On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 07:30:02 +0200
Gene Heskett wrote:
> You may well be correct, but to my grandfather they were loaned. I do
> know that when they left, each was equipt with a good sturdy tag/label
> bareing the owners name & address, well sealed against the elements.
He probably heard the
On Sunday 30 August 2015 14:50:54 David Wright wrote:
> Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com):
> > You may well be correct, but to my grandfather they were loaned. I
> > do know that when they left, each was equipt with a good sturdy
> > tag/label bareing the owners name & address, well sealed
Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com):
> You may well be correct, but to my grandfather they were loaned. I do
> know that when they left, each was equipt with a good sturdy tag/label
> bareing the owners name & address, well sealed against the elements.
>
> I would suspect that the possibi
On Sunday 30 August 2015 00:07:44 David Wright wrote:
This is quite off topic, and I probably should have just STHU.
> Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com):
> > He may have been, but it wasn't enough that he sent our "loaned"
> > guns back when the festivities were over in 1945. Instead, they
Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com):
> He may have been, but it wasn't enough that he sent our "loaned" guns
> back when the festivities were over in 1945. Instead, they were all
> collected on a barge, taken out in the middle of the channel, and
> shoveled overboard.
>
> The hunters amd
On Saturday 29 August 2015 17:35:28 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Saturday 29 August 2015 14:34:40 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Saturday 29 August 2015 06:19:24 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > On Saturday 29 August 2015 03:30:18 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > I watched about half of it, but the eu accent made it pret
Quoting Chris Bannister (cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz):
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:22:58AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > Quoting Ric Moore (wayward4...@gmail.com):
> >
> > > From my own experience, if you replace a network card, udev will
> > > automagically name it /dev/eth +1 so eth0 becomes et
On Saturday 29 August 2015 06:19:24 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Saturday 29 August 2015 03:30:18 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > I watched about half of it, but the eu accent made it pretty hard to
> > understand.
>
> ;-)
>
> Now you know how we feel about American accents. ;-) Especially
> Texan.
>
> Do you
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 11:19:24 +0100
Lisi Reisz wrote:
> And as for Glaswegian
Many years ago my work sent me for several months to Glasgow; for the first
three weeks I could not understand a word of the conversations I could hear
going on around me; then one day it clicked, and I understood
On Saturday 29 August 2015 03:30:18 Gene Heskett wrote:
> I watched about half of it, but the eu accent made it pretty hard to
> understand.
;-)
Now you know how we feel about American accents. ;-) Especially Texan.
Do you find an English accent hard to understand? Most Americans don't. And
On Sat, 2015-08-29 at 00:24 -0700, Matt Ventura wrote:
> On 8/28/2015 11:32 PM, Tixy wrote:
> > On Sat, 2015-08-29 at 10:06 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:22:58AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> >>> Quoting Ric Moore (wayward4...@gmail.com):
> >>>
> From my own exp
On 8/28/2015 11:32 PM, Tixy wrote:
On Sat, 2015-08-29 at 10:06 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:22:58AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
Quoting Ric Moore (wayward4...@gmail.com):
From my own experience, if you replace a network card, udev will
automagically name it /dev/et
On Sat, 2015-08-29 at 10:06 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:22:58AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > Quoting Ric Moore (wayward4...@gmail.com):
> >
> > > From my own experience, if you replace a network card, udev will
> > > automagically name it /dev/eth +1 so eth0 become
On 08/28/2015 09:50 PM, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 09:44:03PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Friday 28 August 2015 21:38:12 Chris Bannister wrote:
http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2015/debconf15/
systemd_How_we_survived_jessie_and_how_we_will_break_stret
On Friday 28 August 2015 21:50:44 Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 09:44:03PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Friday 28 August 2015 21:38:12 Chris Bannister wrote:
> > > http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2015/debcon
> > >f15/
> > > systemd_How_we_survived_jes
On Friday 28 August 2015 21:50:44 Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 09:44:03PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Friday 28 August 2015 21:38:12 Chris Bannister wrote:
> > > http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2015/debcon
> > >f15/
> > > systemd_How_we_survived_jes
On Friday 28 August 2015 21:50:44 Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 09:44:03PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Friday 28 August 2015 21:38:12 Chris Bannister wrote:
> > > http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2015/debcon
> > >f15/
> > > systemd_How_we_survived_jes
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 09:44:03PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 28 August 2015 21:38:12 Chris Bannister wrote:
> > http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2015/debconf15/
> >systemd_How_we_survived_jessie_and_how_we_will_break_stretch.webm
> >
> > In fact, there's a few int
On Friday 28 August 2015 21:38:12 Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 09:02:54PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Friday 28 August 2015 13:48:49 Ric Moore wrote:
> > > On 08/28/2015 12:57 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > But why should I be punished because I use static addresss
> > >
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 09:02:54PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 28 August 2015 13:48:49 Ric Moore wrote:
>
> > On 08/28/2015 12:57 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > But why should I be punished because I use static addresss defined
> > > in the hosts file?
