Re: Brother HL-L1210W

2024-06-24 Thread ajh-valmer
On Sunday 23 June 2024 21:10:48 Fabien Dubois wrote: > aucun souci si ce n'est un petit délai (10-20 s) avant l'impression... C'est un peu le propre des imprimantes laser le délai d'attente un peu long avant le déclenchement de l''impression. Sans doute à cause du temps nécessaire à

[OFFTOPIC] Re: About dash as sh

2024-06-24 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Do shells suffer UB? I always thought that was a C thing. UB is a standard concept when defining programming languages. Most if not all programming languages have some form of UB or another in some part of the spec. C is special w.r.t to UB in two ways: - UB is not relegated to corner cases

Re: Mini-DebConf in Cambridge, UK - October 10-13 2024

2024-06-24 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 12:18:56PM +0200, somebody *claiming* to be Luna Jernberg wrote: Just to be 100% clear, that mail didn't come from Luna's normal gmail account but was instead spoofed and sent via emkei.cz, a "free online fake mailer". It's now blocked from Debian lists. -- Steve

Re: Brother HL-L1210W

2024-06-24 Thread Haricophile
Le Sun, 23 Jun 2024 16:49:50 +0200, Pierre Meurisse a écrit : > Bonjour à tous, > > ma bonne vieille HL 1430 qui m'a servi pendant une vingtaine d'années > sur la même cartouche donne des signes de fatigue. Je soupçonne la > cartouche d'arriver à sa fin. Il y en a qui traînent

RE: Mini-DebConf in Cambridge, UK - October 10-13 2024

2024-06-24 Thread Luna Jernberg
will not be attending Debcamp/Debconf at all this year last week of July/first week of August as I am tired of drama in the Debian community right now and sledge was being an asshole and banned me from OFTC for a month like the transphobic pig he is, however will be attending as an online

Re: PDF Editor for Debian

2024-06-24 Thread jeremy ardley
On 24/6/24 13:35, Richard wrote: So your best bet is just to try to never have to edit a PDF at all. Always try to get a hand on the original file the PDF was delivered from. Even if it's a docx In my view, pdf and docx shoud be regarded as publication formats for content managed in a

Re: PDF Editor for Debian

2024-06-24 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 2:23 AM Arbol One wrote: > Hello. > Is there a PDF editor that would work with Debian 12? > I use Master PDF Editor. It works great. https://code-industry.net/free-pdf-editor/ Thanks. > -- > *ArbolOne.ca* Using Fire Fox and Thunderbird. ArbolOne is composed of >

Re: htmldoc default font size

2024-06-24 Thread Roger Price
On Sun, 23 Jun 2024, Dan Ritter wrote: Use this as a test file: testfile here is the base text run it through htmldoc without using a --fontsize option, open the resulting pdf and measure? I no longer have a working printer, but when I get access to one, I'll do some measurements.

Re: Fail2ban testing

2024-06-24 Thread Olivier
Quelques pistes: - soit n'arrive pas à accéder à une ressources parce qu'une autre instance de fail2ban ou d'un service, a déjà l'accès exclusif à cette ressource - soit un simple problème de droits d'accès sur cette ressource (droits sur le fichier, son répertoire, ...) - soit une règle de

Fail2ban testing

2024-06-24 Thread BERTRAND Joël
Bonjour à tous, Je viens de mettre un serveur de test à jour et fail2ban râle. Je ne vois pas ce qui ne lui plaît pas d'autant qu'il n'est pas verbeux. Ma configuration fail2ban fonctionne parfaitement avec la version 1.0.2-2. Avec la version poussée dans testing

Re: PDF Editor for Debian

2024-06-24 Thread Klaus Singvogel
Arbol One wrote: > Is there a PDF editor that would work with Debian 12? It's depending on what you understand under "edit", and whether you expect to use Free Open Source Software (FOSS) or not. If you just want to fill out forms (JavaScript), then I'd recommend the FOSS programs: chromium

