Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-10-08 Thread Joost Witteveen
Carl Fûrstenberg wrote: On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 12:40:52 +0100, robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: cr wrote: On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 11:57, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 08:24:10 -0500 Rodney Richison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... I run a list for techs/consultants. (ChannelVar.com) They are

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-10-07 Thread Rodney Richison
Cybe R. Wizard wrote: Who are you trying to fool? Your site is a pathetic bare bones sample, probably not even paid for yet as evidenced by the little, "default theme sample" tag in the lower left corner of /every page/. There is /no/ content yet you expect people on this list to listen to you a

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-10-07 Thread Carl Fûrstenberg
On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 12:40:52 +0100, robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > cr wrote: > On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 11:57, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 08:24:10 -0500 Rodney Richison > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > I run a list for techs/consultants. (ChannelVar.com) They are a VERY > q

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-10-07 Thread robin
cr wrote: On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 11:57, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 08:24:10 -0500 Rodney Richison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... I run a list for techs/consultants. (ChannelVar.com) They are a VERY qualified bunch of guys. (Admittedly not linux users

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-10-06 Thread Johann Koenig
On Wednesday October 6 at 02:30pm Mark Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it just me, or did you just install a fresh copy of Apache? > Totally no site anymore? Thats what it looks like, but the server-signature is Apache/1.3.31 Server at www.channelvar.com Port 80 and the folder is apache2-de

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-10-06 Thread Mark Maas
Rodney Richison wrote: I run a list for techs/consultants. (ChannelVar.com) They are a VERY qualified bunch of guys. (Admittedly not linux users though) :) The preferred method is top posting. The preferred format is to allow html. Is it just me, or did you just install a fresh copy of Apache

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-10-06 Thread cr
On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 11:57, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 08:24:10 -0500 > Rodney Richison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ... > > > I run a list for techs/consultants. (ChannelVar.com) > > They are a VERY qualified bunch of guys. (Admittedly not linux users > > though) :) > > The pre

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-10-05 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 08:24:10 -0500 Rodney Richison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > I run a list for techs/consultants. (ChannelVar.com) > They are a VERY qualified bunch of guys. (Admittedly not linux users > though) :) > The preferred method is top posting. > The preferred format is to allow

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-10-05 Thread Grant
Bob Underwood wrote: On Tuesday 05 October 2004 02:32 pm, calvin wrote: On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 08:24:10AM -0500, Rodney Richison wrote: Top posting leads to a big mess. Every non-technical person does it and it ends up with them saying "let's use a forum or something" because they can't fo

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-10-05 Thread Bob Underwood
On Tuesday 05 October 2004 02:32 pm, calvin wrote: > On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 08:24:10AM -0500, Rodney Richison wrote: > >>Top posting leads to a big mess. Every non-technical person does it > >>and it ends up with them saying "let's use a forum or something" > >>because they can't follow the thread

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-10-05 Thread Clive Menzies
On (05/10/04 12:52), Nate Duehr wrote: > Rodney Richison wrote: > > > > > > >>Top posting leads to a big mess. Every non-technical person does it > >>and it ends up with them saying "let's use a forum or something" > >>because they can't follow the thread any longer. Surprise surprise, a > >>forum

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-10-05 Thread Nate Duehr
Rodney Richison wrote: Top posting leads to a big mess. Every non-technical person does it and it ends up with them saying "let's use a forum or something" because they can't follow the thread any longer. Surprise surprise, a forum works with bottom posting and everybody seems to find that normal.

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-10-05 Thread calvin
On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 08:24:10AM -0500, Rodney Richison wrote: > > >>Top posting leads to a big mess. Every non-technical person does it >>and it ends up with them saying "let's use a forum or something" >>because they can't follow the thread any longer. Surprise surprise, a >>forum works with bo

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-10-05 Thread William Ballard
On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 05:05:22PM +0100, Daniel Goldsmith wrote: > pace the whole GMail issue - I use it for mailing lists, for pretty > much the same reasons to do with wastage. I simply cannot afford the > bandwidth to download much of the crud which populates mailing-lists - > Google Inc. can.