> >
> > Because that was the OLD wa
On Friday 28 August 2015 13:48:49 Ric Moore wrote:
> On 08/28/2015 12:57 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > But why should I be punished because I use static addresss defined
> > in the hosts file?
>
> Because that was the OLD way to doit. We can't have old no more. I DO
> have this dim weak hope that sy
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:22:58AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> Quoting Ric Moore (wayward4...@gmail.com):
>
> > From my own experience, if you replace a network card, udev will
> > automagically name it /dev/eth +1 so eth0 becomes eth1. I'm using
> > eth1 right now. Bugs the hell out of me but th
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 01:39:48PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Thursday 27 August 2015 19:01:32 Chris Bannister wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:58:03PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> > > Le nonidi 9 fructidor, an CCXXIII, Renaud OLGIATI a écrit :
> > > > An added advantage is that on the da
On Friday 28 August 2015 17:57:22 Gene Heskett wrote:
> But why should I be punished because I use static addresss defined in the
> hosts file?
They are not going to change the old system when Wheezy is already Old Stable.
Someone some time must have thought that it was a good idea.
I use static
Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com):
> I have assumed that dhcpd can probably deal with it if running
> network-mangler. But I am staticly addressed, and N-M is the first
> thing I excise after a new install.
>
> Maybe even wicd can but I haven't used it recently either as its not part
>
On 08/28/2015 12:57 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
But why should I be punished because I use static addresss defined in the
hosts file?
Because that was the OLD way to doit. We can't have old no more. I DO
have this dim weak hope that systemd will blow NM out of the water
finally and replace it al
On Friday 28 August 2015 12:02:01 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Friday 28 August 2015 16:57:47 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Yes, its a certified PITA and needs fixed by debian or the
> > maintainer.
>
> It has become a Monty Python parrot - in other words a dead one. See
> the beginning of this thread.
>
> L
On Friday 28 August 2015 16:57:47 Gene Heskett wrote:
> Yes, its a certified PITA and needs fixed by debian or the
> maintainer.
It has become a Monty Python parrot - in other words a dead one. See the
beginning of this thread.
Lisi
On Friday 28 August 2015 10:32:15 Ric Moore wrote:
> On 08/28/2015 08:39 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Thursday 27 August 2015 19:01:32 Chris Bannister wrote:
> >> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:58:03PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> >>> Le nonidi 9 fructidor, an CCXXIII, Renaud OLGIATI a écrit :
> >>>
On 08/28/2015 11:22 AM, David Wright wrote:
Quoting Ric Moore (wayward4...@gmail.com):
From my own experience, if you replace a network card, udev will
automagically name it /dev/eth +1 so eth0 becomes eth1. I'm using
eth1 right now. Bugs the hell out of me but the network works, :)
That's b
Quoting Ric Moore (wayward4...@gmail.com):
> From my own experience, if you replace a network card, udev will
> automagically name it /dev/eth +1 so eth0 becomes eth1. I'm using
> eth1 right now. Bugs the hell out of me but the network works, :)
That's because you didn't clear the previous card's
On 08/28/2015 08:39 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Thursday 27 August 2015 19:01:32 Chris Bannister wrote:
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:58:03PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
Le nonidi 9 fructidor, an CCXXIII, Renaud OLGIATI a écrit :
An added advantage is that on the day you replace your Ethernet NIC
b
On Friday 28 August 2015 08:37:41 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Thursday 27 August 2015 02:14:00 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > But I have had exactly zero
> > equipment failures in the ensuing decade & change that I could
> > attribute to that.
