Re: Apt should be called inapt (rhymes with inept)

2000-10-18 Thread mike
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:13:21 -0700, Joe Emenaker said: On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Joe Emenaker wrote: and a couple of others. In other words, upon reboot, there was no network connectivity and no way to GET network connectivity without bringing in netbase and it's dependencies via

long fsck [was Re: Apt should be called inapt (rhymes with inept)]

2000-10-18 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 01:05:56AM +0100, Jeff Green wrote: Try remote rebooting a server with a 120Gig Raid array and 1GB Ram takes several hours to come up if wants an fsck! Not if you're using reiserfs or some other journalling filesystem on the RAID array! What does this have to do with

Re: long fsck [was Re: Apt should be called inapt (rhymes with inept)]

2000-10-18 Thread Jeff Green
Nothing, I apologise. Nathan E Norman wrote: What does this have to do with the original topic anyway?

Apt should be called inapt (rhymes with inept)

2000-10-17 Thread Joe Emenaker
I tried to install a package using apt-get yesterday. It complained about dependencies for some stuff. It suggested that I use "apt-get -f install {packagename}". So I did It downloaded a bundle of packages, whizzed through the configurations for them in no time at all. Everything

Re: Apt should be called inapt (rhymes with inept)

2000-10-17 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Joe Emenaker wrote: It seems that apt-get decided to UNINSTALL: o netkit-inetd o ipchains o netbase and a couple of others. In other words, upon reboot, there was no network connectivity and no way to GET network connectivity without bringing in netbase and

Re: Apt should be called inapt (rhymes with inept)

2000-10-17 Thread Jeff Green
Surely a quick trip to /var/cache/apt/archives and a run of dpkg -i with the right package names would have fixed this, if apt-get doesn't install without some extra fiddling this is usually a message to you. Make damn sure you know what it is doing, especially if you, like me are several thousand

Re: Apt should be called inapt (rhymes with inept)

2000-10-17 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Jeff Green wrote: Surely a quick trip to /var/cache/apt/archives and a run of dpkg -i with the right package names would have fixed this, if apt-get doesn't apt-get install with the right package names would have also fixed it, and told you when you finally got the right

Re: Apt should be called inapt (rhymes with inept)

2000-10-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
another reason why you shouldnt reboot a box from remote :) when one of my servers needs a reboot i always make sure someone is nearby incase something goes bad. for the same reason i refuse to attempt a slink-potato upgrade from remote, too risky. of course i also pray whenever rebooting a

Re: Apt should be called inapt (rhymes with inept)

2000-10-17 Thread Jeff Green
Try remote rebooting a server with a 120Gig Raid array and 1GB Ram takes several hours to come up if wants an fsck! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: another reason why you shouldnt reboot a box from remote :) when one of my servers needs a reboot i always make sure someone is nearby incase something

Re: Apt should be called inapt (rhymes with inept)

2000-10-17 Thread Joe Emenaker
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Joe Emenaker wrote: and a couple of others. In other words, upon reboot, there was no network connectivity and no way to GET network connectivity without bringing in netbase and it's dependencies via floppy disk. So uh, why did you let it? I presume this would have

Re: Apt should be called inapt (rhymes with inept)

2000-10-17 Thread Brent Buchholz
Just out of curiosity; what did you install that conflicted with netbase and friends? Brent

Re: Apt should be called inapt (rhymes with inept)

2000-10-17 Thread Joe Emenaker
Just out of curiosity; what did you install that conflicted with netbase and friends? I was upgrading mysql-server, of all things. Granted, this was on a system that hadn't been refreshed in about 3 months or so, so there were about 100 packages that dselect wanted to bring up-to-date.

Re: Apt should be called inapt (rhymes with inept)

2000-10-17 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Joe Emenaker wrote: It seems so basic. When you say apt-get install ... the plan is clearly the addition of software to the system. Removal is patently not part of the plan, unless explicitly acknowledged by the user. If apt executed removals you were prompted and you

Re: Apt should be called inapt (rhymes with inept)

2000-10-17 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 05:13:21PM -0700, Joe Emenaker wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Joe Emenaker wrote: So uh, why did you let it? I presume this would have been your response if I had reported that 'vi' had deleted my kernel images, too? :) Why did I let it?!?! Because I was never asked.