Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-27 Thread Mauro Condarelli
Il 26/11/2015 02:07, Felix Miata ha scritto: Ric Moore composed on 2015-11-25 19:31 (UTC-0500): as the only other way to achieve what you want is xrandr. I tried to use/configure it once and got a headache for my trouble. If Mauro wants to try xrandr as a workaround until the root problem

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 November 2015 21:12:03 Mauro Condarelli wrote: > Il 25/11/2015 21:28, Lisi Reisz ha scritto: > > On Wednesday 25 November 2015 20:14:04 Mauro Condarelli wrote: > >> Pretty Please, > >> tell me this isn't true: > >> The only sensible answer I got from debian list boils down to: "use

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-25 Thread Mauro Condarelli
Il 25/11/2015 23:07, Catalin Soare ha scritto: On Nov 25, 2015 11:54 PM, "Mauro Condarelli" > wrote: > > > Il 25/11/2015 22:23, Catalin Soare ha scritto: >> >> Hello there, >> >> Maybe it is as you said earlier, an option in the kernel. Namely, the

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-25 Thread Mauro Condarelli
Il 25/11/2015 22:35, Ric Moore ha scritto: On 11/25/2015 03:14 PM, Mauro Condarelli wrote: Pretty Please, tell me this isn't true: The only sensible answer I got from debian list boils down to: "use proprietary driver". This is truly sad, especially since I *know* Linux Mint (which is a

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-25 Thread Mauro Condarelli
Il 25/11/2015 22:35, Ric Moore ha scritto: On 11/25/2015 03:14 PM, Mauro Condarelli wrote: Pretty Please, tell me this isn't true: The only sensible answer I got from debian list boils down to: "use proprietary driver". This is truly sad, especially since I *know* Linux Mint (which is a

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-25 Thread Mauro Condarelli
Il 25/11/2015 23:56, Lisi Reisz ha scritto: On Wednesday 25 November 2015 21:12:03 Mauro Condarelli wrote: Il 25/11/2015 21:28, Lisi Reisz ha scritto: On Wednesday 25 November 2015 20:14:04 Mauro Condarelli wrote: Pretty Please, tell me this isn't true: The only sensible answer I got from

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-25 Thread Ric Moore
On 11/25/2015 05:36 PM, Mauro Condarelli wrote: Il 25/11/2015 22:35, Ric Moore ha scritto: The HUGE reason I recommend the nvidia driver is that you will get much better performance IF you want to play openGL games and less tearing as you move windows from monitor to monitor. Yeah, I am a

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-25 Thread Felix Miata
Ric Moore composed on 2015-11-25 19:31 (UTC-0500): > as the only other way to > achieve what you want is xrandr. I tried to use/configure it once and > got a headache for my trouble. If Mauro wants to try xrandr as a workaround until the root problem can be found, and isn't familiar with

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 November 2015 20:14:04 Mauro Condarelli wrote: > Pretty Please, > tell me this isn't true: > The only sensible answer I got from debian list boils down to: "use > proprietary driver". > > This is truly sad, especially since I *know* Linux Mint (which is a debian > derivative,

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-25 Thread Catalin Soare
On Nov 25, 2015 11:12 PM, "Mauro Condarelli" wrote: > > > > Il 25/11/2015 21:28, Lisi Reisz ha scritto: >> >> On Wednesday 25 November 2015 20:14:04 Mauro Condarelli wrote: >>> >>> Pretty Please, >>> tell me this isn't true: >>> The only sensible answer I got from debian list

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-25 Thread Ric Moore
On 11/25/2015 03:14 PM, Mauro Condarelli wrote: Pretty Please, tell me this isn't true: The only sensible answer I got from debian list boils down to: "use proprietary driver". This is truly sad, especially since I *know* Linux Mint (which is a debian derivative, through ubuntu parentage) does

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-25 Thread Catalin Soare
On Nov 25, 2015 11:54 PM, "Mauro Condarelli" wrote: > > > Il 25/11/2015 22:23, Catalin Soare ha scritto: >> >> Hello there, >> >> Maybe it is as you said earlier, an option in the kernel. Namely, the no multicard support you mentioned earlier, is it possible that was comming