>
> I have had no equipment failures _ever_ ( throw salt over my l
On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 13:37:41 +0100
Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > But I have had exactly zero
> > equipment failures in the ensuing decade & change that I could attribute
> > to that.
> I have had no equipment failures _ever_ ( over my left shoulder>) from lightning or thunderstorms. Nor equipment
>
Lisi writes:
> I have had no equipment failures _ever_ ( throw salt over my left shoulder>) from lightning or thunderstorms.
> Nor equipment damage from a hurricane. I have no special precautions.
For many years I had frequent lightning-induced equipment failures
despite having taken all the abov
On Thursday 27 August 2015 19:01:32 Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:58:03PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> > Le nonidi 9 fructidor, an CCXXIII, Renaud OLGIATI a écrit :
> > > An added advantage is that on the day you replace your Ethernet NIC
> > > because it was fried by lightn
On Thursday 27 August 2015 02:14:00 Gene Heskett wrote:
> But I have had exactly zero
> equipment failures in the ensuing decade & change that I could attribute
> to that.
I have had no equipment failures _ever_ () from lightning or thunderstorms. Nor equipment
damage from a hurricane. I have n
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:58:03PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> Le nonidi 9 fructidor, an CCXXIII, Renaud OLGIATI a écrit :
> > An added advantage is that on the day you replace your Ethernet NIC
> > because it was fried by lightning, and put a new one in its stead, your
> > network config will
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 22:09:52 -0400
Gene Heskett wrote:
> Does Paraguay not have the equivalent of our National Electrical Code,
> commonly called the NEC?
>
> Here in the US, its considered the Bible on how to do electricity safely
> and legally in those government areas that require it.
No;
> This change gives nothing more than before. Unless it names the
> interfaces in a way that you understand from the NIC name that it's
> the one corresponding to leftmost plug on the second row on the rear
> of the box, this naming adds NOTHING except the need to edit legacy
> scripts.
>
> At le
Eike Lantzsch writes:
> must not try to steer". But I'd say that in this case the change of an
> interface name from one release to the other is at worst a slight
> inconvenience which I easily accept for the better big picture of predictable
Even when I had to use machine with multiple inter
On Wednesday 26 August 2015 21:22:04 Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 21:14:00 -0400
>
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Electricity is not magic, it has rules & regulations intended to
> > tame it. Here, it works nice.
>
> I live in a country where the only rule applying to electricity is:
>
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 21:14:00 -0400
Gene Heskett wrote:
> Electricity is not magic, it has rules & regulations intended to tame it.
> Here, it works nice.
I live in a country where the only rule applying to electricity is:
"Pay the bill every month."
Cheers,
Ron.
--
The sing
On Wednesday 26 August 2015 20:04:50 Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 19:23:51 -0400
>
> Eike Lantzsch wrote:
> > I hope that Renaud has enough
> > humour to find it funny too, especially since he lives in a town in
> > which getting THE new NIC which is supported by his OS of choice
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 19:23:51 -0400
Eike Lantzsch wrote:
> I hope that Renaud has enough
> humour to find it funny too, especially since he lives in a town in which
> getting THE new NIC which is supported by his OS of choice is sometimes a wee
> bit difficult.
Coincidence, we just had a thun
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 12:06:24AM +0200, Christian Seiler wrote:
>
> I remember that 14 years ago a certain CEO called Linux a cancer - and
> that the free software community was up in arms about his comment,
> justifiably so.
It wasn't the CEO of Microsoft was it? If so he reckon he had a dammn
On Wednesday 26 August 2015 23:58:03 Nicolas George wrote:
> Le nonidi 9 fructidor, an CCXXIII, Renaud OLGIATI a écrit :
> > An added advantage is that on the day you replace your Ethernet NIC
> > because it was fried by lightning, and put a new one in its stead, your
> > network config will be bug
On 08/26/2015 10:24 PM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
> I will, as soon as I have decided which of the distributions likely to remain
> un-infected by the coming pox of systemd suits me best; until then I will
> stay
> with Wheezy.
