Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-11 Thread songbird
Marco Möller wrote: > On 10.03.21 19:28, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > (...) >> I don't think there is a Debian DVD iso I can use to install Debian >> Bullseye. >> I think I'll have to install Buster and then switch to Bullseye. >> Is there a better option? > > To my knowledge, there is a Bulleye i

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
> > TDE is the only DE I use on my Debians. Light it is, but with a feature set that > floats my boat very well. > I had only 2GB RAM on this old Core2Duo until recently: > > # free # on fresh boot to multi-user.target > totalusedf

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Felix Miata
Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z composed on 2021-03-10 07:26 (UTC-0400): > How is that TDE? Is it like KDE but much lighter? > What are the main differences? TDE is the only DE I use on my Debians. L

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 10 mar 21, 16:55:39, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > > Sorry, I wasn't clear: first Buster then Bullseye. That way I will stay on > Bullseye > when it becomes "stable". I think it will happen soon, won't it? It's a few months away, which in Debian's timeline is indeed soon ;) Kind regards, A

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
> Be aware that although testing has less churn than unstable, that also means that when a bug does creep through, it may take a week or two to see the next release of the software, whereas unstable might see the fix come in later that same day. > > It's a trade-off. Sorry, I wasn't clear: first B

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Kent West
On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 1:42 PM Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > > Thanks. I think I would rather prefer non-free software as a second > option. > > Since I'm new to this, I would prefer to go the safe way: first Debian > 10, then testing. > > Be aware that although testing has less churn than unsta

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
> To my knowledge, there is a Bulleye installer available here: > https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ > It is still a test version, but you have good chances that it will work > just fine. As described before, "testing" in Debian does not mean > "unstable". With some bad luck for you, yo

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Marco Möller
On 10.03.21 19:28, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: (...) I don't think there is a Debian DVD iso I can use to install Debian Bullseye. I think I'll have to install Buster and then switch to Bullseye. Is there a better option? To my knowledge, there is a Bulleye installer available here: https://www

Re: Plasma can be a lightweight (was: Hardware requirements between Debian 9 and 10; and was also: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?)

2021-03-10 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
On 10/03/2021 07:23, "Felix Miata" wrote: > > Felix Miata composed on 2021-03-10 05:33 (UTC-0500): > > > Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z composed on 2021-03-09 19:00 (UTC-0400): > > >> I have been reading throughout the Web > >> that Xfce4 is not so lightweight as it was before. > >> Apparently, its performan

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
> I recommend to use "testing" (currently Bullseye) on an individual Laptop/Desktop Computer, and leave "stable" for server or cooperate end user installations. Usually "testing" is very stable concerning reliability for the every day interactive work and during the frequent upgrades (which you sho

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
> If you have the drive-space for it, install it, along with something lighter like Cinnamon or LXQt. > > Then all it takes to switch between the alternatives is to log out, find the settings icon on your login manager, select your alternative, and log back in. > > If KDE proves to be too sluggish,

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
> Debian bullseye (soon to be Debian 11) is already in the "freeze" stage. > > It should be quite reliable in daily usage though you are still going to > see (small) updates to many packages. > > Official security support is not started yet, but security relevant > updates should be prioritised whe

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Marco Möller
On 10.03.21 13:51, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: (...) My last doubt is if should use Debian 10 with KDE Plasma or Debian Bullseye instead. I recommend to use "testing" (currently Bullseye) on an individual Laptop/Desktop Computer, and leave "stable" for server or cooperate end user installation

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Kent West
On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 9:34 PM Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > Hello. > > I would like to install Debian 10 with the KDE Plasma task > on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 @ 2.33 GHz, > it doesn't have a GPU. > Do you think it would run without problems > or would it be slow and laggy

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 10 mar 21, 08:51:33, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > > My last doubt is if should use Debian 10 with KDE Plasma or Debian Bullseye > instead. > Apparently, only the newer versions of KDE Plasma have the performance > boost. Debian bullseye (soon to be Debian 11) is already in the "freeze" sta

