On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
On 06/03/2011 07:02 AM, Camaleón wrote:
[snip]
And admittely, in such programs (like Getmail or Fetchmail) it is very
useful to have the keep option while configuring the application so you
don't delete e-mails unless
On 06/04/2011 02:52 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
On 06/03/2011 07:02 AM, Camaleón wrote:
[snip]
And admittely, in such programs (like Getmail or Fetchmail) it is very
useful to have the keep option while configuring the
On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 14:21:47 -0400, Celejar wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2011 18:27:29 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
wrote:
...
Next time you need to configure a POP3 account tell me if you leave
enable the keep a copy in the server setting. It's not the default,
it never has been in
On 06/03/2011 07:02 AM, Camaleón wrote:
[snip]
And admittely, in such programs (like Getmail or Fetchmail) it is very
useful to have the keep option while configuring the application so you
don't delete e-mails unless you are sure they're well routed locally and
messages reach their inboxes.
On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 07:26:25 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 06/03/2011 07:02 AM, Camaleón wrote:
(...)
As I said before, it's understandable that the default setting is
keep in such programs to avoid missing e-mails while testing.
Disagree. Defaults are for the *common* choices.
On Wed, 18 May 2011 18:27:29 + (UTC)
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
...
Next time you need to configure a POP3 account tell me if you leave
enable the keep a copy in the server setting. It's not the default, it
never has been in any MUA, or not in any I'm aware of. I don't think how
On 2011-05-17, Alan Chandler wrote:
POP has an option to leave messages on the server after you have read them.
I have a server set up which stores all my mails, and I use IMAP to read
them. I have a few old accounts from old ISPs which uses POP, and I
just collect mails from them with
Hi,
Howard Eisenberger wrote:
Also, mutt -f pop(s)://mail.example.com/ to read e-mail
on a POP3 server online.
That's neat.
I used the following and they both worked:
mutt -f pops://localhost
mutt -f imaps://localhost
I was able to delete, undelete and delete a message again. Ended
Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
As I said, In standards speak.
Should or must = always (at least if done right; anything else is
wrong).
May = optional; alternatives are possible and allowed.
See RFC2119 (http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2119.txt) for a complete
good pointer!
Chris Davies wrote:
See RFC2119 (http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2119.txt) for a complete
definition!
Miles Fidelmanmfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
As I said, In standards speak.
Should or must = always (at least if done right; anything else is
wrong).
On 05/21/2011 12:51 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
[snip]
for the purposes of this conversation - what do you think - is
normally a subset of may or of must? :-)
Neither.
From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 [gcide]:
Normal \Normal\ (n[^o]rmal), a. [L. normalis,
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 21:09:45 Miles Fidelman wrote:
I also note that in standards speak, normally is equivalent to
may.
In which language, pray? Certainly not in English.
Lisi
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Lisi wrote:
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 21:09:45 Miles Fidelman wrote:
I also note that in standards speak, normally is equivalent to
may.
In which language, pray? Certainly not in English.
As I said, In standards speak.
Should or must = always (at least if done right; anything
On Tue, 17 May 2011 14:31:27 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In pan.2011.05.17.15.50...@gmail.com, Camaleón wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2011 16:42:28 +0300, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2011 08:21:36 -0500
John Hasler jhas...@debian.org wrote:
There is no way to read
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:31:27AM +, Camaleón wrote:
This is mostly a technical mailing list and the above definitions do not
have to entirely fit with the ones used to define a standard protocol¹.
Meaning, in plain English yes, download is a very generic term covering
many situations.
On Wed, 18 May 2011 14:53:40 +0100, Jon Dowland wrote:
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:31:27AM +, Camaleón wrote:
This is mostly a technical mailing list and the above definitions do
not have to entirely fit with the ones used to define a standard
protocol¹. Meaning, in plain English yes,
Camaleón wrote:
That's okay, but not for me (so I noted), at least not technically
speaking in this context where pop3, due to its own nature, inherits by
default a download/fetch/get/retrieve and delete action ;-)
Nope.
The protocol is very specific - listing headers, downloading/reading
On Wed, 18 May 2011 10:32:01 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Camaleón wrote:
That's okay, but not for me (so I noted), at least not technically
speaking in this context where pop3, due to its own nature, inherits
by default a download/fetch/get/retrieve and delete action ;-)
Nope.
