Re: Backup systems

2023-09-05 Thread David Christensen
On 9/5/23 07:34, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 4 Sep 2023 13:57 -0700, from dpchr...@holgerdanske.com (David Christensen): * I am using zfs-auto-snapshot(8) for snapsnots. Are you using rsnapshot(1) for snapshots? No. I'm using ZFS snapshots on the source, but not for backup purposes. (I have co

Re: Backup systems

2023-09-05 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 4 Sep 2023 13:57 -0700, from dpchr...@holgerdanske.com (David Christensen): > * I am using zfs-auto-snapsnot(8) for snapsnots. Are you using rsnapsnot(1) > for snapshots? No. I'm using ZFS snapshots on the source, but not for backup purposes. (I have contemplated doing that, but it would incre

Re: Backup systems

2023-09-04 Thread David Christensen
On 9/4/23 00:53, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 3 Sep 2023 14:20 -0700, from dpchr...@holgerdanske.com (David Christensen): Without seeing a console session, I am unsure what you mean by "physically stored", "total logical (excluding effects of compression) data", and "hot current logical data ... (

Re: Backup systems

2023-09-04 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 3 Sep 2023 14:20 -0700, from dpchr...@holgerdanske.com (David Christensen): >> 8.07 TiB physically stored on one backup drive holding 174 backups; >> 11.4 TiB total logical (excluding effects of compression) data on the >> source; 7.83 TiB hot current logical data on the source (excluding >> thi

Re: Backup systems

2023-09-03 Thread David Christensen
On 9/3/23 03:02, Michael Kjörling wrote: 8.07 TiB physically stored on one backup drive holding 174 backups; 11.4 TiB total logical (excluding effects of compression) data on the source; 7.83 TiB hot current logical data on the source (excluding things like ZFS snapshots and compression). Which

Re: Backup systems

2023-09-03 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 2 Sep 2023 14:49 -0700, from dpchr...@holgerdanske.com (David Christensen): > So, 693 GB backup size, 98 backups, 67 TB apparent total backup storage, and > 777 GB actual total backup storage. So, a savings of about 88:1. > > What statistics are other readers seeing for similar use-cases and t

Re: Backup systems

2023-09-02 Thread David Christensen
On 9/2/23 15:26, Michel Verdier wrote: On 2023-09-02, David Christensen wrote: What statistics are other readers seeing for similar use-cases and their backup solutions? I have 83 backups resulting to 130% of data. So a ratio of 63:1. Nice. But because of performance limitation I don't

Re: Backup systems

2023-09-02 Thread David Christensen
On 9/2/23 12:15, Michel Verdier wrote: On 2023-09-02, Stefan Monnier wrote: I switched to Bup a few years ago and saw a significant reduction in the size of my backups that is partly due to the deduplication *between* machines (I backup several Debian machines to the same backup repository) as

Backup systems (was: I uninstalled OpenMediaVault (because totally overkill for me) and replaced it with borgbackup and rsyncq)

2023-09-02 Thread Stefan Monnier
> More accurately, rsnapshot (which is basically a frontend to rsync) > tells rsync to do that; IIRC by passing --link-dest pointing at the > previous backup target directory. I've used a similar (tho hand-cooked) script running `rsync`. I switched to Bup a few years ago and saw a significant redu

Re: Backup systems

2001-11-16 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 12:28:17PM +, Ross Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi, > > I am looking for a cheap backup system for my machine. A recent scare > regarding my hard drive ("is it a 75GXP?") forced me to think about > backup policy. > > I'd love to own a Jaz drive but at the momen

Re: Backup systems

2001-11-15 Thread Daniel Farnsworth Teichert
This may not be exactly what you want, but then again it may. I've been looking at a program called Mondo which does most of what you're talking about (and can span CD's, if one isn't big enough, &c.). The homepage is http://www.microwerks.net/~hugo ...or something like that. I've had limited suc

Re: Backup systems

2001-11-15 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya ross a cdrw can hold about 600Mb ??? or a 20Gb disk of regular files... if your 20Gb hard disk is all mpeg files... it probably wont fit into cdrw - a bigger hard disk of compressed data files wont fit into cdrweither - a writable dvd gets you up to 2 or 4Gb of "backup" spac

Backup systems

2001-11-15 Thread Ross Burton
Hi, I am looking for a cheap backup system for my machine. A recent scare regarding my hard drive ("is it a 75GXP?") forced me to think about backup policy. I'd love to own a Jaz drive but at the moment I can't afford one. However, I do have a CD-RW in my machine. This is what I want to do in

Re: Backup systems: opinons wanted

1997-12-03 Thread Gary L. Hennigan
Udjat the BitMeister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I use bru 2000 and I am _very_ happy with it. > I also us cpio to copy my whole filesystem(/) to a different partition > (/snapshot) to have a online read-only backup of files. > You could get by with cpio but I like the tape verify and features of

Re: Backup systems: opinions wanted

1997-12-03 Thread tibor simko
> "manoj" == Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: manoj> I guess I would like to hear abot dump vs afio. i am using afio to back up the important parts of the system, with the aid of a small script similar to those at /usr/doc/afio/examples, and am quite happy with it. my backup

Re: Backup systems: opinions wanted

1997-12-03 Thread Udjat the BitMeister...
I use bru 2000 and I am _very_ happy with it. I also us cpio to copy my whole filesystem(/) to a different partition (/snapshot) to have a online read-only backup of files. You could get by with cpio but I like the tape verify and features of bru 2000. Take a look at www.estinc.com On 3 Dec 1997

Re: Backup systems: opinions wanted

1997-12-03 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : How do people backup their machines? What packages do you use? : How do the backends (dd, dump/restore tar afio/cpio) compare wrt : reliability/ease of use? [dd is just for completeness.] I would like : a full backup, so I guess tar is out as

Re: Backup systems: opinions wanted

1997-12-03 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : How do people backup their machines? What packages do you use? : How do the backends (dd, dump/restore tar afio/cpio) compare wrt : reliability/ease of use? [dd is just for completeness.] I would like : a full backup, so I guess tar is out as

Backup systems: opinions wanted

1997-12-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, How do people backup their machines? What packages do you use? How do the backends (dd, dump/restore tar afio/cpio) compare wrt reliability/ease of use? [dd is just for completeness.] I would like a full backup, so I guess tar is out as a backend (can't handle special files). I gue