[How about being a bit more proactive with the trimming, guys.]
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 02:19:13PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Take windows, and say honestly that it does not contains
applications? explorer, mspaint, calc, msconfig, notepad, etc. Those
are applications,
Em 17.10.2013, quinta, Luiz L. Marins disse:
Uso aptitude apenas para localizar os arquivos, pois ele informa se
está instalado, e o apt-get não. Fora isto, só apt-get mesmo .. o
aptitude mexe demais em coisas que não queremos que mexa, pois se
desinstalarmos algo, ele quer instalar novamente
Além da interface e comandos mais simplificados, e ter sido desenvolvido
como o sucessor do apt, o aptitude tem alguns aspectos já inclusos, como
remover dependências ao remover um pacote, ou seja não fica pacotes órfãos.
Com o apt há um parâmetro que faz a mesma coisa, mas tem que usá-lo toda
vez
|aptitude|syntax
|apt-get|/|apt-cache|syntax
description
|aptitude update|
|apt-get update|
update package archive metadata
|aptitude install foo|
|apt-get install foo|
install candidate version of |foo| package with its
Um outro ponto interessante do aptitude é que ele parece ser
necessário para usar o tasksel - que permite instalar todos os pacotes
necessários para um determinado perfil de uso (LAMP-server, mail-server,
xubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server etc).
On 18-10-2013 09:01, d4n1 wrote:
Além da
Ao usar o aptitude apenas considere em desligar as recomendações, pois
nesse assunto, ele diverge muito do apt.
Dependendo do caso ao remover ou instalar um programa com o aptitude, vai
muito mais coisa do que o apt faria.
Pode usar os dois simultaneamente, mas tem que saber que ambos usam
No Synaptic tem algo sobre remover e remover completamente. Talvez
tenha algo ou tudo a ver. Pelo seu comentário, o aptitude é o remover
completamente, não precisando fazer o seguinte comando após removê-lo:
$ sudo apt-get autoremove
Desculpa se foi equívoco.
Att.
Ao usar o aptitude apenas
2013/10/18 hamacker sirhamac...@gmail.com:
Ôlas hamacker, Comunidade.
Ao usar o aptitude apenas considere em desligar as recomendações, pois nesse
assunto, ele diverge muito do apt.
Não mais. O apt-get agora instala recommends by on:
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch
On Thu, 2013-10-17 at 13:01 -0300, Shutdown -h now wrote:
Caros,
Há um tempo atrás ouvi dizer que a família de utilitários apt vai dar lugar
exclusivamente ao aptitude no futuro.
Verdade ou mentira, resolvi estudar e comecei a usar o aptitude, até então
inédito pra mim. Consigo realizar
dar
lugar
exclusivamente ao aptitude no futuro.
Verdade ou mentira, resolvi estudar e comecei a usar o aptitude, até
então
inédito pra mim. Consigo realizar as mesmas operações que fazia quando
com
apt-get, e sem dificuldades.
A exceção ocorre quando eu rodo 'aptitude search'. O que
.
Att.
On Thu, 2013-10-17 at 13:01 -0300, Shutdown -h now wrote:
Caros,
Há um tempo atrás ouvi dizer que a família de utilitários apt vai dar
lugar
exclusivamente ao aptitude no futuro.
Verdade ou mentira, resolvi estudar e comecei a usar o aptitude, até
então
inédito pra mim. Consigo realizar
On 18 Oct 2013, at 05:51, Joe Pfeiffer pfeif...@cs.nmsu.edu wrote:
What's wrong with htonl and other similar functions/macroes?
They are pretty good when they fit what you want to do, but there are holes: eg
convert big endian source to host layout. Note that the glibc implementation
uses
Le 18.10.2013 04:32, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
So, what you name an OS is only drivers+kernel? If so, then ok.
But some people consider that it includes various other tools which
does not require hardware accesses. I spoke about graphical
applications,
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2013 04:32, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
So, what you name an OS is only drivers+kernel? If so, then ok.
