Re: Dear Debian Maintainers (usability)

2004-06-09 Thread steef van duin
Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, David Moreno Garza wrote: On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 15:30, W Paul Mills wrote: As in every other aspect of life, there is no such thing as a free lunch. Humm... He is a new debian user, and you want him to start fixing things immediately. He

Re: Dear Debian Maintainers (usability)

2004-06-09 Thread J. Preiss
us something to which we are entitled. While I wouldn't have added the wah wah wah! part, I, too, found the post to which Jaldhar Vyas replied to be a bit selfish in tone; and I know that if I was putting tons of time into developing Debian and then read something like that, I'd be pretty

Re: Dear Debian Maintainers (usability)

2004-06-09 Thread Matthias Czapla
On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 11:42:25AM +0200, J. Preiss wrote: I could start a new one, but I dont like to make the same work twice. And the feeling to say: hello, I am new, and I write for you all a nice config tool, it will be great... this is... (could someone translate unglaubwuerdig,

Re: Dear Debian Maintainers (usability)

2004-06-09 Thread J. Preiss
not plausible (apt-get install translate) tststs... :-) Great tool! But not useful until I cope with umlauts :-( (Dont reply,its another thread). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Dear Debian Maintainers (usability)

2004-06-09 Thread Helmut Wollmersdorfer
J. Preiss schrieb: [...] (could someone translate unglaubwuerdig, please). You can use one of the best web resources for EN - DE http://dict.leo.org/ Direct Matches unbelievable adj. unglaubwürdig Phrases and Collocations not authentic unglaubwürdig

Re: Dear Debian Maintainers (usability)

2004-06-09 Thread Micha Feigin
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 04:19:32PM +0200, J. Preiss wrote: dpgk-reconfigure is only required if you want to reconfigure a package. Packages remember the initial configurations so you need to configure them on upgrade only if a configuration option changed. The problem is that everything

Re: Dear Debian Maintainers (usability)

2004-06-09 Thread J. Preiss
For example either of the following aptitude search console apt-cache search console config produces among other things: console-common - Basic infrastructure for text console configuration Nice hint, thanks. But network config shows too many entries... anyway, edit the interfaces

Re: Dear Debian Maintainers (usability)

2004-06-08 Thread J. Preiss
dpgk-reconfigure is only required if you want to reconfigure a package. Packages remember the initial configurations so you need to configure them on upgrade only if a configuration option changed. The problem is that everything is within a package, but the relations are not always clear

Re: Dear Debian Maintainers (usability)

2004-06-08 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, J. Preiss wrote: I hope the new installer will care about these problems. I dont want to change back to suse. I dont want to pay just because of new kernel / new kde / new version of wah wah wah! debian is a community, a give-and-take not a product. If you don't

Re: Dear Debian Maintainers (usability)

2004-06-08 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, David Moreno Garza wrote: On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 15:30, W Paul Mills wrote: As in every other aspect of life, there is no such thing as a free lunch. Humm... He is a new debian user, and you want him to start fixing things immediately. He may never stick around that

Dear Debian Maintainers (usability)

2004-06-07 Thread J. Preiss
It is great what you are doing. But the usability of debian itself... I get the feeling that I'm too stupid to use it. I do understand the installation stuff with apt-get, ok. If the package configures itself, it may works. But when I have to use dpk-reconfigure, I always wonder what the

Dear Debian Maintainers (usability)

2004-06-07 Thread J. Preiss
It is great what you are doing. But the usability of debian itself... I get the feeling that I'm too stupid to use it. I do understand the installation stuff with apt-get, ok. If the package configures itself, it may works. But when I have to use dpk-reconfigure, I always wonder what the

Re: Dear Debian Maintainers (usability)

2004-06-07 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello J. Preiss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: dpkg-reconfigure locales. I can select [EMAIL PROTECTED], I can select this as default. Additionally I have selected all DE-sets and all RU-sets. At the end I have locales generated...l and my keyboard layout is english :-( dpkg-reconfigure

Re: Dear Debian Maintainers (usability)

2004-06-07 Thread J. Preiss
Thank you for these guidelines. I just wanted to mention how difficult it is to have all these commands in mind. At least for a beginner. Am Montag, 7. Juni 2004 17:17 schrieb Andreas Janssen: Hello J. Preiss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: dpkg-reconfigure locales. I can select [EMAIL

Re: Dear Debian Maintainers (usability)

2004-06-07 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 04:47:56PM +0200, J. Preiss wrote: It is great what you are doing. But the usability of debian itself... I get the feeling that I'm too stupid to use it. I do understand the installation stuff with apt-get, ok. If the package configures itself, it may works. But when