Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-26 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 26/08/2019 à 20:23, rhkra...@gmail.com a écrit : On Monday, August 26, 2019 09:20:13 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: The "bytes-per-inode" value ("-i" option) is the closest match to what you described. The man page doesn't tell us what the default value is, but the Arch wiki says it's one inode per

Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-26 Thread David Wright
On Mon 26 Aug 2019 at 14:23:39 (-0400), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, August 26, 2019 09:20:13 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > The "bytes-per-inode" value ("-i" option) is the closest match to what > > you described. The man page doesn't tell us what the default value is, > > but the Arch wik

Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-26 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, August 26, 2019 09:20:13 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > The "bytes-per-inode" value ("-i" option) is the closest match to what > you described. The man page doesn't tell us what the default value is, > but the Arch wiki says it's one inode per 16384 bytes. >

Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-26 Thread Stefan Monnier
> you described. The man page doesn't tell us what the default value is, > but the Arch wiki says it's one inode per 16384 bytes. > > Since the default inode size is 256 bytes, that tells us the inodes > take about 1.5% of the space

Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 07:36:13AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > - When you only store large files (e.g. videos) on the file system, you > may end up wasting more space on the unused inodes than you'd like. > IIRC with the default setting, about 5% of the disk space is used for > inodes, so

Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-26 Thread Stefan Monnier
> How do I search for answer to my inadequately phrased question below. > 1. I assume that sector size is a _TERM_ reserved for something fixed >when the disk is manufactured. > 2. What is the proper search term to use for something whose dimensions >would be "megabytes/inode"? {I'll use "b

Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-25 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/25/2019 08:09 PM, David Wright wrote: On Sun 25 Aug 2019 at 06:20:34 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: On 08/24/2019 06:30 PM, bw wrote: In-Reply-To: <6467de81e00f9aafac5c25a0c60b1...@contacte.xyz> When it's time to partition/format the drive one can choose the ??usage?? of the partition

Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-25 Thread David Wright
On Sun 25 Aug 2019 at 06:20:34 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 08/24/2019 06:30 PM, bw wrote: > > In-Reply-To: <6467de81e00f9aafac5c25a0c60b1...@contacte.xyz> > > > When it's time to partition/format the drive one can choose the ??usage?? > > > of the partition which affect the Inodes. > > >

Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-25 Thread list
Hello All. I want to thank you all for your help, feedback, link, command line and experience you shared here after my noob question. I get better understanding now, thanks to you. Godspeed !

Re: You may need more inodes if you store lots of emails locally in maildir format (was: Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-25 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, August 25, 2019 03:25:09 PM David Wright wrote: > grep -a '^From ' DIRECTORY/* | less > > where DIRECTORY is wherever you keep your mail, will give an indication > of how many emails you have stored. Then add your INBOX. My own totals > around 70,000. My 40GB root filesystem has 2½mil

Re: You may need more inodes if you store lots of emails locally in maildir format (was: Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-25 Thread David Wright
On Sun 25 Aug 2019 at 08:10:07 (-0400), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Hmm, this raised a question in my mind (not for myself so much) -- I use mbox > (vs. maildir) as much as possible to store emails. > > (kmail (the older version I use (on Wheezy) uses maildir for the inbox and > maybe some ot

Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-25 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 25/08/2019 à 14:54, Richard Owlett a écrit : On 08/25/2019 07:36 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: 2. What is the proper search term to use for something whose dimensions     would be "megabytes/inode"? {I'll use "blob" for now } This is just a ratio without any actual object associated. It shou

Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-25 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/25/2019 07:36 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 25/08/2019 à 13:20, Richard Owlett a écrit : How do I search for answer to my inadequately phrased question below. 1. I assume that sector size is a _TERM_ reserved for something fixed     when the disk is manufactured. With modern disks, ther

Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-25 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 25/08/2019 à 13:20, Richard Owlett a écrit : How do I search for answer to my inadequately phrased question below. 1. I assume that sector size is a _TERM_ reserved for something fixed    when the disk is manufactured. With modern disks, there are two sector sizes : - the physical sector s

You may need more inodes if you store lots of emails locally in maildir format (was: Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-25 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, August 24, 2019 08:33:30 PM Rick Thomas wrote: > > On Aug 24, 2019, at 4:18 PM, l...@contacte.xyz wrote: > > > > What would be the «best» to choose for an SSD in an usual desktop > > environment ? What would be the «best» to choose for an mechanical HD in > > an usual desktop environm

Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-25 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/24/2019 06:30 PM, bw wrote: In-Reply-To: <6467de81e00f9aafac5c25a0c60b1...@contacte.xyz> Hello All. Thank you for any help, advises, explanation one's can provide. When installing a Debian - Buster here. When it's time to partition/format the drive one can choose the ??usage?? of the p

Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-25 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 25/08/2019 à 02:33, Rick Thomas a écrit : On Aug 24, 2019, at 4:18 PM, l...@contacte.xyz wrote: What would be the «best» to choose for an SSD in an usual desktop environment ? What would be the «best» to choose for an mechanical HD in an usual desktop environment ? I don’t think there’s an

Re: Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-24 Thread Rick Thomas
> On Aug 24, 2019, at 4:18 PM, l...@contacte.xyz wrote: > > What would be the «best» to choose for an SSD in an usual desktop environment > ? > What would be the «best» to choose for an mechanical HD in an usual desktop > environment ? I don’t think there’s any difference between SSD and spi

Buster Installation - Partition phase - Inode option to choose - SSD or Mechanical HD

2019-08-24 Thread list
Hello All. Thank you for any help, advises, explanation one's can provide. When installing a Debian - Buster here. When it's time to partition/format the drive one can choose the «usage» of the partition which affect the Inodes. There is : -Typical usage” (which is “standard” by default) - "