But some people consider that it includes various other tools
which does not require hardware accesses.
On 10/17/2013 11:37 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 16.10.2013 17:56, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
You're the one who said programmers need to know a lot of details
about the hardware being used, not me. The more you need to know
about different hardware, the harder it is to write code
On 10/17/2013 12:42 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 16.10.2013 17:51, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
I only know few people who actually likes them :)
I liked them too, at a time, but since I can now use standard smart
pointers in C++, I tend to avoid them. I had so much troubles with
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/17/2013 11:37 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 16.10.2013 17:56, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
You're the one who said programmers need to know a lot of details
about the hardware being used, not me. The more you need to know
about different hardware, the
On 10/17/2013 3:57 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
snip
Do you know how the SQL database you're using works?
Sure do. Don't you?
I know how the interface works. Actually, I do know quite a bit about
the internals of how it works. But do you know how it
On 10/17/2013 8:31 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 17.10.2013 21:57, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 16.10.2013 17:51, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
I only know few people who actually likes them :)
I liked them too, at a time, but since I can now use
Le 18.10.2013 16:22, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
But now, are most programmers paid by societies with hundreds of
programmers?
(and whether you actually mean developer vs. programmer)
I do not see the difference between those words. Could you give me
the nuances please? I still have a lot to
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/17/2013 3:57 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
snip
Do you know how the SQL database you're using works?
Sure do. Don't you?
I know how the interface works. Actually, I do know quite a bit about
the internals of how it works.
Le 18.10.2013 17:54, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/17/2013 8:31 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 17.10.2013 21:57, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 16.10.2013 17:51, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
I only know few people who actually likes them :)
I liked
On 10/17/2013 10:32 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
So, what you name an OS is only drivers+kernel? If so, then ok. But
some people consider that it includes various other tools which does
not require hardware accesses. I spoke about graphical applications,
Le 18.10.2013 17:50, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
And, again, just a guess, but I'm guessing the huge percentage of
programmers these days are writing .NET code on vanilla Windows
machines
(not that I like it, but it does seem to be a fact of life). A lot
of
people also seem to be writing stored
On 10/18/2013 12:11 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/17/2013 3:57 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
snip
Do you know how the SQL database you're using works?
Sure do. Don't you?
I know how the interface works. Actually, I do know quite
Le 18.10.2013 17:22, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/17/2013 12:42 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 16.10.2013 17:51, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
I only know few people who actually likes them :)
I liked them too, at a time, but since I can now use standard
smart
pointers in C++, I tend
On 10/18/2013 1:10 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2013 17:22, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/17/2013 12:42 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 16.10.2013 17:51, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
I only know few people who actually likes them :)
I liked them too, at a time, but
On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 14:36:13 +0200
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2013 04:32, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
I'm pretty sure that C was NOT written to build operating systems -
though it's been used for that (notably Unix).
I never said I agreed that C was designed to build OS
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/18/2013 11:48 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
In the REAL world, program behavior is very much driven by the
properties of underlying hardware.
And... when actually packaging code for compilation and/or installation
- you need to know a lot about what
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2013 16:22, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
(though it's pretty hard to get hired for anything in the US
without a bachelorate in something)
I do not think it can be worse than in France.
Ok. I wasn't sure about that, though France does seem as
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/17/2013 10:32 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
So, what you name an OS is only drivers+kernel? If so, then ok. But
some people consider that it includes various other tools which does
not require hardware accesses. I spoke about
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2013 17:50, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
And, again, just a guess, but I'm guessing the huge percentage of
programmers these days are writing .NET code on vanilla Windows
machines
(not that I like it, but it does seem to be a fact of life). A lot of
On 10/18/2013 6:11 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/18/2013 11:48 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
In the REAL world, program behavior is very much driven by the
properties of underlying hardware.