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-10-05 Thread Daniel Goldsmith
On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 08:24:10 -0500, Rodney Richison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I run a list for techs/consultants. (ChannelVar.com) > They are a VERY qualified bunch of guys. (Admittedly not linux users > though) :) > The preferred method is top posting. > The preferred format is to allow h

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-10-05 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Rodney Richison: > > >Top posting leads to a big mess. Every non-technical person does it > >and it ends up with them saying "let's use a forum or something" > >because they can't follow the thread any longer. Surprise surprise, a > >forum works with bottom posting and everybody seem

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-10-05 Thread Rodney Richison
Top posting leads to a big mess. Every non-technical person does it and it ends up with them saying "let's use a forum or something" because they can't follow the thread any longer. Surprise surprise, a forum works with bottom posting and everybody seems to find that normal. I run a list for te

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-09-16 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 01:33:12 +, John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Patrick Wiseman wrote: > > >>Have those posting their invites acutally READ > >>http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/index.en.html#ads ? > >> > >> > > > >Cheap shot. I'm not pushing gmail, but the people who are offer

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-09-15 Thread Ryo Furue
Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... [...] > (I'm bottom-posting only because this list - uniquely, in my > experience - insists on it. You really should try reading your email > in reverse chronological order. It works.) Top posting may work. But I t

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-09-15 Thread John Summerfield
Patrick Wiseman wrote: Have those posting their invites acutally READ http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/index.en.html#ads ? Cheap shot. I'm not pushing gmail, but the people who are offering gmail invites do not remotely fall within that policy. Whether gmail sends them itself, it's still

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-09-15 Thread Raquel Rice
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 14:19:43 +0200 Wim De Smet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 09:57:41 +1000, Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 10:37:11PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman said > > > (I'm bottom-posting only because this list - uniquely, in my > > > ex

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-09-15 Thread Wim De Smet
Hi, On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 09:57:41 +1000, Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 10:37:11PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman said > > (I'm bottom-posting only because this list - uniquely, in my > > experience - insists on it. You really should try reading your email > > in reverse chro

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-09-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 10:37:11PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman said > (I'm bottom-posting only because this list - uniquely, in my > experience - insists on it. You really should try reading your email > in reverse chronological order. It works.) Every single technical list (far too many) I'm on is *

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-09-14 Thread Andrew A. Raines
"Andrew A. Raines" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [Nothing but quoted text.] Sigh. I've put this off long enough. (defun aar-dont-send-yet-stupid () "Dang, C-c C-c is easy to hit." (interactive) (message "Type M-x message-send-and-exit...")) (define-key message-mode-map "\C-c\

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-09-14 Thread Andrew A. Raines
Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 03:43:37 +0200, Alexander Schmehl > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> * matt okeson-harlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040912 21:42]: >> > for those bashing on google... have you actually READ the faq's re >> > privacy and security? >> >> Hav

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-09-14 Thread Ionel Mugurel Ciobica
On 13-09-2004, at 23h 14'49", Patrick Wiseman wrote about "Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!" > Even relatively undisciplined correspondents don't make that kind of > mess. And my _top_ posting might just clarify for anyone who's > joining this way-OT-aside

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-09-13 Thread Johann Koenig
I wouldn't mind top posters so much if they would trim the quoted portion of the reply. Top posting makes it easier to forget and include the entire message, which in most cases is unnecessary. -- -johann koenig Now Playing: At the Driv-in - Catacomb : Plea For Peace - Take Action (Vol. 1) Today

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-09-13 Thread Johann Koenig
On Monday September 13 at 10:37pm Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mail-Followup-To: is better than Reply-To: for mailing lists, see http://cr.yp.to/proto/replyto.html > Cheap shot. I'm not pushing gmail, but the people who are offering > gmail invites do not remotely fall within that

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-09-13 Thread Patrick Wiseman
Even relatively undisciplined correspondents don't make that kind of mess. And my _top_ posting might just clarify for anyone who's joining this way-OT-aside what we're discussing. _Insisting_ on bottom posting is, in my view, silly. We should trust each other to be clear. But it's this list's

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-09-13 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote: Kent West wrote: Patrick Wiseman wrote: (I'm bottom-posting only because this list - uniquely, in my experience - insists on it. You really should try reading your email in reverse chronological order. It works.) Not in my experience. As a third-party reader, where do you star

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-09-13 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote: Patrick Wiseman wrote: (I'm bottom-posting only because this list - uniquely, in my experience - insists on it. You really should try reading your email in reverse chronological order. It works.) Not in my experience. As a third-party reader, where do you start in the followi

Re: [Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-09-13 Thread Kent West
Patrick Wiseman wrote: (I'm bottom-posting only because this list - uniquely, in my experience - insists on it. You really should try reading your email in reverse chronological order. It works.) Not in my experience. As a third-party reader, where do you start in the following dialog, and wh

[Way OT] Re: GMAIL Invites..!

2004-09-13 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 03:43:37 +0200, Alexander Schmehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * matt okeson-harlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040912 21:42]: > > for those bashing on google... have you actually READ the faq's re > > privacy and security? > > Have those posting their invites acutally READ > http://w