Could you please not use this kind of language ("un-infected by t
Le nonidi 9 fructidor, an CCXXIII, Renaud OLGIATI a écrit :
> An added advantage is that on the day you replace your Ethernet NIC
> because it was fried by lightning, and put a new one in its stead, your
> network config will be buggered as the system will givethe new NICt
> a name different fro
Quoting Renaud OLGIATI (ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org):
> On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 16:28:05 -0400
> Gary Dale wrote:
>
> > > I've just done a fresh minimal install of Debian Stretch, and noticed
> > > something odd. In ifconfig and iwconfig, all of my adapters have weird
> > > names, like "ens2" inst
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 16:28:05 -0400
Gary Dale wrote:
> > I've just done a fresh minimal install of Debian Stretch, and noticed
> > something odd. In ifconfig and iwconfig, all of my adapters have weird
> > names, like "ens2" instead of "eth0".
> > Can anyone tell me why this is? I tried to look i
On 26/08/15 12:47 PM, Tim Tepatti wrote:
Hi all,
I've just done a fresh minimal install of Debian Stretch, and noticed
something odd. In ifconfig and iwconfig, all of my adapters have weird
names, like "ens2" instead of "eth0".
Can anyone tell me why this is? I tried to look it up online but
co
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 19:56:36 +0100
Brian wrote:
> > Of course the only freedom remains and cannot be taken away, to drop
> > Debian, and move to another distribution...
> Take it.
I will, as soon as I have decided which of the distributions likely to remain
un-infected by the coming pox of
Hi,
On 08/26/2015 06:47 PM, Tim Tepatti wrote:
> I've just done a fresh minimal install of Debian Stretch, and noticed
> something odd. In ifconfig and iwconfig, all of my adapters have weird
> names, like "ens2" instead of "eth0".
>
> Can anyone tell me why this is? I tried to look it up online
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:47:26 -0400
Tim Tepatti wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I've just done a fresh minimal install of Debian Stretch, and noticed
>something odd. In ifconfig and iwconfig, all of my adapters have weird
>names, like "ens2" instead of "eth0".
>
>Can anyone tell me why this is? I tried to look
On Wed 26 Aug 2015 at 13:16:41 -0400, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 13:01:07 -0400
> Eike Lantzsch wrote:
>
> > > I've just done a fresh minimal install of Debian Stretch, and noticed
> > > something odd. In ifconfig and iwconfig, all of my adapters have weird
> > > names, like "en
Quoting Renaud OLGIATI (ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org):
> On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 13:01:07 -0400
> Eike Lantzsch wrote:
>
> > > I've just done a fresh minimal install of Debian Stretch, and noticed
> > > something odd. In ifconfig and iwconfig, all of my adapters have weird
> > > names, like "ens2"
On Wednesday 26 August 2015 13:16:41 Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 13:01:07 -0400
>
> Eike Lantzsch wrote:
> > > I've just done a fresh minimal install of Debian Stretch, and noticed
> > > something odd. In ifconfig and iwconfig, all of my adapters have weird
> > > names, like "ens2
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 13:01:07 -0400
Eike Lantzsch wrote:
> > I've just done a fresh minimal install of Debian Stretch, and noticed
> > something odd. In ifconfig and iwconfig, all of my adapters have weird
> > names, like "ens2" instead of "eth0".
> >
> > Can anyone tell me why this is?
> Yes
>
On Wednesday 26 August 2015 12:47:26 Tim Tepatti wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've just done a fresh minimal install of Debian Stretch, and noticed
> something odd. In ifconfig and iwconfig, all of my adapters have weird
> names, like "ens2" instead of "eth0".
>
> Can anyone tell me why this is?
Yes
http
Hi all,
I've just done a fresh minimal install of Debian Stretch, and noticed
something odd. In ifconfig and iwconfig, all of my adapters have weird
names, like "ens2" instead of "eth0".
Can anyone tell me why this is? I tried to look it up online but
couldn't find anyone else with the same issue
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