And... when actually packaging code for compilation and/or
On 10/18/2013 7:24 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
snip
I'd simply make the observation that most SQL queries are generated on
the fly, by code - so the notion of building SQL requests to experts
is a non-starter. Someone has to write the code that in turn generates
SQL
On 10/18/2013 7:33 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2013 17:50, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
And, again, just a guess, but I'm guessing the huge percentage of
programmers these days are writing .NET code on vanilla Windows
machines
(not that I like it, but it
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/18/2013 6:11 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/18/2013 11:48 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
In the REAL world, program behavior is very much driven by the
properties of underlying hardware.
And... when actually packaging code for
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/18/2013 7:24 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
snip
I'd simply make the observation that most SQL queries are generated on
the fly, by code - so the notion of building SQL requests to experts
is a non-starter. Someone has to write the code that in
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/18/2013 7:33 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2013 17:50, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
And, again, just a guess, but I'm guessing the huge percentage of
programmers these days are writing .NET code on vanilla Windows
machines
(not
On 10/18/2013 11:00 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/18/2013 6:11 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/18/2013 11:48 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
In the REAL world, program behavior is very much driven by the
properties of underlying
On 10/18/2013 11:02 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/18/2013 7:24 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
snip
I'd simply make the observation that most SQL queries are generated on
the fly, by code - so the notion of building SQL requests to experts
is a
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/18/2013 11:00 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/18/2013 6:11 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/18/2013 11:48 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
In the REAL world, program behavior is very much driven by the
Caros,
Há um tempo atrás ouvi dizer que a família de utilitários apt vai dar lugar
exclusivamente ao aptitude no futuro.
Verdade ou mentira, resolvi estudar e comecei a usar o aptitude, até então
inédito pra mim. Consigo realizar as mesmas operações que fazia quando com
apt-get, e sem
Oi,
Em 17 de outubro de 2013 13:01, Shutdown -h now sh11td...@gmail.comescreveu:
Caros,
Há um tempo atrás ouvi dizer que a família de utilitários apt vai dar
lugar exclusivamente ao aptitude no futuro.
Verdade ou mentira, resolvi estudar e comecei a usar o aptitude, até então
inédito pra
Amigo,
'aptitude show pacote' apenas mostra em detalhes um pacote específico, que
dá o mesmo resultado de 'apt-cache search pacote'
A minha dúvida é com 'aptitude search' e 'apt-cache search'
Abraços
Em 17 de outubro de 2013 13:17, Gunther Furtado gunfurt...@gmail.comescreveu:
Oi,
Em 17
geralmente vc vê muito tutorial com apt-get... em
fim... a coisa que me fez parar é que essa briga entre os dois
gerenciadores é que nem a do vim versus emacs... é questão de gosto...
boatos falam que aptitude seria uma evolução do apt-get... mas o
pessoal que é fiel a ele o mantém na ativa até hj... em
O apt-cache busca o termo no nome do pacote e dentro do 'description'. O
aptitude só no nome.
Se vc buscar por dstat, o aptitude localizará pacotes que tenham 'dstat' no
nome ao passo que o apt-cache encontrará os mesmos pacotes + aqueles que
possuam 'dstat' no description.
--
Wiliam Freitas
Acho que um bom começo é ler o link [1] ele fala sobre gerenciamento de
pacotes com apt e aptitude e faz
um comparativo entre as duas ferramentas.
[1]
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_basic_package_management_operations
Leandro Henrique Stein
Analista de
Caros,
As respostas de todos foram muito proveitosas.
Obrigado e Abraços
Em 17 de outubro de 2013 14:07, Leandro Henrique Stein
leandro.h.st...@gmail.com escreveu:
Acho que um bom começo é ler o link [1] ele fala sobre gerenciamento de
pacotes com apt e aptitude e faz
um comparativo entre
o aptitude search é extremamente poderoso, mas a sintaxe é meio pesada.
