commodities market and thus don't have the aboslute authority
to make
On Friday 11 April 2008 02:01:43 pm Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/11/08 15:19, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2008 08:17:56 am Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/11/08 10:03, Paul Johnson wrote:
[snip]
Depends on the country. In France, they pay less taxes, and with those
taxes they get
On Friday 11 April 2008 01:33:00 pm Damon L. Chesser wrote:
It does? News to me. Again, study your history, longest un-interrupted
economic growth in the history of the US.
Reagan was still starring in movies or acting as the president of the labor
union he was a member of during much of
On Friday 11 April 2008 05:19:08 pm Mark Allums wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
Health care would be a big one.
And taxes are much lower here, and the torte system so different,
and people so much more eager to sue.
Depends on the country. In France, they pay less taxes, and with
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On 04/11/08 21:01, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2008 01:33:00 pm Damon L. Chesser wrote:
It does? News to me. Again, study your history, longest un-interrupted
economic growth in the history of the US.
Reagan was still starring in
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On 04/11/08 21:12, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2008 05:19:08 pm Mark Allums wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
Health care would be a big one.
And taxes are much lower here, and the torte system so different,
and people so much more
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On 04/11/08 20:37, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 06:22:10PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
That just violates basic economic principals, setting the price below the
balance of supply and demand, especially given we're talking
On Friday 11 April 2008 07:17:19 pm Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/11/08 21:01, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2008 01:33:00 pm Damon L. Chesser wrote:
It does? News to me. Again, study your history, longest un-interrupted
economic growth in the history of the US.
Reagan was still
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On 04/11/08 21:30, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2008 07:17:19 pm Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/11/08 21:01, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2008 01:33:00 pm Damon L. Chesser wrote:
It does? News to me. Again, study your history,
Paul Johnson wrote:
Eliminating all
corporate tax breaks would be a good idea, as well: After World War II,
corporations accounted for nearly 40% of US tax revenue, today it's less than
5%.
You are an idiot. Yes, corporate taxes are paid by corporations who pass
the the bill onto
On Fri April 11 2008 20:18:33 Steve Lamb wrote:
You are an idiot. Yes, corporate taxes are paid by corporations who
pass the the bill onto individuals. It was 0% before and its 0% now.
Individuals paid it then and individuals pay it now. You just want it back
because it's a secret tax
Mike Bird wrote:
You're mistaken Steve. Individuals pass on their tax costs to corporations
in the form of higher wage demands. Individual income tax should be zero.
Corporations should be taxed on their profits in order to pay for the
infrastucture and military necessary for corporations to
Ron Johnson wrote:
If only Canada had a nice place to dump spent nuclear fuel the way China
France doesn't have problems with spent nuclear fuel, because they
use breeder reactors. We should, too.
The problems with waste are slowly being solved, even without breeders.
But you make a good
On Friday 11 April 2008 08:52:10 pm Steve Lamb wrote:
Mike Bird wrote:
You're mistaken Steve. Individuals pass on their tax costs to
corporations in the form of higher wage demands. Individual income tax
should be zero. Corporations should be taxed on their profits in order to
pay for
On Friday 11 April 2008 10:10:22 pm Mark Allums wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
If only Canada had a nice place to dump spent nuclear fuel the way China
France doesn't have problems with spent nuclear fuel, because they
use breeder reactors. We should, too.
The problems with waste are slowly
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 04:04:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/06/08 15:51, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sunday 06 April 2008 05:03:13 am Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/06/08 02:20, Nate Duehr wrote:
[snip]
What a deal! I bet ALL of the concerned parents will be sending BOTH
the difference
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On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 04:04:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/06/08 15:51, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sunday 06 April 2008 05:03:13 am Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/06/08 02:20, Nate Duehr wrote:
[snip]
On Thursday 10 April 2008 11:51:24 am Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 04:04:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/06/08 15:51, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sunday 06 April 2008 05:03:13 am Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/06/08 02:20, Nate Duehr wrote:
[snip]
What a deal! I
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 06:33:47PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
And of course the poor, ignorant and boorish aren't reading this
list. Why? They're drinking cheap beer and procreating like rabbits.
Hey! I'm almost poor, ignorant of many things, and often boorish, but
I'll *never* drink cheap
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On 04/06/08 13:23, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 06:33:47PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
And of course the poor, ignorant and boorish aren't reading this
list. Why? They're drinking cheap beer and procreating like rabbits.
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 11:07:35PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/06/08 13:23, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 06:33:47PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
And of course the poor, ignorant and boorish aren't reading this
list. Why? They're drinking cheap beer and
On Apr 5, 2008, at 9:41 PM, Hal Vaughan wrote:
On Saturday 05 April 2008, Nate Duehr wrote:
On Apr 5, 2008, at 8:56 PM, Charlie wrote:
I suppose by that standard you imagine that children have no worth
at all? I
can't really agree. As one who was a child once, I think children
are an
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On 04/06/08 02:20, Nate Duehr wrote:
[snip]
What a deal! I bet ALL of the concerned parents will be sending BOTH
the difference in their original taxes in 2006 and their rebate checks
straight to the education system. (Rolling eyes.)