Re: About dash as sh

2024-06-24 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 2:16 AM Nicolas George wrote: > > Stefan Monnier (12024-06-21): > > And if it's not a tty, you get some kind of Undefined Behavior? > > Knowing that “undefined behavior” is just an expression invented by C > standards authors to make “we make no guarantee about it, use it

Re: About dash as sh

2024-06-24 Thread Nicolas George
Stefan Monnier (12024-06-21): > And if it's not a tty, you get some kind of Undefined Behavior? Knowing that “undefined behavior” is just an expression invented by C standards authors to make “we make no guarantee about it, use it at your own risk” sound more scary, I do not think it is a severe

Re: PDF Editor for Debian

2024-06-23 Thread Richard
Hello, this very much depends on what you are expecting it to do. In general, PDFs are only meant to be viewed - and printed - they where never meant for anything else. Even filling out forms is just s bad hackjob through JavaScript. That being said, there is software with PDF editing capabilities

Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam!

2024-06-23 Thread Felix Miata
CHRIS M composed on 2024-06-23 21:36 (UTC-0500): > Felix Miata wrote: >> Stefan's isn't the only, but few others from any source become repeats, one >> of which is every notification of new post added to subscribed thread on >> forums.opensuse.org. >> Trying to get EL to stop putting subscribed

Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam!

2024-06-23 Thread John Hasler
Felix Miata wrote: > Trying to get EL to stop putting subscribed email into "known spam" is > futile. The mechanism EL provides to avoid such diversions doesn't work > with debian mailing list posts. Quit using EL email. Use Pobox. Yes, it costs money. It's worth it. -- John Hasler

Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam! (was: mounting external hard drive...)

2024-06-23 Thread CHRIS M
On Sunday 23 June 2024 03:54:36 pm Felix Miata wrote: > > Stefan's isn't the only, but few others from any source become repeats, one > of which is every notification of new post added to subscribed thread on > forums.opensuse.org. > > Trying to get EL to stop putting subscribed email into

PDF Editor for Debian

2024-06-23 Thread Arbol One
Hello. Is there a PDF editor that would work with Debian 12? Thanks. -- */ArbolOne.ca/* Using Fire Fox and Thunderbird. ArbolOne is composed of students and volunteers dedicated to providing free services to charitable organizations. ArbolOne on Java Development is in progress [ í ]

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-23 Thread David Wright
On Sun 23 Jun 2024 at 08:41:51 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 23:25:43 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > creation of Pacific/Kiritimati (+14:00), which became a press > > story at the start of the new millennium. > > > > $ TZ=Pacific/Kiritamati date; TZ=Australia/Eucla date

Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam!

2024-06-23 Thread Stefan Monnier
[ Sent directly to debian-user@lists. ] > FWIW, this reply goes to list because I expect high probability Stefan would > not > see it otherwise. Most mailing list posts flow through to me unimpeded. Not so > with Stefan's. AFAICT, every one of his is captured by Earthlink.net's "known > spam"

Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam! (was: mounting external hard drive...)

2024-06-23 Thread Felix Miata
Stefan Monnier composed on 2024-06-23 12:35 (UTC-0400): ... FWIW, this reply goes to list because I expect high probability Stefan would not see it otherwise. Most mailing list posts flow through to me unimpeded. Not so with Stefan's. AFAICT, every one of his is captured by Earthlink.net's "known

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-23 Thread John Hasler
Brad Rogers writes: > Due, mainly, to the literacy of the people that moved, rather than any > deliberate choice. That is, spelling was often a 'best guess'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webster's_Dictionary#Noah_Webster's_American_Dictionary_of_the_English_Language -- John Hasler

Re: Brother HL-L1210W

2024-06-23 Thread Fabien Dubois
Le 23/06/2024 à 16:49, Pierre Meurisse a écrit : Bonjour à tous, ma bonne vieille HL 1430 qui m'a servi pendant une vingtaine d'années sur la même cartouche donne des signes de fatigue. Je soupçonne la cartouche d'arriver à sa fin. Comme je doute de pouvoir retrouver la cartouche adéquate, je