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-25 Thread Mauro Condarelli
Pretty Please, tell me this isn't true: The only sensible answer I got from debian list boils down to: "use proprietary driver". This is truly sad, especially since I *know* Linux Mint (which is a debian derivative, through ubuntu parentage) does indeed work out-of-the-box with *no*

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-25 Thread Mauro Condarelli
Il 25/11/2015 21:28, Lisi Reisz ha scritto: On Wednesday 25 November 2015 20:14:04 Mauro Condarelli wrote: Pretty Please, tell me this isn't true: The only sensible answer I got from debian list boils down to: "use proprietary driver". This is truly sad, especially since I *know* Linux Mint

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-25 Thread Mauro Condarelli
Il 25/11/2015 22:23, Catalin Soare ha scritto: Hello there, Maybe it is as you said earlier, an option in the kernel. Namely, the no multicard support you mentioned earlier, is it possible that was comming from the kernel itself or was it noveau? Thanks Catalin. Context of said error is:

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-25 Thread John L. Ries
It looks like an X issue rather than a kernel issue, but I could easily be mistaken. You might want to check the system logs (/var/log/messages or journalctl depending on whether you're using SysVInit or SystemD) for kernel error messages. I had a problem last week on my OpenSUSE box: X

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-23 Thread Mauro Condarelli
That is indeed the case; thanks. log of the "failing" debian installation is now at: http://paste.debian.net/335212/ The only "strange" thing I see is: "[ 7.709] (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support" Is it relevant? If so what does it mean (and how do I fix

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 08:32:43AM +0100, Dominique Dumont wrote: > On Monday 23 November 2015 05:19:43 Mauro Condarelli wrote: > > In my case there was NO log to /var/log/xorg.0.log. > > Since xorg-server (2:1.17.3-1), Xorg log may end up in ~/.local/share/xorg/ > > Hope this helps I've only

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-23 Thread Ric Moore
On 11/22/2015 10:44 AM, Mauro Condarelli wrote: Thanks Ric, care to share details on how You managed such a marvel? How did You disable the internal (intel) "video card" (actually inside the CPU chip)? From BIOS? What other configuration did You do? I just disabled the video feature in the

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-23 Thread Dominique Dumont
On Monday 23 November 2015 22:15:29 Chris Bannister wrote: > > Since xorg-server (2:1.17.3-1), Xorg log may end up in > > ~/.local/share/xorg/ > > > > I've only got xserver-xorg installed. xorg-server is the name of the source package. xserver-xorg binary packages are built from that source

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-23 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> Useful hints are most often found in Xorg.0.log, which for some people at >> least, is better seen in a "pastebin"[1] than an email attachment. > Please stop suggesting that! Logs inline or as an attachment are fine. Agreed. `pastebin' sucks rocks because when you search the internet for an

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-22 Thread Mauro Condarelli
http://paste.debian.net/334935/ Is the lspci/lsmod of working (4 monitors) Linux Mint. http://paste.debian.net/335124/ Is the dmesg/lspci/lsmod of the non-ok debian (2 monitors on Nvidia, intel monitors dead and second NVidia monitor misbehaving (no background redraw)) In both cases no

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-22 Thread Dominique Dumont
On Monday 23 November 2015 05:19:43 Mauro Condarelli wrote: > In my case there was NO log to /var/log/xorg.0.log. Since xorg-server (2:1.17.3-1), Xorg log may end up in ~/.local/share/xorg/ Hope this helps -- https://github.com/dod38fr/ -o- http://search.cpan.org/~ddumont/

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 08:09:01AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > Mauro Condarelli composed on 2015-11-22 13:24 (UTC+0100): > > > I have been able to make them *both* work (using custom xorg.conf), but not > > *at the same time* (under debian) > > > The working setup (linixmint) does not appear to

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-22 Thread Felix Miata
Chris Bannister composed on 2015-11-23 12:19 (UTC+1300): >> Useful hints are most often found in Xorg.0.log, which for some people at >> least, is better seen in a "pastebin"[1] than an email attachment. > Please stop suggesting that! Sorry, won't do that. It's only a suggestion, nothing like

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 22 November 2015 18:49:17 Felix Miata wrote: > Charlie Kravetz composed on 2015-11-22 16:31 (UTC-0700): > > As a new user of this mailing list, is it wrong to use pastebin? Did > > I miss a requirement to insure logs are always included in my emails > > instead? > > Xorg.0.log contains