Yes,
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On 04/05/08 21:59, Hal Vaughan wrote:
On Saturday 05 April 2008, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Saturday 05 April 2008 02:24:17 pm Hal Vaughan wrote:
I truly hope you're being facetious because the alternative would
be to wonder if you've ever talked to
On Sunday 06 April 2008 05:03:13 am Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/06/08 02:20, Nate Duehr wrote:
[snip]
What a deal! I bet ALL of the concerned parents will be sending BOTH
the difference in their original taxes in 2006 and their rebate checks
straight to the education system. (Rolling
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On 04/06/08 15:51, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sunday 06 April 2008 05:03:13 am Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/06/08 02:20, Nate Duehr wrote:
[snip]
What a deal! I bet ALL of the concerned parents will be sending BOTH
the difference in their original
On Friday 04 April 2008 10:35:26 am Hal Vaughan wrote:
I would agree with you. I know there are people who will starve rather
than violate their beliefs, but I also wonder what he would do if he
had a kid to feed and his choice was to program for a company that
produces closed source
On Saturday 05 April 2008, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Friday 04 April 2008 10:35:26 am Hal Vaughan wrote:
I would agree with you. I know there are people who will starve
rather than violate their beliefs, but I also wonder what he would
do if he had a kid to feed and his choice was to program
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On 04/05/08 16:24, Hal Vaughan wrote:
On Saturday 05 April 2008, Paul Johnson wrote:
[snip]
I truly hope you're being facetious because the alternative would be to
wonder if you've ever talked to any parents.
No, but he talks to lots of...
On Apr 5, 2008, at 3:24 PM, Hal Vaughan wrote:
Seems kind
of stupid to put yourself in that kind of ethical dilemma in the
first place. It's not like there aren't six billion other people on
this already overpopulated rock, plopping out another before you can
afford to raise it through age 18
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On 04/05/08 19:46, Nate Duehr wrote:
[snip]
Not going to dive into the fray about overpopulation and people having
children who can't afford to raise them... but I will comment that
having finished my 2007 taxes here recently, and as a (by
On Saturday 05 April 2008 02:24:17 pm Hal Vaughan wrote:
I truly hope you're being facetious because the alternative would be to
wonder if you've ever talked to any parents.
Of course I know parents, and the ones who don't have anything resembling that
kind of money lined up pretty much have
On Sun, 6 Apr 2008, Nate Duehr shared this with us all:
snip
--} By your standard, less than 2% of the entire world's population should
--} ever consider parenthood, and those would be the richest 2% on the
--} planet.
--}
--} Unless you're at least a multi-millionaire (considering numbers
On Saturday 05 April 2008, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Saturday 05 April 2008 02:24:17 pm Hal Vaughan wrote:
I truly hope you're being facetious because the alternative would
be to wonder if you've ever talked to any parents.
Of course I know parents, and the ones who don't have anything
On Apr 5, 2008, at 8:56 PM, Charlie wrote:
I suppose by that standard you imagine that children have no worth
at all? I
can't really agree. As one who was a child once, I think children
are an
extremely valuable asset to a species in the now as well as the
future.
I never said anything
On Apr 5, 2008, at 8:59 PM, Hal Vaughan wrote:
On Saturday 05 April 2008, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Saturday 05 April 2008 02:24:17 pm Hal Vaughan wrote:
I truly hope you're being facetious because the alternative would
be to wonder if you've ever talked to any parents.
Of course I know
On Saturday 05 April 2008, Nate Duehr wrote:
On Apr 5, 2008, at 8:56 PM, Charlie wrote:
I suppose by that standard you imagine that children have no worth
at all? I
can't really agree. As one who was a child once, I think children
are an
extremely valuable asset to a species in the now
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Hal Vaughan wrote on 2008-04-04 02:38:
According to St. IGNUcious himself (aka RMS), at a talk I saw him give
last Thursday, Debian isn't a true GNU/Linux distro because it includes
non-free software.
I'm not saying I agree with him on this,
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 2:38 AM, Hal Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday 03 April 2008, Chris Walters wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
| On 04/03/08 15:39, Ivan Savcic wrote:
| On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Ron Johnson
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
| That smells of
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 10:04:46AM +0200, Ivan Savcic wrote:
AFAIK, RMS considers only one distribution to be really and truly free
-- it's the Gentoo based Ututo[1]. He talked about this in his talk he
held in Belgrade, Serbia.
I have a problem with this. Debian, in it's default install is
On Friday 04 April 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 10:04:46AM +0200, Ivan Savcic wrote:
AFAIK, RMS considers only one distribution to be really and truly
free -- it's the Gentoo based Ututo[1]. He talked about this in his
talk he held in Belgrade, Serbia.
