Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-06 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On Tue, 2018-02-06 at 09:56 +1300, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > On 06/02/18 04:52, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > I installed memtest86+ and ran it with all of the defaults.  It > > took > > over an hour, but no errors were reported. > > Please try parallel memtester and stress. These found memory

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 06/02/18 04:52, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I installed memtest86+ and ran it with all of the defaults. It took over an hour, but no errors were reported. Please try parallel memtester and stress. These found memory errors for me that were not found by memtest86+. In *eight* terminal

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 06/02/18 07:32, David Wright wrote: I'm not in the habit of upgrading BIOS/UEFI on my computers. (I do have {amd64,intel}-microcode installed.) What old or buggy code would I be running when booting a linux installation? (I accept that Grub has to run, and the kernel and initramfs be found,

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On Mon, 2018-02-05 at 19:40 +0100, Felipe Salvador wrote: > On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 11:06:21PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh > wrote: > > On Sun, 04 Feb 2018, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > > I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform. > > > Lately, it seems if I have been

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Felipe Salvador
On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 11:06:21PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sun, 04 Feb 2018, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform. > > Lately, it seems if I have been plagued by surfeit of orphaned nodes. > > That means: > > 1.

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread David Wright
On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 14:45:17 (-0200), Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Mon, 05 Feb 2018, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > I am rather hesitant about updating the BIOS/UFEI. In fact I can't > > seem to find an upgrade for the FX-8320 on the AMD web site. > > An update, if any are available,

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 2/4/18, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sun, 04 Feb 2018, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: >> I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform. >> Lately, it seems if I have been plagued by surfeit of orphaned nodes. > > That means: > > 1. "unlinked" files or

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Jochen Spieker
Stephen P. Molnar: > > I installed memtest86+ and ran it with all of the defaults. It took > over an hour, but no errors were reported. That's not long enough. From what I have read you should let it run for a day or so and even then you cannot be sure that there are no memory errors. > I am

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 05 Feb 2018, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > I installed memtest86+ and ran it with all of the defaults. It took > over an hour, but no errors were reported. Memtest86 and memtest86+ are not always that good at finding memory errors for some reason... Try a 24h/48h test over the weekend or

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On Mon, 2018-02-05 at 10:15 +1300, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > On 05/02/18 09:49, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > They seem to happen when I am > > running  four or more apps at the same time. > > I would never expect to see orphaned inodes except after a system > crash  > or kernel memory

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On Sun, 2018-02-04 at 23:06 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sun, 04 Feb 2018, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform. > > Lately, it seems if I have been plagued by surfeit of orphaned > > nodes. > > That means: > > 1.

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On Mon, 2018-02-05 at 08:03 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 03:49:36PM -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform. > > Lately, it seems if I have been plagued by surfeit of orphaned > > nodes. > > > > I have goggled

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On Sun, 2018-02-04 at 20:45 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 04 February 2018 15:49:36 Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > > I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform. > > Lately, it seems if I have been plagued by surfeit of orphaned > nodes. > > > > I have goggled the

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On Mon, 2018-02-05 at 07:37 +0100, deloptes wrote: > Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > > Can anyone give me some guidance in what I should be looking > > for?  It > > would be much appreciated. > > From my experience most probably inappropriate shutdown (no unmount > > when > > shutdown). > How do

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-04 Thread deloptes
Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > Can anyone give me some guidance in what I should be looking for?  It > would be much appreciated. >From my experience most probably inappropriate shutdown (no unmount when shutdown). How do you shutdown your machine? Can you try without systemd (just install sysvinit

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-04 Thread David Christensen
On 2/4/18 12:49 PM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: receiving warning messages from the OS, Please post the warning messages from the OS, and identify where they are coming from. Please run 'mount' and post the prompt, the command, and the relevant portions of the output. Please do the same for

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-04 Thread The Wanderer
On 2018-02-04 at 20:06, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sun, 04 Feb 2018, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > >> I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform. >> Lately, it seems if I have been plagued by surfeit of orphaned nodes. > > That means: > > 1. "unlinked" files or

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 04 February 2018 15:49:36 Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform. > Lately, it seems if I have been plagued by surfeit of orphaned nodes. > > I have goggled the causes. cures and prevention, but have gotten no > results that make any

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-04 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 04 Feb 2018, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform. > Lately, it seems if I have been plagued by surfeit of orphaned nodes. That means: 1. "unlinked" files or directories were still open when the filesystem had to be shutdown/made

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-04 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 03:49:36PM -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform. > Lately, it seems if I have been plagued by surfeit of orphaned nodes. > > I have goggled the causes. cures and prevention, but have gotten no > results that make

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-04 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 05/02/18 09:49, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: They seem to happen when I am running  four or more apps at the same time. I would never expect to see orphaned inodes except after a system crash or kernel memory corruption. How did you test your CPU and RAM? Do you see any other symptoms such as

Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-04 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform. Lately, it seems if I have been plagued by surfeit of orphaned nodes. I have goggled the causes. cures and prevention, but have gotten no results that make any sense to me. I've been using computer since the early 1960's but am an