RTFM: http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03.html
logo aqui
http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s01.html
já fala dos parâmetros ?name e ?description, que acho
Comumente dizem que o aptitude veio para substituir o apt-get, que este
último é inferior; mas no último guia de dist upgrade do debian é
recomendado utilizar apt-get. Alguém sabe explicar?
Att,
Tobias
http://gnu.eti.br
-BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-
Version: 3.12
GCS/CM/G/H/IT/L/SS d?(--) s
The upgrade process for some previous releases recommended the use of *
aptitude* for the upgrade. This tool is not recommended for upgrades from
squeeze to wheezy.
[0]
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#upgrading-full
Att,
Tobias
http://gnu.eti.br
Uso aptitude apenas para localizar os arquivos, pois ele informa se está
instalado, e o apt-get não. Fora isto, só apt-get mesmo .. o aptitude
mexe demais em coisas que não queremos que mexa, pois se desinstalarmos
algo, ele quer instalar novamente; é um terror.
Em 17-10-2013 19:52, Tobias
Le 16.10.2013 16:42, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 16.10.2013 13:04, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
Anybody who thinks that being able to write code (be it Java, C,
or .NET
crap), without knowing a lot about the environment their code is
going
to run in, much
Le 16.10.2013 17:56, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
You're the one who said programmers need to know a lot of details
about the hardware being used, not me. The more you need to know
about different hardware, the harder it is to write code to fit all
of
that hardware.
I did not said a lot but
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 05:29:33PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Speaking about endianness, it really is hard to manage:
void myfunction( ... )
{
#ifdef BIG_ENDIAN
move_bytes_in_a_specific_order
#else
move_bytes_in_the_other_specific_order
#endif
}
Bad way to manage
Le 16.10.2013 17:51, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
I only know few people who actually likes them :)
I liked them too, at a time, but since I can now use standard smart
pointers in C++, I tend to avoid them. I had so much troubles with
them,
so now I only use them for polymorphism and sometimes
Le 17.10.2013 18:17, Jonathan Dowland a écrit :
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 05:29:33PM +0200,
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Speaking about endianness, it really is hard to manage:
void myfunction( ... )
{
#ifdef BIG_ENDIAN
move_bytes_in_a_specific_order
#else
On 17 Oct 2013, at 17:47, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
I do not understand why?
In both cases with decent compilers it is solved at compile-time, so what
is the problem with preprocessor here? In case BIG_ENDIAN is not defined but
should be?
For the reason I wrote:
otherwise
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 16.10.2013 17:51, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
I only know few people who actually likes them :)
I liked them too, at a time, but since I can now use standard smart
pointers in C++, I tend to avoid them. I had so much troubles with
them,
so now I only use
Le 17.10.2013 21:57, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 16.10.2013 17:51, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
I only know few people who actually likes them :)
I liked them too, at a time, but since I can now use standard
smart
pointers in C++, I tend to avoid them. I had
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
So, what you name an OS is only drivers+kernel? If so, then ok. But
some people consider that it includes various other tools which does
not require hardware accesses. I spoke about graphical applications,
and you disagree. Matter of opinion, or maybe
Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org writes:
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 05:29:33PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Speaking about endianness, it really is hard to manage:
void myfunction( ... )
{
#ifdef BIG_ENDIAN
move_bytes_in_a_specific_order
#else
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 01:10:42AM CEST, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org said:
Le 15.10.2013 19:32, Chris Bannister a écrit :
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 03:43:21PM +0200,
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
I know I wont teach that to anyone here, but modems are not
computing stuff, at all.
On 10/16/2013 12:16 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Or do you just turn it on and watch your favorite show?
Kinda helps to know how to wire together all the various pieces that
go with a TV these days- cable connection
snip
Of course you can call up the local Best Buy
On 10/15/2013 11:37 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/15/2013 6:50 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/15/2013 2:26 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Geeze Jerry, you're just so wrong, on so many things.