Re: Brother HL-L1210W

2024-06-23 Thread didier gaumet
Daniel a évoqué une piste intéressante pour le remplacement du toner. Au cas où Pierre déciderait de changer tout de même d'imprimante: la tendance actuelle tous OS confondus est de se passer de pilote sur le client, l'appareil (imprimante et/ou scanner) étant vu depuis celui-ci comme un

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-23 Thread tomas
On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 12:35:19PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Indeed my trusty old Thinkpad X30 [...] > - Take the HDD out of the X30 [...] Ah, the old Thinkpads. Swapping out the HD always just one screw away. I'll miss my old X230 (one of the last capable of this trick) which is in

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-23 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Relevant laptop is so old I don't know if it can boot from a physical USB > device. I was suspecting that simplest thing would be copying suitable image > to hard drive and let GRUB earn its keep ;} Indeed my trusty old Thinkpad X30 doesn't boot from USB keys (tho in theory it can boot from a

Re: htmldoc default font size

2024-06-23 Thread eben
On 6/23/24 10:32, Roger Price wrote: I'm using htmldoc 1.9.11-4+deb11u3 to convert html files to pdf.  When playing with the fontsize option I discover that the default is not a whole number, more like 11.2 points. Hmm, maybe the author used something in mm? Weird. 4mm is 11.33 points. --

Re: htmldoc default font size

2024-06-23 Thread Dan Ritter
Roger Price wrote: > I'm using htmldoc 1.9.11-4+deb11u3 to convert html files to pdf. When > playing with the fontsize option I discover that the default is not a whole > number, more like 11.2 points. Is this the expected behaviour ? > > Background: The manual at

Re: Brother HL-L1210W

2024-06-23 Thread Daniel SAUVARD
Bonjour. Une rapide recherche sur Internet indique qu'on pourrait trouver des cartouches compatibles avec cette imprimante, notamment chez France toner (https://www.francetoner.fr/ref-TN6600-id177012-1.html?k=9364), mais je ne connais pas la fiabilité de ces sites. Cordialement. Le

Re: OT: Linux, Firefox, Radeon RX 6400 y Netflix. [SOLUCIONADO]

2024-06-23 Thread JavierDebian
El 23/6/24 a las 10:05, JavierDebian escribió: El 23/6/24 a las 03:54, Camaleón escribió: El 2024-06-22 a las 12:54 -0300, JavierDebian escribió: (...) Si veo Netflix en Firefox 127.0.1 o en 115.12.0esr, a pantalla del navegador, no hay problemas. Si lo pongo en pantalla completa, se

htmldoc default font size

2024-06-23 Thread Roger Price
I'm using htmldoc 1.9.11-4+deb11u3 to convert html files to pdf. When playing with the fontsize option I discover that the default is not a whole number, more like 11.2 points. Is this the expected behaviour ? Background: The manual at https://www.msweet.org/htmldoc/htmldoc.html#3_2_23 says

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-23 Thread Curt
On 2024-06-23, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > I think we are losing sight of the fact that all of timekeeping is an > abstraction and over-generalization. Time zones were created to help > regularize railroad schedules over wide areas. Timezones are an abstraction > that permit us to _pretend_ that

Brother HL-L1210W

2024-06-23 Thread Pierre Meurisse
Bonjour à tous, ma bonne vieille HL 1430 qui m'a servi pendant une vingtaine d'années sur la même cartouche donne des signes de fatigue. Je soupçonne la cartouche d'arriver à sa fin. Comme je doute de pouvoir retrouver la cartouche adéquate, je pense changer pour une Brother HL-L1210W, simple

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-23 Thread gene heskett
On 6/23/24 09:23, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 6/23/24 02:30, gene heskett wrote: A attribute the FCC forced on broadcasters as they like to see transmitter logs kept in 24 hour time. I got so used to it that when I retired in 2002, I'd been on 24 hour time for 40 years and didn't convert back to

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-23 Thread eben
On 6/23/24 02:30, gene heskett wrote: A attribute the FCC forced on broadcasters as they like to see transmitter logs kept in 24 hour time. I got so used to it that when I retired in 2002, I'd been on 24 hour time for 40 years and didn't convert back to two 12 hour periods a day. I started

Re: OT: Linux, Firefox, Radeon RX 6400 y Netflix.

