Re: Code Of Conduct (was ... Re: Security?)

2013-09-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 03:15:57PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: So is it ok to post such a link? It does say that swearing is illegal on packet radio, which some people use to read the ML. So understanding that, and also that swearing is unnecesary on a support ML, I'd say you have your answer.

Re: Code Of Conduct (was ... Re: Security?)

2013-09-28 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 9/28/2013 9:06 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 03:15:57PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: So is it ok to post such a link? It does say that swearing is illegal on packet radio, which some people use to read the ML. *** In the United States ***. Ths U.S. is not the whole

Code Of Conduct (was ... Re: Security?)

2013-09-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 09:33:26PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Btw. fxg a sheep in Germany is allowed, so claiming asylum should http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct * Do not use foul language; besides, some people receive the lists via packet radio, where swearing is

Re: Code Of Conduct (was ... Re: Security?)

2013-09-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 18:56 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 09:33:26PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Btw. fxg a sheep in Germany is allowed, so claiming asylum should http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct * Do not use foul language; besides, some

Re: Code Of Conduct (was ... Re: Security?)

2013-09-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
PS: FWIW it's a quote from the link below. The used word has got a German equivalent. It's not sophisticated to use this word in Germany, but it's also not the worst kind of language of the gutter. It's common that nearly everybody does use it. It's very uncommon to use a sophisticated word

Re: Code Of Conduct (was ... Re: Security?)

2013-09-23 Thread Darko Gavrilovic
On Sep 23, 2013 5:14 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 18:56 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 09:33:26PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Btw. fxg a sheep in Germany is allowed, so claiming asylum should

Re: Code Of Conduct (was ... Re: Security?)

2013-09-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 06:33 -0400, Darko Gavrilovic wrote: No one on here cares about your rant or definition of what foul language is in the little village you happen to reside in on this planet. Just keep your posts about Debian, useful to the user community, and keep it professional. It

Re: Code Of Conduct (was ... Re: Security?)

2013-09-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 06:33 -0400, Darko Gavrilovic wrote something that offended netiquette ;), no hard feelings. Btw. as far as I can see you send 4 mails to the list and 3 mails were send to the list and to the person you replied to, no rant, just an information: Reply to the list only! And

Re: Code Of Conduct (was ... Re: Security?)

2013-09-23 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 09/23/2013 06:47 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: A quick archive search does show that I helped others on this list much more than you did. List participation is not a competitive sport. -- hangout: ##b0rked on irc.freenode.net diversion: http://alienjeff.net - visit The Fringe quote: The

Re: Code Of Conduct (was ... Re: Security?)

2013-09-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 06:33 -0400, Darko Gavrilovic wrote: [snip] My apologies, I forgot to mention that 4 from your 4 mails are sent HTML formatted and 2 from your 4 mails used top-posting. https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists Please post only in plain text. Do not submit HTML, h4x0r or

Re: Code Of Conduct (was ... Re: Security?)

2013-09-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 07:03 -0400, Jeff Bauer wrote: On 09/23/2013 06:47 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: A quick archive search does show that I helped others on this list much more than you did. List participation is not a competitive sport. That's correct, but I randomly, without evil intend

Re: Code Of Conduct (was ... Re: Security?)

2013-09-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 11:13:37AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 18:56 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 09:33:26PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Btw. fxg a sheep in Germany is allowed, so claiming asylum should

Re: Code Of Conduct (was ... Re: Security?)

2013-09-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 23:31 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: If you don't want to abide by the CoC [snip] I never claimed that. I only explained that it was a mistake, because this word isn't a hard word here. I was thinking about not to use the word, because I wasn't sure if it is considered as

Re: Code Of Conduct (was ... Re: Security?)

2013-09-23 Thread Brian
[Extensive, selective snipping of the original post has taken place. This mail will also be my one and only one on this topic]. On Mon 23 Sep 2013 at 12:47:52 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: It also would be nice to be professional . . . . . On Sunday 8th Sept 2013 at 11:27:36 -0700

Security? (was ... Re: Code Of Conduct (was ... Re: Security?))

2013-09-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 13:43 +0100, Brian wrote: [Extensive, selective snipping of the original post has taken place. This mail will also be my one and only one on this topic]. On Mon 23 Sep 2013 at 12:47:52 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: It also would be nice to be professional . . . . .

Re: Code Of Conduct (was ... Re: Security?)

2013-09-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 01:45:37PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 23:31 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: I still miss an answer, if it's allowed to post such links, that contain words as the unwanted word I quoted from the link. I suggest to censor them ... i.e. bas%#@d,

Re: Code Of Conduct (was ... Re: Security?)

2013-09-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
My question about the link is www.family.friendly.web.page.link.name.nowhere with a discussion about security that contains swearing. It's clear that if such a link would contain a porn video, I'm not allowed to post it, but it's about the topic and not all words are family friendly. So is it

Re: Code Of Conduct (was ... Re: Security?)

2013-09-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 15:15 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I don't think the videos are censored, resp. taken away by a collecting society. If the collecting societies ban a video, than there is information about it and this is the only censorship done in Germany. Nazi content etc. isn't allowed,

Re: Code Of Conduct (was ... Re: Security?)

2013-09-23 Thread Darko Gavrilovic
Well, now you got me going. The year is 2012 and contrary to your recent discovery of an alternative to a windows platform -- for some of the rest of us -- it has been almost 35 years since Kerrigan published his how to program in C book and the last thing we are quite bored of revisiting the

Code Of Conduct (was ... Re: Security?)

2013-09-23 Thread David Guntner
Ralf Mardorf grabbed a keyboard and wrote: IMO the Security? thread became interesting by links to Lavabit and Schneier. Yea. You and a couple of other people found it interesting and kept the topic dragging on. It doesn't change the fact that it was OFF TOPIC for THIS PARTICULAR MAILING

Re: Code Of Conduct (was ... Re: Security?)

2013-09-23 Thread David Guntner
Ralf Mardorf grabbed a keyboard and wrote: Assumed I would post a link, is it ok to post a link with similar content? Perhaps interesting for the one who posted the link too. I'm not kidding. The link was useful for the topic and I quoted from The topic has been *off* topic for this

Re: Code Of Conduct (was ... Re: Security?)

2013-09-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 07:27 -0700, David Guntner wrote: Posting a link is one thing, quoting from it is another. That's clear, the question is at what point the link becomes an issue. No doubt about it, a link to racist content on this list is offending the CoC, a link to a discussion about a

Re: Code Of Conduct (was ... Re: Security?)

2013-09-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 23 September 2013 15:39:05 David Guntner wrote: Yea.  You and a couple of other people found it interesting and kept the topic dragging on.  It doesn't change the fact that it was OFF TOPIC for THIS PARTICULAR MAILING LIST. Why doesn't everyone just ignore him? Or if you can't do