Re: Debian list = spam and virus repeater/multiplexer

2004-01-29 Thread Dan Lawrence
On 28 Jan 2004, Bojan Baros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in linux.debian.user: Why isn't there a limitation that will only allow the mails to be forwarded to the list if the originating email is subscribed to the list? (snip) I read the list on usenet. I find it is easier for me to follow the

Re: Debian list = spam and virus repeater/multiplexer

2004-01-29 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: Actually, the most daunting thing about this list is the sheer volume of mail involved. Do you even grasp the irony of this statement? If volume is a problem then you'd think reducing the volume by cutting out the cruft of non-list spam and bogus mailings of false virus

Re: Debian list = spam and virus repeater/multiplexer

2004-01-29 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Dan Lawrence wrote: On 28 Jan 2004, Bojan Baros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in linux.debian.user: snip If (wo)manpwer is the issue, I'd be happy to help with the admin process. List admin, please feel free to email me directly to discuss this. -Dan I would also be happy to volunteer with the

Re: Debian list = spam and virus repeater/multiplexer

2004-01-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 12:59:06PM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Does this mean that the volunteer list maintainer who has limited time to maintain the list is a Debian Developer, Yes. I am under the impression that recently there is NO maintenance of this list, judging by the amount of

Re: Debian list = spam and virus repeater/multiplexer

2004-01-29 Thread John Foster
I have an idea! Why don't we figure out a way to bounce all the virus crap to the spammers. That would kill two bad birds with one big stone:-) -- John Foster Advance-Computing Systems We build amazing servers! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: Debian list = spam and virus repeater/multiplexer

2004-01-29 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 10:13:18PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: Long story short: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not the only way this forum is read: Other mailing lists mirror this one, as well as several usenet newsgroup. Closing the list would severely limit debian-user's usefulness

Re: Debian list = spam and virus repeater/multiplexer

2004-01-29 Thread Lucas Albers
Pigeon said: There was a lot of gas generated about the swen worm when that hit. That harvested email addresses off the web. Again, clueless Windows users without effective virus protection - only a wider base of them, ie. not just ones subscribed to this list. My solution is - for the

Re: Debian list = spam and virus repeater/multiplexer

2004-01-29 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 03:09:57PM -0700, Lucas Albers wrote: Would be nice to have your address munged from this list, or the option. You do have the option. Add to /etc/exim/exim.conf: ## # REWRITE

Re: Debian list = spam and virus repeater/multiplexer

2004-01-29 Thread Steve Lamb
Pigeon wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]${if match {$header_to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] frFs ...or other similar methods, depending on what email software you're using. Hmmm, never thought of that for people who insist on sending CCs to messages on lists which

Re: Debian list = spam and virus repeater/multiplexer

2004-01-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 12:49:55AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: Actually, the most daunting thing about this list is the sheer volume of mail involved. Do you even grasp the irony of this statement? If volume is a problem

Re: Debian list = spam and virus repeater/multiplexer

2004-01-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 01:35:41PM -0600, John Foster wrote: I have an idea! Why don't we figure out a way to bounce all the virus crap to the spammers. That would kill two bad birds with one big stone:-) Hehehe, feed the homeless to the hungry, I

Re: Debian list = spam and virus repeater/multiplexer

2004-01-29 Thread Lucas Albers
Pigeon said: On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 03:09:57PM -0700, Lucas Albers wrote: Would be nice to have your address munged from this list, or the option. You do have the option. Add to /etc/exim/exim.conf: All the spam comes from other machine. I reject 99% of it anyway, I just see it on my

Debian list = spam and virus repeater/multiplexer

2004-01-28 Thread Bojan Baros
Hello deb users. I got a little issue with receiving some of the mails through this list... The entire list have been subjected to the inflow of spam, viruses, auto-responders finding virus or spam, clueless users or someone who just wants to mess around with the list. Why isn't there a

Re: Debian list = spam and virus repeater/multiplexer

2004-01-28 Thread Sebastiaan
Hi, On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Bojan Baros wrote: Hello deb users. I got a little issue with receiving some of the mails through this list... The entire list have been subjected to the inflow of spam, viruses, auto-responders finding virus or spam, clueless users or someone who just wants to

Re: Debian list = spam and virus repeater/multiplexer

2004-01-28 Thread David Clymer
On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 10:31, Sebastiaan wrote: Hi, On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Bojan Baros wrote: Hello deb users. I got a little issue with receiving some of the mails through this list... The entire list have been subjected to the inflow of spam, viruses, auto-responders finding

Re: Debian list = spam and virus repeater/multiplexer

2004-01-28 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Sebastiaan wrote: Hi, On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Bojan Baros wrote: Hello deb users. snip The entire list have been subjected to the inflow of spam, viruses, auto-responders finding virus or spam, clueless users or someone who just wants to mess around with the list. snip I think there is a nice

Re: Debian list = spam and virus repeater/multiplexer

2004-01-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Sebastiaan wrote: I think there is a nice practical reason for this. The list operator doesn't have time to delete every spam user from this list. The operator is also someone who is maintaining the list in his free time. Does this mean that the volunteer list maintainer

Re: Debian list = spam and virus repeater/multiplexer

2004-01-28 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Hugo Vanwoerkom: Does this mean that the volunteer list maintainer who has limited time to maintain the list is a Debian Developer, or can there be other volunteers to do this who DO have more time? I am under the impression that recently there is NO maintenance of this list,

Re: Debian list = spam and virus repeater/multiplexer

2004-01-28 Thread Bojan Baros
On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 10:31, Sebastiaan wrote: Hi, On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Bojan Baros wrote: Hello deb users. I got a little issue with receiving some of the mails through this list... The entire list have been subjected to the inflow of spam, viruses, auto-responders finding

Re: Debian list = spam and virus repeater/multiplexer

2004-01-28 Thread Steve Lamb
s. keeling wrote: Which brings up another thing; all the talk about scanning the list for viruses, only allowing those subscribed to post, etc., yada yada. If they weren't using Windows to read mail, they wouldn't have a problem, would they? Why are so many considering reworking the list just to

Re: Debian list = spam and virus repeater/multiplexer

2004-01-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Bojan Baros wrote: David did bring a good point as well, about opportunity to ask question without being exposed to the volume of the list, and using gmane or some other way of reading the posts, instead of receiving them in the email box. That about settles it for me, unless someone has

Re: Debian list = spam and virus repeater/multiplexer

2004-01-28 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 10:02:05AM -0500, Bojan Baros wrote: Obviously, there might be some good reasons for this behavior that I am not aware off (besides it helps me build up my Bayes database and test my av), so please enlighten me. Please STFW

Re: Debian list = spam and virus repeater/multiplexer

2004-01-28 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 05:14:58PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: That isn't the reason. Perusing the archives will yield the real answer. Because a newbie Debian user *may* read the archvies and *may* decided to click on the link there to

Re: Debian list = spam and virus repeater/multiplexer

2004-01-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: Long story short: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not the only way this forum is read: Other mailing lists mirror this one, as well as several usenet newsgroup. Closing the list would severely limit debian-user's usefulness due to a suddenly and artificially restricted membership. As