2024-06-23 Thread JavierDebian
El 23/6/24 a las 03:54, Camaleón escribió: El 2024-06-22 a las 12:54 -0300, JavierDebian escribió: (...) Si veo Netflix en Firefox 127.0.1 o en 115.12.0esr, a pantalla del navegador, no hay problemas. Si lo pongo en pantalla completa, se "apaga" la imagen, es decir, muestra el video unos

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-23 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 23:25:43 -0500, David Wright wrote: > creation of Pacific/Kiritimati (+14:00), which became a press > story at the start of the new millennium. > > $ TZ=Pacific/Kiritamati date; TZ=Australia/Eucla date > Sun Jun 23 04:24:54 Pacific 2024 > Sun Jun 23 13:09:54 +0845 2024 > $

FTP SOLUCIONADO / Una humilde recomendación y Vs. cosillas mas sobre FTP

2024-06-23 Thread Eduardo Jorge Gil Michelena
Hola: Lo del FTP está solucionado. Ahora funciona correctamente. AGRADEZCO a Camaleon por el aporte (y "maliciosa" recomendación) y a Fernando Sainz que sugirió la causa. En verdad el problema devino porque se borró el archivo de configuración y allí empezó el problema. Lo que intenté hacer

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-23 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 10:38:29PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 12:37:29PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > Will I outlive Debian 11/12? > > Well we're only talking a small single digit number of years here, > so I hope you have reason to be optimistic. > A

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-23 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 15:35:14 +1000 Keith Bainbridge wrote: Hello Keith, >+14:00?? I've only ever heard of maxima of +/- 12:00. AFAIAC, it was political willy waving, nothing more; To be 'first' into the new millennium. As if that has any cachet whatsoever. -- Regards _ "Valid sig

Re: MoinMoin wikis and Debian 11+

2024-06-23 Thread Richard Hector
On 20/06/24 23:21, Greg Wooledge wrote: As we're nearing the end of life for Debian 10, I'm still wondering what MoinMoin wiki users are supposed to do. (This includes as near as I can see from SystemInfo.) MoinMoin 1.x requires Python2, and Debian 11 and newer don't

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-23 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 13:01:10 +1000 Keith Bainbridge wrote: Hello Keith, >Not to mention some cultures change how words are spelt: colour, odour, >metres to quote a few. Due, mainly, to the literacy of the people that moved, rather than any deliberate choice. That is, spelling was often a

Re: OT: Linux, Firefox, Radeon RX 6400 y Netflix.

2024-06-23 Thread Camaleón
El 2024-06-22 a las 12:54 -0300, JavierDebian escribió: (...) > Si veo Netflix en Firefox 127.0.1 o en 115.12.0esr, a pantalla del > navegador, no hay problemas. > Si lo pongo en pantalla completa, se "apaga" la imagen, es decir, muestra el > video unos 10 segundos, y se pone negra un par de

Re: Servidor FTP (vsftpd) galta el archivo de config.

2024-06-23 Thread fernando sainz
El dom, 23 jun 2024 a las 1:08, Eduardo Jorge Gil Michelena (< egi...@yahoo.com.ar>) escribió: > Por esas cosas de la vida se ha borrado el archivo vsftpd.conf del > servidor vsftpd > No encuentro forma de recuperarlo. > Desinstalé e instalé varias veces y no hay caso. > > Ya sé que debería estar

Re: Servidor FTP (vsftpd) galta el archivo de config.