What's a coder? In over 40 years of programming,
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
Which is also why Universities require about 3/4 of the course hours be
outside of your major.
Huh!!?? I think you may be referring to distribution requirements and
you might mean 1/4 of your course hours. It's a
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 01:46:48PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Chris Bannister wrote:
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 03:43:21PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wrote:
I know I wont teach that to anyone here, but modems are not
computing stuff, at all. They are simply here to transform numeric
Le 16.10.2013 03:25, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
Ah, but you are more than a simple user.
I guess so. I am not even a TV user anymore in fact, but that's not the
question.
The point is that I can hardly consider a programmer to be a simple
user of a computer, because when you write a program,
Le 16.10.2013 08:24, Erwan David a écrit :
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 01:10:42AM CEST,
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org said:
Le 15.10.2013 19:32, Chris Bannister a écrit :
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 03:43:21PM +0200,
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
I know I wont teach that to anyone here, but
Le 16.10.2013 13:04, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
Anybody who thinks that being able to write code (be it Java, C, or
.NET
crap), without knowing a lot about the environment their code is
going
to run in, much less general analytic and design skills, is going to
have a very short-lived career.
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Try again. States do not differentiate between civil engineers,
mechanical engineers, etc. and other engineers. Use of the term
Engineer is what is illegal. Check with your state licensing board.
The three states I've checked (Maryland, Texas and North Carolina) are
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 16.10.2013 13:04, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
Anybody who thinks that being able to write code (be it Java, C, or
.NET
crap), without knowing a lot about the environment their code is going
to run in, much less general analytic and design skills, is going to
On 10/16/2013 12:16 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Why? Do you know how a TV signal is encoded at the station? How it
is modulated onto the carrier? The operation of the RF and IF strips
in your TV? The frequencies of the local oscillator(s) being used?
How the RF signal is
On 10/16/2013 7:15 AM, Darko Gavrilovic wrote:
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
Which is also why Universities require about 3/4 of the course hours be
outside of your major.
Huh!!?? I think you may be referring to distribution requirements and
On 10/16/2013 8:19 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 16.10.2013 03:25, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
Ah, but you are more than a simple user.
I guess so. I am not even a TV user anymore in fact, but that's not the
question.
The point is that I can hardly consider a programmer to be a
On 10/16/2013 9:01 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 16.10.2013 13:04, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
Anybody who thinks that being able to write code (be it Java, C, or .NET
crap), without knowing a lot about the environment their code is going
to run in, much less general analytic and
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/16/2013 7:15 AM, Darko Gavrilovic wrote:
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Jerry Stuckle
jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
Which is also why Universities require about 3/4 of the course hours be
outside of your major.
Huh!!?? I think you may be referring to
On 10/16/2013 12:27 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/16/2013 7:15 AM, Darko Gavrilovic wrote:
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Jerry Stuckle
jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
Which is also why Universities require about 3/4 of the course hours be
outside of your major.
On Wednesday 16 October 2013 16:27:00 Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Which is also why Universities require about 3/4 of the course
hours be outside of your major.
Which is to say: Which is also why the Universities *in the USA*
require...
Lisi
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On 10/16/2013 5:38 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Wednesday 16 October 2013 16:27:00 Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Which is also why Universities require about 3/4 of the course
hours be outside of your major.
Which is to say: Which is also why the Universities *in the USA*
require...
Lisi
Yup,
On Monday 14 October 2013 13:41:51 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wrote:
I have no idea about how it works in other countries, but in
France, when the enterprise is big enough, sysadmins does not take
care of single systems. That job is left to people with less
qualifications.
I think that
On Tue, 2013-10-15 at 10:27 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
In our household, it is my husband's job to grow the vegitables and it
is my job to cook them. Neither of us gets paid for it.
While I agree with the rest of the explanation, I disagree with the
above part. It's a barter deal, it just isn't
Apropos: http://bit.ly/1cR4LnG
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Catherine Gramze wrote:
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 21:12:32 -0400
Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
Maybe where you are, but not in the world scheme of things.