Camaleón wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2011 10:32:01 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
The protocol is very specific - listing headers, downloading/reading
messages, marking messages for deletion, and actually deleting messages
(when a QUIT is issued) are very distinct operations that have to be
On Wed, 18 May 2011 14:57:16 + (UTC)
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Camaleón,
Pop3 was not designed to keep the messages on the server, having such
option is not the norm but the exception (many e-mail server do not
have
Cam, if you want to be all Humpty Dumpty about it(0),
On Wed, 18 May 2011 16:50:54 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2011 14:57:16 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello Camaleón,
Pop3 was not designed to keep the messages on the server, having such
option is not the norm but the exception (many e-mail server do not
On Wed, 18 May 2011 12:28:31 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Camaleón wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2011 10:32:01 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
The protocol is very specific - listing headers, downloading/reading
messages, marking messages for deletion, and actually deleting
messages (when a QUIT
On Qua, 18 Mai 2011, Camaleón wrote:
Next time you need to configure a POP3 account tell me if you leave
enable the keep a copy in the server setting. It's not the default, it
never has been in any MUA, or not in any I'm aware of. I don't think how
is that so hard to understand.
That's a MUA
Camaleón wrote:
Next time you need to configure a POP3 account tell me if you leave
enable the keep a copy in the server setting. It's not the default, it
never has been in any MUA, or not in any I'm aware of. I don't think how
is that so hard to understand.
I think everyone understand
Hi,
We have a problem. We are building an app which uses Roundcube to read
mails. It's ok for IMAP accounts, but we need to read an account provider
who just uses POP3. We need to read it without download the mails. There
are some way to read the mails from POP3 account without download...maybe
On 05/17/2011 04:52 AM, Jesus arteche wrote:
Hi,
We have a problem. We are building an app which uses Roundcube to read
mails. It's ok for IMAP accounts, but we need to read an account
provider who just uses POP3. We need to read it without download the
mails.
But that's what IMAP is for.
Jesus arteche wrote:
We have a problem. We are building an app which uses Roundcube to
read mails. It's ok for IMAP accounts, but we need to read an account
provider who just uses POP3. We need to read it without download the
mails. There are some way to read the mails from POP3 account
On 17/05/11 10:52, Jesus arteche wrote:
Hi,
We have a problem. We are building an app which uses Roundcube to read
mails. It's ok for IMAP accounts, but we need to read an account
provider who just uses POP3. We need to read it without download the
mails. There are some way to read the mails
Jesus arteche writes:
There are some way to read the mails from POP3 account without
download...
There is no way to read anything without downloading it. If you want
the messages to remain on the server don't send DELE commands.
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On Tue, 17 May 2011 08:21:36 -0500
John Hasler jhas...@debian.org wrote:
There is no way to read anything without downloading it.
Obvious :-)
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Ron Johnson wrote:
But that's what IMAP is for. POP is specifically designed as a
temporary holding area (like a Post Office Box).
There are some way to read the mails from POP3 account without
download...maybe a gateway to IMAP...some idea?
Who goes to the Post Office, reads their
On Tue, 17 May 2011 16:42:28 +0300, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2011 08:21:36 -0500
John Hasler jhas...@debian.org wrote:
There is no way to read anything without downloading it.
Obvious :-)
Not that obvious :-P
I can read POP3 messages from my pop3 e-mail checker
On Ma, 17 mai 11, 15:50:57, Camaleón wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2011 16:42:28 +0300, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2011 08:21:36 -0500
John Hasler jhas...@debian.org wrote:
There is no way to read anything without downloading it.
Obvious :-)
Not that obvious :-P
I
Iwrote:
There is no way to read anything without downloading it.
RMAwrites:
Obvious :-)
You would think so, wouldn't you?
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In pan.2011.05.17.15.50...@gmail.com, Camaleón wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2011 16:42:28 +0300, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2011 08:21:36 -0500
John Hasler jhas...@debian.org wrote:
There is no way to read anything without downloading it.
Obvious :-)
Not that obvious :-P
I
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:42:58AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
But that's what IMAP is for. POP is specifically designed as a
temporary holding area (like a Post Office Box).
There are some way to read the mails from POP3 account without
download...maybe a
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