2024-06-23 Thread Camaleón
El 2024-06-22 a las 21:50 +, Eduardo Jorge Gil Michelena escribió: > Por esas cosas de la vida se ha borrado el archivo vsftpd.conf del servidor > vsftpd > No encuentro forma de recuperarlo. > Desinstalé e instalé varias veces y no hay caso. > > Ya sé que debería estar en /etc/vsftpd pero

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-23 Thread gene heskett
On 6/23/24 01:35, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 23/6/24 14:25, David Wright wrote: On Sun 23 Jun 2024 at 12:52:55 (+1000), Keith Bainbridge wrote: Have you ever pondered why the 'international date line' is so convoluted? Only on the odd occasion when an area decides to cross it, for whatever

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 12:18 AM David Wright wrote: > [...] > Well, that's a mouthful. And what am I to call the time that a system > issues using that system default time zone? The kernel clock counts ticks. The ticks are relative to Epoch, which is UTC. Ticks are what you see in the output of

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 23/6/24 14:25, David Wright wrote: On Sun 23 Jun 2024 at 12:52:55 (+1000), Keith Bainbridge wrote: Have you ever pondered why the 'international date line' is so convoluted? Only on the odd occasion when an area decides to cross it, for whatever reason. Like Samoa recently. And before

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread David Wright
On Sat 22 Jun 2024 at 12:31:41 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 09:52:39 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 21 Jun 2024 at 07:15:32 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > If I boot up two computers > > > > and they display different times, what term is appropriate in your

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread David Wright
On Sat 22 Jun 2024 at 12:26:05 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 09:51:32 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Sat 22 Jun 2024 at 10:02:43 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > set date_format="!It's %a %d%b%Y at %H:%M:%S here, where clocks are > > > UTC%z" > > > I think you

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread David Wright
On Sun 23 Jun 2024 at 12:52:55 (+1000), Keith Bainbridge wrote: > Have you ever pondered why the 'international date line' is so convoluted? Only on the odd occasion when an area decides to cross it, for whatever reason. Like Samoa recently. And before that, the creation of Pacific/Kiritimati

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 23/6/24 00:53, David Wright wrote: Styles change: there's a tendency in English to evolve towards compound words, sometimes with hyphenation along the way. Not to mention some cultures change how words are spelt: colour, odour, metres to quote a few. But don't fret.Some people

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 23/6/24 12:08, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: On Sat, Jun 22, 2024, 11:02 AM Stefan Monnier > wrote: > Yes, I realise that. The times are being displayed by the gettys, > controlled by the /etc/issue format string.  Jobs are being run > by cron,

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 23/6/24 01:16, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Possible. I was happy to forget that I had anything to do with Windows  Especially delving into the registry -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithr...@gmail.com keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons [Solved]

2024-06-22 Thread Max Nikulin
On 23/06/2024 03:16, Pranjal Singh wrote: although not having your data out there is better IMHO Notice that firefox has "Always use private browsing mode" setting exposed to UI.

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Sat, Jun 22, 2024, 11:02 AM Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Yes, I realise that. The times are being displayed by the gettys, > > controlled by the /etc/issue format string. Jobs are being run > > by cron, logs written by rsyslogd, and so on. And the term is … ? > > Maybe there simply isn't such a

Re: Current best practices for system configuration management?

2024-06-22 Thread David Christensen
On 6/22/24 11:33, Dmitrii Odintcov wrote: Hi all, Sorry to resurrect an old-ish thread, but I am facing the exact same task, minus the know-how. Basically I am looking to pre-configure a number of Debian setups - let's say, "server", "laptop" and "PC" - that would contain sets of packages to

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-22 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 12:37:29PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Will I outlive Debian 11/12? Well we're only talking a small single digit number of years here, so I hope you have reason to be optimistic. Thanks, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

Servidor FTP (vsftpd) galta el archivo de config.