A router is a specific box. A (A)DSL modem may also contain a
firewall, etc. But most (A)DSL modems, cable modems, etc., only
Le 15.10.2013 03:28, Catherine Gramze a écrit :
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 21:12:32 -0400
Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
Maybe where you are, but not in the world scheme of things.
A router is a specific box. A (A)DSL modem may also contain a
firewall, etc. But most (A)DSL modems,
On 10/15/2013 8:53 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 15.10.2013 03:28, Catherine Gramze a écrit :
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 21:12:32 -0400
Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
Maybe where you are, but not in the world scheme of things.
A router is a specific box. A (A)DSL
Le 15.10.2013 15:36, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
If you want to confuse things by getting into the OSI model, modems
are Layer 1 (Physical). Routers are Layer 3 (Network).
Thanks for precision.
I stayed away
from this because it's mainly of interest to engineers and network
programmers; the
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 23:37:25 -0400
Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
No, a cable modem does both MOdulation and DEModulation - which is
why it is called a MODEM.
On the internet, input/output on one side of the modem is digital,
through an RJ-45 to category cable.
But you can
On 10/15/2013 10:06 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 15.10.2013 15:36, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
If you want to confuse things by getting into the OSI model, modems
are Layer 1 (Physical). Routers are Layer 3 (Network).
Thanks for precision.
I stayed away
from this because it's
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Programmers nowadays do not have to manage computer's memory too, but it
seem that when they know how low level works they write more robust
programs.
Not necessarily. I've seen great programmers who don't know or worry
about the internals. And I've seen poor
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 03:43:21PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
I know I wont teach that to anyone here, but modems are not
computing stuff, at all. They are simply here to transform numeric
signals to analogical ones, and vice versa. I wonder why someone
would explicitly call
Chris Bannister wrote:
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 03:43:21PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
I know I wont teach that to anyone here, but modems are not
computing stuff, at all. They are simply here to transform numeric
signals to analogical ones, and vice versa. I wonder why someone
On 10/15/2013 1:21 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Programmers nowadays do not have to manage computer's memory too, but it
seem that when they know how low level works they write more robust
programs.
Not necessarily. I've seen great programmers who don't know or worry
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:10:09AM -0300, Marcelo Lacerda wrote:
Just to make it clear in my normal package management these are
*all* commands that I use:
# apt-get update
# apt-get upgrade
# apt-get dist-upgrade
# apt-get install foo-bar
# apt-get install -f
# apt-get remove|purge
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/15/2013 1:21 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Programmers nowadays do not have to manage computer's memory too,
but it
seem that when they know how low level works they write more robust
programs.
Not necessarily. I've seen great programmers who
On 10/15/2013 2:26 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/15/2013 1:21 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Programmers nowadays do not have to manage computer's memory too,
but it
seem that when they know how low level works they write more robust
programs.
Not
On Oct 15, 2013 at 20:52, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:10:09AM -0300, Marcelo Lacerda wrote:
Just to make it clear in my normal package management these are
*all* commands that I use:
# apt-get update
# apt-get upgrade
# apt-get
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/15/2013 2:26 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Geeze Jerry, you're just so wrong, on so many things.
What's a coder? In over 40 years of programming, I've met many
programmers, but no coders. Some were better than others - but none
had limited and low-level skill
Le 15.10.2013 19:32, Chris Bannister a écrit :
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 03:43:21PM +0200,
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
I know I wont teach that to anyone here, but modems are not
computing stuff, at all. They are simply here to transform numeric
signals to analogical ones, and vice
Le 15.10.2013 18:28, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
Why? Do you know how a TV signal is encoded at the station? How it
is modulated onto the carrier? The operation of the RF and IF strips
in your TV? The frequencies of the local oscillator(s) being used?
How the RF signal is demodulated? How the
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