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
El 10/03/2021 07:53, "Marco Möller" escribió: > > > On 10.03.21 04:34, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: >> >> Hello. >> >> I would like to install Debian 10 with the KDE Plasma task >> on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 @ 2.33 GHz, >> it doesn't have a GPU. >> Do you think it would run

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
> Commandante Alpha- > Full disclosure, I have always preferred KDE over gnome and alternatives. It's just more complete and tight. But there are some older systems I can't really use it on. I don't NEED a massive window manager and apps, I was a fan of twm for years. I dont mind xfce either, it's

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 5:23 AM Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > > I would not do that. I run xfce under Debian 10.4 in 8GB, it's very > light weight for a window manager. MUCH lighter than KDE. But still a > little slow sometimes, with more than a few apps open SubCommandante > Geovanis > > 😂 > >

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Marco Möller
On 10.03.21 04:34, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: Hello. I would like to install Debian 10 with the KDE Plasma task on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 @ 2.33 GHz, it doesn't have a GPU. Do you think it would run without problems or would it be slow and laggy? Thanks in advance fo

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 10 March 2021 06:26:22 Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > > Yes, I think it will not work - better try lighter desktops or the > > older > > KDE > > > that is called now Trinity Desktop > > How is that TDE? Is it like KDE but much lighter? > What are the main differences? > > Sorry, I'm ne

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
> Yeah it will work, although it'll work a lot better if you can get an extra 4Gb off Ebay, I paid about £25. By it will work you mean: your computer will boot; or: it will be usable? He he, thanks for your help.

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
> Try Enlightenment. > It's very configurable once get familiar with all the options. > Cheers! I saw it was there, but it looks a little difficult to get it working according to what I read about it. Also, I don't know if loading Gtk+, Qt and EFL at the same time at RAM would be a good idea. Bu

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread James Allsopp
Also, you could spend a bit on money on an SSD, I did. On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 at 11:31, James Allsopp wrote: > Yeah it will work, although it'll work a lot better if you can get an > extra 4Gb off Ebay, I paid about £25. > > For reference I was running it on a 3Ghz 4GbRam Core2Duo. > > On Wed, 10

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread James Allsopp
Yeah it will work, although it'll work a lot better if you can get an extra 4Gb off Ebay, I paid about £25. For reference I was running it on a 3Ghz 4GbRam Core2Duo. On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 at 11:23, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > > I would not do that. I run xfce under Debian 10.4 in 8GB, it's very

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
> Yes, I think it will not work - better try lighter desktops or the older KDE > that is called now Trinity Desktop How is that TDE? Is it like KDE but much lighter? What are the main differences? Sorry, I'm new to GNU/Linux OSes.

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-10 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
> I would not do that. I run xfce under Debian 10.4 in 8GB, it's very light weight for a window manager. MUCH lighter than KDE. But still a little slow sometimes, with more than a few apps open SubCommandante Geovanis > 😂 Oh, it looks it would be very slowly then. It is weird is doesn't looks

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-09 Thread Weaver
On 10-03-2021 17:05, deloptes wrote: > Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > >> I would like to install Debian 10 with the KDE Plasma task >> on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 @ 2.33 GHz, >> it doesn't have a GPU. >> Do you think it would run without problems >> or would it be slow and la

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-09 Thread deloptes
Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > I would like to install Debian 10 with the KDE Plasma task > on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 @ 2.33 GHz, > it doesn't have a GPU. > Do you think it would run without problems > or would it be slow and laggy? Yes, I think it will not work - better t

Re: Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-09 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 9:34 PM Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote: > Hello. > > I would like to install Debian 10 with the KDE Plasma task > on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 @ 2.33 GHz, > it doesn't have a GPU. > Do you think it would run without problems > or would it be slow and laggy?

Could KDE work adequately on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor @ 2.33 GHz?

2021-03-09 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
Hello. I would like to install Debian 10 with the KDE Plasma task on a PC with 4 GB of RAM and Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 @ 2.33 GHz, it doesn't have a GPU. Do you think it would run without problems or would it be slow and laggy? Thanks in advance for your answers.