2024-06-22 Thread Eduardo Jorge Gil Michelena
Por esas cosas de la vida se ha borrado el archivo vsftpd.conf del servidor vsftpd No encuentro forma de recuperarlo. Desinstalé e instalé varias veces y no hay caso. Ya sé que debería estar en /etc/vsftpd pero NO está. ¿Alguna idea? Gracias.

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 05:18:53PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 10:48 AM Richard Owlett wrote: > > [...] > > Thank you for reminding me of live images just now. Perfect timing. > > I have an i386 machine with some atypical constraints. > > https://www.debian.org/CD/live/

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-22 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 10:48 AM Richard Owlett wrote: > [...] > Thank you for reminding me of live images just now. Perfect timing. > I have an i386 machine with some atypical constraints. > https://www.debian.org/CD/live/ states only amd64 images are currently > available. > > Questions: >

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-22 Thread David Christensen
On 6/22/24 10:37, Richard Owlett wrote: I ask about i386 Debian Live because I have a fine operational Sony laptop that currently runs Debian 9.0 and has a $20 price tag on its bottom. This machine has option to boot Debian 11 with an AMD64 kernel. I routinely run Debian 9.13 because its

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons [Solved]

2024-06-22 Thread Pranjal Singh
Hi Gareth, I have solved it. The solution: *drumroll* Switch from Ubuntu to Bookworm. On 22/06/24 15:33, Gareth Evans wrote: [...] There is no "[-]-private" option according to the grep I performed, and [-]-private produces a non-private window when run here from the command line. Thanks

Re: Current best practices for system configuration management?

2024-06-22 Thread Dmitrii Odintcov
Hi all, Sorry to resurrect an old-ish thread, but I am facing the exact same task, minus the know-how. Basically I am looking to pre-configure a number of Debian setups - let's say, "server", "laptop" and "PC" - that would contain sets of packages to install (or uninstall), configuration files

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-22 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/22/2024 12:13 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: Rather than creating a customized Debian Live image, I install Debian onto a USB flash drive or onto a 2.5" SATA SSD connected via a USB-SATA adapter cable: +1 It's pretty easy to make a simple Debian install on some old USB key you have lying

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-22 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/22/2024 08:55 AM, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 06:43:04AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Questions: 1. What is latest i386 live image available in some archive? 2. I have a working machine that will take a current full install of an i386 system. Can an average

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-22 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Rather than creating a customized Debian Live image, I install Debian onto > a USB flash drive or onto a 2.5" SATA SSD connected via a USB-SATA adapter > cable: +1 It's pretty easy to make a simple Debian install on some old USB key you have lying around and it comes really handy.

Re: OT: Linux, Firefox, Radeon RX 6400 y Netflix.

2024-06-22 Thread Eduardo Jorge Gil Michelena
Bueno... Un poco para que te sirva de consuelo... yo también tengo problemas aleatorios con los streaming... desde que actualice sistema + navegadores. En Opera algunas veces Youtube me tira "Su navegador está desactualizado" (mentira...) en Fifrefox anda bien hasta que empieza a "colgarse" el

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-22 Thread David Christensen
On 6/22/24 04:43, Richard Owlett wrote: Thank you for reminding me of live images just now. Perfect timing. I have an i386 machine with some atypical constraints. https://www.debian.org/CD/live/ states only amd64 images are currently available. Questions:   1. What is latest i386 live image

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 09:52:39 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 21 Jun 2024 at 07:15:32 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > If I boot up two computers > > > and they display different times, what term is appropriate in your > > > opinion to describe the time displayed? > > > > They're out of

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 09:51:32 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 22 Jun 2024 at 10:02:43 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > set date_format="!It's %a %d%b%Y at %H:%M:%S here, where clocks are > > UTC%z" > I think you need to set attribution, not date_format. For example, > set

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Yes, I realise that. The times are being displayed by the gettys, > controlled by the /etc/issue format string. Jobs are being run > by cron, logs written by rsyslogd, and so on. And the term is … ? Maybe there simply isn't such a term. The subject is sufficiently complex/delicate that there

OT: Linux, Firefox, Radeon RX 6400 y Netflix.

