On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 17:54 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:34:50AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:21 +0200, Andre Majorel wrote:
Don't know the answer to your question but have you considered
using those PCs as disk-less X terminals using
Le 26.10.2013 06:44, Chris Bannister a écrit :
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:15:00PM +0200,
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Any DE can, of course. No WM can, they simply handle windows. If
they can, then they are not only WM.
Plus, tiling window managers usually does not have any desktop and
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 17:54 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:34:50AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:21 +0200, Andre Majorel wrote:
Don't know the answer to your question but have you considered
using those PCs as disk-less X
Le 26.10.2013 13:46, Richard Owlett a écrit :
In the United States of America there is an ongoing debate, in and
out of court, as to just what it means in modern times. The sound
byte
title tends to be separation of church and state.
Really? I thought that USA were quite religious and that
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 06:46:53 -0500
Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
In the United States of America there is an ongoing debate, in
and out of court, as to just what it means in modern times. The
sound byte title tends to be separation of church and state.
The net result is the
Zenaan Harkness wrote:
[SNIP]
The same software likely is available for Debian too, but I
don't know if there are meta packages available too,
I've been wanting to understand meta-packages for a personal
project. Gives me one more assignment. If retirement isn't for
learning and expanding
On 2013-10-26, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wrote:
Really? I thought that USA were quite religious and that religion and
government were coupled ( people using the bible to show that they'll be
honest ). I am happy to discover that it is wrong.
Well, even
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 26.10.2013 13:46, Richard Owlett a écrit :
In the United States of America there is an ongoing debate, in and
out of court, as to just what it means in modern times. The
sound byte
title tends to be separation of church and state.
Really? I thought
Curt wrote:
On 2013-10-26, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wrote:
Really? I thought that USA were quite religious and that religion and
government were coupled ( people using the bible to show that they'll be
honest ). I am happy to discover that it is wrong.
Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 06:46:53 -0500
Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
In the United States of America there is an ongoing debate, in
and out of court, as to just what it means in modern times. The
sound byte title tends to be separation of church and state.
The
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 08:38 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 06:46:53 -0500
Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
In the United States of America there is an ongoing debate, in
and out of court, as to just what it means in modern times. The
On 10/26/2013 5:11 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 17:54 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:34:50AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:21 +0200, Andre Majorel wrote:
Don't know the answer to your question but have you considered
using those
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 15:50 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 08:38 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 06:46:53 -0500
Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
In the United States of America there is an ongoing debate, in
and
In Germany many church hospitals don't help victims of brutal rape. They
are not allowed not to help them and all the times this happened they
claimed that it was a misunderstanding, but the misunderstanding happens
again and again.
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On 2013-10-26, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concordat_en_Alsace-Moselle
Is that article available in English? My high school French of
50 years ago is only good enough for the article to tease me.
Apparently, that article is not available in
berenger wrote:
Really? I thought that USA were quite religious and that religion
and government were coupled ( people using the bible to show that
they'll be honest ). I am happy to discover that it is wrong.
It is. The religious right has been trying to force compulsory
christianity on us
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM, John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote:
Richard Owlett writes:
Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more
suitable than a custom install of Debian
No.
Yes, ease of installation.
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On 2013-10-24, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:
You should consider an os using the kde desktop, since it is quite
similar to Windows, which is what most people are accustomed to.
I think on obsolete (possibly memory/ram restricted) hardware that
might be ill-advised.
Anyway the desktop
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 08:15 +, Tom H wrote:
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM, John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote:
Richard Owlett writes:
Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more
suitable than a custom install of Debian
No.
Yes, ease of installation.
That's not a consideration for the children, surely? They aren't the
ones doing the installing…
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On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 08:54 +, Curt wrote:
On 2013-10-24, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:
You should consider an os using the kde desktop, since it is quite
similar to Windows, which is what most people are accustomed to.
I think on obsolete (possibly memory/ram restricted)
On 2013-10-24 15:53 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
Our church runs a once a week after school program for the
children of a neighboring elementary school { in U.S.
education-speak it is a title 1 - severely underprivileged
school}. We run on donated hardware. Up to now the machines
came with
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:21 +0200, Andre Majorel wrote:
Don't know the answer to your question but have you considered
using those PCs as disk-less X terminals using LTSP or similar ?
That might be easier to admin.
And you donate the needed infrastructure for that?
Keep the original post in
On 2013-10-25, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
He was thinking of the adults who look after the kids, but even adults
kde on inadequate hardware is going to be exasperating for young and old
alike.
nowadays are used to their smart phone OSes and not Win 98 or XP and
likely
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:34 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:21 +0200, Andre Majorel wrote:
Don't know the answer to your question but have you considered
using those PCs as disk-less X terminals using LTSP or similar ?
That might be easier to admin.
And you donate the
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 09:38 +, Curt wrote:
On 2013-10-25, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
He was thinking of the adults who look after the kids, but even adults
kde on inadequate hardware is going to be exasperating for young and old
alike.
That's what I already
Le 25.10.2013 01:14, Richard Owlett a écrit :
Unless I'm totally lost, I suspect any DE /or WM can handle that.
Sorry for that, but it's your own words: you are completely lost ;)
Any DE can, of course. No WM can, they simply handle windows. If they
can, then they are not only WM.