I have
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Andrew Sackville-West
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a problem with this. Debian, in it's default install is almost
assuredly GNU free. And it has the additional freedom of allowing the
user to choose to use non-free software within the structure of it's
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 11:42:47AM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote:
On Friday 04 April 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 10:04:46AM +0200, Ivan Savcic wrote:
AFAIK, RMS considers only one distribution to be really and truly
free -- it's the Gentoo based Ututo[1]. He
On Friday 04 April 2008, Ivan Savcic wrote:
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Andrew Sackville-West
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a problem with this. Debian, in it's default install is
almost assuredly GNU free. And it has the additional freedom of
allowing the user to choose to use
Ivan Savcic wrote:
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Andrew Sackville-West
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a problem with this. Debian, in it's default install is almost
assuredly GNU free. And it has the additional freedom of allowing the
user to choose to use non-free software within the
On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote:
Ivan Savcic wrote:
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Andrew Sackville-West
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a problem with this. Debian, in it's default install is
almost assuredly GNU free. And it has the additional freedom of
allowing the user
Hal Vaughan wrote:
On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote:
Ivan Savcic wrote:
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Andrew Sackville-West
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a problem with this. Debian, in it's default install is
almost assuredly GNU free. And it has the additional
On Friday 04 April 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 11:42:47AM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote:
On Friday 04 April 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 10:04:46AM +0200, Ivan Savcic wrote:
AFAIK, RMS considers only one distribution to be really
On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote:
Hal Vaughan wrote:
On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote:
Ivan Savcic wrote:
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Andrew Sackville-West
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a problem with this. Debian, in it's default install is
almost assuredly
Hal Vaughan wrote:
On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote:
Hal Vaughan wrote:
On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote:
Ivan Savcic wrote:
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Andrew Sackville-West
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a problem with this. Debian,
On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote:
Hal Vaughan wrote:
On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote:
Hal Vaughan wrote:
On Friday 04 April 2008, Michael C wrote:
Ivan Savcic wrote:
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Andrew Sackville-West
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a problem
Hal Vaughan wrote:
stay alive. Some, those generally at the lower levels of Piaget's
Hierarchy of Needs, will say survival is important while those focused
on the higher levels (focused on self actualization) where, since it's
Maslow
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On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 10:04:46AM +0200, Ivan Savcic wrote:
AFAIK, RMS considers only one distribution to be really and truly free
-- it's the Gentoo based Ututo[1]. He talked about this in his talk he
held in Belgrade, Serbia.
I have a
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On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 10:04:46AM +0200, Ivan Savcic wrote:
AFAIK, RMS considers only one distribution to be really and truly free
-- it's the Gentoo based Ututo[1].
On Friday 04 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/04/08 19:09, s. keeling wrote:
Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 10:04:46AM +0200, Ivan Savcic wrote:
AFAIK, RMS considers only one distribution to be really and truly
free -- it's the Gentoo based Ututo[1].
sarcasm Very insightful discussion on Debian losing it's users, I
must notice. /sarcasm
BTW, I don't get the Ubuntu anathema. They stole *our* apt! ?
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On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 05:56:53PM +0200, Ivan Savcic wrote:
sarcasm Very insightful discussion on Debian losing it's users, I
must notice. /sarcasm
BTW, I don't get the Ubuntu anathema. They stole *our* apt! ?
I can't speak for everyone, but for me... nah, just a little fun.
A
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Ivan Savcic wrote:
| sarcasm Very insightful discussion on Debian losing it's users, I
| must notice. /sarcasm
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| BTW, I don't get the Ubuntu anathema. They stole *our* apt! ?
Hey, why target me? I didn't start the thread, and I did post an
Sorry for that personal message, I misclicked. It wasn't aimed at you
specifically.
Anyhow, to get back on topic.
I have myself tried and used a lot of distributions and I have used
(and plan to use more of) FreeBSD. I went through RPM hell of various
distributions, experienced compiling from
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On 04/03/08 13:57, Ivan Savcic wrote:
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So to wrap this long rant up, less people use Debian? Who cares!
People who use it *know* why they use it. Why try to sell a distro
to people who are still impressed by CFLAGS and a ton of eye-candy?
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So to wrap this long rant up, less people use Debian? Who cares!
People who use it *know* why they use it. Why try to sell a distro
to people who are still impressed by CFLAGS and a ton of eye-candy?
That extra 1% of
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On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So to wrap this long rant up, less people use Debian? Who cares!
People who use it *know* why they use it. Why try to sell a distro
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| On 04/03/08 15:39, Ivan Savcic wrote:
| On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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| That smells of elitism. (Not that I mind...)
| No, it's just you can't have all. It's a matter of
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