2024-06-22 Thread JavierDebian
Buen día. Tema totalmente OT. Tengo un sistema Debian 6.7.12 bookworm. Por primera vez en mi vida, ante un cambio de i7 2014 a un Ryzen 9 2024, he comprado una placa de video; siempre usé las "on-board". Es una Radeon RX 6400. Hasta ahora, anda 99% bien; el 1% mal, es lo que voy a comentar:

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 09:53:47AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 21 Jun 2024 at 06:45:58 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > > I recall a checkbox do disable DST in Windows 95 or Windows 98, so perhaps > > > searching for a timezone without DST was not necessary. > > > > It's a log

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread David Wright
On Sat 22 Jun 2024 at 18:35:34 (+1000), Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On 21/6/24 14:28, David Wright wrote: > > You could pronounce your time written above as: > > > >"It's Thu 20Jun2024 at 20:51:19 here, where clocks are UTC+10:00" > > Excellent. Now how do we get our MUA to do that when

Re: dictd?

2024-06-22 Thread David Wright
On Thu 20 Jun 2024 at 09:04:29 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 20/06/2024 00:31, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 22:15:20 +0500, Stanislav Vlasov wrote: > > > In my system mode bits on my home dir are `drwx--` so only my user > > > have access to it. > > > > Well, yeah.

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread David Wright
On Fri 21 Jun 2024 at 06:45:58 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 09:32:10AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 20/06/2024 11:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > "the system's > > > time zone" (of which some, me included, say "there's no such thing", > > > and others disagree 

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread David Wright
On Fri 21 Jun 2024 at 06:48:14 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 11:17:42PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 20 Jun 2024 at 22:58:53 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 09:32:10 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > > On 20/06/2024 11:52,

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread David Wright
On Fri 21 Jun 2024 at 07:15:32 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 23:17:42 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > And what am I to call the time that a system > > issues using that system default time zone? > > If you mean the current time translated into that time zone, "local time"

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread David Wright
On Sat 22 Jun 2024 at 10:02:43 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 18:35:34 +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > On 21/6/24 14:28, David Wright wrote: > > > You could pronounce your time written above as: > > > > > >"It's Thu 20Jun2024 at 20:51:19 here, where clocks are

Re: time display was: Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread Default User
On Sat, 2024-06-22 at 18:11 +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > On 18/6/24 00:56, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > > On 16/6/24 23:50, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 06:13:36PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge > > > > wrote: > > > > > > It was late

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 18:28:55 +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > And doesn't this exchange show that > Sat 22Jun2024 at 18:27:55 +10:00 > > can be interpreted in two ways? I can only read it one way. What other way are you thinking of?

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 18:35:34 +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > On 21/6/24 14:28, David Wright wrote: > > You could pronounce your time written above as: > > > >"It's Thu 20Jun2024 at 20:51:19 here, where clocks are UTC+10:00" > > Excellent. Now how do we get our MUA to do that when

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-22 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 06:43:04AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Questions: > 1. What is latest i386 live image available in some archive? > 2. I have a working machine that will take a current full install > of an i386 system. Can an average user create his own i386 live >

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-22 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/22/2024 07:39 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: 1. What is latest i386 live image available in some archive? I guess: https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/11.9.0-live/i386/iso-hybrid/ That solves a plethora of problems! Thank you. At least the

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-22 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > 1. What is latest i386 live image available in some archive? I guess: https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/11.9.0-live/i386/iso-hybrid/ At least the pages for archived Live ISOs for Debian 12 list no i386 any more:

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-22 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/21/2024 09:59 PM, Max Nikulin wrote: On 21/06/2024 11:39, David Christensen wrote: On 6/20/24 19:10, Max Nikulin wrote: On 20/06/2024 12:06, David Christensen wrote: You can use the fdisk(8) command to list the partitions on a drive. lsblk --fs perhaps with "-o +SIZE" may be more