Plus,
On 2013-10-25, Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org wrote:
That's not a consideration for the children, surely? They aren't the
ones doing the installing…
What isn't a consideration?
And don't call me Shirley.
There's bottom posts and top posts and interleaved posts and orphaned
posts in
Le 25.10.2013 11:38, Curt a écrit :
On 2013-10-25, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
He was thinking of the adults who look after the kids, but even
adults
kde on inadequate hardware is going to be exasperating for young and
old
alike.
nowadays are used to their smart
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 09:38 +, Curt wrote:
On 2013-10-25, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
He was thinking of the adults who look after the kids, but even adults
kde on inadequate hardware is going to be exasperating for young and old
alike.
That's
Andre Majorel wrote:
On 2013-10-24 15:53 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
Our church runs a once a week after school program for the
children of a neighboring elementary school { in U.S.
education-speak it is a title 1 - severely underprivileged
school}. We run on donated hardware. Up to now the
Hi,
On 10/24/2013 09:53 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
Our church runs a once a week after school program for the children of
a neighboring elementary school { in U.S. education-speak it is a
title 1 - severely underprivileged school}. We run on donated
hardware. Up to now the machines came with
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:34 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:21 +0200, Andre Majorel wrote:
Don't know the answer to your question but have you considered
using those PCs as disk-less X terminals using LTSP or similar ?
That might be easier to admin.
Tom H wrote:
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM, John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote:
Richard Owlett writes:
Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more
suitable than a custom install of Debian
No.
Yes, ease of installation.
Ease of installation comes at a cost. You
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:12:33AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 08:15 +, Tom H wrote:
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM, John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote:
Richard Owlett writes:
Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more
suitable than
Luis, thank you for sharing this. Perhaps somebody can add additional
related information.
[1] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu
[2] http://www.skolelinux.org
[3] http://www.edubuntu.org/about
http://www.skolelinux.org/images/stories/in_use/oslo/oslo6-lab_jpg_medium.jpg
When I saw this photo I
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 08:15 +, Tom H wrote:
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM, John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote:
Richard Owlett writes:
Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more
suitable than a custom install of Debian
No.
Yes, ease of
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 08:15 +, Tom H wrote:
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM, John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote:
Richard Owlett writes:
Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more
On 2013-10-25, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
Reading between the lines on that make me wonder how well the
things would run on the to be donated hardware. It also says
nothing about hardware required for the server.
Here you got hardware requirements:
On 10/25/13, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 08:15 +, Tom H wrote:
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM, John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com
wrote:
Richard Owlett writes:
Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 06:14:20PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 18:47 -0400, Doug wrote:
You should consider an os using the kde desktop, since it is quite
similar to Windows, which is what most people are accustomed to.
Windows 98, XP etc., I guess
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:15:00PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 25.10.2013 01:14, Richard Owlett a écrit :
Unless I'm totally lost, I suspect any DE /or WM can handle that.
Sorry for that, but it's your own words: you are completely lost ;)
Sorry, you are!
Any DE can,
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:34:50AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 11:21 +0200, Andre Majorel wrote:
Don't know the answer to your question but have you considered
using those PCs as disk-less X terminals using LTSP or similar ?
That might be easier to admin.
And you
Our church runs a once a week after school program for the
children of a neighboring elementary school { in U.S.
education-speak it is a title 1 - severely underprivileged
school}. We run on donated hardware. Up to now the machines came
with misc versions of MS Windows. A local company will
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 03:53:02PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
Our church runs a once a week after school program for the children
of a neighboring elementary school { in U.S. education-speak it is a
title 1 - severely underprivileged school}. We run on donated
hardware. Up to now the
Richard Owlett writes:
Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more
suitable than a custom install of Debian
No.
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On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 15:53 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more
suitable than a custom install of Debian - especially as there is
a choice of kernels?
Debian can be used with older CPUs, than *buntus can.
All i486 and later
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 23:21 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 15:53 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more
suitable than a custom install of Debian - especially as there is
a choice of kernels?
Debian can be used
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 23:28 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 23:21 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 15:53 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more
suitable than a custom install of Debian - especially as
On 10/24/2013 04:53 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
Our church runs a once a week after school program for the
children of a neighboring elementary school { in U.S.
education-speak it is a title 1 - severely underprivileged
school}. We run on donated hardware. Up to now the machines came
with
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 18:47 -0400, Doug wrote:
You should consider an os using the kde desktop, since it is quite
similar to Windows, which is what most people are accustomed to.
Windows 98, XP etc., I guess new Windows is different.
Xfce is similar too and it might be better for old PCs.
At
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 18:47 -0400, Doug wrote:
You should consider an os using the kde desktop, since it is quite
similar to Windows, which is what most people are accustomed to.
Windows 98, XP etc., I guess new Windows is different.
Xfce is similar too and it might be
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 18:14 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
What will children see on screen - hopefully no more than 5/6 icons.
Good point, full ACK :).
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On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 03:53:02PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
Our church runs a once a week after school program for the children
of a neighboring elementary school { in U.S. education-speak it is a
title 1 - severely underprivileged school}. We run on donated
On 10/24/2013 06:56 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 18:47 -0400, Doug wrote:
You should consider an os using the kde desktop, since it is quite
similar to Windows, which is what most people are accustomed to.
Windows 98, XP etc., I guess new Windows is different.
Xfce is
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