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-22 Thread Charlie Kravetz
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 12:19:20 +1300 Chris Bannister wrote: >On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 08:09:01AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: >> Mauro Condarelli composed on 2015-11-22 13:24 (UTC+0100): >> >> > I have been able to make them *both* work (using custom xorg.conf), but >>

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-22 Thread Felix Miata
Charlie Kravetz composed on 2015-11-22 16:31 (UTC-0700): > As a new user of this mailing list, is it wrong to use pastebin? Did I > miss a requirement to insure logs are always included in my emails > instead? Xorg.0.log contains bits that can be considerd personal in nature. Having them them

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 22 November 2015 18:37:47 Felix Miata wrote: > Chris Bannister composed on 2015-11-23 12:19 (UTC+1300): > >> Useful hints are most often found in Xorg.0.log, which for some > >> people at least, is better seen in a "pastebin"[1] than an email > >> attachment. > > > > Please stop

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-22 Thread Felix Miata
Gene Heskett composed on 2015-11-22 19:29 (UTC-0500): > Felix Miata wrote: >> Xorg.0.log contains bits that can be considerd personal in nature. > How so? I don't recall ever seeing a passwd, or a list of my meds > included in it. > Please explain just what it is in the way of personal info

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-22 Thread Mauro Condarelli
Whoa! No need to make so much fuss about the way I sent logs: I sent them directly attaching them in Thunderbird and via paste.debian.net. In my case there was NO log to /var/log/xorg.0.log. Can someone suggest how can I understand what's wrong with debian install? ... or is the implicit answer

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-22 Thread Felix Miata
Mauro Condarelli composed on 2015-11-23 05:19 (UTC+0100): > No need to make so much fuss about the way I sent logs: I sent them directly > attaching them in Thunderbird and via paste.debian.net. I never found any link in any of your emails to paste.debian.net > In my case there was NO log to

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-22 Thread Mauro Condarelli
Hi, comments below. Il 22/11/2015 14:09, Felix Miata ha scritto: Mauro Condarelli composed on 2015-11-22 13:24 (UTC+0100): I have been able to make them *both* work (using custom xorg.conf), but not *at the same time* (under debian) The working setup (linixmint) does not appear to use any

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-22 Thread Mauro Condarelli
Thanks Ric, care to share details on how You managed such a marvel? How did You disable the internal (intel) "video card" (actually inside the CPU chip)? From BIOS? What other configuration did You do? TiA Mauro Il 22/11/2015 16:24, Ric Moore ha scritto: On 11/22/2015 07:03 AM, Richard Owlett

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-22 Thread Ric Moore
On 11/22/2015 07:03 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 11/22/2015 5:46 AM, Mauro Condarelli wrote: I have a setup with two video cards (intel HD Graphics 4600 + NVidia GeForce GTX 770) and four monitors (two for each card). I can see all monitors under Windows, but I can see (active, of course) only

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-22 Thread Mauro Condarelli
I have been able to make them *both* work (using custom xorg.conf), but not *at the same time* (under debian) The working setup (linixmint) does not appear to use any proprietary driver (i.e.: it uses nouveau for NVidia). I attach here full lspci and lsmod output (of *working* setup; i.e. LM)

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-22 Thread Felix Miata
Mauro Condarelli composed on 2015-11-22 13:24 (UTC+0100): > I have been able to make them *both* work (using custom xorg.conf), but not > *at the same time* (under debian) > The working setup (linixmint) does not appear to use any proprietary driver > (i.e.: it uses nouveau for NVidia). > I

Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-22 Thread Mauro Condarelli
I have a setup with two video cards (intel HD Graphics 4600 + NVidia GeForce GTX 770) and four monitors (two for each card). I can see all monitors under Windows, but I can see (active, of course) only two under debian (on the same card). I tried several configurations to no avail and finally I

Re: Debian seems unable to drive my (4) monitors

2015-11-22 Thread Richard Owlett
On 11/22/2015 5:46 AM, Mauro Condarelli wrote: I have a setup with two video cards (intel HD Graphics 4600 + NVidia GeForce GTX 770) and four monitors (two for each card). I can see all monitors under Windows, but I can see (active, of course) only two under debian (on the same card). I tried