Shahryar Afifi wrote:
> It is natural and normal that any nation would protect its property of
> any kind.
Germany 2015 was obviously an exception to that :D ... and the Germans
elected her once again - OMG, OMG! Consequently it is not a nation anymore,
or it is a nation in a big confusion?!
On Saturday 27 July 2019 13:28:32 John Hasler wrote:
> Stefan writes:
> > My understanding is that export of *source code* is allowed...
>
> Only *published* source code.
>
> > And Free Software squeezes in-between because someone was sane
> > enough to realize that whether `make` is run before
Joe writes:
> It's based on the concept that only Americans can write software: it's
> not a problem for the rest of the world to know how strong encryption
> works, because only Americans are able to write software to do it, and
> they're not allowed to export it.
It's based on the concept that
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:28:32 -0500
John Hasler wrote:
> Stefan writes:
> > My understanding is that export of *source code* is allowed...
>
> Only *published* source code.
>
> > And Free Software squeezes in-between because someone was sane
> > enough to realize that whether `make` is run
Stefan writes:
> My understanding is that export of *source code* is allowed...
Only *published* source code.
> And Free Software squeezes in-between because someone was sane enough
> to realize that whether `make` is run before exporting or after
> exporting doesn't make any difference to the
> It now seems to be established that putting Open Source software up on
> a public server is protected speech. Exporting copies of closed source
> proprietary software, however, is not. This means that Microsoft has to
> avoid knowingly exporting restricted material to certain countries.
My
On Sat 27 Jul 2019 at 08:37:35 (+0200), Dominik George wrote:
> >Export regulations do not apply to Open Source software (Debian is an
> >example).
>
> Source?
Pick your format:
http://www.epic.org/crypto/export_controls/finalregs.pdf
https://epic.org/crypto/export_controls/regs_1_00.html
I wrote:
> Export regulations do not apply to Open Source software (Debian is an
> example).
nik writes:
> Source?
Look in the Debian archive. Strong encryption, on servers in the USA
(some operated by institutions such as MIT), no licenses, nobody in
jail.
I was a Debian developer back when
>Export regulations do not apply to Open Source software (Debian is an
>example).
Source?
-nik
Reco writes:
> ...violating export regulations is perhaps not the best choice.
Export regulations do not apply to Open Source software (Debian is an
example). They do apply to Microsoft's software, though, and Microsoft
may just be applying company policy. They have to be careful because
they
On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 12:10:46PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 07/26/2019 11:24 AM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> > [SNIP]
> >
> > Perhaps there is more that GitHub could do, like locating hosting
> > facilities in other parts of the world and then offering services to the
> > sanctioned
* On 2019 26 Jul 11:09 -0500, Reco wrote:
> I'm not a layer (and probably neither are you), yet I see a loophole
> here already. The "applicable jurisdiction(s)" term.
> Is it local jurisdiction? Is it jurisdiction of the country the user is
> citizen of?
I'm not any sort of legal authority
On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 12:24:27PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> However, as I write the above, it dawns on me that Reco's initial post
> did not offer any alternative service providers or suggestions for
> improving the situation and so the objective might just be to complain
> or to incite
On 07/26/2019 11:24 AM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
[SNIP]
Perhaps there is more that GitHub could do, like locating hosting
facilities in other parts of the world and then offering services to the
sanctioned markets via a mechanism that would not violate US law. I
would encourage anyone who
On 07/26/2019 10:44 AM, Reco wrote:
[grossly *MASSIVE* snip ;]
It may be shocking, but that's the bare truth.
"barren" perhaps.
Owl ducks fer cover ;/
On Friday 26 July 2019 11:39:51 Reco wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 09:12:48AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 03:53:50PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > > So, dear list,
> > >
> > > this is just a quick followup on discrimination practices employed
> > > by GitHub.
> > >
On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 06:08:40PM +0200, Anders Andersson wrote:
>
> You seem to contradict yourself a bit here - at least if you argue for
> GitHub's stance. As you yourself point out, Debian went around the
> law. Because of that, no user was affected even while the law was
> still relevant.
On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 5:56 PM Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 06:39:51PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 09:12:48AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 03:53:50PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > > > So, dear list,
> > > >
> > > > this is
On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 11:56:07AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> > > Certainly there are instances where civil disobedience is called for,
> > > but violating export regulations is perhaps not the best choice.
> >
> > And the same logic can be applied to SPI and therefore Debian Project.
> >
On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 06:39:51PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 09:12:48AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 03:53:50PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > > So, dear list,
> > >
> > > this is just a quick followup on discrimination practices employed by
> > >
On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 02:57:38PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> Reco (12019-07-26):
> > Today it was brought to my attention that GitHub has restricted access
> > to users who live in countries that have US sanctions applied - [1].
>
> You mean that GitHub respects the laws of the country where
Hi.
On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 09:33:10AM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
> On 07/26/2019 08:57 AM, Nicolas George wrote:
> > Reco (12019-07-26):
> > > Today it was brought to my attention that GitHub has restricted access
> > > to users who live in countries that have US sanctions applied -
On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 09:12:48AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 03:53:50PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > So, dear list,
> >
> > this is just a quick followup on discrimination practices employed by
> > GitHub.
> > Today it was brought to my attention that GitHub has
On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 07:09:39AM -0700, Peter Ehlert wrote:
> Intellectual Freedom.
> Not Available in the United States of America (not a new thing)
Wherever you are, superiority complex isn't adequate. There's more
than enough work to do at home if you care for Intellectual Freedom.
There
Intellectual Freedom.
Not Available in the United States of America (not a new thing)
On 7/26/19 5:53 AM, Reco wrote:
So, dear list,
this is just a quick followup on discrimination practices employed by
GitHub.
Today it was brought to my attention that GitHub has restricted access
to
On 07/26/2019 08:57 AM, Nicolas George wrote:
Reco (12019-07-26):
Today it was brought to my attention that GitHub has restricted access
to users who live in countries that have US sanctions applied - [1].
You mean that GitHub respects the laws of the country where it operates?
How
On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 02:57:38PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> Reco (12019-07-26):
> > Today it was brought to my attention that GitHub has restricted access
> > to users who live in countries that have US sanctions applied - [1].
>
> You mean that GitHub respects the laws of the country where
Reco (12019-07-26):
> Today it was brought to my attention that GitHub has restricted access
> to users who live in countries that have US sanctions applied - [1].
You mean that GitHub respects the laws of the country where it operates?
How shocking!
Regards,
--
Nicolas George
> Today it was brought to my attention that GitHub has restricted access
> to users who live in countries that have US sanctions applied - [1].
Shockingly companies often have to obey the laws which apply in the
country in which they are based.
While it is definitely unfortunate for
On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 03:53:50PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> So, dear list,
>
> this is just a quick followup on discrimination practices employed by
> GitHub.
> Today it was brought to my attention that GitHub has restricted access
> to users who live in countries that have US sanctions applied
26, 2019 2:53:50 PM
Subject: A followup on github discussion
So, dear list,
this is just a quick followup on discrimination practices employed by
GitHub.
Today it was brought to my attention that GitHub has restricted access
to users who live in countries that have US sanctions applied - [1].
Th
So, dear list,
this is just a quick followup on discrimination practices employed by
GitHub.
Today it was brought to my attention that GitHub has restricted access
to users who live in countries that have US sanctions applied - [1].
Therefore, if somebody is still had any doubts that
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