Re: An open letter to the debian community

1999-12-08 Thread Oki DZ
David Blackman wrote: I love Debian, I use Debian, I administer Debian at my school. Why do I use Debian? Because my school uses it. Why does my school use it? Because they didn't like the GUIness of RedHat, and Slackware is just too much of a hassle. Plus, they were drawn to

Re: An open letter to the debian community

1999-12-08 Thread Oki DZ
David Blackman wrote: I love Debian, I use Debian, I administer Debian at my school. Why do I use Debian? Because my school uses it. Why does my school use it? Because they didn't like the GUIness of RedHat, and Slackware is just too much of a hassle. Plus, they were drawn to

Re: An open letter to the debian community

1999-12-08 Thread Jillian-Beth Stamos-Kaschke
[lots of stuff snipped] I haven't visited www.linuxchix.com lately; I'm just wondering whether any of them runs Debian. As far as I know, there are plenty of Linuxchix members around that use Debian, myself included. I first started using Linux in 1995, mucked around with a couple of

Re: An open letter to the debian community

1999-12-07 Thread Michael Steiner
Hi! Just some comments after reading the first posting and others. My english is not perfect, nor I reply exactly to this thread. I like Debian/Linux as it is. It is a wonderfull distribution allowing me to get every time when I want an update via Internet. (And not when others think I should

Re: An open letter to the debian community

1999-12-07 Thread virtanen
On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, Godric wrote: Am I alone in believing the battle is between empowerment and profit? Not at all alone I think that there are amny, who agree with you. For me as well empowerment is the main issue. Between an interactive computer operating system, and a basically

Re: An open letter to the debian community

1999-12-06 Thread aphro
On Sun, 5 Dec 1999, David Blackman wrote: david Slackware is just too much of a hassle. Plus, they were drawn to apt-get. i was drawn to debian about a year and a half ago, never touched apt-get till about 2 weeks ago! doh heheh david No it's not. i like the idea of that, with debian's

Re: An open letter to the debian community

1999-12-06 Thread J C Lawrence
On Mon, 06 Dec 1999 08:51:31 +1100 Frank Copeland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Blackman wrote: Lately I've been thinking about forking Debian, into DWA, meaning Debian Without Attitude. We'll drop the attitude, and the pretenses, about what Free means, and get licensing deals with Corel,

Re: An open letter to the debian community

1999-12-06 Thread Brad
On Sun, Dec 05, 1999 at 04:11:03PM -0500, David Blackman wrote: Debian is a wonderful development model. Anyone can contribute to it. Remember this statement ;) And everything must be Free Software, Free Software in the sense that it must be both open source, and modifiable. Open

Re: An open letter to the debian community

1999-12-06 Thread J C Lawrence
On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 16:53:41 -0800 (PST) George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 5 Dec 1999, J C Lawrence wrote: There are a great many people for whom the only particular value Debian brings to the table is apt-get and friends. They have no interest in religion, no interest or

Re: An open letter to the debian community

1999-12-06 Thread Godric
George Bonser wrote: The computer is a tool. People often use it to get real work done with real deadlines. Real money depends on this work. Debian offers the best ENVORONMENT, so far, for maintaining and supporting software for Linux in the enterprise. Not so cut-and dried. Debian offers

Re: An open letter to the debian community

1999-12-06 Thread Godric
George Bonser wrote: Embracing commercial software at first is the path to eventually winning. Let the commercial vendors in ... let them penetrate deep into linux. Then surround and destory them with free alternatives once you have them committed to your platform or convince them of the

Re: An open letter to the debian community

1999-12-06 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya george/et.al i think that debian might or might not suffer the same fate as all the other linux's - being absorbed into a commercial company or not ... ( at least the major players will be... - linux could also become the shareware/freeware compared to old world of

Re: An open letter to the debian community

1999-12-06 Thread Randy Edwards
the big battles and then mop up the little ones later. Get Linux on every webserver first ... then worry about the applications and pick them off one-by-one. I think the same logic can be used to point to the need of getting Linux to the desktop. Until serious headway is made on the

An open letter to the debian community

1999-12-05 Thread David Blackman
I love Debian, I use Debian, I administer Debian at my school. Why do I use Debian? Because my school uses it. Why does my school use it? Because they didn't like the GUIness of RedHat, and Slackware is just too much of a hassle. Plus, they were drawn to apt-get. Debian is a

Re: An open letter to the debian community

1999-12-05 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, 5 Dec 1999, David Blackman wrote: [ snip uninformed ranting ] : I'm going to get flamed for this. I know it. We don't want to : think we're techno-snobs. We want to think our distribution is : superior. We want to leave out KDE. We don't want Joe Blow to start : with Debian, if

Re: An open letter to the debian community

1999-12-05 Thread Herbert Ho
I think you bring up many problems and issues that debian has. but i don't think any of these issues haven't been the issue of a flame war sometime or another. debian is based upon the ideal that free software should be available without sticky licensing issues so that you could do just what

Re: An open letter to the debian community

1999-12-05 Thread Frank Copeland
David Blackman wrote: Lately I've been thinking about forking Debian, into DWA, meaning Debian Without Attitude. We'll drop the attitude, and the pretenses, about what Free means, and get licensing deals with Corel, Netscape, and Sun, to include Wordperfect, Communicator, and Staroffice.

Re: An open letter to the debian community

1999-12-05 Thread Ed Cogburn
David Blackman wrote: Lately I've been thinking about forking Debian, into DWA, meaning Debian Without Attitude. We'll drop the attitude, and the pretenses, about what Free means, and get licensing deals with Corel, Netscape, and Sun, to include Wordperfect, Communicator, and Staroffice.