Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-02-02 Thread deloptes
Joe wrote: > Yes, but you can get a proper 15" laptop for that sort of money, with > strange but not exotic hardware 1. we were talking about a phone 2. For 230€ a notebook? I am not sure ... regards

Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-02-02 Thread David Baron
On יום חמישי, 2 בפברואר 2017 8:33:56 IST Carl Fink wrote: > On Thu, Feb 02, 2017 at 01:09:39PM +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > > Deloptes, thanks for your indications about Sailfish project and Jolla > > phones, they are very interesting, but what I was looking for is the > > possibility of running

Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-02-02 Thread David Baron
On יום חמישי, 2 בפברואר 2017 13:09:39 IST Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Rodolfo Medina writes: > > Rodolfo Medina writes: > >> I'm interested in the problem of running Debian on an Android device > > > > [...] > > Thanks to all who kindly replied,

Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-02-02 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Feb 02, 2017 at 01:09:39PM +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Rodolfo Medina writes: > > > Rodolfo Medina writes: > > > >> I'm interested in the problem of running Debian on an Android device

Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-02-02 Thread Carl Fink
On Thu, Feb 02, 2017 at 01:09:39PM +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Deloptes, thanks for your indications about Sailfish project and Jolla phones, > they are very interesting, but what I was looking for is the possibility of > running Debian on those devices, not other OSs. So Ubuntu pre-installed

Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-02-02 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Rodolfo Medina writes: > Rodolfo Medina writes: > >> I'm interested in the problem of running Debian on an Android device > > [...] Thanks to all who kindly replied, it did help. Now I can see everything a bit more clearly. I'll try to

Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-02-02 Thread Michael Lange
On Thu, 2 Feb 2017 08:53:39 + Joe wrote: > I wouldn't know where to start trying to get another OS running on this > kind of thing, so we must hope some smart people with lots of time are > looking into it. > > Here is some progress, but there is a long way to go: > >

Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-02-02 Thread Joe
On Wed, 01 Feb 2017 22:34:49 +0100 deloptes wrote: > deloptes wrote: > > > Rodolfo Medina wrote: > > > >> In fact I was not disappointed for your words, only curious about > >> their sense, in a technical way. > > > > The problem is within the OEM not giving specs away

Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-02-02 Thread Joe
On Wed, 01 Feb 2017 21:22:12 + Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Joe writes: > > > > > There are plenty of cheap tablets around now, even some running > > Windows, which without doubt would run Debian. > > Please which ones? (Do you mean the so

Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-02-01 Thread deloptes
deloptes wrote: > Rodolfo Medina wrote: > >> In fact I was not disappointed for your words, only curious about their >> sense, in a technical way. > > The problem is within the OEM not giving specs away so there are no > drivers for the hardware. > What helps if you can boot and nothing else

Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-02-01 Thread deloptes
Joe wrote: > There are plenty of cheap tablets around now, even some running > Windows, which without doubt would run Debian. How do you make this conclusion? Debian can run on arm processor, but the devices are a problem. We are in the 1980ies in the smart phones now. I guess the big players

Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-02-01 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Joe writes: > > There are plenty of cheap tablets around now, even some running > Windows, which without doubt would run Debian. Please which ones? (Do you mean the so called WinPads?) Thanks, Rodolfo

Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-02-01 Thread Joe
On Wed, 01 Feb 2017 20:52:17 + Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Joe writes: > > > It is certainly a worthwhile goal. I would consider using a > > smartphone if I could put a sane OS on one, I have no interest in > > them at the moment. > > > >

Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-02-01 Thread deloptes
Rodolfo Medina wrote: > In fact I was not disappointed for your words, only curious about their > sense, in a technical way. The problem is within the OEM not giving specs away so there are no drivers for the hardware. What helps if you can boot and nothing else works. Booting itself is tricky

Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-02-01 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Joe writes: > On Wed, 01 Feb 2017 20:58:13 +0100 > deloptes wrote: > >> to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> >> > Perhaps he thinks he has some claims on your time. From his >> > perspective you are wasting time he has acquired some rights to. Or >> > something

Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-02-01 Thread Rodolfo Medina
deloptes writes: > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >> Perhaps he thinks he has some claims on your time. From his perspective >> you are wasting time he has acquired some rights to. Or something ;-P >> >> Yes, deloptes: I know (or I assume strongly) this ain't so -- thus my >>

Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-02-01 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 08:58:13PM +0100, deloptes wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > Ah, you are right to put this proposition forward, but I have also the right > to put mine :) Of course. I was somewhat tongue-in-cheek, remember. > It is

Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-02-01 Thread deloptes
Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Apart from that, the technical aspects of that `waste of time' could be > maybe of some interests to be discussed or reported here. Have a look at Jolla and Sailfish - these are the formal Nokia guys that build N9. This is based on Mer project a split of MeeGo/Maemo. IMO

Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-02-01 Thread Joe
On Wed, 01 Feb 2017 20:58:13 +0100 deloptes wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > Perhaps he thinks he has some claims on your time. From his > > perspective you are wasting time he has acquired some rights to. Or > > something ;-P > > > > Yes, deloptes: I know (or I

Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-02-01 Thread Rodolfo Medina
writes: > On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 02:47:57PM +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: >> deloptes writes: >> >> > Rodolfo Medina wrote: >> > >> >> Hi all. >> >> >> >> I'm interested in the problem of running Debian on an Android device and >> >> I visited: >> >> >>

Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-02-01 Thread deloptes
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Perhaps he thinks he has some claims on your time. From his perspective > you are wasting time he has acquired some rights to. Or something ;-P > > Yes, deloptes: I know (or I assume strongly) this ain't so -- thus my > tongue-in-cheek. I still couldn't resist: whenever

Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-02-01 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 02:47:57PM +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > deloptes writes: > > > Rodolfo Medina wrote: > > > >> Hi all. > >> > >> I'm interested in the problem of running Debian on an Android device and I > >> visited: >

Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-02-01 Thread Rodolfo Medina
deloptes writes: > Rodolfo Medina wrote: > >> Hi all. >> >> I'm interested in the problem of running Debian on an Android device and I >> visited: >> >> https://wiki.debian.org/Mobile >> >> . I'm trying to follow the tutorial: >> >>

Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-01-31 Thread deloptes
Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > PS As an afterthought, sometimes inquiries that seem woefully outdated > or suchly... are about countries that have inherited things like our > absolute bottom basement, bottom dollar throwaways... and they're > trying to make them work because that's all they have

Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-01-31 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 1/31/17, deloptes wrote: > Rodolfo Medina wrote: >> I'm interested in the problem of running Debian on an Android device and >> I >> visited: >> >> https://wiki.debian.org/Mobile >> >> . I'm trying to follow the tutorial: >> >> http://whiteboard.ping.se/Android/Debian >>

Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-01-31 Thread deloptes
Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Hi all. > > I'm interested in the problem of running Debian on an Android device and I > visited: > > https://wiki.debian.org/Mobile > > . I'm trying to follow the tutorial: > > http://whiteboard.ping.se/Android/Debian > > , but it seems to be quite hard. I'm

Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-01-31 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Rodolfo Medina writes: > I'm interested in the problem of running Debian on an Android device and I > visited: > > https://wiki.debian.org/Mobile > > . I'm trying to follow the tutorial: > > http://whiteboard.ping.se/Android/Debian > > , but it seems to be quite

Debian natively on Android device

2017-01-31 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Hi all. I'm interested in the problem of running Debian on an Android device and I visited: https://wiki.debian.org/Mobile . I'm trying to follow the tutorial: http://whiteboard.ping.se/Android/Debian , but it seems to be quite hard. I'm stuck where the tutorial says: # mkbootimg --base