Re: Debian stock kernel config -- CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32?

2010-10-23 Thread owens
> > > > Original Message >From: s...@hardwarefreak.com >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Subject: Re: Debian stock kernel config -- CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32? >Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 12:13:06 -0500 > >>ow...@netptc.net put forth on 10/22/2010 8:15 PM: >>

Re: Debian stock kernel config -- CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32?

2010-10-23 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Ron Johnson put forth on 10/22/2010 8:48 PM: > Bah, humbug. > > Instead of a quad-core at lower GHz, I just got my wife a dual-core at > higher speed. Not to mention the fact that for desktop use 2 higher clocked cores will yield faster application performance (think of the single threaded Flash

Re: Debian stock kernel config -- CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32?

2010-10-23 Thread Stan Hoeppner
ow...@netptc.net put forth on 10/22/2010 8:15 PM: > Actually Amdahl's Law IS a law of diminishing returns but is intended > to be applied to hardware, not software. The usual application is to > compute the degree to which adding another processor increases the > processing power of the system >

Re: Debian stock kernel config -- CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32?

2010-10-22 Thread Ron Johnson
On 10/22/2010 07:08 PM, Andrew Reid wrote: On Friday 22 October 2010 03:22:02 Sven Joachim wrote: On 2010-10-22 03:15 +0200, Andrew Reid wrote: I recently deployed some new many-core servers at work, with 48 cores each (4x 12 core AMD 6174s), and ran into an issue where the stock Debian kern

Re: Debian stock kernel config -- CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32?

2010-10-22 Thread owens
> > > > Original Message >From: rei...@bellatlantic.net >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Subject: Re: Debian stock kernel config -- CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32? >Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 20:05:49 -0400 > >>On Friday 22 October 2010 11:34:19 ow...@netptc.net wrote: &

Re: Debian stock kernel config -- CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32?

2010-10-22 Thread Andrew Reid
On Friday 22 October 2010 03:22:02 Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2010-10-22 03:15 +0200, Andrew Reid wrote: > > I recently deployed some new many-core servers at work, with > > 48 cores each (4x 12 core AMD 6174s), and ran into an issue where > > the stock Debian kernel is compiled with CONFIG_NR_CPUS

Re: Debian stock kernel config -- CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32?

2010-10-22 Thread Stan Hoeppner
ow...@netptc.net put forth on 10/22/2010 5:18 PM: > Ron et al > See the following: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl's_law > Larry Amdahl's law doesn't apply to capacity systems, only capability systems. Capacity systems are limited almost exclusively by memory, IPC/coherence, and I/O bandwi

Re: Debian stock kernel config -- CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32?

2010-10-22 Thread Andrew Reid
On Friday 22 October 2010 11:34:19 ow...@netptc.net wrote: > In fact IIRC the additional overhead follows the square of the number > of CPUs. I seem to recall this was called Amdahl's Law after Gene > Amdahl of IBM (and later his own company) Either that's not it, or there's more than one "Amd

Re: Debian stock kernel config -- CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32?

2010-10-22 Thread owens
> > > > Original Message >From: ron.l.john...@cox.net >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Subject: Re: Debian stock kernel config -- CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32? >Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 12:44:39 -0500 > >>On 10/22/2010 10:34 AM, ow...@netptc.net wrote: >>>&

Re: Debian stock kernel config -- CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32?

2010-10-22 Thread Ron Johnson
On 10/22/2010 10:34 AM, ow...@netptc.net wrote: Original Message From: ron.l.john...@cox.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Debian stock kernel config -- CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32? Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 02:00:45 -0500 Correct. The amount of effort needed for cross-CPU

Re: Debian stock kernel config -- CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32?

2010-10-22 Thread owens
> > > > Original Message >From: ron.l.john...@cox.net >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Subject: Re: Debian stock kernel config -- CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32? >Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 02:00:45 -0500 > >>On 10/22/2010 12:53 AM, Arthur Machlas wrote: >>> On

Re: Debian stock kernel config -- CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32?

2010-10-22 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Ron Johnson put forth on 10/22/2010 2:00 AM: > On 10/22/2010 12:53 AM, Arthur Machlas wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Andrew Reid >> wrote: >>> But I'm curious if anyone on the list knows the rationale for >>> distributing kernels with this set to 32. Is that just a >>> reasonable nu

Re: Debian stock kernel config -- CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32?

2010-10-22 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-10-22 03:15 +0200, Andrew Reid wrote: > I recently deployed some new many-core servers at work, with > 48 cores each (4x 12 core AMD 6174s), and ran into an issue where > the stock Debian kernel is compiled with CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32, > meaning it will only use the first 32 cores that it see

Re: Debian stock kernel config -- CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32?

2010-10-22 Thread Ron Johnson
On 10/22/2010 12:53 AM, Arthur Machlas wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Andrew Reid wrote: But I'm curious if anyone on the list knows the rationale for distributing kernels with this set to 32. Is that just a reasonable number that's never been updated? Or is there some complication

Re: Debian stock kernel config -- CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32?

2010-10-21 Thread Arthur Machlas
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Andrew Reid wrote: >  But I'm curious if anyone on the list knows the rationale for > distributing kernels with this set to 32.  Is that just a > reasonable number that's never been updated?  Or is there some > complication that arises after 32 cores, and should I

Debian stock kernel config -- CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32?

2010-10-21 Thread Andrew Reid
Hi all -- I recently deployed some new many-core servers at work, with 48 cores each (4x 12 core AMD 6174s), and ran into an issue where the stock Debian kernel is compiled with CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32, meaning it will only use the first 32 cores that it sees. For old Debian hands like me, thi