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

2024-06-22 Thread Gareth Evans
> On 20 Jun 2024, at 20:52, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 22:56:33 +0530, Pranjal Singh wrote: >>> It runs regular Firefox after adding the -private-window flag. >>> >>> To get a MWE, I made these changes later: >>> - Exec=firefox

Switch user causes screen to go blank

2024-06-22 Thread C.T.F. Jansen
Greetings, When ones does a switch user from the application launch button then the screen goes blank and it stays that way until re-booted. This seems to have been introduced in Debian 12. Looking around there is no fix to this, only work arounds of varying effectiveness. One work around

Re: [HS] eruptions solaires

2024-06-22 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 01:11:48AM +0200, hamster wrote a message of 43 lines which said: > Les scénarios catastrophe avec les éruptions solaires c'est que ca > peut modifier temporairement le champ magnétique terrestre et ainsi > provoquer par induction de forts courants dans le sol et dans

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 21/6/24 14:28, David Wright wrote: You could pronounce your time written above as: "It's Thu 20Jun2024 at 20:51:19 here, where clocks are UTC+10:00" Excellent. Now how do we get our MUA to do that when replying to mail, which is where I saw what I thought was a system error - but in

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 20/6/24 21:19, The Wanderer wrote: On 2024-06-20 at 07:10, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 21:00:38 +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: https://manpages.debian.org/bookworm/manpages-dev/strftime.3.en.html is a list of place names for MANY parts of a date layout. I have set up

Re: RTC, was Re: System time/timezone

2024-06-22 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 20/6/24 11:51, Max Nikulin wrote: On 20/06/2024 02:16, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: Servers in data centers don't move around, they just sit there :-) So in my experience servers running anything non-windows have RTC set to local time. That's been on Red Hat/CentOS, Debian, Ubuntu. My

Re: [HS] eruptions solaires

2024-06-22 Thread Pierre Malard
De toutes façon si ça interfère avec tous les réseaux, comme expliqué par Hamster, Ton disque dur ne sera certainement pas touché directement. Mais si tout ça est connecté à une alimentation électrique et/ou à un réseau cuivre (ADSL) à l’extérieur de ta maison. Il y aura certainement des

Re: time display was: Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 18/6/24 00:56, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 16/6/24 23:50, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 06:13:36PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: It was late afternoon on 16Jun2024 that I wrote this. Possibly 18:13:36 when I pressed send. I'd reckon it

Re: Time, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 18/6/24 03:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: And I can never remember if the dot means AM or PM.  I suspect it changes between implementations, or maybe I'm just very slow. Probably only really meant to show us when we are setting an alarm at night, for the morning, that the dot is on one and off

Re: Time, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 18/6/24 01:36, David Wright wrote: Along with 350M Americans! They even use just A and P over here. And a mere dot on digital clocks. (I see you've changed it already!) I've been using 24 hour time and dMMM for a long time. I used send international cheques as part of my work, and

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-22 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 18/6/24 21:02, Greg Wooledge wrote: In a previous message, you thought that your system clock or your time zone was set wrong, because you read one of the attribution lines of one of my replies, and you thought it said you had sent your message at the wrong time. As it turns out, I'm

Re: [HS] eruptions solaires

2024-06-22 Thread Haricophile
Le Sat, 22 Jun 2024 01:11:48 +0200, hamster a écrit : > Mais les disques durs n'ayant pas des dimentions qui se comptent en > centaines de kilomètres, ils ne seront pas impactés. Merci beaucoup pour l'explication.

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

2024-06-21 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 10:22:53AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: [...] > I think, you are biased treating "system" as tightly built-in while most of > others assume "system-wide". Taking your bias out ("you are biased" -- "most of others") I'd tend to agree :-) You do have a point. Coming from

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