Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

2017-07-19 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 18.07.17 11:06, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > On the other hand, if you just want to _install_ Debian rather than to > run it as "live" system, then you should for now use one of the > installation ISOs. > E.g. the small one which is just enough to fetch more packages from the > internet: > > > ht

Re: Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

2017-07-18 Thread Dejan Jocic
On 18-07-17, Jason Wittlin-Cohen wrote: > That's not exactly what I'm seeing. I began seeding the Debian 9.0 > installer image on 6/17 and the Live image on 6/20, when the 9.0.1 released. > > debian-9.0.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso 171.36 GB > debian-live-9.0.1-amd64-gnome.iso 157.90 GB > debian-live-9.0.1

Re: Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

2017-07-18 Thread Jason Wittlin-Cohen
That's not exactly what I'm seeing. I began seeding the Debian 9.0 installer image on 6/17 and the Live image on 6/20, when the 9.0.1 released. debian-9.0.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso 171.36 GB debian-live-9.0.1-amd64-gnome.iso 157.90 GB debian-live-9.0.1-amd64-cinnamon.iso 107.85 GB debian-9.0.0-amd64-ne

Re: Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

2017-07-18 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Erik Christiansen wrote: > Would it be impertinent to enquire why the malfunctioning install option > is not disabled, when it only serves to tarnish the reputation of debian? I understand that the future of Debian live ISOs depends on the contribution by developers and users. See https://l

Re: Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

2017-07-18 Thread Fungi4All
> From: wool...@eeg.ccf.org > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:14:52AM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: >> www.debian.org -> "CD/USB ISO images" > That"s where your eyes go? That"s interesting. ? what are you, an optometrist? > My eyes skip the banner with its embedded "download me" link (because >

Re: Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

2017-07-18 Thread Dejan Jocic
On 18-07-17, Jason Wittlin-Cohen wrote: > Many people have had issues installing with the Live installer on this > mailing list. The question is why Debian even offers the option if there > is no interest in testing it to make it work. The initial live installer > images (9.0, before 9.0.1) were

Re: Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

2017-07-18 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 18.07.17 10:29, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:14:52AM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > www.debian.org -> "CD/USB ISO images" > > That's where your eyes go? That's interesting. Only because this time it's an install from USB, and it's under the heading "Getting Debian".

Re: Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

2017-07-18 Thread Jason Wittlin-Cohen
Many people have had issues installing with the Live installer on this mailing list. The question is why Debian even offers the option if there is no interest in testing it to make it work. The initial live installer images (9.0, before 9.0.1) were completely broken and could not even begin the i

Re: Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

2017-07-18 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 18.07.17 15:47, Darac Marjal wrote: > Did you read the two yellow boxes at the top of that page? No, it did not register as text, because it was block colour-guified, which my (other side of 60) mind registered as "commented out - do not read". The tiny fontsize visually confirmed that it must

Re: Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

2017-07-18 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:14:52AM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: On 18.07.17 08:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:55:26AM +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote: > This release of Debian came with buggy live images. It was fixed with > 9.0.1 live images, or at least it seemed so. No, the

Re: Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

2017-07-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:14:52AM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: > www.debian.org -> "CD/USB ISO images" That's where your eyes go? That's interesting. My eyes skip the banner with its embedded "download me" link (because it's a friggin' BANNER, and decades of web use have taught me to skip al

Re: Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

2017-07-18 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 18.07.17 11:06, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > On the other hand, if you just want to _install_ Debian rather than to > run it as "live" system, then you should for now use one of the > installation ISOs. > E.g. the small one which is just enough to fetch more packages from the > internet: > > > ht

Re: Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

2017-07-18 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 18.07.17 08:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:55:26AM +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote: > > This release of Debian came with buggy live images. It was fixed with > > 9.0.1 live images, or at least it seemed so. > > No, the 9.0.1 Debian live images are still broken when used for > in

Re: Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

2017-07-18 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, July 18, 2017 08:20:20 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > WHY DO PEOPLE ATTEMPT TO INSTALL DEBIAN USING A LIVE CD IMAGE > > ESPECIALLY WHEN IT HASN'T WORKED IN MANY YEARS > > G > > Why don't people use the installer to install? > > I just can't understand. Well, just in an effort to att

Re: Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

2017-07-18 Thread Fungi4All
> From: wool...@eeg.ccf.org > On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:55:26AM +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote: >> This release of Debian came with buggy live images. It was fixed with >> 9.0.1 live images, or at least it seemed so. > No, the 9.0.1 Debian live images are still broken when used for > installations. They

Re: Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

2017-07-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:55:26AM +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote: > This release of Debian came with buggy live images. It was fixed with > 9.0.1 live images, or at least it seemed so. No, the 9.0.1 Debian live images are still broken when used for installations. They fail to set a root password or to

Re: Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

2017-07-18 Thread Fungi4All
From: jode...@gmail.com: > This release of Debian came with buggy live images. It was fixed with > 9.0.1 live images, or at least it seemed so. Perhaps you discovered bug > in it that should be reported. Unfortunately, debian live images do not > get much needed love and because of that are not rea

Re: Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

2017-07-18 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Erik Christiansen wrote: > after setting > geographic location and keyboard, the debian 9 install process threw up > a "Detect and mount CD-ROM" screen, insisting on a CD with suitable > install content. It seemed quite unaware that it is installing from USB. Well, that's much deeper in the l

Re: Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

2017-07-18 Thread Dejan Jocic
On 18-07-17, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 18.07.17 08:46, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Afaik, unetbootin unpacks the ISO and replaces the boot loader software. > > Debian discourages its use with live and installation ISOs. > > > > The Debian ISOs for i386 are ready to be simply copied onto the devi

Re: Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

2017-07-18 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 18.07.17 08:46, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Afaik, unetbootin unpacks the ISO and replaces the boot loader software. > Debian discourages its use with live and installation ISOs. > > The Debian ISOs for i386 are ready to be simply copied onto the device > file of the overall USB stick (i.e. to /dev

Re: Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

2017-07-17 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > After downloading > https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde.iso > and putting it on a USB stick with unetbootin, Afaik, unetbootin unpacks the ISO and replaces the boot loader software. Debian discourages its use with live and installati

Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

2017-07-17 Thread Erik Christiansen
After downloading https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde.iso and putting it on a USB stick with unetbootin, the install spuriously stops due to an obsessive excursion to mount a (non-existent) CDROM. The link to the download page says: >> "Hybr